Power Girl Returns & It's Strange...Yes She Was Gone
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- Power Girl has returned from years of not really being used much at DC Comics. However for some her return to the spotlight through Dark Crisis, Lazarus Planet, and Action comics backup left them perplexed. Why? There was a period where Power Girl had been erased from the timeline, lost to the void. Just how did she get back? Exactly which version of Power Girl was this? Pre Crisis? New 52? Does it matter? We discuss here on Casually Comics!
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Do you have a favourite version of Power Girl?
This doesn't count, but I thought it was hilarious on DC Super Hero Girls that Supergirl just adopted "Power Girl" as a alternate identity and cribbed the Earth-2 origin on the fly.
The Pre and Post Infinite Crisis PG from the art of Amanda Conner and Jimmy Palmioti, close to the first Justice League International and her cameo on the sequel book.
But it's hard, she has strangely a very big lore (not pun intended) for a more niche popular character I guess.
I liked all versions of Power Girl until New 52. Some of her(seeming out of continuity) appearances just ignored the New 52 version since(Harely Quinn & Powergirl etc) then that have been pretty good.
Technically not Power Girl , definitely not a hero , but the DCAU ‘s JLU Supergirl aged up clone Galatea was a cool adaptation 🖖🏾
Yes definitely the original version which seems to be back the only one I disliked was the new 52 version
Power Girl, Black Canary, Hawkman and Donna Troy should form a club of superheroes with complicated histories
Eh BC is only somewhat convoluted but easy enough to follow. She also doesn't have that many different origins
Where as the other three change almost every time we have a continuity shift or a reboot
Throw old Wally West in there with them lol
@@CoconutRouter eh again he doesn't have a convoluted backstory just a bunch of bad stories in recent years
Black Canary’s history has been complicated since her mom, the Golden Age Black Canary, has been active as a superhero since 1947 and that we don’t know how she looked youthful in the main DCU when her mom is almost a century old in 2023.
If the first Crisis resulted in all of the heroes saving the pre-Crisis multiverse instead of having one universe, then Hawkman, Black Canary, Donna Troy, and Power Girl would have their pre-Crisis histories intact.
If nothing else I think we can safely assume that this particular version of Power Girl is without a doubt a version of Power Girl.
Unless it turns out she's actually an impostor!
@@mattthecatania Which is unfortunately possible.
Of all the versions of Power Girl, this is surely one of them.
As confusing as her continuity is now, you know there are going to be many more revisions and reboots in the future. I am looking forward to watching Sasha's next Power Girl retrospective in 2028, explaining all the bizarre changes to come.
Time of recording, time of recording, time of recording, time of recording...
I'm just glad she's back.
Power Girl is a severely under appreciate character
She really isn't but okay
@@kingofdragons7 she kinda is tho
@@kingofdragons7 I mean, sure, everyone likes her, but DC doesn’t really do anything worthwhile with her, so I would say she’s under appreciated by DC.
Depends on which Power Girl we're getting. I know there's a storyline reason for tweaking her powers a bit, but will that even stick?
*Power Girl pets Beast Boy*
Karen: Oh Garfield, you sweet little veal cutlet you lol
This is the reason why I think the distinction of Earth 1 and Earth 2 should come back again in the comics, it really is not that complicated to say that yes, there are multiple universes, but those two earths are the most important ones and Power Girl comes from Earth 2, she's just an alternate grown up version of Supergirl. That's it, I really feel it's not that complicated, but DC keeps trying to merge all earths into a single universe and that ultimately makes retcons and backstories even more confusing
Wanna know how to fix that for good? By removing Power Girl all together.
@@potato_oni7597 how would that fix things? That'll just cause more confusion when they inevitably bring her back due to backlash and even when she's gone there will have to be this whole explanation of another supergirl that got deleted.
I feel like they've shot themselves in the foot there. At this point just have both power girls meet and decide they need more different costumes and move on. Then use either as often as they want.
I do think overall the multiple earth's idea was always good for telling stories you didn't necessarily want happening on the main earth.
