@@rafaelw8115 Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said that you said Africans on the continent we’re better then the diaspora. I said to you why don’t the young Africans on the continent build Africa instead of the diaspora.
We are of African descent, but we are not Africans in the sense that we weren't born on the continent, we don't speak any African languages, we don't belong to any specific African ethnic groups because our ancestors came from various groups. We live in a nation outside of Africa and we have our own culture that's a blend of our African elements, European and to some degree native. There's nothing wrong with that. We are not less than or damaged goods. We forget that there are people in Africa that are so mentally colonized they reject much of their traditional cultures.
As on the continent, different ethnic groups came together to form new ethnic groups, African Jamaicans are another African ethnicity. The Jamaican language is an African Caribbean language. You don't have to be born on the continent when what makes you African is your genotype, phenotype, how you move, speak, dance, live, love. Africa was born in you.
@@cultureducation Your definitions don't apply across the board though. Phenotypes range within many families from very light to very dark. I'm not an African. I'm of African descent. It's part of us for sure, but we have a different culture. It has a lot of African influence, but there's also a lot of differences. This is who we are and we don't need to feel any type of way because of it. I'm Jamaican, first off. I hail my African ancestry, but I know I'm not exactly the same nor do I try to be. I don't have to. I have a culture and I love it.
@@TRUTHTEACHER2007 do you believe there's a continental wide culture that all Africans share that would exclude the Africans who were stolen? Tell me what that is.
I am an African American and I went to Montego Bay, and stayed in a Black owned bed and breakfast. The Jamaican Brothers and sisters that I met were really nice, I also loved that they enjoyed life. Everyday there was a music party, big speakers in the middle of the grass and every one dancing and having fun, and the food!!!!! reminded me of our soul food!!! Callaloo, brown stew chicken, Kingfish, jerk chicken,ackee and Plantain!!!! Oh my God!!! The thing I see about all of us, continental and diasporan Africans, is that we know how to have fun!!!!!
This is the best thing all Black travelers should do, support our own establishments and not the racist resorts run by whites and others that exclude Black/African Jamaicans on the island! Medase (thank you) my brother or sister!
Im a black American from charleston, SC and we are geechee/gullah people. As gullah/geechee ppl its important for us to hold on to our African roots. Now because of social media and UA-cam i look at a lot of African content and all i see is us in them. We are definitely the same people. I think it's important for us to reconnect to Mama Africa ❤
@@Hlaluminathi-u9p Who is most of you?...Can you be a bit more specific...Who looks down on who...? I hate this generalisation that some of us make about each other, because I am sure you have relatives who look down on you as well 😂😂😂.
As an African I somewhat get it though. Jamaicans may have African ancestry but they are not African, they are Jamaican so of course they are going to identify with Jamaica over Africa because that’s what’s they know and it’s where they came from but having said that, *some* of them want nothing to do with being African out of underlying self hatred. Some Jamaicans would get *really* offended if you called them African. I remember in the 90s in school *some* Jamaicans would diss Africans (and vice versa) yet some of them had more African features than me 🤦🏿♂️ Them same types would embrace having European & Indian DNA over having African DNA. So there is a subconscious ignorant mindset towards Africans derived from slavery & brainwashing
I don't know how they collect data but I don't know of people who believe they are not in Jamaica unless they are uneducated and perhaps sometimes have a very poor mentality. That woman is just schisms.
@@horatiobarnes8608@horatiobarnes8608 Why are you being so separatist and disrespectful of other ethnic groups who are legitimately born and bred Jamaicans? Do you have any idea how diverse our history is? So many groups suffered alongside the blacks on the plantations. Many were there on the plantation before the Africans came, and each group of these ancestors should be respected for surviving that horrible history that we probably would not have survived. I'm not taking anything from being African or being of African descent, but the Ugandan male host needs to do more reading. He has a lot of facts wrong. As a Jamaican, I believe our forefathers were wise in saying OUT of MANY ONE PEOPLE - in our motto. They wanted their future generations to live together in ONE LOVE AND PEACE. I intend to visit Africa and China and learn more about my ancestors. I love and respect them both because I am who I am because of them. Are you telling me I have no right to exist? Look up the Japanese and how they have adopted our dance culture and lifted it up in their country. Should we go there and tell them not to enjoy our culture and buy our music? Spread love, not hate !
As a Jamaican, I feel comfortable in saying that Jamaican know that they are genetically African but enthusiastically/ culturally they are not; there are times when black in the diaspora are reminded by African from the continent’s of this.
You can say that about any colonized African anywhere in the African world, including continental Africans from metropoles that are enthusiastically into Western culture and that's what they practice, not African Culture.
@@beatrice123ful African culture is the commonalities you find across African cultures of the thousands of Black/African ethnic groups found throughout the African world. Dr. Cheikh Anta Diop, the Senegalese scientist and Africana scholar, wrote about it many years ago in his highly regarded book, The Cultural Unity of Black Africa. It is those commonalities that make an overarching African culture.
No Jamaicans aren't considered African, Africa is not a one fit's all Ethnicity. There where many indigenous black people in Jamaica, Hawaii, etc. long before Columbus arrived and while in the Americas they mixed with other Native Indian populations that's why some Indian tribes had lighter skin while some had darker skin depending on the tribes they came from. The EUROPEANS where more on the side of the lighter skinned Native Indians who they called Native Americans. Not all Native Indian tribes where given the title Native Americans since the name America didn't even exist back then. The ones called Native Americans where the ones who joined forces with white rebels to kidnap other Native tribes and run away slaves to sell them into slavery and they where rewarded for it, some even had slaves themselves because they where considered white due to their lighter skin and even mixed more with white populations to the point that no white person could tell who was Native American and who wasn't. Jamaicans on the other hand are a add mixture of black Native Indians , the Moroonian Crypto Hebrew slaves from Portugal and when they arrived in Jamaica they where already mixed with a very slight Portuguese DNA , then some where taken from places such as Nigeria but very few.... the much older history books teaches that very few slaves where taken to the West Indies because many of those places where already inhabited by who they called the N word so they said it would be no reason to bring more. Also some Jamaicans are mixed with East Indian DNA when the Europeans started bringing over East Indians, many of them mixed into the rest of the Jamaican population and then many Japanese came in.... it's very rare but some Jamaicans that looks 100% black is very shocked to find that they have some Japanese DNA in them as well.
The majority of Jamaicans are of African decent however, there are other races of persons born in Jamaica. If we all say we are weer we descended from, then is therefore no Jamaican Identity/culture.
The Jamaica 🇯🇲 that i born in always see themselves as African in a extremely proud way to this day, Jamaicans love Africa so much that Jamaica 🇯🇲 was the first country in the world to boycott South Africa and speak out extremely loud about President Bota government and the wicked treatment to black South Africans, Nelson Mandela could not wait to visit Jamaica 🇯🇲 after his release from prison Jamaica 🇯🇲 was one of his first country to visit and thank the Jamaican people for their loud voice on what was happening to black South Africans, Jamaica has always been the eyes outside of Africa with great concern about what is happening in Africa, yes we love being Jamaicans but our eyes are always on the mother land Africa ,Jamaica 🇯🇲 is and always been the little piece of Africa outside of Africa ,with a voice for Africa bigger than any other country outside of Africa.
Now you are just reachiing for content, Im a jamaican here on the island and we consider ourselves as africans. Im even planning to go there and spend some time
Someone who's actually got confidence. Good you aren't a insecure self hater that can't admit his own kind. Self hater's are more pethedic than the people hating on someone because they're a different race than them. Black's that hate their own kind show that they've been defeated by us White's which shows weakness. I have no respect for the weak. I don't know why it's so hard for people to be strong. There's way too many weak people with zero confidence in themselves. I respect you for loving yourself. There's too many self haters in the black community. I hope you continue to love yourself and give anyone that tries to convince you you're less than them the middle finger. I'm on the autism spectrum and I get neurotypicals that act like I'm inferior to them but I don't let it make me feel inferior because like most aspies I'm naturally intelligent. Neurotypicals got better social skills than us aspies but neurotypicals often lack logic. I don't see Asperger's as a disability because neurotypicals and people on the autism spectrum are both gifted in their own ways.
There is some truth to what she is saying…… but maybe 30 years ago. More and more Jamaicans are owning their Africaness and even moving to the continent. I am a African Jamaican
You we're lord to and brain washed JAMAICANS BLACK ANCESTORS WERE FROM ANCIENT ISREAL, JAMAICANS ANCESTORS ARE THE ISREALITES OF THE BIBLE DRIVEN OUT OF ISREAL BY THE ROMANS AND CAPTURED AND BROUGHT TO WEST AFRICA AND SOLD BY AFRICANS TO THE WHITE MAN IN JAMAICA
I am a Jamaican born in Kingston, currently married to an African man from the Gambia. Too many of us love Bob Marley, and other artist who sang roots and culture, music and many of loved those vibes around the world and, there’s so many of us in the Caribbean that learned about Africa through them. So that lets you know there is more of us who Love Africa and consider themselves Africans than those who don’t think that way. Do you see how many Jamaican Rastafarians are in Ethiopia or trying to get there. Before you create a podcast to cover a topic like this, please go to Jamaican and do your research first.
I’m from Jamaica and I’m in shock that these hosts would sit there and comment on a topic that is not only far from the truth, but they’re engaging in discussions they know nothing about and would actually sit there like what they’re saying applies to Jamaican’s who identify as Africans and love Africans, more than any other Caribbean nation. Every year I spend six months in Africa and my husband is from West Africa. For many of us in Jamaica and in the Caribbean from the time we’re born we are told we must go back to Africa. We love Africans, we are Caribbean Africans and if people don’t know that it’s because they practice classicism, or they are completely ignorant. Please stop Promoting foolishness in the African community and then sit there like you’re above us and You have to educate us because we are just stupid people who don’t know who we are, or where we come from. Please don’t make a show that insults our intelligence again, and sacrifice Jamaican‘s doing it. The nerves of these bougie Africans.
@@AfricanMaverickthat's why I always go with those who believe there Africans those who don't believe they are Africans it's fine let's go with those who want to be on the train
I was born in Jamaica and now living in Canada. I'm an African first. all those countries we ended up in were nothing but POW camps. Some are prettier that others but they are still POW camps.
