@@scoon2117 Joker is a product of today's mainstream cinema, desperately trying to appear to be more than generic entertainment by embodying better films of the past. The trend of disguised remakes.
@JunkyardHounds yeah it almost felt like a weird cleaned up AI remake of taxi driver. I hate that everything is so derivative or has to comply with style of the time. Same reason I don't like a lot of a24 movies
You missed the famous "King of Comedy" blooper. De Niro was sitting in a building plaza shooting a scene for the film -- dressed as Pupkin -- and a woman come up to him and asked when would he be in a new movie. De Niro told her he was doing a new film right now and pointed to the camera crew off in the distance.
"Blooper" Bullshit. Are you aware how long Scorsese and Schoonmaker talk to edit this film? As if they would miss something so obvious. Do you people have any idea how films are made?
@@vittoriostoraro It wasn't in the final film. It was a "flubbed" take and went to the cutting room floor. Only airing on "Bloopers and Practical Jokes" hosted by Dick Clark and Ed McMahon on NBC-TV in the '80s. Do you know how films are made?
Outstanding documentary. The King of Comedy is one of the best black comedies of all time and this was a very interesting watch. So well-researched and produced. Amazing work.
One of my favourite movies. Blurring the lines between suspense, comedy and the absurd. The tension and cringe factor are almost intolerable while being strangely funny and thoroughly entertaining. Every character has their own unique perspective which is fascinating to watch. The great acting creates layers of clashing realities. By the end I can never figure out whether Pupkin is a hero or a villain. He's a very clever sociopath if nothing else,
One really great story no one knows about and has never been told until now is during the casting of the film, Martin Scorcese and Robert DeNiro were looking for an actress to play MASHA (later made famous by Sandra Bernhard). Scorcese's casting director reached out to famed comedy writer Gail Parent (Carol Burnett Show, The Main Event, Mary Hartman Mary Hartman, Rhoda, Mary Tyler Moore and author of book Sheila Levine is Dead and Living in New York among many other books, films and TV shows) and set up an audition. Martin and Robert met with Gail who was (and still is) an incredible, hilarious writer to see how she would fair as an actress. Martin, Robert and Gail met in a suite at Chateau Marmont in Los Angeles and Gail had a lengthy audition with Robert for over an hour. Gail said Martin was looking for an unknown to play Masha. It was a great audition and even though Gail ended up not getting the part, one very special thing happened during the audition. While they rehearsed, they went over the scene where Masha seduces a tied up Jerry Langford (played by Jerry Lewis in the film). In the scene, Masha sings the song, Come Rain or Come Shine. The opening lyrics are, "I'm gonna love you like nobody's loved you, come Rain or come shine." Gail, in her usual stroke of genius, changed the lyrics during her audition to "YOU'RE gonna love ME like nobody's loved ME, come rain or come shine." It immediately lifted the scene and made the moment much better. So much so, that Martin and Robert changed the lyrics in the script to Gail's improvisationed words. Even though Gail didn't get the part, she made a lasting impression during the audition and still remembers her time with Martin and Robert fondly. I know because she told me the story while reminiscing about her career while in talks about her possible Memoir.
King of Comedy is an excellent movie. It's in my top category along with another little-heralded film, The Contender, with Jeff Bridges playing the president.
I saw this king of comedy for the first time last night. 1, how is Todd Phillips not being sued for plagarism? 2. It’s interesting that Jerry Lewis and his assistant genuinely gave Ruppert multiple chances and good advice, he just refused to follow them. 3. It was nice to see a somewhat cheery ending, unlike the joker
You know the fact that Joker basically took the king of Comedy and reworked it to the point of having Robert Deniro there in the Jerry Lewis part should have been obvious by movie critics. But then again, it was done so well that it could be regarded as a Tarantino interpretation of the original material.
The proper way to describe it is that his mom yells at HIM, and then he yells back to get her off his case. To just say, "He constantly yells at his mom," conveys a false impression.
@@TheTapesArchive I agree. Your writing is weak. But you can improve. I think one way to improve that over the long term is to just read a lot of good writing - journalism specifically. Eventually your brain will absorb what quality prose is like and you will be more likely to produce it. Short term, make sure you edit your first draft and improve it, then edit again. And again.
This was awesome. I did my dissertation, as part of my American Studies degree in what would eventually become Hope University, Liverpool, but which at the time was merely a patch of vomit in a marsh somewhere, on Scorsese's Misfits, re: Taxi Driver, Raging Bull and King of Comedy. And this was back in '91. And now look at me.