Power Girl is going to be forever trapped in the tension of "she's a totally unique character" or "she's a leftover burp from another universe."
It could be worse. She could have just been killed by shadow demons like her buddy, Helena Wayne.
Now I'm remembering how Marvel eventually resolved "Is the Vision actually the original Human Torch?"
Answer: yes and no. Turns out Immortus split the timeline so one Human Torch stayed himself and the other was rebuilt into the Vision.
Maybe they do that with Power Girl. Some weird split in the timeline turned Supergirl into two people.
Honestly, at some point, we are going to see "crisis of infinite power girls." or something like that. since DC is addicted to crises.
@Will N Well, it's "a" Helena. She's not classic Power Girl's original Helena.
I guess this raises questions about which Power Girl was in JSA #1's 2040s team, because she didn't exactly look at Helena and say "Wow, you're an alt-universe younger version of my dead best friend."
Power Burp
@Will N Umm, no. Shes definitely not "the" Helena Wayne, shes a Helena Wayne. The story makes prety clear shes mean to be the future daugther of the current continuity Batman and Catwoman, not their pre-crisis Earth-2 daughter. In contrast to Power Girl, who was make quite clear (eventually) that she was the exact same person from Earth-2, but the crisis alteres her past. "Altered" being the key word. Her past changed but she wasnt reborn into a diferent world, she was simply given a diferent story. Meanwhile Helena was reborn into a diferent world and story, with big diference like her dad still being Batman until his death in her future while in Earht-2 he have long retired. Not sure where you got this idea Helena getting a temporal shift from the past to the future. Its an interesting concept but i never saw anything to sugest it. Then again, i only partially read Doomsday Clock cause i wasnt on board with its concept, so i may have missed something.
Also, your idea for what-could-have-been an actual post-Crisis Power Girl is simple and funtional, probably the reason why nothing remotely similar ocurred to anyone working at DC. it seems that at the time long term solutions that werent ridiculously overly complicated werent allowed. That said, possibly the onlty redeemable aspect of the failed post-crisis origin is that they attempted to keep the basic concept (infant survivor of a long-lost civilisation grows into adulthood without ever leaving the vesel that saved her) if nothing else, which is whats missing in your idea. Another similar sugetions i have seem, which could mixed up with yours, is they could have made Power Girl a daxamite. Witch such simple solutions at hand, it sure seems like the writers werent thinking things though back then. The only other problem in this imaginary story is that DC inevitably would have made another Supergirl to keep the name, but they could also easily close the circle with Power Girl taking Supergirl identity along with her memories.
I feel like this is one of those stories to add to Power Girls Legacy that in the future we will look back on fondly; "hey remember that one time Power girl punched peoples mental problems out of them with physical therapy? wasn't that wacky?"
She put “physical therapy” to a whole new level!
“Commissioner Gordon Bunny McBatman” is the best description I have ever heard for that strange era of Batman 🤣
I'm definitely in the "just happy to see her back" with Power Girl. I feel most are gonna pull from the more popular pre-N52 version with the void maybe getting wrapped up or referenced as an Easter egg.
As for the direction the fish-out-of-water approach without knowing idioms feels unnecessary.
While I am glad she's back in a general sense. I never truly realized how convoluted the continuity got when it came to the different versions and which one was which. Hearing it explained so thoroughly made me feel like I was in the exploding head scene from Scanners lol.
"For a while, things were stable"
DC editorial: Allow us to introduce ourselves
at first I was a bit confused by Power Girl becoming psychic but once I starting thinking about it it makes sense, it helps distinguish her from Supergirl and leans into the mystic aspects of past retcons
Flamebird Girl!
@@Psychospacecow Karen was Nightwing, though. Kara was Flamebird.
It would be funny if it was three Powergirls the whole time overlapped into one person, being lead by another's thoughts like every run of comics. Later splitting to new bodies for all the confusion and chaos, to run in our minds.
Soon: "Three Power Girls, the new series from Geoff Johns..."