There is little truth to the headline; many black Jamaicans, do consider themselves to be African. There are some who hold on to the colonized, brainwashed mode of thought, but overall, most are proud to be associated with Africa.
The majority don’t see themselves as Jamaican I literally come from and live in Jamaica and most of them will say they’re of African decent but not African and even get offend often times if called that
@@squilliamfancyson3333non sense , 98 percent jamaicans are proud to be called Jamaicans instead of Africans so don't talk nonsense ,many jamaicans are offended if you call them Africa because Africa poor with flies in them mouth
As an African I somewhat get it though. Jamaicans may have African ancestry but they are not African, they are Jamaican so of course they are going to identify with Jamaica over Africa because that’s what’s they know and it’s where they came from but having said that *some* of them want nothing to do with being African out of underlying self hatred. Some Jamaicans would get *really* offended if you called them African. I remember in the 90s in school *some* Jamaicans would diss Africans (and vice versa) yet some of them had more African features than me 🤦🏿♂️ Them same types would embrace having European & Indian DNA over having African DNA. So there is a subconscious ignorant mindset towards Africans derived from slavery & brainwashing
When you where at school, you where a child did you always say or do the right thing..my my do you truly think children are gonna chose some that doesn't look appealing...as stated by the great peter tosh every blackman is an African full stop whether they kno or not...a lion born in the city will always be a lion nothing else...
No Jamaicans aren't considered African, Africa is not a one fit's all Ethnicity. There where many indigenous black people in Jamaica, Hawaii, etc. long before Columbus arrived and while in the Americas they mixed with other Native Indian populations that's why some Indian tribes had lighter skin while some had darker skin depending on the tribes they came from. The EUROPEANS where more on the side of the lighter skinned Native Indians who they called Native Americans. Not all Native Indian tribes where given the title Native Americans since the name America didn't even exist back then. The ones called Native Americans where the ones who joined forces with white rebels to kidnap other Native tribes and run away slaves to sell them into slavery and they where rewarded for it, some even had slaves themselves because they where considered white due to their lighter skin and even mixed more with white populations to the point that no white person could tell who was Native American and who wasn't. Jamaicans on the other hand are a add mixture of black Native Indians , the Moroonian Crypto Hebrew slaves from Portugal and when they arrived in Jamaica they where already mixed with a very slight Portuguese DNA , then some where taken from places such as Nigeria but very few.... the much older history books teaches that very few slaves where taken to the West Indies because many of those places where already inhabited by who they called the N word so they said it would be no reason to bring more. Also some Jamaicans are mixed with East Indian DNA when the Europeans started bringing over East Indians, many of them mixed into the rest of the Jamaican population and then many Japanese came in.... it's very rare but some Jamaicans that looks 100% black is very shocked to find that they have some Japanese DNA in them as well.
I am Haitian. Often people ask me where in Africa are you from? I tell them I'm Haitian. They look at me like what the heck is the difference. I was married to a Nigerian, he used to say to me: girl, you are African. I correct people not because i don't want to claim Africa. Looking at me you can tell I am african descent but you can't tell I am Haitian. I am well aware of my african culture heritage. I am also proud of my nationality. As screwed up as it may appear, I am not going to deny it and claim another. Although, slavery was a long time ago for us, Haitians still hold a lot of african values, customs, ideology. But, we would never claim to be africans. By the way, didn't Africa deny Haiti entry in AU?
Haitian is not a race or ethnicity . Haitian is a nationality . African is a race of Black people like Black Ethiopian or Black Somali or Black Jamaican or Black Nigerian or Black Brazilian . Different from White Haitian .
True. AU denied Haiti entry into the organization. I feel you on that! Hopefully, some day the will revisit the idea and expand the AU by incorporating such as Haiti to make the organization pan-African. I'm African from the Continent!
There are white people who claim Africa, such as the Dutch Boers, so I don't understand Africans on the continent who don't want to be Africans. They are confused and yes Disconnected. Being "Disconnected " is a form of ignorance and Brainwashing! We need to Connect and Shout it Out!!❤
What Happened to Being African and proud? Qaddafi said he was African. Former President Anwar Sadat of Egypt was Nubian. A Nubian is an African. They are all Africans. Be proud of Africa❤❤❤❤❤❤
No Jamaicans aren't considered African, Africa is not a one fit's all Ethnicity. There where many indigenous black people in Jamaica, Hawaii, etc. long before Columbus arrived and while in the Americas they mixed with other Native Indian populations that's why some Indian tribes had lighter skin while some had darker skin depending on the tribes they came from. The EUROPEANS where more on the side of the lighter skinned Native Indians who they called Native Americans. Not all Native Indian tribes where given the title Native Americans since the name America didn't even exist back then. The ones called Native Americans where the ones who joined forces with white rebels to kidnap other Native tribes and run away slaves to sell them into slavery and they where rewarded for it, some even had slaves themselves because they where considered white due to their lighter skin and even mixed more with white populations to the point that no white person could tell who was Native American and who wasn't. Jamaicans on the other hand are a add mixture of black Native Indians , the Moroonian Crypto Hebrew slaves from Portugal and when they arrived in Jamaica they where already mixed with a very slight Portuguese DNA , then some where taken from places such as Nigeria but very few.... the much older history books teaches that very few slaves where taken to the West Indies because many of those places where already inhabited by who they called the N word so they said it would be no reason to bring more. Also some Jamaicans are mixed with East Indian DNA when the Europeans started bringing over East Indians, many of them mixed into the rest of the Jamaican population and then many Japanese came in.... it's very rare but some Jamaicans that looks 100% black is very shocked to find that they have some Japanese DNA in them as well.
This is simply an educational question and context. When ppl say African they think it’s like saying Brazilian. Brazil 🇧🇷 is a nation Africa is a continent of racial origins. The first thing they will say is I’m from Jamaica not Africa. My racial origins are African my nationality is a citizen of the United States of America 🇺🇸 my ethnicity is Amhara and Igbo and got brown skin
I immensely share in the yearning for a unified single African Country and I testify to this channel it's going to happen and in "our lifetime." Those "Africans" who currently disassociate themselves from the cause are hereby noted but respected and there'll be referenda in each Country followed by an international treaty before we legally become one. We will force no one to be part of it & a unified Africa must come from one's heart i.e. it must be desired & voted for. It'll be like a marriage with a certicate & treaty. For those who vote to stay out initially, the door must never be closed for them and they must be allowed to join at a future date. We need to learn to live with difference because with a current population of 1.4B + the Carribean & Diaspora and still counting, it's least likely we'll ever desire the same thing at the same time but the love for one another given what we have & continue to suffer will always take precedence over our perceived differences. Thank you for the topic. ❤
I'm half Jamican half Grenadian we have formed our own culture and a lot of us are mixed up. I amin predominantly of African decen my Grandmother is Indian and Scottish but was born in the caribbean.
@rafaelw8115 maybe also do some research see where & if some traditions you are used to resemble somethings you see in the many different african cultures of today & the past
@@rafaelw8115 You Americans still hang onto your racist, eurocentric definitions of race. If Youre mixed race, stop denying your FULL HERITAGE, slavery is over. One drop rule means black genes are stain on ones blood, hence one drop corrupts other bloodlines and the child assumes the inferio%r parents racial stock. This is what you and other mixed race and mono racial belive. If you only have 1 african ancestor or are only part african, you cant be JUST African. You're mixed. Stop destroying true africaness
Some Caribbean countries haven't lost all their culture or adopted it to stay with them, and they do have some level consciousness that they are africans.
This video sounds crazy. As a Jamaican myself i only know 1 lost Jamaican who is reaching to identify with Irish ancestry and denounces Africa. Listen to the music, we always talk about mama Africa and know we originate from West Africa, namely Ghana and Nigeria
You we're lord to and brain washed JAMAICANS BLACK ANCESTORS WERE FROM ANCIENT ISREAL, JAMAICANS ANCESTORS ARE THE ISREALITES OF THE BIBLE DRIVEN OUT OF ISREAL BY THE ROMANS AND CAPTURED AND BROUGHT TO WEST AFRICA AND SOLD BY AFRICANS TO THE WHITE MAN IN JAMAICA
I think the reason a lot of us don't feel connected to the continent is because the continent does not connect to us. If the continent reached out and really had an impact on our lives in the present in a meaningful way, I think we'd be more inclined to identify with the continent.
@@rafaelw8115 Garvey brought Pan-Africanism to America. Late 80s Early 90s Black African Americans popularized Teaching and encouraged African history and Afrocentric thought, dress and Identity. Until Africans decided to remind us of how much we aren't African. We dreamed of going there. We never saw Africa as a "losing team". We just got tired of trying to fit in where we weren't invited.
@@rafaelw8115 A good way to prove me wrong is point to the African continent's version of Tariq Nasheed, Dr claud Anderson, Umar Johnson, etc.... You get the picture.. We are ready to come visit once we are properly invited.
@@bagmanejayGarvey did not bring pan-africanism to America it was around before Garvey the first pan-african conference was in London Marcus Garvey was nowhere near
THROUGH MEDIA YOU CAN CHANGE ANY NARRATIVE We all know that our problem is the international media But no one on the whole continent is even talking about creating a professional media outlet to change the narrative
Me nah lie i feel disappointed?why cause as a Jamaican myself we own Africa as our mother island than any other diaspora and i say this with a life or death situation. We don't play. Be on a serious the not all of US are like yh am African
Exactly Jamaicans have always claimed their root. Far more than Black Americans, they still have African customs last I heard, still eat African foods just with a twist to it. Hence why Caribbeans are usually easier for Africa to embrace and can adjust to Africa with near enough no problems compared to black Americans.
This title is misleading. Caribbeans see themselves as of African heritage. But the fact of the matter is people identify with their nationalities, it's not that deep.
The fair skinned people you see in Egypt and Northern Africa today actually are not African...They are descendants of invaders from Greece, Rome, Turkey, etc. Some have mixed with the Black Africans who were already there, but many are just straight European.
