BBC TVC Television Centre Final Look
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- My final look round BBC TVC, with my camcorder, just before it closed for redevelopment. I worked in the video recording area mostly in the basement from 1978 to 1985. I learnt to edit video from Pete Dunkley and Dave Jones by doing their presentation trailers editing for them in my spare time, thank you to them. So many secrets in those walls, but the Christmas outtake tapes were fun, and after a time everyone started showing outtakes. For many TVC was a second home, I loved it.
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I worked there in the sixties, on production side. Reminds me of going out on night filming from TV Centre. Looking back on it now, we did some very pioneering work in the world of television but didn t realise it then!!
A few years ago I visited Television Centre on one of the tours, and even then there was that sad feeling of this great place starting to die. Thanks for posting this video, it is very interesting, and gives an idea of what it must have been like in full swing. I bet it was 'something else!!'
When I worked fulltime at the BBC it felt like being part of an extended family, 12 years ago I left and worked independently
in corporate production, but now I occasionally freelance back at the BBC, the people are great and it’s still the best place to work.
Hi, Great video.
I'm looking for a particular shot of TVC for a TV programme we're making. Could you let me know the best way to contact you about this? Cheers Andrew
andrew.bunkle@northonetv.com
Just noticed your message about a TVC shot, do you still want this because I still have the rushes, Keith
Get the roller back!!!......Run the roller!!!!!
Thanks for posting this. It was my life's ambition to work here as a cameraman but sadly life didn't go that way for me.... but TVC will always hold a special place in my heart. Such a bad decision to close it.
amazing to watch Saturday Night Takeaway tonight to see how much its changed.
Thanks so much for uploading this to UA-cam
I need an aston III keyboard ! shame on whoever decided to sell off TV Centre , great vid thanks
Thanks for the final look. Its many years since I worked there. There were a lot of very talented people at the top of their profession.
Such a huge part of my youth, even though I was never there, it was present in so much of the big national TV events that we witnessed on the box. It is a shame the building couldn't have been refurbished, updated technically (with a bit of a clearout by the looks of things!) then returned to its original use.
That brought back some memories, Keith! Many thanks for sharing!
Pete Christy
Hi Pete, I tried emailing you the link but it didn’t work. I’m now
working at NBH, where you used to work. Hope you’re keeping well.
Thank you for posting Keith. Brought back many memories.
I watched this to see how things used to be! I've been working at the new TVC recently and must say they have done a great job on the redevelopment. Did feel weird though to be at 'the home of television' Great video. Thanks for posting. 👍
Thanks for sharing always wanted to have a look around the TV centre
Such a shame the BBC moved out of TVC, it held some great memories for me watching as part of the audience an episode of Last Of The Summer Wine being recorded and The Paul Daniel Show, where I ended up on the cutting room floor after he did a trick with numbers asking for audience members to write down numbers on a board, he unfortunately got it wrong so it was rerecorded. Along with other shows I saw. ... I used to be quiet a regular but then I was working at BBC Elstree at the time in the kitchen. The memories will stay with me for a long time
Thank you for your comments, two studios remain at TVC. I remember the restaurant and bar at Elstree, they used to make a great cheese omelette, Margaret was on the till.
@@homevideotransfer-vhstodvd9744 and linda who ran the bar at elstree her lad played for blackburn in the 90
I miss the television centre when I was a 1 year old :( sad day to leave to be demolished
OMG - that's me @ 1:35 digging out tapes - and little Tony @ 1:49 - we were hired together ! Fond memories.
Is that Nick Martin?
No, it's Dave O'S. Now @ KTNV ABC 13, Las Vegas, NV.
My mother & I were in the audience for a recording of an episode of One Foot in the Grave that my father appeared in - He got the biggest laugh of the evening! Also one of the Generation Game recordings. I was offered an apprenticeship with the BBC, repairing cameras etc after they had been out on location. At that time having just left school I did not want to have to leave home and do this course in Bristol. Now retired after 40+ years at HMRC!
Great upload. I got to tour Broadcasting House back in 2014 but I wish I had gone to TVC while I still had the opportunity. The mind boggles as to why such an iconic building was sold off; the BBC seemed to love showing it off in their programming back in the day. It almost seemed like sabotage to me.
I live in Scotland but this was an iconic building growing up in the 80s: Top Of The Pops, Doctor Who, Blue Peter...... I've only seen the building once in my life when I was going to Westfield Shopping Mall. Unplanned but glad I got to see it before it goes. What are the plans? Demolishing? I hope not
I did think the BBC used SGi computers. I saw a little O2 in the pile of obsolete equipment
Probably used to control a Pandora Pogle system
@@CarlsTechShed Those 02's were popular as weather systems stateside with either WSI or Weather Central, can't remember. Have one in my closet, probably still has the weather software on it.