One of Roberts best roles IMO. It was so different and a underrated Scorsese film. Jerry also knocked it out the park. From everything i've heard he didn't have to stretch much from himself. And seems Todd Philips used this combined this film and Taxi Driver for Joker.
It's crazy how small of a world it is some times. We grew up in completely different cultures yet we love many of the same things. Your comment made my day. Thanks! 🍻
@@TheTapesArchive Thing is, Alan, you're doing a GREAT job. Plus, it's about what I like: Sabbath, Vai, Edward, DLR, KOC.. I saved pretty much every video off your channel, just in case. Your videos make my days. 😉
Well done. Really enjoyed this documentary, which covered many bases One of the most underrated movies imo. And perhaps the best performance by De Niro to date
I really should check this out. I criticize DeNiro a lot for essentially playing the same character over and over again since the 70's but sometimes forget. What an amazing performance he can give from time to time, like Raging Bull or the Cape Fear remake.
Thank you for mentioning "A Face in the Crowd," which doesn't get enough attention. Like Kind of Comedy, it stars a comedic actor in an incredibly serious role in Andy Griffith. He is directed by Elia Kazan in this movie though, one of the greatest actor directors of all time. (On the Waterfront, Streetcar, East of Eden, many more.)
De Niro's performances in almost all his film have been some of my all time favourites. However, I sometimes wonder how much of the real De Niro is present in them. He seems very apt at playing characters which could be described as not very likeable, with many seeming psychotic and violent. Of course, these are roles written by others, but that he chose or was chosen for. Yet, you can see many parallels between the performances and that leads me to think part of that is his real personality, revelling in the sort of character that he, consciously or subconsciously, identifies with.
A great insight into one of Scorsese's most underrated films, honestly it's probably in my top 3 Scorsese movies, I like it more than Raging Bull. Please make more of these documentaries, they're great.
This film was ahead of its time. Another film from the ‘70’s that forecast reality TV was Network. If you haven’t seen it, check it out. It’s spooky how much it predicted the direction tv would eventually go to.
I love the Tarantino's videos that you did because bring the book to life but i understand that could bring some legal issues to the channel so this new content is fantastic as well😂🎉❤
Thanks for commenting. I was wondering what fans of the Tarantino videos would think of my own work. I'd like to make more of the QT videos but it got old reading all the "you suck" comments for using a AI voice. lol..And the fact that I was using his words which could lead to legal issues. But I still might make another one. Not sure.
It's more poignant than ever now that everyone with a phone is obsessed with being seen. Every tweeter with 100 followers can't understand why they ain't a Kardashian.
"Play Misty For Me" is better than that, junior. And of course Walters' performance is going to stand out more, look what she was playing. Eastwood's character was a laid back, reserved bachelor, not some smarmy egotist. He did it fine. And it was made over a decade before The King of Comedy, thought that is a very fine movie, imo.
Would you like more videos like this one? Thoughts, critiques? Go back to Tarantino videos? If anyone is wondering, zero AI used in this video. 🍻 00:00 - Start 00:58 - The screenplay is written 01:53 - De Niro buys the screenplay 02:36 - De Niro sells The King of Comedy to Marty 02:58 - Real-life horrific events 04:35 - Looming directors strike 05:10 - How Rupert Pupkin is like other Scorsese characters 07:10 - Raging Bull 07:50 - The Aviator 08:20 - The Last Temptation of Christ 09:22 - De Niro transforms into Rupert Pupkin 09:56 - Fat Vinny 11:14 - Casting Jerry Lewis as Jerry Langford 11:41 - Drunken mess 12:01 - De Niro didn’t want Lewis at first 12:45 - De Niro pushes Lewis’ buttons 13:33 - The supporting cast 14:24 - Cameos 14:50 - The Clash 15:20 - De Niro’s really good buddy 16:46 - The look of The King of Comedy 17:19 - Other movies similar to The King of Comedy 17:29 - Sunset Boulevard 18:56 - Play Misty for me 21:04 - The Fan 22:16 - Reception for The King of Comedy 22:58 - The influence of The King of Comedy 23:29 - The Comedian 23:52 - Joker 24:52 - Paul Zimmerman post premier 26:46 - The King of Comedy of trivia
I remember seeing her when I saw this movie first as a teenager. But yes,it took me forvever to point out that if you pause on the flash photography in the opening scenes you can clearly see her. As an extra. To me,at the time she was that awesome ocean rigger from The Abyss and Tony Montana's sister.