We are descendants of Africa but some of us also carry indigenous Jamaican genetics, among other ethnic groups, the average Jamaican is 70-90% African. Sadly, some harbor self-hate stemming from the legacy of slavery and ignorance, some bring up the moto out of many one people to include every ethnicity, however it was made by normal manley to represent those tribes affected by slavery in JA, not yts, not chinese. i dont see any African nations bringing up what we went through during slavery, nor do they care. We had to embrace our own path which we've done well as Jamaicans, since we were left by African nations a long time ago. Either way we are one, and i truly love Africa.
Why wouldn't the DJ fully identify himself? The Caribbean is a fairly general area. Now that he isn't Jamaican (which most East Africans know), then a which country he kwom from?
You know not of what you speak. WE are mostly of African descent but are Jamaican. Africans SOLD our forefathers into slavery so why should I consider myself African?
If we want to be purely honest with ourselves having our ancestors dating back from Africa attempts to unite all of us who are of dark skin color to having the same ancestry. The facts are that our histories are much more unique than that. We come from different tribes that often enslaved and sold each other as such. Our ancestral cultural differences are deep and diverse. Even our religions were not all the same. No wonder many Jamaicans do not want to be associated with the dark history in Africa but rather embrace their Eurasian ancestry.
Am Grenadian born & am proud of that fact, am also an African am also proud of that fact, big up Africa big up all blackpeopl should be proud to be African aftera after is said an dun we are the first on this planet we African are responsible all the beautiful colours on this planet even the spiteful ones.
Jamaicans know they are African but they are proud of their own country and culture. They have their own language, cuisine, music etc all their own even though has African roots and influence. Caribbeans as a whole have different vibe considering their culture stems from life in an island which is a completely different experience than life in a large continent. They have their sports figures and are a great internally respected culture and country. Just like Nigerians are African but proud Nigerians or Ibo etc first and foremost.
Jamaica is an island. Africa is a continent. What you just said about Jamaica, every country in Africa and specific ethnic group says too. i.e., Kenyans know they are African but they are proud to be Kenyan. Tanzanians know they are African but they are proud to be Tanzanian. Also, there are also African islands like Cabo Verde and Sao Tome. You are African not because you're born on the continent, you are African because it's born in you, your DNA, genetics, culture, how you move, how you talk, etc. That's whether you're an African from Jamaica or an African from Botswana.
All black people are from Africa, PERIOD!!! They can deny as much as they want but a fact is fact - Some Jamaicans are mixed with White and South Indians 🤷🏽♂️
Not true at all >>>>>>> Jamaicans aren't considered African, Africa is not a one fit's all Ethnicity just like black isn't really a ethnic group . There where many indigenous black people in Jamaica, Hawaii, etc. long before Columbus arrived and while in the Americas they mixed with other Native Indian populations that's why some Indian tribes had lighter skin while some had darker skin depending on the tribes they came from. The EUROPEANS where more on the side of the lighter skinned Native Indians who they called Native Americans. Not all Native Indian tribes where given the title Native Americans since the name America didn't even exist back then. The ones called Native Americans where the ones who joined forces with white rebels to kidnap other Native tribes and run away slaves to sell them into slavery and they where rewarded for it, some even had slaves themselves because they where considered white due to their lighter skin and even mixed more with white populations to the point that no white person could tell who was Native American and who wasn't. Jamaicans on the other hand are a add mixture of black Native Indians , the Moroonian Crypto Hebrew slaves from Portugal and when they arrived in Jamaica they where already mixed with a very slight Portuguese DNA , then some where taken from places such as Nigeria but very few.... the much older history books teaches that very few slaves where taken to the West Indies because many of those places where already inhabited by who they called the N word so they said it would be no reason to bring more. Also some Jamaicans are mixed with East Indian DNA when the Europeans started bringing over East Indians, many of them mixed into the rest of the Jamaican population and then many Japanese came in.... it's very rare but some Jamaicans that looks 100% black is very shocked to find that they have some Japanese DNA in them as well.
THAT WOMAN A TALK FOR HER SELF MAJORITY OF BLACK JAMAICAN KNOW WE ARE FROM AFRICAN DESENDANT AND WE OBJECT TO THAT WOMAN SPEAKING FOR US TALK FOR YOURSELF ❤ AFRICAN JAMAICAN
The first understanding is Jamaica is not a race . Majority of Jamaicans are Afro carribeans but there are Indian Chinese Portuguese Irish lebenase even German Jamaicans. But some may not feel African because ethnically they could mixed with indigenous or European through generations which could lead to them not just isolating one thing which is African but also embracing the other side which brings confusion.
No, black Americans are mostly on average 20-25% mixed, but knew we were Africans. A large number of us are history deniers now. Either we are the original native Americans, or we are the original children of Israel. European leaders are talking re-colonizing Africa because of its resources and riches. Deniers want no part of the continent.
What you are saying is true, however, what the lady on the video said, is that Indians Jamaicans don’t take offense of being labeled Indians, and that Afro Jamaicans were the one identifying as Jamaicans first. I don’t think it applies to all Jamaicans, however that reminds me of Afro Latinos saying “ I’m not black, I’m Latino…”
@@biorobot2 that is true I read that but I can’t remember I think it was around 1900 or late 1800 that the Afro Jamaicans started calling themselves as just Jamaicans because the slave tribes intermixed during slavery . Which means they was neither Ghanaian Nigerian Congolese Sierra Leone maybe moors from Spain or whatever slaves came to Jamaica India is a specific country Africa is a continent . Not everyone is the same in Africa
@biorobot2 I don't get the Afro-Latino reference. There are a lot of African Americans that use black American and African American interchangeably. I viewed a video where an African American man was telling a Nigerian man that he was African and not black. Afro-Latinos grew up being called black in the latin culture. They see being called black outside the latin culture, referring to one's nationality and not color plus culture. Within the African diaspora, we inherited the same basic African cultures but expanded and augmented them based on localization. Each can be very different based on colonial experiences of people's ancestors. The same complaint I've heard against Kamala Harris. Is she black, or is she Jamaican? I have heard people say that she claimed that she was Jamaican and not black according to them. As if black was a nationality just like Jamaican.
@@lieutenantcolombo1758Europeans regardless what tribe they came from call themselves white/Caucasian. This nonsense about what tribe you belong to was only created to cause division.
Help me understand, i'M 63 year old AFRiCAN BLK AMERiCAN, it iZ 2023 , you beautiful people are about the age of my children, and ALL You were taught about Black People for History was Slavery? South America and the Caribbean maintained most of AFRiCAN Culture, than America and the UK iZ not that far from the Continent, So help me understand?🤔
Yes you do have black Jamaica who are not serious about Africa. However the majority of blacks who praise and loves the African culture. Please keep in mind that The Hon. Marcus M. Garvey, Bob Marley, and Rastafarism started or founded in Jamaica. ☮️🇯🇲
Just understand we Jamaicas still eat semilar food to west Africans, yams, plantain, cassava etc,we use African words in our language, we know the Anancy stories from the Ashanti people in Ghana, passed down the generations in Jamaica.
I am Jamaican growing up hear the rastafari singing about africa and going back to africa,I knew we are Africans Jamaican,the younger people nowadays maybe a little different but I grew up living the African ways,so that lady has heard a person say they're not African, yes they weren't born in africa that's what they mean,because I heard it younger ones saying they are not African because they weren't born there,they know their ancestors are fr Africa so they're of African lineage,I wasn't ashamed of Africa I saw sick hungry people and children I felt so sorry and angry at the same time,we believe the white people took disease to africa,and again they says in history that our own people sold us out,but a lot of Jamaican and carribean people watch a lot of Nigerian movies which show how much alike we are I love Africans and africa,
That Jamaican woman in the video was talking a bunch of nonsense. Not because a Jamaican woman is dressed in Rasta gear that means she knows what she is talking about. I responded to her video and told her she was talking nonsense. All of Jamaican black people know that their ancestors are from Africa. We know that the Olmecs left Africa and populated Mexico, the Caribbean and America but the Olmecs came from Africa. So for those people who are saying that black people were in the Americas region before slavery, you are right but the Olmecs came from Africa.
Runoko Rashidi's theory prior to his transition, believed that the Olmec civilization was a Native "American" one that happened to have significant African contributors to their civilization and that's why they were honored with the large African statue heads. There are many other large heads that don't have the African features.
Most of Jamaican dance, music, art and other cultural forms are directly influenced through African roots. There cultural events like Junkanoo, kumina and other cultural art forms and dance come directly from our West African roots. Agreed with the panel regarded to the disconnect but these forms are taught to most Jamaicans through media during the Heroes day, Independence and Emancipation day celebrations.
9:22 Just like Bantus split up into various languages and tribes as they spread across Africa. They've been separated and changed by different experiences over centuries, but still Bantu right? Same with the Caribbean, except we mixed and have no single locus of origin. So we are of African descent, yet we must respect our differences. Its presumptuous to claim to be African, knowing nothing of the place and the people, or ignoring the obvious differences.
British Caribbean here of African descent; firstly race is a Western social construct soley based on skin colour (black, white, brown, mixed). Ethnicity includes elements such as culture, geographical origins, language etc. Every racially Black person is ethnically African or a mix of African and other ethnicities. Unfortunately when the Europeans decided to exploring and colonise the world and displace many Africans from the continent hundreds of years ago, they also took away our anxestors identity and then we just had to create our own. African Americans, Afro Caribbeans and Afro Latinos are all African, we were all on the same boat, just got off at different stops.
The most important thing that you guys didn’t discuss in this video is that all West African governments need to apologize to the African Diaspora worldwide for selling their ancestors into slavery. Yes we know some of our ancestors were kidnapped by Europeans and Americans and forced into slavery against their will but African Kings from Nigeria, Ghana and most of west Africa sold some of our Ancestors to Europeans and for that the West African Government must apologize and there must be a day of atonement that should be recognized annually. Diaspora governments in the Caribbean are negotiating reparations with past Colonizers but West African governments need to apologize and pay some form of reparations as well.
Once you're black or of African descent you're African, African is a race not just a land mass. Jamaica has played a huge roll in the genesis and growth of Pan-Africanism so a generalized statement like this is misrepresentation of the views of Jamaicans. Lastly it's not Caribbeans, it's West Indians.