@@benevolentremnant2949 2 and a half Girl
Just straight up Raven Mood Clones in different colors
@@Psychospacecow without matching outfits, and a different past. Each having played out their own character at times, now free to their will.
If they don't reveal Tanya is stuck in Power Girl's mind and possibly that is why she doesn't remember that as a result and maybe even the real source of the new powers (allowing Tanya to return and have a role distinct from her) I will be disappointed. It seems a natural progression to a story about a character going into people's minds to deal with stuff in there. Have that person have something in their head that someone needs to go in to deal with.
Convergence was silly but under rated... I loved it.
I am down for any and all Power Girls and if she leans pre-crisis I'm giddy.
Lol I really enjoyed Convergence
I fell so hard for the fanservice. Seeing Wally with his kids again, Bruce meet a version of Thomas Wayne, and swamp thing and Alec gave me life.
i would try to tell people (possibly) to go read it
Off topic but that is by far my favorite wig you have ever worn. Oh and good Power Girl is back.
And how appropriate is the dress? Great touch and commitment to the topic
Yeah Deathstroke annual from rebirth left me with so many questions, because I remember seeing power girl during Green lanterns as a background character helping other super heroes. I still wanted to know what happened after that annual.
"Maybe she'd rather be in the void"
Yeah...that is likely how awkward and traumatizing things went in that issue but everyone including Slade was feeling remorse thinking she truly did check herself out. It looked like Tanya came back in Future State Shazam as a member of the Justice Leaguge with a new hairstyle and name Powerhouse but yes it is Future State. There was also a Dark Crisis 7 variant that showed her and other heroes (including Billy Batson who should have been imprisoned in the Rock of Eternity at thr time iirc) fighting Pariah but she did not appear at all in said issue but it seemed couple Dark Crisis variants were misleading. Not to mention whether or not if Tanya came back in time for Shadow War were everyone who stood too close to Slade Wilson was going to be killed because Talia believed he killed her father. Maybe she did have a comeback planned at some point but like so much else at DC ditched or pushed back.
Maybe the "not understanding basic phrases" thing is foreshadowing that she'd not actually Power Girl at all, but some kind of impostor infiltrating her life.
Yeah, idk why Power Girl is acting a bit weird in the newer stuff, but I’m just glad she’s back on the mainline comics. I hope they have her meet Harley again. That dynamic was fun.
It's like they wanted to make her into a pseudo Starfire.
Probably bad writing lol!!!
I mean, I'd be pretty raddled too after all the stuff she's gone through
If that's the only way we get more Power Girl, I guess... but I'm really getting sick of Harley, and I used to really like her. She's like the Batman Who Laughs, overexposed, overused.
I am probably the only one who was more excited to see Lilith than Power Girl. Now SHE has a weird and wacky history, the first Teen Titan with her own solo series in the back of the book! Plus, she was a go-go dancer, and had a van and a motorcycle, and an air of mystery. Until someone decided she was Mr. Jupiter's daughter, and had to be a Raven-lite named "Omen", FFS. Anyway, if she was going to mind-link with a super female with a complicated history and have psychotherapy adventures, why did they NOT use Donna Troy, who she actually KNEW, rather than PG, with whom she never had any connection? And why do Dick and Gar not act friendly toward Lil? Aaargghh! Anyway, good video!
The timing on this video is relevant for me, I'm about halfway through the 2009-2011 Power Girl run and this video provided a nice roadmap for what to read next
Almost same but on the opposite end. This week i read the Deathstroke annual. I really liked Tanya and was sad that she committed suicide (cause that's why Wallace unplugged her. Everybody thought she used the machine to bypass her own invulnerability in order to kill herself because of how much the Wilson's were putting her thru. Then Slade spends a few issues lowkey brooding about how this sweet Christian hero who nursed him back to life because it was the right thing to do killed herself because she was caught between him and his ex wife)
So when the annual ended and Tanya wasn't dead I was excited to either have the story pick up in that run or see what happens next for Tanya..... now i know the answer is nothing haha
If we assume that this is the Power Girl trapped between worlds and that she escaped/was rescued at some point, that can mean that Tonya can be back as well.