@@marcusdamberger It was located next to a load of other colour grading equipment and I know for certain that the BBC bought several generations of Pandora systems. The SGI O2 was also used for their later systems such as the PiXi and the MegaDef. I’m not sure if the BBC had a MegaDef but they definitely had several Pogles because they were used to restore and colour-correct old episodes of Dr Who and Dad’s Army. If you watch some of the restoration videos the BBC have uploaded, you occasionally catch a glimpse of the Pogle control panels set into the desk.
Bugger eh ? I was there 1978 to 1989ish - Vt Shift 1. I dream of getting lost on the way to the restaurant block. I though the underground rout was only in my dream ! Bizarre.
12:00 Nice to see David Allan in action.
Is that studio 1 @08:59 I ask as I know Run The Risk was filmed that studio? I loved that programme more than any other as a kid and so desperately wanted to be on it. I wish the BBC truly would open its archive, after all, we all own it & as I thought it was going to do as opposed to do. with a selection of a few classics thrown in, Brit Box being a prime example. There a few episodes on UA-cam but I would love to watch seasons 1 & 2 again with Shane Richie & Peter Simon. If you wanna see the final generation were health & safety was there, but didn't interfere, Run The Risk was it. If anyone has episodes of it and get bored 1 day, please upload them, I assure you, for what it is worth, you will make a 36-year-old incredibly happy.
There is no earthly reason why a director has to yell and cuss at his crew like the phlegm-wad is doing in the background.
What programme was that gallery recording at 8:19 taken from? I hear the Eurovision theme played a bit after the director's ranting so is this from a Eurovision Song Contest held in the UK or from one of the programmes selecting the UK's entry in the build-up to an ESC?
Cheers Keith. Good to see some of my old Tel.Rec colleagues actually doing some work for a change. :P
What are you up to nowadays?
Freelancing, still mostly for the Beeb. Regular gig for the archives looking after the engineering side of their preservation projects.
I don’t suppose you have access to a 2” VTR?
I don't remember seeing any of you work:)
Very interesting.
remember walking through those corridors, less said the better!
You can’t leave that thought just hanging like that, what happened in those corridors?
I don't understand why this happened. Was it cheaper to farm out to Salford and Elstree than it would have been to maintain and/or upgrade TVC?. I think it's a real shame they ditched it. It's an iconic and history making venue.
But I watched a kind of tribute documentary on the place as it was being wound up, and it was obviously an extremely innovative and creative hive. But it was broadcast not long before the Jimmy Savile thing all came out. And a couple of the interviews alluded to the place being a bit of a den of iniquity, and I remember thinking the place had been a tad sordid at times. I wonder if that documentary would ever be re broadcast unedited given the things that have came to light since.
It was a sad move, but he building was old and expensive to run or refurbish and there’s not much money in the pot. The licence fee has fallen behind in recent years and people just don’t want to pay more than 25p a day for 13 BBC TV regions, 8 TV Channels and 15 local radio stations and also the world services. We make our choices I guess.
Can you clarify for me what the acronym CAR stands for? I understand that this was the main network control room for final output... so does it mean Control And Routing or something like that?
Central Apparatus Room
@@homevideotransfer-vhstodvd9744 - thank you. I knew it would be something easy, but of the many videos I've watched everyone uses in house jargon for a lot of things and rarely explain more. I even watched a Swap Shop segment on UA-cam where Noel shows you through the gallery, vision, audio, and many other areas... even in that video one of the team refers to it as C.A.R but doesn't explain what that means. I would have loved to work there in the hey day.
Odd to think you've got the same video capture, editing, and broadcast facilities on your laptop and smartphone these days.
People wouldn't believe the weight of just one 20 minute 2" tape, let alone the machine it was racked up on. All those old analogue master craftsman skills (like millisecond drop ins and outs/razor and tape edits) now less needed than steam engine firemen.
Hello, you seem to have some knowledge of that time and 2" recordings, please tell me more about the part you played back then?
spencer hardy Yes watching for the changes in the direction of the oxide particles so you knew where to make the splice in the 405/625 monochrome 2" quad tape.
Run the roller! Who was that?
Someone who had an urgent need for the roller to start running.
Simon Morris I think, it’s from a Eurovision the BBC hosted
I'm not from England, what's happening with this building? Are they moving to another location and tearing this down? Thanks!
It is being converted into flats, starting prices £500,000, some studios will remain though.
BBC will retain Studios TC1, TC2 and TC3, and operate them from September 2017. The rest of the complex was demolished and rebuilt to provide apartments, cafes, bars, cinema, night club etc. They have demolished the historic Studios TC4, TC5, TC6, TC7 and TC8. They are no more. Utter vandalism, an utter disgrace.
The BBC has production studios based in BBC Elstree which is around 16 minutes away from the old Television Centre. They moved to Elstree in 2013 whilst work was completed on Television Centre (or what is left of it). At Elstree they have a vast Studio D and a smaller Studio E, plus they have rented out two sound stages from the independent Elstree Studios company for them to use. Elstree's George Lucas Studio is home to their huge Saturday night prime time show Strictly Come Dancing.