I saw this movie when it first came out because I loved Jerry Lewis, and wanted to see him in a dramatic role. I tell it like it is: Martin Scorcese makes me nauseous. I've never seen any other film he directed. Violence is not cool in the movies, Marty Big Shot. Violence generates violence. Can you say "Reagan Assasination Attempt" ???
I'm probably not the first to point this out, but that's Mick Jones in the two-shot with the manager (appearing for the second time), not Paul Simonon, who does not appear.
@@TheTapesArchive It actually betrays empathy on your part: it was literally your interpretation compensating for Scorsese's glaring continuity error. 😉
Some help on this one, please: at the 26:32-minute mark, is that not Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio standing next to De Niro? Never mind. It IS her, she's a credited extra on this movie. Weird.
Day of the Locust is a difficult watch, but it's also a great, raw look into the early days of Hollywood. You can't go wrong when you have Jackie Earle Haley as wannabe child star "Adore," Burgess Meredith smiling/laughing/wheezing/on-the-verge-of-death in every scene, and of course the dreadfully maladroit Homer Simpson played by Donald Sutherland. Highly recommended!
Nice going, smart! Thanks. Thurber’s “Walter Mitty” among first of deluded character stories. They made two bad movies of that. Far cry from brilliant King of Comedy.
Not that it would make sense, but I would have enjoyed Rupert delivering a devastating monologue on the Langford show. Not necessarily funny, but unexpectedly arresting.
I think you compared Rupert to Travis too quickly. Sure Rupert was isolated but his character was very joyful because in his delusions he believed he was going to have his own show and his routine was funny. Travis methodically wrote down his thoughts and tracked his isolation throughout the whole movie and was succumbing to dark thoughts. Two very different characters that’s a bit glazed over here but otherwise a good and interesting video
One mystery is why this film was not recognised for the great movie it was/is back in 1983? I have a theory about a society so in love with celebrity that they simply could not see the truth of this movie. Am I wrong?
Why do you keep cutting to a clip of Paul Schaefer in "Spinal Tap" every time you say the name Dick Bruno? Is that a joke or do you really not know it's Paul?
Seriously, was this video script generated by AI? It mentioned the fact that the movie was about isolation and loneliness about 38 times. The movie was actually quite hilarious, and sad, but watching this video you would think it’s the sequel to taxi driver.
i saw the film in Collège as it came out , saw it in NYC , at that time i liked the film alot BUT coudlnt by into the ending - where after a few years in jail, Rupert comes out and gets his own show. I coudlnt believe the society ahead of me was so commercially depraved. Within a decade we had the Long Island Lolita Amy Fisher shootings in NY and i understood. I even wrote that she would come out of prison to fame and tv show deals.. exactly what happened. well they got 5 bucks of their 2 million from me. Ahead of its time. definetly.
My father owned a Mercedes Benz dealership and supplied the silver Mercedes for the scene after the kidnapping when they pulled up and walked into the apartment …. We were invited to watch the filming …… we were introduced to Deniro and Marty the director …… right after the car was returned to our dealership, it was stolen a day later ….. not sure if it was related .
I was lucky enough to have seen this when it was released, and was blown away by everything in it. One of my favourite movies...quality everywhere. Didn't know that it wasn't as successful as I thought. I figured that it would be considered a classic. Thanks for the update.