Black is not a race either. Black Australians are not the same race as Black Jamaicans. Black Africans, Black Melanesians, Black Indians and Black Americans are all different race.
Yes, when Babylon falls, many people from other parts of the world will be looking toward Africa for refuge! Hear these words. A Africa is the start, and Africa is the centre of the world, not Israel as many people think. About Jamaicans, there are some Jamaicans that do not consider themselves Africans and there are some that do. It is not fair to just say Jamaicans because that gives the impression that all Jamaicans think the same and they really don't.
Jamaica is a country made of MANY races. The majority are black. When you say you are Jamaican it means your family has a mixture of several races. In one family you could find people from Africa, Europe, Asia, India etc. So we have black chineese, black Germans. So as our motto says- out of many. One people
British Slave Masters displayed African Ancestors to different Caribbean Islands and French Slave Masters displayed Africans to Haiti. And USA and Canada were established illegally by British Slave Masters and French Slave Masters and in turn displayed Africans into both Nations. Love from DC. ------ Osollo
@enosger I understand that. My question is, how can you be from a region without coming from a specific country or a mixture of countries? Just curious.
As a black Jamaican I see my self as a west African, I look no different to west African. it confuse me when other black Jamaican's say they are not African. Don't know waht to make of it, not matter where a Jew settle they are still Jew first and foremost they don't stop being Jew.
I know there are a few but by majority most know and embrace they're root. They've never been as lost as certain other people. But if they are becoming Americanised no surprise that they've lost their root.
It was slavery that brought us to Jamaica. Without the participation of our ancestors, we would still be on the continent of Africa. Why is there no discussion about our ancestors being sold, and how many got wealthy from it? My nationality is Jamaican first. There are people from the continent in the UK who don’t accept us. My friend’s mother calls me "slave baby," so why should I pretend as if we are loved by Africans? Only some love us. In my speech fighting the Home Office for the right to stay here, I spoke about the plantations that helped build Britain.
Rasta do they are the most conscious Jamaicans listen to reggae . I love the Rasta for embracing us. But Haitians are more like siblings . African Americans most of them know their roots that’s why they are called African Americans . They are repatriating to Africa in numbers .
Because not all Jamaicans are African descent. smh. I'm a Jamaican of Portugueses jewish descent via my mother and part African through my Dad but I Identify as Jewish NOT African and I am jewish under jewish law. And im part of the JEWISH community NOT the African or western "blk community" if it exists. No offence. So Yes my nationality is Jamaican and my ethnicity is Jewish. simple as that. I'm not born in Africa or Identify with it. I recognise i'm part African but i'm not interested in it. When it comes to Africa I am only interested in the Jews of Ethiopia or the Lemba in Africa as they are my people as fellow JEWS thats all. Jamaica is a multinational place. it depends on how you are grown and to which side of your family you are close too if you are mixed.Also The Rasta Jamaicans identify with Africans and so do the Maroon Jamaicans. Even the Pocomanian Jamaicans Identify with Africa. There are Jewish Jamaicans (Ashkenazi and Sephardic), Cuban Jamaicans, Indian Jamaicans, Syriac Jamaicans, chinese Jamaicans, African Jamaicans etc.
I think that Jamaicans need to appreciate and promote African culture and heritage more than anything else and teach history in a more balanced form, for example instead of just teaching the slave trade, teach how African heritage conquered adversity of the world! And pre colonial history and culture. The Caribbean does not have be a European colony it can be called an independant African enclave and territory
Why do these need to do this? Just because their descendants are from Africa doesn't mean they have to keep their traditions etc, I am from Spanish descendants doesn't mean I need to adopt their ways. I know nothing about Spain nor care too. Let people cherish their current country.
Why compel Jamaicans to be africans? When asked about our ethnicity overseas, im identified as black caribbean. Its not like we are disowning our roots but Jamaicans are who we are. Its a racially mixed society so not all will embrace our roots. AGAIN, Jamaica is not the only country in the caribbean.
I think having this conversation without a Jamaican perspective is a bit biased. Most of us as Jamaicans are very aware of our ancestry and strongly embraces it. We can be Jamaicans of African ancestry, both ideas can be and are true and to deny this is just share stupidity
Mama Africa is a Mother of multiple children... But let be real, as long as us Africans from the motherland are still separated by those artificial borders blocking us to emerge as a Super Power, most of those folks will try to deassociate themselves to us... Let Get Our Shit Together and Respect Will Follow, Crime and disrespect against our People all over the World will drastically dropped, because the price to pay will be emediate and too high for them to carry.... Much Love To my Caribbean's People, let Bring Haiti as a full member of the African Union as well instead of trying to introduce country like Israel as observers... I'm out 😎🔥🦁
If you go to Jamaica and ask if their Africans they should know that they are unless they missed school or can't read or is lost. On the streets everyone will say I am African...I don't know what she is saying...you might have taken her out of context. On the streets it will be said yeah we are one and a lot of them want to visit and want to return home. But we don't know Africa for sure...it's been losses but many of us will say our roots and know it. Even some of the whitest Jamaicans call themselves such...we didn't know much but had been proud. Besides a lot the foods we enjoy in Jamaica is from Africa..the flavours, the culture and most of the celebrations in our country came out of African culture...also we can understand the Nigerian pig in because our creole is similar....it might be a bit of confusion. Our culture is mostly African ...proper education if not met might be causing an identity crisis.
I don't know anything about this. I've never met any Jamaicans who try to distance themselves from their African roots. I've had waaay more Jamaicans of Asian or European ancestry try to claim African roots, just by virtue of our mutual Jamaicanness. A bit delusional, but it's a beautiful thing. I think there's a difference between saying Jamaicans are of African descent, and saying that plus a bunch of other political nonsense propaganda with it. Most everyone will accept the simple fact, but try to attach various ideas and dubious claims with it and we are going to reject them. Don't then claim we don't see ourselves as African descendants. Others simply recognize that we have been isolated for long enough that we feel disingenuous to say we are the same when we clearly see how different we have become. Source: Im a Jamaican born and bred, live in NY metro area, met other Jamaicans on 4 other continents, married to an African.
how much American first before anything else culture difference everything different that don't say we all are human and connected together in somewhere no matter the color
1828 Webster dictionary of an American is below. Key words cooper colour. AMER'ICAN, adjective Pertaining to America. AMER'ICAN, noun A native of America; originally applied to the aboriginals, or copper-colored races, found here by the Europeans; but now applied to the descendants of Europeans born in America.
I'm 🇯🇲 born in UK but my roots are African Ghanaian ✊🏾 I am African that's where I'm saving up to move to Africa✊🏾 🖤💯
🤔 how did you get to that conclusion did you do a dna test
@@lieutenantcolombo1758 what sort of comment is this?
@@rafaelw8115Why can’t the young Africans build Africa ?
@@rafaelw8115 Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said that you said Africans on the continent we’re better then the diaspora. I said to you why don’t the young Africans on the continent build Africa instead of the diaspora.
@@josweetlove1537happen to be born in Jamaica 🇯🇲 not by choice but by the west greediness i mon claims all of africa 🌍 😊
We are of African descent, but we are not Africans in the sense that we weren't born on the continent, we don't speak any African languages, we don't belong to any specific African ethnic groups because our ancestors came from various groups. We live in a nation outside of Africa and we have our own culture that's a blend of our African elements, European and to some degree native. There's nothing wrong with that. We are not less than or damaged goods. We forget that there are people in Africa that are so mentally colonized they reject much of their traditional cultures.
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I agree
As on the continent, different ethnic groups came together to form new ethnic groups, African Jamaicans are another African ethnicity. The Jamaican language is an African Caribbean language. You don't have to be born on the continent when what makes you African is your genotype, phenotype, how you move, speak, dance, live, love. Africa was born in you.
@@cultureducation Your definitions don't apply across the board though. Phenotypes range within many families from very light to very dark. I'm not an African. I'm of African descent. It's part of us for sure, but we have a different culture. It has a lot of African influence, but there's also a lot of differences. This is who we are and we don't need to feel any type of way because of it. I'm Jamaican, first off. I hail my African ancestry, but I know I'm not exactly the same nor do I try to be. I don't have to. I have a culture and I love it.
@@TRUTHTEACHER2007 do you believe there's a continental wide culture that all Africans share that would exclude the Africans who were stolen? Tell me what that is.
I am an African American and I went to Montego Bay, and stayed in a Black owned bed and breakfast. The Jamaican Brothers and sisters that I met were really nice, I also loved that they enjoyed life. Everyday there was a music party, big speakers in the middle of the grass and every one dancing and having fun, and the food!!!!! reminded me of our soul food!!! Callaloo, brown stew chicken, Kingfish, jerk chicken,ackee and Plantain!!!! Oh my God!!! The thing I see about all of us, continental and diasporan Africans, is that we know how to have fun!!!!!
This is the best thing all Black travelers should do, support our own establishments and not the racist resorts run by whites and others that exclude Black/African Jamaicans on the island! Medase (thank you) my brother or sister!
A true!
Im a black American from charleston, SC and we are geechee/gullah people. As gullah/geechee ppl its important for us to hold on to our African roots. Now because of social media and UA-cam i look at a lot of African content and all i see is us in them. We are definitely the same people. I think it's important for us to reconnect to Mama Africa ❤
Gullah/Geechee here🤘🏽
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I noticed Gullah/geechee is different from other Black folks in America.
@brotherkareem181 yes. People that's not familiar with us when they hear us they think we are from the Caribbean or Africa. We all the same people💪🏿💪🏿
@@Gullah84 I don’t think we all the same. The Gullah/Geechee & the creole’s are different ethnic groups from the rest of the Black Americans.
@brotherkareem181 we are all of African descent no matter our differences.
Jamaica is an extension of Africa just like Haiti and other dominant black islands.
Most of you look down on us but Haitians are siblings , they are telling me that all these island look down on them . Because they are more African .
No jamaica is country not island fake history the whites give you
@@Hlaluminathi-u9p Who is most of you?...Can you be a bit more specific...Who looks down on who...? I hate this generalisation that some of us make about each other, because I am sure you have relatives who look down on you as well 😂😂😂.
Jamaica, Haiti and other dominant black islands is a extension of America. Africa is just Africa and have nothing to do with this. Thank You!