There are rumours that even with BBC TV Centre three studios re-opening in September 2017, the BBC would like to maintain a large presence at Elstree, which is already the home to two drama productions Eastenders and Holby City.
Since this iconic building closed down, the Beeb have moved into an extension of Broadcasting House, calling it NEW Broadcasting House and, rather than keep W12 8QT (that's Television Centre's postcode) open by renting it out to community television groups in London (and there must be fucking dozens of them) the bell-ends fucking sold the place and now it's no more! I hope this answers your question, Marcus.
was this filmed recently?
March 2013 just before Television Centre was vacated by the BBC.
Thank you :)
Green assembly? Blue assembly? What does that mean? Who was the pissed off director at 9:00 or so?
There were 3 assemblies Red Blue Green, named after the 3
primary colours used to make a TV colour image. They were places to chat and
have a cup of cold tea, my favourite was Green Assembly, the only thing close
to it nowadays at NBH are Safe Rooms, dotted around the building.
Hokey pokey, thanks. So sad that most of the studios have been wiped now - just like so much of the early BBC VT material and film output..... :(
VauxhallViva1975 Think its from the 1977 Eurovision Song contest.
3:59 here's a headlines. .....
Reminds me of a hospital
Well there were alot of mental patients in BBC Television Centre… 😂
@@CJFS00s I love socialism!
DON'T JUST LEAVE IT!
Grenfell Tower at 14.01 ?
No it's,BBC TVC
@@MikeyManchester from the roof of BBCTVC can see Grenfell.
Yeah sorry it is looked on google map both aren't far from each other
Sadly.
All this really good equipment simply got chucked out and scrapped.
I seriously doubt it.
Just watched some old episodes of Grange Hill - What brilliant years they were - Alas, Yet another programme the BBC has brought to self destruction with its own over indulgence with political correctness and for self propagating a sexless society. ie Top Gear - just had to go. Ever since Television Centre closed its doors, the new art form that we all became to love as British Television, which the BBC itself invented - came to its final demise. And the final nail in the coffin - making Doctor Who sexless - sorry, but there's no tv drama or entertainment without contrast, shame on you BBC. Goodbye Television Centre RIP
Just to say that only today I’ve edited one of a few pilot
shows for the BBC which is part of trying
out new content ideas to steer away from the usual programming.
Well put
Two old pensioners escape the care of the nursing home to have one last fumble through the BBC facilities.
Closer than you’ll ever get. 👍🏻
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It's a sin, to have raped the Commonwealth of BBC broadcasting heritage ; the consequence : lodging in tatty rented accommodation in Salford where television is produced in the corner of a corridor.
why are u spelling center, centre, stop spelling wrong words
In the U.K it's spelt "Centre"
"Center" is an American spelling
@@sarahemerson6567 i guess im stupid
You made yourself look a right tool. 😂😂😂
Too much stupid corridors with the aspect of any building! Show the studios!!!! My lord...
You spend two minutes in a corridor with smoke ashes and 10 seconds with the director of a studio or an anchor... Can't believe it man!!
the very heart of phedo at work and I have been paying my £££ tv licence for jimmy savile rolf harris dave lee travis and so many more to abuse the place glad it was taken down
It hasn't been taken down, just refurbished. And you seriously prioritise the sexual proclivities of a few former employees (most of whose offences were actually not committed on TVC's grounds, but at the BBC Television Theatre) over the many examples of British cultural heritage produced at TVC? So what if your TV licence paid the salaries of a few paedos? Paedophiles exist in all walks of life - you might even have a few of them work in the same building or the same company as you and you might not even know it. So what's so special about the BBC paying paedophiles? As I said, paedos exist in all walks of life so they should all be treated with the contempt they deserve *equally*. A paedphile is a paedophile, no matter who employs them.
And Dave Lee Travis was found not guilty of all but one charge, which was committed at Granada Television studios in Manchester. So his one crime wasn't even committed in the same studios, the same broadcaster, the same city or even the same part of the country as TVC!
And all three of those people you named also worked for commercial TV and radio. You know, those companies that get money from advertising companies who include the cost of advertising in the products or services you buy (which you can't avoid paying). How do you feel about that?
I'm all in favour of sticking lit blowtorches on blue flames in the faces of paedophiles as the next man or woman but you need to Get Your Facts Right. Otherwise people will just see your comment as the ill-informed drivel that it is.
I worked at TVC for over 20 years and saw nothing of the "rampant abuse", or heard nothing. I have nothing but fantastic memories of the place, from my first visit for my interview, through working in the basement in VT on 1' and 2" machines, then on to moving to the new Stage 5, on cassette based machines, D3, Digi Beta etc. Then the bean counters started getting involved and the whole thing turned to shit. The BBC has been destroyed by the internal market and through being forced to outsource lots of its work when it had its own perfect environment for making awesome TV programmes. Selling TVC was at best an act of utter stupidity, and at worse a deliberate move to weaken the BBC. It is like moving parliament to a shed in Milton Keynes and turning Westminster into posh flats no-one can afford. It should be a crime !