If I’m not mistaken Tanya is back, the last time I saw her was back in Titans academy Future state, in the sot of “bad end “ possible future, which seeing as most of those bad end futures have sort have been averted, POSSIBLY, she should still be out there especially if Karen power girl was scraped out of that vortex for Infinite Frontier.
As usual Sasha, Great Job, This whole Power Girl Origin story reminds me to say Oh how I wish the Tuning Forks would have worked and stopped the Earths mergers in COIE.
Crisis on infinite earths is simultaneously one of the greatest stories ever written and one of the biggest mistakes ever made
You need to do a follow up around Geoff Johns'JSA series having her around in the 1970s and 30 years into the future!
Loved her and Huntress in Worlds' Finest. It was a wonderfully upbeat change to the dour and unnecessarily edgy New 52.
I loved the Conner/Palmiotti pre Nu 52 PG series. I would love to see them return to her.
DC is definitely playing fast and loose with their continuity. In Dark Crisis young justice, they make a reference to Cassie being Zeus's daughter again, even though since New 52 she has been his granddaughter. Also the made a reference to Diana being a "Child of Clay" in the Lazarus Island : Once We Were God's one-shot.
DC:YJ was...um...light on continuity, even by current-year standards. (They had Empress appear in a panel that was supposed to be all villains!)
Good. I don't acknowledge the Azz or E1 origin tales as they are nowhere near as epic
I don't know what version of Tanya Spears I read in Future State Shazam#1 2021, but she made an appearance with the code name Power House in that series.
Yes I want to see Tanya again. I did like her. When she showed up in the future state Shazam book I thought it was their way of hinting that she was coming back. But she hasn't yet. I'm guessing we're going to get a better idea of which Karen this is in the Justice Society book.
I'm excited with the Legacy and character-centric focus DC is taking, but I wish they had more of a standardized idea of characterization and character backstory. But that's comics for you :P I'm still excited to see where this character goes and I'll check it out!
I think "Therapist Powergirl" is a Transparent Attempt to Get Her Out of Supergirl's Shadow Where She has Languished as a "Legacy's Legacy" since 1976 :) Given that she is usually depicted as having impulse control issues...not sure how long this'll last. But since Action Comics is pretty readable these days, I will see where it leads :)
So pleased power girl is back I always preferred power girl to supergirl she seemed angry but a fair superhero from 2010 to 2018 I thought different versions of power girl lost their way she was written and did not seem the proper character but it seems the original has returned now. I did like her part in one star squadron with red tornado though. I think between her hawkman and Donna troy these three have the most origins and changes over years would the real hero stand up please
i think the current status was definitively answered in the Infinite Frontier series - Psycho Pirate kidnapped a bunch of people, including her, who were JUST restored into existence following Death Metal re-continuiting everything. She also then references their history together that same issue, so it's pretty clear she is the pre-crisis Kara who stopped existing and then started existing again like everyone else who Psycho kidnapped for Darkseid.
I think it's cool she's back. Who knows we might eventually get a new variation of Val-Zod and the two could eventually pair up.
DC writer:"Which continuity are we working with here?"
Editor:"Yes".
Never mind Kara, this whole Lazarus volcano and it randomly affecting everyone differently - when we've never seen Lazarus do that previously (to my knowledge anyways - is confusing me beyond belief. 🙃🙃
That's why I initially told myself I was skipping Lazarus Planet. But I did pick up Lazarus Planet: Alpha, and it was nice to see PG get some good moments in that
Literally this week i was reading Deathstroke and saw Power Girl in between dimensions and Tanya got stuck with her.
So yes, I was just wondering what happened to them. Thank you for the perfectly timed video
Personally, my Power Girl is everything Pre-New 52, with the exception of Convergence since that uses a Pre-Crisis version of the character.