As an African I somewhat get it though. Jamaicans may have African ancestry but they are not African, they are Jamaican so of course they are going to identify with Jamaica over Africa because that’s what’s they know and it’s where they came from but having said that, *some* of them want nothing to do with being African out of underlying self hatred. Some Jamaicans would get *really* offended if you called them African. I remember in the 90s in school *some* Jamaicans would diss Africans (and vice versa) yet some of them had more African features than me 🤦🏿♂️ Them same types would embrace having European & Indian DNA over having African DNA. So there is a subconscious ignorant mindset towards Africans derived from slavery & brainwashing
Please say some Jamaicans. Many Jamaicans, including myself, consider themselves Africans first. 🇯🇲
Thanks ❤
Thats right, I must conclude These people have no idea what they are talking about.
I don't know how they collect data but I don't know of people who believe they are not in Jamaica unless they are uneducated and perhaps sometimes have a very poor mentality. That woman is just schisms.
Then they me which African country you're from because last I checked Jamaica isn't in Africa
True. He can't say everyone. So say some. While others are AFRICAN.
A who tell yu dat!! We are proud African 👏🏼. One love Jamaica 🇯🇲
If you is a Chinese Jamaican this conversation is nor for you.
I don't hear any country in Africa asking you to come back 😅
@@horatiobarnes8608@horatiobarnes8608 Why are you being so separatist and disrespectful of other ethnic groups who are legitimately born and bred Jamaicans? Do you have any idea how diverse our history is? So many groups suffered alongside the blacks on the plantations. Many were there on the plantation before the Africans came, and each group of these ancestors should be respected for surviving that horrible history that we probably would not have survived. I'm not taking anything from being African or being of African descent, but the Ugandan male host needs to do more reading. He has a lot of facts wrong. As a Jamaican, I believe our forefathers were wise in saying OUT of MANY ONE PEOPLE - in our motto. They wanted their future generations to live together in ONE LOVE AND PEACE. I intend to visit Africa and China and learn more about my ancestors. I love and respect them both because I am who I am because of them. Are you telling me I have no right to exist? Look up the Japanese and how they have adopted our dance culture and lifted it up in their country. Should we go there and tell them not to enjoy our culture and buy our music? Spread love, not hate !
As a Jamaican, I feel comfortable in saying that Jamaican know that they are genetically African but enthusiastically/ culturally they are not; there are times when black in the diaspora are reminded by African from the continent’s of this.
You can say that about any colonized African anywhere in the African world, including continental Africans from metropoles that are enthusiastically into Western culture and that's what they practice, not African Culture.
@@cultureducation what is African culture?
@@beatrice123ful African culture is the commonalities you find across African cultures of the thousands of Black/African ethnic groups found throughout the African world. Dr. Cheikh Anta Diop, the Senegalese scientist and Africana scholar, wrote about it many years ago in his highly regarded book, The Cultural Unity of Black Africa. It is those commonalities that make an overarching African culture.
No Jamaicans aren't considered African, Africa is not a one fit's all Ethnicity. There where many indigenous black people in Jamaica, Hawaii, etc. long before Columbus arrived and while in the Americas they mixed with other Native Indian populations that's why some Indian tribes had lighter skin while some had darker skin depending on the tribes they came from. The EUROPEANS where more on the side of the lighter skinned Native Indians who they called Native Americans. Not all Native Indian tribes where given the title Native Americans since the name America didn't even exist back then. The ones called Native Americans where the ones who joined forces with white rebels to kidnap other Native tribes and run away slaves to sell them into slavery and they where rewarded for it, some even had slaves themselves because they where considered white due to their lighter skin and even mixed more with white populations to the point that no white person could tell who was Native American and who wasn't. Jamaicans on the other hand are a add mixture of black Native Indians , the Moroonian Crypto Hebrew slaves from Portugal and when they arrived in Jamaica they where already mixed with a very slight Portuguese DNA , then some where taken from places such as Nigeria but very few.... the much older history books teaches that very few slaves where taken to the West Indies because many of those places where already inhabited by who they called the N word so they said it would be no reason to bring more. Also some Jamaicans are mixed with East Indian DNA when the Europeans started bringing over East Indians, many of them mixed into the rest of the Jamaican population and then many Japanese came in.... it's very rare but some Jamaicans that looks 100% black is very shocked to find that they have some Japanese DNA in them as well.
JAMAICANS ARE PROUDLY...MADE IN AFRICA...!!!
NO DOUBT ABOUT IT...!!!
but which country
The majority of Jamaicans are of African decent however, there are other races of persons born in Jamaica. If we all say we are weer we descended from, then is therefore no Jamaican Identity/culture.
The Jamaica 🇯🇲 that i born in always see themselves as African in a extremely proud way to this day, Jamaicans love Africa so much that Jamaica 🇯🇲 was the first country in the world to boycott South Africa and speak out extremely loud about President Bota government and the wicked treatment to black South Africans, Nelson Mandela could not wait to visit Jamaica 🇯🇲 after his release from prison Jamaica 🇯🇲 was one of his first country to visit and thank the Jamaican people for their loud voice on what was happening to black South Africans, Jamaica has always been the eyes outside of Africa with great concern about what is happening in Africa, yes we love being Jamaicans but our eyes are always on the mother land Africa ,Jamaica 🇯🇲 is and always been the little piece of Africa outside of Africa ,with a voice for Africa bigger than any other country outside of Africa.
Now you are just reachiing for content, Im a jamaican here on the island and we consider ourselves as africans. Im even planning to go there and spend some time
But u didn’t watch the video you are reaching to make a comment without watching the video smh
I am Jamaican and I know many even in my family that want nothing to do with Africa
Jamaica is an extension of Africa....our bloodline runs deep with each other...So I am with you bro! Love from an African brother!
@@Kenganda fair enough, i just finish
There is a huge African consciousness in the Caribbean. Honestly we don't need everybody
Ah Jamaican here, and proud to be an AFRICAN Jamaican. That person speaking doesn't speak for all of Jamaican with respects🙏🏽 we love our roots!
You're CARIBBEAN Jamaican 👍🏽
@@AfricanMaverick maybe you, but iam African Caribbean 🤣
Thank you, I caught this video late, glad you were here correcting error.
@Lars-A Happy to hear you’re view brother ❤❤. We’re all one people’s. Love from Africa
Someone who's actually got confidence. Good you aren't a insecure self hater that can't admit his own kind. Self hater's are more pethedic than the people hating on someone because they're a different race than them. Black's that hate their own kind show that they've been defeated by us White's which shows weakness. I have no respect for the weak. I don't know why it's so hard for people to be strong. There's way too many weak people with zero confidence in themselves. I respect you for loving yourself. There's too many self haters in the black community. I hope you continue to love yourself and give anyone that tries to convince you you're less than them the middle finger. I'm on the autism spectrum and I get neurotypicals that act like I'm inferior to them but I don't let it make me feel inferior because like most aspies I'm naturally intelligent. Neurotypicals got better social skills than us aspies but neurotypicals often lack logic. I don't see Asperger's as a disability because neurotypicals and people on the autism spectrum are both gifted in their own ways.
There is some truth to what she is saying…… but maybe 30 years ago. More and more Jamaicans are owning their Africaness and even moving to the continent.
I am a African Jamaican
You we're lord to and brain washed JAMAICANS BLACK ANCESTORS WERE FROM ANCIENT ISREAL, JAMAICANS ANCESTORS ARE THE ISREALITES OF THE BIBLE DRIVEN OUT OF ISREAL BY THE ROMANS AND CAPTURED AND BROUGHT TO WEST AFRICA AND SOLD BY AFRICANS TO THE WHITE MAN IN JAMAICA
I am a Jamaican born in Kingston, currently married to an African man from the Gambia. Too many of us love Bob Marley, and other artist who sang roots and culture, music and many of loved those vibes around the world and, there’s so many of us in the Caribbean that learned about Africa through them. So that lets you know there is more of us who Love Africa and consider themselves Africans than those who don’t think that way. Do you see how many Jamaican Rastafarians are in Ethiopia or trying to get there. Before you create a podcast to cover a topic like this, please go to Jamaican and do your research first.
As a Jamaican, I know we have Africans ancestry
This is awesome and I've seen how much Gambia loves the African Jamaican culture from language to music!
The man is right, we are no Africans,they sold jamaican ancestors the isrealites
@@traceyannmiller1287no! Black Jamaicans are isrealites not africans
Love that we as a generation R having these conversations. We have progress, just wait
I’m from Jamaica and I’m in shock that these hosts would sit there and comment on a topic that is not only far from the truth, but they’re engaging in discussions they know nothing about and would actually sit there like what they’re saying applies to Jamaican’s who identify as Africans and love Africans, more than any other Caribbean nation. Every year I spend six months in Africa and my husband is from West Africa. For many of us in Jamaica and in the Caribbean from the time we’re born we are told we must go back to Africa. We love Africans, we are Caribbean Africans and if people don’t know that it’s because they practice classicism, or they are completely ignorant. Please stop Promoting foolishness in the African community and then sit there like you’re above us and You have to educate us because we are just stupid people who don’t know who we are, or where we come from. Please don’t make a show that insults our intelligence again, and sacrifice Jamaican‘s doing it. The nerves of these bougie Africans.
Jamaicans are Caribbeans. Africans are Africans.
If there’s a disconnection in the African diaspora, seek the truth by tracing your roots.
@@AfricanMavericksorry you don't determine that
@@uhurachezidek7674 I do. I'll protect Africa from foreigners.
@@AfricanMaverickthat's why I always go with those who believe there Africans those who don't believe they are Africans it's fine let's go with those who want to be on the train
I was born in Jamaica and now living in Canada. I'm an African first. all those countries we ended up in were nothing but POW camps. Some are prettier that others but they are still POW camps.
There is little truth to the headline; many black Jamaicans, do consider themselves to be African. There are some who hold on to the colonized, brainwashed mode of thought, but overall, most are proud to be associated with Africa.
The majority don’t see themselves as Jamaican I literally come from and live in Jamaica and most of them will say they’re of African decent but not African and even get offend often times if called that
@@squilliamfancyson3333They get offended at being called Jamaican or African?