Thanks for a deep dive analysis of a superb film. I can’t help but notice however that to say the word “alienation” as many time as you do, and not mention the fact that Scocese’s film is, as usual, effectively a scathing Marxist critique of the newly emerging 1980s celebrity obsessed culture, and shockingly prescient one at that, is to leave out the obvious critique of traditional U.S. industrial capitalist consumer bourgeois culture at the epitome of its existence, just as makes its neoliberal turn under Reaganomics as the USA de-industrializes, becomes virulently anti-working class and anti-union, to transform the middle class from a culture of “working class heroes” to one obsessed by the empty pursuit of wealth alone via the new service economy… the eptimome of which is the celebrity. Looked up to for their success at attracting attention and being attractive. The 80s when this movie came out was very much a transitional decade and the King of Comedy represents this transitional state of affairs. Rupert is alienated from his class … the working class and is shown having no role models from this class and in a shockingly prescient way is shown as a kind of very early proto-incel (although the ability of capitalism to produce thousands of alienated, exploited, and marginalized young men frozen in a state of economic boyhood thanks to sudden seismic shifts in the labor market leading to them failing to have the opportunities available to earn, save, and make a “middle class family life” available even a few years previously is well documented over several generations throughout the history of the capitalist mode of production and wealth accumulation. The “celebrity” entertainer is not a universal character throughout history, and the modern, accessible, unglamorous “working class” celebrity traces its roots back to this time, the 1970s and 1980s. The dream of seeking fame and celebrity in the USA isn’t new, but the idea of seeking fame by getting close to the famous does. Pupkins idea of transforming himself into a celebrity just by kidnapping and being close to one, since in his mind now celebrity is but a matter of somewhat arbitrary circumstances and luck that can rub off onto him. This is new. Formerly celebrities were regarded as having been permanently transformed by the experience into something bigger and essentially different and superior than they were before they were celebrities. A change of state that once recognized was permanent and couldn’t just be learned, unlearned, or worked for. (“I am big. It’s the pictures that got small.”). In any case, “The King of Comedy” is a movie about the transformations being rendered upon US society by Reagan, the “new conservatism”, deindustrialization and the death of the traditional US working class, the rabid individualism transforming the country, the wealthy ruling class’s evisceration of the nation with the new neoliberal capitalist ideology which replaced all true ruling class leaders with genuine values as role models for greedy rich businessmen, and US working class heroes with celebrity culture. The King of Comedy was a terrific satire of that transformation of capitalist America. Again … thanks for the video. The King of Comedy was one of the last true comedic satires made by Hollywood in a decade that bore witness to the transformation of mainstream comedy from satire to the “comedy of manners” (in which the target of the comedy is transformed from one social or economic class of society to misanthropic “comedies” whose target is “humanity” or “society in general” where everyone … rich, poor, smart, stupid, are depicted as equally corrupt). Horror movies is where satire remained, since horror is closely related to comedy when the protagonist survives and the world returns to a more just state than it was at the beginning. Cheers!
Amazing research, insights, and analysis, congrats! It's one of my all time favourites. I don't agree that it shares tone with Joker: King of Comedy is a satire that loves its characters, but Joker is a drama full of anger, that doesn't have any love or affection for its main characters
This film was waaaay ahead of its time. Obsession with celebrity status is commonplace these days.😮
Joker lifted whole scenes from both king of comedy and Taxi Driver which was very distracting
The King of Comedy was the spiritual predecessor to Joker
I noticed that as well, King of Comedy is a better movie just for that
I felt joker was empty and shallow
@@scoon2117 Joker is a product of today's mainstream cinema, desperately trying to appear to be more than generic entertainment by embodying better films of the past. The trend of disguised remakes.
@JunkyardHounds yeah it almost felt like a weird cleaned up AI remake of taxi driver. I hate that everything is so derivative or has to comply with style of the time. Same reason I don't like a lot of a24 movies
Such an underrated film. An obviously, there would be no billion dollar "Joker" without it.
You missed the famous "King of Comedy" blooper. De Niro was sitting in a building plaza shooting a scene for the film -- dressed as Pupkin -- and a woman come up to him and asked when would he be in a new movie. De Niro told her he was doing a new film right now and pointed to the camera crew off in the distance.
Looks like I did. Where did you read that?
There used to be a TV show called "Bloopers and Practical Jokes" in the '80s. I saw it there.
@@seamesogrady8573 Right on!
"Blooper" Bullshit.
Are you aware how long Scorsese and Schoonmaker talk to edit this film?
As if they would miss something so obvious.
Do you people have any idea how films are made?
@@vittoriostoraro It wasn't in the final film. It was a "flubbed" take and went to the cutting room floor. Only airing on "Bloopers and Practical Jokes" hosted by Dick Clark and Ed McMahon on NBC-TV in the '80s. Do you know how films are made?
Outstanding documentary. The King of Comedy is one of the best black comedies of all time and this was a very interesting watch. So well-researched and produced. Amazing work.
One of my favourite movies. Blurring the lines between suspense, comedy and the absurd. The tension and cringe factor are almost intolerable while being strangely funny and thoroughly entertaining. Every character has their own unique perspective which is fascinating to watch. The great acting creates layers of clashing realities. By the end I can never figure out whether Pupkin is a hero or a villain. He's a very clever sociopath if nothing else,
God I love that Orson Welles clip. That'll never not be funny to me.
HAHA..Editing this video that is the one part that got me so many times.