Power Girl is my all time favorite DC character. Amanda and Jimmy’s run with her was just amazing. Since we saw psycho pirate, I’m of the belief this is pre-crisis Karen. But whichever she is, I’m just happy to see her again.
Your wardrobe choice is spot on for power girl! 🤣
The Cell!
I think you inspired me to dig out this DVD and rewatch this film. The visuals in that film are amazing. And when JLo is in the dreamscape and turns around and sees dreamscape-d'Onofrio roar at her - that is some scary stuff!
Just rewatched The Cell. Still great. There's a little bit of 2000-era wonky CGI, but it's mostly practical effects, wild costumes, and impressive sets. I lost count of how many different ways d'Onofrio appeared in the film. And I love how there are 2 parallel climaxes in the film, and you're likely more invested in the one that has no real world stakes and is just about saving the mental persona of a child.
"Also what happened to Tanya? Time will tell."
Or it won't, and she'll be forgotten forever, lost in the void with Power Girl. Heck, maybe she's just stuck in the void alone, now, if that was the original PG and Manhattan freed her when fixing everything.
Man I miss pre flashpoint dcu so much everything now is so confusing it drives my anxiety up the wall
In the New Golden Age: JSA,an one shot and the main series, there is the Pre-Crisis Power-Girl who has anger issue; unfortunately she was killed by time manipulating villain by the first issue
That wasn't the power girl that was the super girl from the earth 1
Pre-Flashpoint, chairwoman of the JSA, ex-member of Infinity Inc, crush on Hawkman, Powergirl. That's MY Power Girl.
Thanks for spotlighting the confusing history of my favorite character.
I'm just glad she's back, but it would be nice to have some things clarified
Sasha: _"Power Girl, she has a more convoluted story than most"_
Donna Troy: *"Allow me to introduce myself"*
(pushes up glasses) ACKtually, the main DC earth is Earth 0 and has been since before the New 52 (some earths got renumbered, but this wasn't one of them). Earth 1 is where the "Earth One" graphic novels take place.
Last time I saw Powergirl was in the Earth 2 Society run, but idk if that’s this Powergirl. Because she says her home no longer exists, but we see Val Zod at the tail end of action comics 1050 (I believe). All that to say, it’s me, I’m one of the people who NEEDS to know which PG this is 😅
Sasha, you may be the Emerald Power Girl, but you make an excellent Tatsumaki! ❤ Excellent coverage on my favorite Kryptonian from a fave Comic-Tuber!
Oh hey, you DO reference the Deathstroke Annual! Hardcore story. I fell in love with Tanya in that run. I asked Priest what was up with that ending, and he said DC wouldn't let him do his six issue miniseries about the two Power Girls that he wanted to do to bring them both back.
I remember enjoying The Cell a lot when I watched it long ago, like Silence of the Lambs creepy but with spectacular visuals.
1. In my experience, anyone who says "Let's do this. Yeah, why not!" never actually asks themselves why not.
2. Like DC continuity reboots every five years. Can you imagine if the Simpsons or SVU or some other long running tv show rebooted itself every five years with different characters and origins and story-lines?
3. Loving that hair, Sasha, tho now I'm worried you'll be as clumsy as Hal. But I LOVE it anyway!
This wig is giving Tornado from One Punch Man and I love it 😍
Your explanations of all the changing status quos made me think of Horrible Histories "but not for long!"
I remember picking up that All-Star Comics Power Girl first appeared in off the stands. I never could've foreseen that the character would become this convoluted...
As another note: Anyone else think Sasha's look in this video would work well for Polaris? Just a thought...
I thought Madam Hydra or Viper
@@TitularHeroine Yes! Those would work better!
I confessed Jim Lee signed my X-men comic and I address that DC no more crisis. He listen to my idea of injustice (I said kill Lois) and said no for more Crisis. Still my favorite Geek moment.