But they actually aren't African.
@@squilliamfancyson3333non sense , 98 percent jamaicans are proud to be called Jamaicans instead of Africans so don't talk nonsense ,many jamaicans are offended if you call them Africa because Africa poor with flies in them mouth
@@AfricanMaverickwhat are Jamaicans?
As an African I somewhat get it though. Jamaicans may have African ancestry but they are not African, they are Jamaican so of course they are going to identify with Jamaica over Africa because that’s what’s they know and it’s where they came from but having said that *some* of them want nothing to do with being African out of underlying self hatred. Some Jamaicans would get *really* offended if you called them African. I remember in the 90s in school *some* Jamaicans would diss Africans (and vice versa) yet some of them had more African features than me 🤦🏿♂️ Them same types would embrace having European & Indian DNA over having African DNA. So there is a subconscious ignorant mindset towards Africans derived from slavery & brainwashing
When you where at school, you where a child did you always say or do the right thing..my my do you truly think children are gonna chose some that doesn't look appealing...as stated by the great peter tosh every blackman is an African full stop whether they kno or not...a lion born in the city will always be a lion nothing else...
No Jamaicans aren't considered African, Africa is not a one fit's all Ethnicity. There where many indigenous black people in Jamaica, Hawaii, etc. long before Columbus arrived and while in the Americas they mixed with other Native Indian populations that's why some Indian tribes had lighter skin while some had darker skin depending on the tribes they came from. The EUROPEANS where more on the side of the lighter skinned Native Indians who they called Native Americans. Not all Native Indian tribes where given the title Native Americans since the name America didn't even exist back then. The ones called Native Americans where the ones who joined forces with white rebels to kidnap other Native tribes and run away slaves to sell them into slavery and they where rewarded for it, some even had slaves themselves because they where considered white due to their lighter skin and even mixed more with white populations to the point that no white person could tell who was Native American and who wasn't. Jamaicans on the other hand are a add mixture of black Native Indians , the Moroonian Crypto Hebrew slaves from Portugal and when they arrived in Jamaica they where already mixed with a very slight Portuguese DNA , then some where taken from places such as Nigeria but very few.... the much older history books teaches that very few slaves where taken to the West Indies because many of those places where already inhabited by who they called the N word so they said it would be no reason to bring more. Also some Jamaicans are mixed with East Indian DNA when the Europeans started bringing over East Indians, many of them mixed into the rest of the Jamaican population and then many Japanese came in.... it's very rare but some Jamaicans that looks 100% black is very shocked to find that they have some Japanese DNA in them as well.
The irony you have a Rasta has a thumbnail. That demography knows so much about Africa. One of the most Afrocentric people in the Caribbean.
Did u watch the video 😅
@@Kenganda I did. As a Jamaican this hit home and I appreciate the delicacy with the subject matter and the positive encouragement.
I am Haitian. Often people ask me where in Africa are you from? I tell them I'm Haitian. They look at me like what the heck is the difference. I was married to a Nigerian, he used to say to me: girl, you are African. I correct people not because i don't want to claim Africa. Looking at me you can tell I am african descent but you can't tell I am Haitian. I am well aware of my african culture heritage. I am also proud of my nationality. As screwed up as it may appear, I am not going to deny it and claim another. Although, slavery was a long time ago for us, Haitians still hold a lot of african values, customs, ideology. But, we would never claim to be africans. By the way, didn't Africa deny Haiti entry in AU?
Haitian is not a race or ethnicity . Haitian is a nationality . African is a race of Black people like Black Ethiopian or Black Somali or Black Jamaican or Black Nigerian or Black Brazilian . Different from White Haitian .
True. AU denied Haiti entry into the organization. I feel you on that! Hopefully, some day the will revisit the idea and expand the AU by incorporating such as Haiti to make the organization pan-African. I'm African from the Continent!
@marieguerda8373 Thank you for that info. I didn't know AU didn't allow Haiti into the organization. Shame on AU😢
There are white people who claim Africa, such as the Dutch Boers, so I don't understand Africans on the continent who don't want to be Africans. They are confused and yes Disconnected. Being "Disconnected " is a form of ignorance and Brainwashing! We need to Connect and Shout it Out!!❤
What Happened to Being African and proud? Qaddafi said he was African. Former President Anwar Sadat of Egypt was Nubian. A Nubian is an African. They are all Africans. Be proud of Africa❤❤❤❤❤❤
Some Jamaican desent in the West does not think that theyvare Africans. But should you go to Jamaica itself you may find a largly different opinion
98 percent Jamaicans don't see themselves as Africans
No Jamaicans aren't considered African, Africa is not a one fit's all Ethnicity. There where many indigenous black people in Jamaica, Hawaii, etc. long before Columbus arrived and while in the Americas they mixed with other Native Indian populations that's why some Indian tribes had lighter skin while some had darker skin depending on the tribes they came from. The EUROPEANS where more on the side of the lighter skinned Native Indians who they called Native Americans. Not all Native Indian tribes where given the title Native Americans since the name America didn't even exist back then. The ones called Native Americans where the ones who joined forces with white rebels to kidnap other Native tribes and run away slaves to sell them into slavery and they where rewarded for it, some even had slaves themselves because they where considered white due to their lighter skin and even mixed more with white populations to the point that no white person could tell who was Native American and who wasn't. Jamaicans on the other hand are a add mixture of black Native Indians , the Moroonian Crypto Hebrew slaves from Portugal and when they arrived in Jamaica they where already mixed with a very slight Portuguese DNA , then some where taken from places such as Nigeria but very few.... the much older history books teaches that very few slaves where taken to the West Indies because many of those places where already inhabited by who they called the N word so they said it would be no reason to bring more. Also some Jamaicans are mixed with East Indian DNA when the Europeans started bringing over East Indians, many of them mixed into the rest of the Jamaican population and then many Japanese came in.... it's very rare but some Jamaicans that looks 100% black is very shocked to find that they have some Japanese DNA in them as well.
We must keep pushing forward 💪🏾‼️👍🏽👍🏽
This is simply an educational question and context. When ppl say African they think it’s like saying Brazilian. Brazil 🇧🇷 is a nation Africa is a continent of racial origins. The first thing they will say is I’m from Jamaica not Africa.
My racial origins are African my nationality is a citizen of the United States of America 🇺🇸 my ethnicity is Amhara and Igbo and got brown skin
I immensely share in the yearning for a unified single African Country and I testify to this channel it's going to happen and in "our lifetime." Those "Africans" who currently disassociate themselves from the cause are hereby noted but respected and there'll be referenda in each Country followed by an international treaty before we legally become one. We will force no one to be part of it & a unified Africa must come from one's heart i.e. it must be desired & voted for. It'll be like a marriage with a certicate & treaty. For those who vote to stay out initially, the door must never be closed for them and they must be allowed to join at a future date. We need to learn to live with difference because with a current population of 1.4B + the Carribean & Diaspora and still counting, it's least likely we'll ever desire the same thing at the same time but the love for one another given what we have & continue to suffer will always take precedence over our perceived differences. Thank you for the topic. ❤
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@@AfricanMaverick No vision will ever be visable to everyone.
I'm half Jamican half Grenadian we have formed our own culture and a lot of us are mixed up. I amin predominantly of African decen my Grandmother is Indian and Scottish but was born in the caribbean.
@rafaelw8115 maybe also do some research see where & if some traditions you are used to resemble somethings you see in the many different african cultures of today & the past
So your family could of started off being white or indian b4 crossing over to the black side.
@@DAlo-r9tnope they were raped
@@rafaelw8115 You Americans still hang onto your racist, eurocentric definitions of race. If Youre mixed race, stop denying your FULL HERITAGE, slavery is over.
One drop rule means black genes are stain on ones blood, hence one drop corrupts other bloodlines and the child assumes the inferio%r parents racial stock. This is what you and other mixed race and mono racial belive.
If you only have 1 african ancestor or are only part african, you cant be JUST African. You're mixed. Stop destroying true africaness
@@rafaelw8115and all those cultures you mentioned are still writing and speaking with an Anglo saxon culture. Sheet we doing it right now.
Some Caribbean countries haven't lost all their culture or adopted it to stay with them, and they do have some level consciousness that they are africans.
Not sure how I stumbled upon this but I gave it a listen. Interesting perspective to which I can relate.
This video sounds crazy. As a Jamaican myself i only know 1 lost Jamaican who is reaching to identify with Irish ancestry and denounces Africa. Listen to the music, we always talk about mama Africa and know we originate from West Africa, namely Ghana and Nigeria
You we're lord to and brain washed JAMAICANS BLACK ANCESTORS WERE FROM ANCIENT ISREAL, JAMAICANS ANCESTORS ARE THE ISREALITES OF THE BIBLE DRIVEN OUT OF ISREAL BY THE ROMANS AND CAPTURED AND BROUGHT TO WEST AFRICA AND SOLD BY AFRICANS TO THE WHITE MAN IN JAMAICA
I think the reason a lot of us don't feel connected to the continent is because the continent does not connect to us. If the continent reached out and really had an impact on our lives in the present in a meaningful way, I think we'd be more inclined to identify with the continent.
@@rafaelw8115 Garvey brought Pan-Africanism to America. Late 80s Early 90s Black African Americans popularized Teaching and encouraged African history and Afrocentric thought, dress and Identity. Until Africans decided to remind us of how much we aren't African. We dreamed of going there. We never saw Africa as a "losing team". We just got tired of trying to fit in where we weren't invited.
@@rafaelw8115 Also tribalism is big as hell. You guys would not allow us to prosper in the same manner as we allow y'all to prosper in the Diaspora.
@@rafaelw8115 A good way to prove me wrong is point to the African continent's version of Tariq Nasheed, Dr claud Anderson, Umar Johnson, etc.... You get the picture.. We are ready to come visit once we are properly invited.
@@bagmanejayGarvey did not bring pan-africanism to America it was around before Garvey the first pan-african conference was in London Marcus Garvey was nowhere near
@@marteza654 My point was that we embraced it. Who brought to the U.S.? I thought It was Garvey?