Paul Shaffer in Spinal Tap is not the costume designer of King of Comedy lol
Yeah, that really threw me. Kind of off-putting tbh.
Lol..Sorry...It's kind of running gag in videos of mine to place that clip when I don't have a photo of the person.
@@TheTapesArchivegood one!
@@TheTapesArchive Funny that his surname in ST is rather similar to DeNiro's here... Artie Fufkin!
Thank you. Richard Bruno doesn't even look like Shaffer.
This film is superb in ways even some of the best of indie film of the last thirty plus years can't reach.
One really great story no one knows about and has never been told until now is during the casting of the film, Martin Scorcese and Robert DeNiro were looking for an actress to play MASHA (later made famous by Sandra Bernhard). Scorcese's casting director reached out to famed comedy writer Gail Parent (Carol Burnett Show, The Main Event, Mary Hartman Mary Hartman, Rhoda, Mary Tyler Moore and author of book Sheila Levine is Dead and Living in New York among many other books, films and TV shows) and set up an audition. Martin and Robert met with Gail who was (and still is) an incredible, hilarious writer to see how she would fair as an actress.
Martin, Robert and Gail met in a suite at Chateau Marmont in Los Angeles and Gail had a lengthy audition with Robert for over an hour. Gail said Martin was looking for an unknown to play Masha. It was a great audition and even though Gail ended up not getting the part, one very special thing happened during the audition.
While they rehearsed, they went over the scene where Masha seduces a tied up Jerry Langford (played by Jerry Lewis in the film). In the scene, Masha sings the song, Come Rain or Come Shine. The opening lyrics are, "I'm gonna love you like nobody's loved you, come Rain or come shine."
Gail, in her usual stroke of genius, changed the lyrics during her audition to "YOU'RE gonna love ME like nobody's loved ME, come rain or come shine." It immediately lifted the scene and made the moment much better. So much so, that Martin and Robert changed the lyrics in the script to Gail's improvisationed words.
Even though Gail didn't get the part, she made a lasting impression during the audition and still remembers her time with Martin and Robert fondly.
I know because she told me the story while reminiscing about her career while in talks about her possible Memoir.
Wow, what a great nugget of KOC history, thank you. I wish I could go back and add it in. 🍻
I love this film, it gave Jerry Lewis a part that no one would imagine he would ever play.
King of Comedy is an excellent movie. It's in my top category along with another little-heralded film, The Contender, with Jeff Bridges playing the president.
The Contender is excellent
Brilliant Lewis!! Amazing doc as always 👍 More!
You mentioned costume designer Dick Bruno but you show a shot of Paul Shaffer.
It's running gag in my videos when I don't have a image of the person.
@@TheTapesArchive OK, cool.
I saw this king of comedy for the first time last night.
1, how is Todd Phillips not being sued for plagarism? 2. It’s interesting that Jerry Lewis and his assistant genuinely gave Ruppert multiple chances and good advice, he just refused to follow them. 3. It was nice to see a somewhat cheery ending, unlike the joker
You know the fact that Joker basically took the king of Comedy and reworked it to the point of having Robert Deniro there in the Jerry Lewis part should have been obvious by movie critics. But then again, it was done so well that it could be regarded as a Tarantino interpretation of the original material.
The proper way to describe it is that his mom yells at HIM, and then he yells back to get her off his case. To just say, "He constantly yells at his mom," conveys a false impression.
Fair point. Writing is my weakest strength for sure. Thanks for the sub!
@@TheTapesArchiveno it’s not weakness at all
This was a beautiful piece on an underappreciated CLASSIC
Nitpickers gunna nitpick
From watching the movie it appears that they constantly yell at each other, not the first time
@@TheTapesArchive I agree. Your writing is weak. But you can improve. I think one way to improve that over the long term is to just read a lot of good writing - journalism specifically. Eventually your brain will absorb what quality prose is like and you will be more likely to produce it. Short term, make sure you edit your first draft and improve it, then edit again. And again.
This was awesome. I did my dissertation, as part of my American Studies degree in what would eventually become Hope University, Liverpool, but which at the time was merely a patch of vomit in a marsh somewhere, on Scorsese's Misfits, re: Taxi Driver, Raging Bull and King of Comedy. And this was back in '91. And now look at me.
One of Roberts best roles IMO. It was so different and a underrated Scorsese film. Jerry also knocked it out the park. From everything i've heard he didn't have to stretch much from himself. And seems Todd Philips used this combined this film and Taxi Driver for Joker.