"Which continuity is this? And the answer is "yes." haha That should be DCs new marketing slogan. "DC Comics...yes." lol
I think this is Pre Crisis Earth 2 Power Girl she did have some touble earth social skills her earlier apperences, plus with all trauma she been thougth it would not be a surprise if she forgot how to interact with people.
OMG. That was glorious. Hearing you rapid-fire trace timelines and universes reminded me of the '80s era "cosmic events" which was my comic collecting heydays.
0:43 DC continuity is a pit of scorpions best left to its own devices
Power Girl is my Favorite DC Comics character. I bought some All-Star Comics in the late 70's and that was my introduction. I've read most of the Power Girl comics since then with the exception of "One-Star Squadron" and "Dark Crisis". For awhile I wondered how Power Girl got out of the void, as she kept being drawn in the background art of different comic series. They delayed ending of "Doomsday Clock" finally gave us Power Girl back. I'm hoping that the "Lazarus Planet" and "Action Comics" stories don't ruin Power Girl. I'm reading the "Justice Society of America" 12 issue series to see how much of the JSA timeline will be changed by Per Degaton. We've seen one future version of Power Girl there and hopefully her fate can be changed.
Lilith AND Powergirl? IN ONE COMIC?! This is gonna be a good year.
I'm really glad that Power Girl is back. I hope she never leaves again.
Left floating like Donna Troy’s origin to date- saved orphan by Diana, raised by the Titans of Myth, mirror image of Diana come to life of her own, or a young woman emerged from spell of clay from Hippolyta merged with sacrificed baby who somehow also was a teen in a forgotten Teen Titans history. I want to know the true origin of both Donna and Karen of today.
I prefer Donna and Karen’s true origins to be their pre-Crisis origins (i.e. Donna was an orphan saved by Diana and was brought to Paradise Island, and Karen arriving to pre-Crisis Earth-Two decades after her Krypton’s destruction) because Donna being part of the Wonder Woman family and Karen wanting to find her place in the world.
I really despise how DC is treating it's characters or continuity but I love Powergirl, her 2 big reasons, her arc on Infinite Crisis wich is an awesome and sad good bye to the Golden Age Superman, and the idea of how every single time she as a fictional character can divide writers and readers, they don't make characters like her anymore ( I know they do, but she is a character from a time this was controversial only for how she looks and everyone had their 2 cents on the moral police, you can pick the Powergirl of any time and see how the controversy of the boob window always developed, I simply love it). Thanks for the video!
Maybe you should do the what New 52, Rebirth and Convergence did right and/or wrong. A video for each one.
Well, we saw Tanya Spears in a division of JL in Future State: Shazam! No explanation how she got back tho.
Power Girl looks like she would be DC´s response to She-Hulk from the 90s: Eye Candy, action and comedy. However I don´t know if that truly applies as older comics are not available anymore.
Tragic 40% of her bust remains trapped in the space between worlds.
So sad.
I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE SHE FITS INTO THE DCU!!!!
I mean, Kara Zor-El is there and is Supergirl.
So who is Power Girl??? And they seem to be trying to restore the mystical aspects (re: Arion) but not.
And her new uniform has the SuperFamily logo - but it's clear you don't have to actually be an El for that.
Worse, from what I can tell, the new Earth 2 ALSO has its own Power Girl.
AUGHHH.
Pre-Crisis would be the easiest best choice. New 52 would would just be that Earth 2 version of Kara...or stick with for a moment...we could make a new NEW version of the character!
This was an excellent analysis. Thanks for that! Power Girl is a good character and I'd like to see more of her in the DC Universe. It doesn't matter what the medium is.
I don't actively follow *any* of this but I just like to hear you talk about comics. Ha! Good stuff. :)
She has lots of origins
Even one of them is exactly like "Future Trunks'"
YES I want to see Tanya. I felt interested in her once she was introduced, she gave me young MR. Terrific vibes, and was hilarious because she was sort of a genius but was an odd duck with Wallace on Defiance, side note I sorta wanted to see her reaction to Wallace being with Emiko ( Hopefully no Catfight but a talk would be nice to see, even if VERY awkward).😂😅😊
The wig outfit combo gives me more Madam Hydra vibes more than Power Girl. I like it though. Great video.