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We all know that our problem is the international media But no one on the whole continent is even talking about creating a professional media outlet to change the narrative
Me nah lie i feel disappointed?why cause as a Jamaican myself we own Africa as our mother island than any other diaspora and i say this with a life or death situation. We don't play. Be on a serious the not all of US are like yh am African
Exactly Jamaicans have always claimed their root. Far more than Black Americans, they still have African customs last I heard, still eat African foods just with a twist to it. Hence why Caribbeans are usually easier for Africa to embrace and can adjust to Africa with near enough no problems compared to black Americans.
You guys are out of touch . Go do some research on Jamaica
Black Americans never had the opportunity to deny AFRICA..
This title is misleading. Caribbeans see themselves as of African heritage. But the fact of the matter is people identify with their nationalities, it's not that deep.
The fair skinned people you see in Egypt and Northern Africa today actually are not African...They are descendants of invaders from Greece, Rome, Turkey, etc. Some have mixed with the Black Africans who were already there, but many are just straight European.
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We are descendants of Africa but some of us also carry indigenous Jamaican genetics, among other ethnic groups, the average Jamaican is 70-90% African. Sadly, some harbor self-hate stemming from the legacy of slavery and ignorance, some bring up the moto out of many one people to include every ethnicity, however it was made by normal manley to represent those tribes affected by slavery in JA, not yts, not chinese. i dont see any African nations bringing up what we went through during slavery, nor do they care. We had to embrace our own path which we've done well as Jamaicans, since we were left by African nations a long time ago. Either way we are one, and i truly love Africa.
Why wouldn't the DJ fully identify himself? The Caribbean is a fairly general area. Now that he isn't Jamaican (which most East Africans know), then a which country he kwom from?
I’m 1/2 Dominican & 1/2 St Kitts & Nevis
@@DjMaintain Thanks. Now I know there's St. Kitts and David.
Jamaicans that don't consider them selves black is so ridiculous
but Africans should stop caring every body else know that they Africans.
You know not of what you speak. WE are mostly of African descent but are Jamaican. Africans SOLD our forefathers into slavery so why should I consider myself African?
If we want to be purely honest with ourselves having our ancestors dating back from Africa attempts to unite all of us who are of dark skin color to having the same ancestry. The facts are that our histories are much more unique than that. We come from different tribes that often enslaved and sold each other as such. Our ancestral cultural differences are deep and diverse. Even our religions were not all the same. No wonder many Jamaicans do not want to be associated with the dark history in Africa but rather embrace their Eurasian ancestry.
I so agree with you and the West Africans in the UK hate on the Caribbean people.
Am Grenadian born & am proud of that fact, am also an African am also proud of that fact, big up Africa big up all blackpeopl should be proud to be African aftera after is said an dun we are the first on this planet we African are responsible all the beautiful colours on this planet even the spiteful ones.
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Jamaicans know they are African but they are proud of their own country and culture. They have their own language, cuisine, music etc all their own even though has African roots and influence. Caribbeans as a whole have different vibe considering their culture stems from life in an island which is a completely different experience than life in a large continent. They have their sports figures and are a great internally respected culture and country. Just like Nigerians are African but proud Nigerians or Ibo etc first and foremost.
Jamaica is an island. Africa is a continent. What you just said about Jamaica, every country in Africa and specific ethnic group says too. i.e., Kenyans know they are African but they are proud to be Kenyan. Tanzanians know they are African but they are proud to be Tanzanian. Also, there are also African islands like Cabo Verde and Sao Tome. You are African not because you're born on the continent, you are African because it's born in you, your DNA, genetics, culture, how you move, how you talk, etc. That's whether you're an African from Jamaica or an African from Botswana.
No matter where you come from as long as you are black man you're a african.
All black people are from Africa, PERIOD!!!
They can deny as much as they want but a fact is fact - Some Jamaicans are mixed with White and South Indians 🤷🏽♂️
Not true at all >>>>>>> Jamaicans aren't considered African, Africa is not a one fit's all Ethnicity just like black isn't really a ethnic group . There where many indigenous black people in Jamaica, Hawaii, etc. long before Columbus arrived and while in the Americas they mixed with other Native Indian populations that's why some Indian tribes had lighter skin while some had darker skin depending on the tribes they came from. The EUROPEANS where more on the side of the lighter skinned Native Indians who they called Native Americans. Not all Native Indian tribes where given the title Native Americans since the name America didn't even exist back then. The ones called Native Americans where the ones who joined forces with white rebels to kidnap other Native tribes and run away slaves to sell them into slavery and they where rewarded for it, some even had slaves themselves because they where considered white due to their lighter skin and even mixed more with white populations to the point that no white person could tell who was Native American and who wasn't. Jamaicans on the other hand are a add mixture of black Native Indians , the Moroonian Crypto Hebrew slaves from Portugal and when they arrived in Jamaica they where already mixed with a very slight Portuguese DNA , then some where taken from places such as Nigeria but very few.... the much older history books teaches that very few slaves where taken to the West Indies because many of those places where already inhabited by who they called the N word so they said it would be no reason to bring more. Also some Jamaicans are mixed with East Indian DNA when the Europeans started bringing over East Indians, many of them mixed into the rest of the Jamaican population and then many Japanese came in.... it's very rare but some Jamaicans that looks 100% black is very shocked to find that they have some Japanese DNA in them as well.
THAT WOMAN A TALK FOR HER SELF MAJORITY OF BLACK JAMAICAN KNOW WE ARE FROM AFRICAN DESENDANT AND WE OBJECT TO THAT WOMAN SPEAKING FOR US TALK FOR YOURSELF
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The first understanding is Jamaica is not a race . Majority of Jamaicans are Afro carribeans but there are Indian Chinese Portuguese Irish lebenase even German Jamaicans.
But some may not feel African because ethnically they could mixed with indigenous or European through generations which could lead to them not just isolating one thing which is African but also embracing the other side which brings confusion.
No, black Americans are mostly on average 20-25% mixed, but knew we were Africans.
A large number of us are history deniers now. Either we are the original native Americans, or we are the original children of Israel.
European leaders are talking re-colonizing Africa because of its resources and riches. Deniers want no part of the continent.
What you are saying is true, however, what the lady on the video said, is that Indians Jamaicans don’t take offense of being labeled Indians, and that Afro Jamaicans were the one identifying as Jamaicans first. I don’t think it applies to all Jamaicans, however that reminds me of Afro Latinos saying “ I’m not black, I’m Latino…”
@@biorobot2 that is true I read that but I can’t remember I think it was around 1900 or late 1800 that the Afro Jamaicans started calling themselves as just Jamaicans because the slave tribes intermixed during slavery . Which means they was neither Ghanaian Nigerian Congolese Sierra Leone maybe moors from Spain or whatever slaves came to Jamaica India is a specific country Africa is a continent . Not everyone is the same in Africa
@biorobot2 I don't get the Afro-Latino reference. There are a lot of African Americans that use black American and African American interchangeably. I viewed a video where an African American man was telling a Nigerian man that he was African and not black. Afro-Latinos grew up being called black in the latin culture. They see being called black outside the latin culture, referring to one's nationality and not color plus culture.
Within the African diaspora, we inherited the same basic African cultures but expanded and augmented them based on localization. Each can be very different based on colonial experiences of people's ancestors.
The same complaint I've heard against Kamala Harris. Is she black, or is she Jamaican? I have heard people say that she claimed that she was Jamaican and not black according to them. As if black was a nationality just like Jamaican.
@@lieutenantcolombo1758Europeans regardless what tribe they came from call themselves white/Caucasian. This nonsense about what tribe you belong to was only created to cause division.
Help me understand, i'M 63 year old AFRiCAN BLK AMERiCAN, it iZ 2023 , you beautiful people are about the age of my children, and ALL You were taught about Black People for History was Slavery? South America and the Caribbean maintained most of AFRiCAN Culture, than America and the UK iZ not that far from the Continent, So help me understand?🤔
Yes you do have black Jamaica who are not serious about Africa. However the majority of blacks who praise and loves the African culture. Please keep in mind that The Hon. Marcus M. Garvey, Bob Marley, and Rastafarism started or founded in Jamaica. ☮️🇯🇲
I am Jamaican born & bred.. I've always known that I am African so I have no idea what these people are saying about Jamaicans!
Just understand we Jamaicas still eat semilar food to west Africans, yams, plantain, cassava etc,we use African words in our language, we know the Anancy stories from the Ashanti people in Ghana, passed down the generations in Jamaica.
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I am Jamaican growing up hear the rastafari singing about africa and going back to africa,I knew we are Africans Jamaican,the younger people nowadays maybe a little different but I grew up living the African ways,so that lady has heard a person say they're not African, yes they weren't born in africa that's what they mean,because I heard it younger ones saying they are not African because they weren't born there,they know their ancestors are fr Africa so they're of African lineage,I wasn't ashamed of Africa I saw sick hungry people and children I felt so sorry and angry at the same time,we believe the white people took disease to africa,and again they says in history that our own people sold us out,but a lot of Jamaican and carribean people watch a lot of Nigerian movies which show how much alike we are I love Africans and africa,
That Jamaican woman in the video was talking a bunch of nonsense. Not because a Jamaican woman is dressed in Rasta gear that means she knows what she is talking about. I responded to her video and told her she was talking nonsense. All of Jamaican black people know that their ancestors are from Africa. We know that the Olmecs left Africa and populated Mexico, the Caribbean and America but the Olmecs came from Africa. So for those people who are saying that black people were in the Americas region before slavery, you are right but the Olmecs came from Africa.
Runoko Rashidi's theory prior to his transition, believed that the Olmec civilization was a Native "American" one that happened to have significant African contributors to their civilization and that's why they were honored with the large African statue heads. There are many other large heads that don't have the African features.
Jamaican was the first country in the world to impose sanctions on Apartheid South Africa we know we are African by race.
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Most of Jamaican dance, music, art and other cultural forms are directly influenced through African roots. There cultural events like Junkanoo, kumina and other cultural art forms and dance come directly from our West African roots. Agreed with the panel regarded to the disconnect but these forms are taught to most Jamaicans through media during the Heroes day, Independence and Emancipation day celebrations.