After Vai and VH, a documentary about one of my favourite movies...
Dude, you're doing God's work. Thanks a million.
Cheers from France, brother!!
It's crazy how small of a world it is some times. We grew up in completely different cultures yet we love many of the same things. Your comment made my day. Thanks! 🍻
@@TheTapesArchive Thing is, Alan, you're doing a GREAT job. Plus, it's about what I like: Sabbath, Vai, Edward, DLR, KOC.. I saved pretty much every video off your channel, just in case. Your videos make my days. 😉
I loved this film. Saw it in a theater when it came out.
Can we say how great this insightful video is?
An underrated film that does require you to be in the mood to watch it. When you do though, it is worthwhile. Jerry Lewis is the real star.
Well done.
Really enjoyed this documentary, which covered many bases
One of the most underrated movies imo. And perhaps the best performance by De Niro to date
We were just in New York and we had a bite to eat at Sardi's!
This movie was way ahead of its time
Enjoyed it! I watched this movie many times.
Excellent documentary! 💯
Nice retrospective, but "Fade to Black" is a darn good film.
Excellent!
I really should check this out. I criticize DeNiro a lot for essentially playing the same character over and over again since the 70's but sometimes forget. What an amazing performance he can give from time to time, like Raging Bull or the Cape Fear remake.
Thank you for mentioning "A Face in the Crowd," which doesn't get enough attention. Like Kind of Comedy, it stars a comedic actor in an incredibly serious role in Andy Griffith. He is directed by Elia Kazan in this movie though, one of the greatest actor directors of all time. (On the Waterfront, Streetcar, East of Eden, many more.)
De Niro's performances in almost all his film have been some of my all time favourites. However, I sometimes wonder how much of the real De Niro is present in them. He seems very apt at playing characters which could be described as not very likeable, with many seeming psychotic and violent. Of course, these are roles written by others, but that he chose or was chosen for. Yet, you can see many parallels between the performances and that leads me to think part of that is his real personality, revelling in the sort of character that he, consciously or subconsciously, identifies with.
Boy, did he nail this. Look where we are now.
Why the clips of Paul Shaffer? Did I miss something?
A great insight into one of Scorsese's most underrated films, honestly it's probably in my top 3 Scorsese movies, I like it more than Raging Bull. Please make more of these documentaries, they're great.
Thank you so much for the encouragement. And thanks for being a subscriber. 🍻
DeNiro is tarnished forever
Well done documentary.
Joker has DeNiro playing Jerry Langford playing Carson
Are you saying "Norman" Desmond?
A big speed bump there!
This film was ahead of its time. Another film from the ‘70’s that forecast reality TV was Network. If you haven’t seen it, check it out. It’s spooky how much it predicted the direction tv would eventually go to.
That’s not Dick Bruno, it’s Paul Schaffer in Spinal Tap.
Carson’s producer is named Freddy DeCordova NOT Freddy Decorva!
Why is Paul Schaefer (in his role in "Spinal Tap") shown twice around 11:00?
The singer Pear Harbor makes a quick cameo, she was dating Paul Simonon of the Clash at the time.
Pearl Harbour (born Patricia Gilbert). She married Simonon.
@@SorendeSelbyBowen also went by Pearl Esther Gates / Pearl E Gates ( pearly gates)
@@josemejia9349 I loved "Drivin' " when she went by as Pearl Harbor and the Explosions.
@@SorendeSelbyBowen love her! Fujiyama Mama live on stage with the Clash is pretty awesome also
background 'music' very annoying. good content but couldnt take the music
Carson's producer was Fred DeCORDOVA, not DeCORVA.
As soon as we hear ahead of it's time. Off it goes !
I love the Tarantino's videos that you did because bring the book to life but i understand that could bring some legal issues to the channel so this new content is fantastic as well😂🎉❤
Thanks for commenting. I was wondering what fans of the Tarantino videos would think of my own work. I'd like to make more of the QT videos but it got old reading all the "you suck" comments for using a AI voice. lol..And the fact that I was using his words which could lead to legal issues. But I still might make another one. Not sure.
Masterpiece
21:48
You missed what is, in my mind THE quintessential movie about fame and obsessive fandom, Nashville.
Let’s fuckin go dude
The name of Johhny Carson's producer is Fred de Cordova, not Corova....