Could the real Power Girl please stand up?
Looking back at "DC You" those were some good stories that I end up enjoying. We are Robins, "Bat Chappie", Powergirl and Harley Quinn
I mean, the Justice Society book shows her being active in the 70s
Pretty weird that post-Crisis Power Girl couldn't be an alternate universe version of Supergirl, but 2 years later they introduced a Pocket Universe version of Supergirl. We got an amazing story out of it (with Pocket Bruce, Ollie & Hal dying on one page), but still...
New 52 power girl and New 52 superboy just being stuck in limbo forever just hurts
Power Girl, Raven, Donna Troy, Starfire are extremely unique, awesome, and strong characters but for some reason we have 10 different Batman titles :c ALSO I really LOVE this video lol I have always LOVED this character and can't stand DC for not knowing what they got.
This is the first video I've seen from you and I'm impressed!!
Love your knowledge and fast pace.
I would love to know what version this is. I like my continuity "tidy". Why I collect DC, who knows?
They could simplify everything by telling us what version this is. Rebirth was supposed to do that. Fail. Infinite Frontier? Fail. Dark Crisis....oy, just keep moving.
Yay! Thank you for this! Love powergirl!
I like the green hair, you should do a Green Lantern video since you're already color coordinated for it...
This video is a perfect introduction into why I can't get people to read DC Comics.
Also wow. I didn't realize how long ago the new 52 was. It's been 10 years. I am the old. I also love how I was just never aware of DC You. I read into the new 52, convergence, doomsday clock, and rebirth (all to varying amounts), but didn't even know DC You existed.
Wow, that's a lot, lol! I like Power Girl and want her active in comics again, so I guess we'll see how it gets handled.
Also, I love your look in this video. Like Viper meets the Baroness. 😎🔥👍
I wanna see Tanya, and hope that it's Pre-Crisis E-2 Kara...
1 - If Psycho-Pirate did that mind-continuity trip to Donna Troy, he is the one who would break.
2 - Thank God when she was 'Atlantean' they never had her in a romance with Clark. The end of Peter David's run aside, that is an outcome we never need, even at a remove. "We were cousins, but that was removed - no, not like second cousins." I get enough grief defending Elfen Lied.
3 - I'm not certain, but I think Karen Starr is the very first Crisis refugee, even before the Hawkman debacle. She is the very first example of "Let's find something for them to do, even though they shouldn't really exist anymore." Those set-asides have always been a headache.
4 - Someday, when Donna Troy is a settled-history, well-origined character, DC will still be messing up Power Girl. Someone somewhere always seems to have a new idea that blows everything else out of the water.
Waking up in the middle of the night screaming "what about Tanya?????"
Oh man, why haven't DC done a Donna Troy; Power Girl cross over mini series?
“Well, what about the Baeblefish? It’s a dead giveaway!”
And God said, “I hadn’t really thought of that.”, and promptly disappeared in a puff of non~existence.
Sure, I’m being snarky today, but my overall point to this, is that there was no point to this! But I’m glad for Sasha’s overview . THAT was some next level homework! It made ALL the sense!
I was very happy about the 3 second One Star Squadron mention. In my Head that series matters the MOST and ties EVERYTHING together because it gives a cohesive timeline for which heroes were active during which times. Continuity Reboots beware!!!!!
Never read the main convergence storyline, but lots of fun was going on in the side stories. Same with Secret Wars on the Marvel side. Just took the opportunity to enjoy some alternate timeline stories and ignore any connection to a central story
It is amusing DC started their massive crossover events with the hope of simplifying their universe and to resolve the problems created by that and subsequent course corrections have now ended up creating a multiverse even more confused than the one they set out to clean up in 85.
12:52 - 13:05
I saw that Theater Movie.
You are talking so fast that I didn't initially catch the name of that Theater Movie.
I wouldn't have remembered it, however.