9:22 Just like Bantus split up into various languages and tribes as they spread across Africa. They've been separated and changed by different experiences over centuries, but still Bantu right? Same with the Caribbean, except we mixed and have no single locus of origin. So we are of African descent, yet we must respect our differences. Its presumptuous to claim to be African, knowing nothing of the place and the people, or ignoring the obvious differences.
You ever heard of...PETER TOSH'S Classic Song...."AFRICAN"..???
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This is why I feel all black peoples affected by slavery should have a pilgrimage to Africa.
Thats not true, we are well aware of our past, who we are and where we came from but the focus for us now is who we are now and where we are going .
I don’t know one Jamaican who doesn’t know that he’s African. I was born and bred in Jamaica
British Caribbean here of African descent; firstly race is a Western social construct soley based on skin colour (black, white, brown, mixed). Ethnicity includes elements such as culture, geographical origins, language etc. Every racially Black person is ethnically African or a mix of African and other ethnicities. Unfortunately when the Europeans decided to exploring and colonise the world and displace many Africans from the continent hundreds of years ago, they also took away our anxestors identity and then we just had to create our own. African Americans, Afro Caribbeans and Afro Latinos are all African, we were all on the same boat, just got off at different stops.
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No such thing as British Caribbean 😅your passport says British citizen of the United Kingdom
The most important thing that you guys didn’t discuss in this video is that all West African governments need to apologize to the African Diaspora worldwide for selling their ancestors into slavery. Yes we know some of our ancestors were kidnapped by Europeans and Americans and forced into slavery against their will but African Kings from Nigeria, Ghana and most of west Africa sold some of our Ancestors to Europeans and for that the West African Government must apologize and there must be a day of atonement that should be recognized annually. Diaspora governments in the Caribbean are negotiating reparations with past Colonizers but West African governments need to apologize and pay some form of reparations as well.
Once you're black or of African descent you're African, African is a race not just a land mass. Jamaica has played a huge roll in the genesis and growth of Pan-Africanism so a generalized statement like this is misrepresentation of the views of Jamaicans. Lastly it's not Caribbeans, it's West Indians.
Black is not a race either. Black Australians are not the same race as Black Jamaicans. Black Africans, Black Melanesians, Black Indians and Black Americans are all different race.
Yes this is fact. Black is not A Race. I absolutely despise this word to describe Afro texture people. And our colour is not even black
Wholly hair is Africa not the colour black. Our Albino are whites
Yes, when Babylon falls, many people from other parts of the world will be looking toward Africa for refuge! Hear these words. A Africa is the start, and Africa is the centre of the world, not Israel as many people think.
About Jamaicans, there are some Jamaicans that do not consider themselves Africans and there are some that do. It is not fair to just say Jamaicans because that gives the impression that all Jamaicans think the same and they really don't.
This title is miss leading I don’t like it. Jamaicans do consider ourselves Africans.
Jamaica is a country made of MANY races. The majority are black. When you say you are Jamaican it means your family has a mixture of several races. In one family you could find people from Africa, Europe, Asia, India etc. So we have black chineese, black Germans. So as our motto says- out of many. One people
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Love Africa mother land always
Maintain is correct...The same is true for so called "African-Americans".
Black Americans were hit over the head with “AFRICA” we were never allowed to deny slavery or Africa
British Slave Masters displayed African Ancestors to different Caribbean Islands and French Slave Masters displayed Africans to Haiti. And USA and Canada were established illegally by British Slave Masters and French Slave Masters and in turn displayed Africans into both Nations. Love from DC. ------ Osollo
I'm confused ... is there a country called "The Caribbean" ? I understand not being Jamaican, but which specfic country/countries is the DJ from?
The Caribbean is a region in North America,even the eastern Caribbean is like it’s own all East Caribbean islands use the same currency
@enosger I understand that. My question is, how can you be from a region without coming from a specific country or a mixture of countries? Just curious.
As a black Jamaican I see my self as a west African, I look no different to west African. it confuse me when other black Jamaican's say they are not African.
Don't know waht to make of it, not matter where a Jew settle they are still Jew first and foremost they don't stop being Jew.
I actually used to live on princess Anne’s drive in Bugolobi 😂
I know there are a few but by majority most know and embrace they're root. They've never been as lost as certain other people. But if they are becoming Americanised no surprise that they've lost their root.
African by race but Jamaican by nationality and ethnicity.
Many Black Americans, Lemba, Bani Israel of Senegambia, Yibir, Falasha, and Igbos are descendants of the ancient Israelites.
It was slavery that brought us to Jamaica. Without the participation of our ancestors, we would still be on the continent of Africa. Why is there no discussion about our ancestors being sold, and how many got wealthy from it? My nationality is Jamaican first. There are people from the continent in the UK who don’t accept us. My friend’s mother calls me "slave baby," so why should I pretend as if we are loved by Africans? Only some love us. In my speech fighting the Home Office for the right to stay here, I spoke about the plantations that helped build Britain.
It is the Nigerians that tend to say those things. They really hate the Caribbean people
Where have I heard this before Lol 😅😂😂
Rasta do they are the most conscious Jamaicans listen to reggae . I love the Rasta for embracing us. But Haitians are more like siblings . African Americans most of them know their roots that’s why they are called African Americans . They are repatriating to Africa in numbers .
Because not all Jamaicans are African descent. smh. I'm a Jamaican of Portugueses jewish descent via my mother and part African through my Dad but I Identify as Jewish NOT African and I am jewish under jewish law. And im part of the JEWISH community NOT the African or western "blk community" if it exists. No offence.
So Yes my nationality is Jamaican and my ethnicity is Jewish. simple as that. I'm not born in Africa or Identify with it. I recognise i'm part African but i'm not interested in it. When it comes to Africa I am only interested in the Jews of Ethiopia or the Lemba in Africa as they are my people as fellow JEWS thats all. Jamaica is a multinational place. it depends on how you are grown and to which side of your family you are close too if you are mixed.Also
The Rasta Jamaicans identify with Africans and so do the Maroon Jamaicans. Even the Pocomanian Jamaicans Identify with Africa.
There are Jewish Jamaicans (Ashkenazi and Sephardic), Cuban Jamaicans, Indian Jamaicans, Syriac Jamaicans, chinese Jamaicans, African Jamaicans etc.
I think that Jamaicans need to appreciate and promote African culture and heritage more than anything else and teach history in a more balanced form, for example instead of just teaching the slave trade, teach how African heritage conquered adversity of the world! And pre colonial history and culture. The Caribbean does not have be a European colony it can be called an independant African enclave and territory
Why do these need to do this? Just because their descendants are from Africa doesn't mean they have to keep their traditions etc, I am from Spanish descendants doesn't mean I need to adopt their ways. I know nothing about Spain nor care too. Let people cherish their current country.
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Why compel Jamaicans to be africans? When asked about our ethnicity overseas, im identified as black caribbean. Its not like we are disowning our roots but Jamaicans are who we are. Its a racially mixed society so not all will embrace our roots. AGAIN, Jamaica is not the only country in the caribbean.
Let them not be Africans,we have lots of people in Africa and i am proudly Igbo man from Anambra state of Nigeria.
I think having this conversation without a Jamaican perspective is a bit biased. Most of us as Jamaicans are very aware of our ancestry and strongly embraces it. We can be Jamaicans of African ancestry, both ideas can be and are true and to deny this is just share stupidity
Jamaicans sure love them some Haile Selassie though.
Mama Africa is a Mother of multiple children... But let be real, as long as us Africans from the motherland are still separated by those artificial borders blocking us to emerge as a Super Power, most of those folks will try to deassociate themselves to us... Let Get Our Shit Together and Respect Will Follow, Crime and disrespect against our People all over the World will drastically dropped, because the price to pay will be emediate and too high for them to carry.... Much Love To my Caribbean's People, let Bring Haiti as a full member of the African Union as well instead of trying to introduce country like Israel as observers... I'm out 😎🔥🦁
If you go to Jamaica and ask if their Africans they should know that they are unless they missed school or can't read or is lost. On the streets everyone will say I am African...I don't know what she is saying...you might have taken her out of context.
On the streets it will be said yeah we are one and a lot of them want to visit and want to return home. But we don't know Africa for sure...it's been losses but many of us will say our roots and know it.
Even some of the whitest Jamaicans call themselves such...we didn't know much but had been proud.
Besides a lot the foods we enjoy in
Jamaica is from Africa..the flavours, the culture and most of the celebrations in our country came out of African culture...also we can understand the Nigerian pig in because our creole is similar....it might be a bit of confusion.
Our culture is mostly African ...proper education if not met might be causing an identity crisis.
Jamaica has a German, Indian Chineese etc. They are Jamaicans, but they maintain some traditions . They are Jamaicans
Who's the Jamaicans people you guys ask that question... there is no other country in this world that love African like Jamaican
THIS "Jamaicans don't consider themselves Africans BUT WHY?" is the stupidest headline ever
Its okay they dont have to be considered african. they have their own island. Africans are already good.
I don't know anything about this. I've never met any Jamaicans who try to distance themselves from their African roots. I've had waaay more Jamaicans of Asian or European ancestry try to claim African roots, just by virtue of our mutual Jamaicanness. A bit delusional, but it's a beautiful thing. I think there's a difference between saying Jamaicans are of African descent, and saying that plus a bunch of other political nonsense propaganda with it. Most everyone will accept the simple fact, but try to attach various ideas and dubious claims with it and we are going to reject them. Don't then claim we don't see ourselves as African descendants. Others simply recognize that we have been isolated for long enough that we feel disingenuous to say we are the same when we clearly see how different we have become.
Source: Im a Jamaican born and bred, live in NY metro area, met other Jamaicans on 4 other continents, married to an African.
Just listen to Jamaican roots music and you will see how Jamaican cried for Africa. The whole Rasta religion is base on Africa.
how much American first before anything else culture difference everything different that don't say we all are human and connected together in somewhere no matter the color
I don’t know where this person get their information Rasta wave the Ethiopian flag for years just look at the color of Rasta
1828 Webster dictionary of an American is below. Key words cooper colour.
AMER'ICAN, adjective Pertaining to America.
AMER'ICAN, noun A native of America; originally applied to the aboriginals, or copper-colored races, found here by the Europeans; but now applied to the descendants of Europeans born in America.