It's more poignant than ever now that everyone with a phone is obsessed with being seen. Every tweeter with 100 followers can't understand why they ain't a Kardashian.
Carson's producer's name is spelled Fred de Cordova
"Play Misty For Me" is better than that, junior. And of course Walters' performance is going to stand out more, look what she was playing. Eastwood's character was a laid back, reserved bachelor, not some smarmy egotist. He did it fine. And it was made over a decade before The King of Comedy, thought that is a very fine movie, imo.
Would you like more videos like this one? Thoughts, critiques? Go back to Tarantino videos? If anyone is wondering, zero AI used in this video. 🍻
00:00 - Start
00:58 - The screenplay is written
01:53 - De Niro buys the screenplay
02:36 - De Niro sells The King of Comedy to Marty
02:58 - Real-life horrific events
04:35 - Looming directors strike
05:10 - How Rupert Pupkin is like other Scorsese characters
07:10 - Raging Bull
07:50 - The Aviator
08:20 - The Last Temptation of Christ
09:22 - De Niro transforms into Rupert Pupkin
09:56 - Fat Vinny
11:14 - Casting Jerry Lewis as Jerry Langford
11:41 - Drunken mess
12:01 - De Niro didn’t want Lewis at first
12:45 - De Niro pushes Lewis’ buttons
13:33 - The supporting cast
14:24 - Cameos
14:50 - The Clash
15:20 - De Niro’s really good buddy
16:46 - The look of The King of Comedy
17:19 - Other movies similar to The King of Comedy
17:29 - Sunset Boulevard
18:56 - Play Misty for me
21:04 - The Fan
22:16 - Reception for The King of Comedy
22:58 - The influence of The King of Comedy
23:29 - The Comedian
23:52 - Joker
24:52 - Paul Zimmerman post premier
26:46 - The King of Comedy of trivia
💯. I thought it was great! Thanks much, from Jacksonville, Florida.
Great Job! Had no idea that Fat Vinny had a connection to this. Fascinating!
I have the record album released for this film, probably not worth much ?
Be careful. Using terms like "Rich Tapestry" is a sure sign of AI....9:00 🤥
@@8thGradeFilms I had never heard of Fat Vinny, but all my KISS buddies knew of him.
I first heard about this movie is on Pitch meeting
Scorsese was hospitalized for “exhaustion,” or in other words, a dangerous coke addiction.
And... at 26.32, we have Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio for a second.... who as you know, a couple of years later....
I remember seeing her when I saw this movie first as a teenager.
But yes,it took me forvever to point out that if you pause on the flash photography in the opening scenes you can clearly see her.
As an extra.
To me,at the time she was that awesome ocean rigger from The Abyss and Tony Montana's sister.
Wow, some back story
10:37 That's not Paul Shaffer??
many scenes took place in Pupkin's head. Those that feel like a sitcom.
Brilliant black comedy.
I saw this movie when it first came out because I loved Jerry Lewis, and wanted to see him in a dramatic role. I tell it like it is: Martin Scorcese makes me nauseous. I've never seen any other film he directed. Violence is not cool in the movies, Marty Big Shot. Violence generates violence. Can you say "Reagan Assasination Attempt" ???
I'm probably not the first to point this out, but that's Mick Jones in the two-shot with the manager (appearing for the second time), not Paul Simonon, who does not appear.
Ah man, I fudged that up. I just rewatched and not sure how I could have gotten that wrong. Thanks for correcting me. 🍻
@@TheTapesArchive It actually betrays empathy on your part: it was literally your interpretation compensating for Scorsese's glaring continuity error. 😉
SICK SICK SICK!
Some help on this one, please: at the 26:32-minute mark, is that not Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio standing next to De Niro? Never mind. It IS her, she's a credited extra on this movie. Weird.
What’s with the 2 second clip of Paul Shaffer playing Artie Fufkin from This is Spinal Tap ? Is this because AI got pupkin and fufkin mixed up.
Zero AI used in the video. It's a running gag I have in my videos when I don't have a image of the person I'm talking about.
Keep it up man
This is awesome I’m only afew minutes in
Right on! Please consider subscribing if you haven't already, it really helps the channel grow so you get more content like this. 🍻
@@TheTapesArchive bro I’m already a subscriber
@@tomorrowwestport2620 Sorry, UA-cam shows you not to be. But I know they get it wrong. Thank you!!
Why did you have a clip of Paul Schaffer for the Dick Bruno guy? (Artie Fufkin/Rupert Pupkin?) Edit: Ah, just seen your comment below.
Day of the Locust is a difficult watch, but it's also a great, raw look into the early days of Hollywood. You can't go wrong when you have Jackie Earle Haley
as wannabe child star "Adore," Burgess Meredith smiling/laughing/wheezing/on-the-verge-of-death in every scene, and of course the dreadfully maladroit Homer Simpson played by Donald Sutherland. Highly recommended!
Nice going, smart! Thanks. Thurber’s “Walter Mitty” among first of deluded character stories. They made two bad movies of that. Far cry from brilliant King of Comedy.
Not that it would make sense, but I would have enjoyed Rupert delivering a devastating monologue on the Langford show. Not necessarily funny, but unexpectedly arresting.
I always saw this as part of scorsese's sociopath trilogy
taxi driver
raging bull
the king of comedy
a
masterwork
De Niro is a major R....D and I don't want to ever lay eyes on this actor again, or mention his name. Done.
D un. Done.
At 27:42 that's Paul Shaffer former musical director with SNL then later David Letterman's band leader for over 3 decades. It ain't that Bruno guy.
Thats Paul Saffer not Dick Bruno.....Its the movie Spinal Tap
Are you sure?
I think you compared Rupert to Travis too quickly. Sure Rupert was isolated but his character was very joyful because in his delusions he believed he was going to have his own show and his routine was funny. Travis methodically wrote down his thoughts and tracked his isolation throughout the whole movie and was succumbing to dark thoughts. Two very different characters that’s a bit glazed over here but otherwise a good and interesting video
Fair point. Writing these things are not my strong suite. It's a struggle. 🍻
AI upscaling on some of these clips is very jarring
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17:56 I do believe the boob narrating this says "Norman Desmond".
I'm that boob. haha. I'm a functioning idiot and get things wrong.
One mystery is why this film was not recognised for the great movie it was/is back in 1983? I have a theory about a society so in love with celebrity that they simply could not see the truth of this movie. Am I wrong?
I have my theory in the video.
I think that it's cultural because people got it in the UK such that it won a Bafta for best screenplay.
joker was inspired by not just scorsese and king of comedy but also other films like Network and Dog Day Afternoon
Why do you keep cutting to a clip of Paul Schaefer in "Spinal Tap" every time you say the name Dick Bruno? Is that a joke or do you really not know it's Paul?
It's running gag in my videos when I don't have a image of the person.
this movie upset and probably scared celebrities.
Seriously, was this video script generated by AI? It mentioned the fact that the movie was about isolation and loneliness about 38 times. The movie was actually quite hilarious, and sad, but watching this video you would think it’s the sequel to taxi driver.
Actually, I'm just horrible at writing. I love to edit but need text to work with.
If you know there’s room to improve your writing, that’s a start. Writing can be hard work. Hang in there.
why did Cimino look so much like Jon Lovitz
i saw the film in Collège as it came out , saw it in NYC , at that time i liked the film alot BUT coudlnt by into the ending - where after a few years in jail, Rupert comes out and gets his own show. I coudlnt believe the society ahead of me was so commercially depraved. Within a decade we had the Long Island Lolita Amy Fisher shootings in NY and i understood. I even wrote that she would come out of prison to fame and tv show deals.. exactly what happened. well they got 5 bucks of their 2 million from me. Ahead of its time. definetly.
Kinda spoiled my faith in the creator when he keeps talking about Norman Desmond….
10:39 That's definitely not Dick Bruno. It's Paul Shaffer (playing Artie Fufkin, Polymer Records).
Are you sure about that?
My father owned a Mercedes Benz dealership and supplied the silver Mercedes for the scene after the kidnapping when they pulled up and walked into the apartment …. We were invited to watch the filming …… we were introduced to Deniro and Marty the director …… right after the car was returned to our dealership, it was stolen a day later ….. not sure if it was related .
That's amazing! Also unfortunate.
I was lucky enough to have seen this when it was released, and was blown away by everything in it.
One of my favourite movies...quality everywhere.
Didn't know that it wasn't as successful as I thought. I figured that it would be considered a classic.
Thanks for the update.
Thanks for a deep dive analysis of a superb film. I can’t help but notice however that to say the word “alienation” as many time as you do, and not mention the fact that Scocese’s film is, as usual, effectively a scathing Marxist critique of the newly emerging 1980s celebrity obsessed culture, and shockingly prescient one at that, is to leave out the obvious critique of traditional U.S. industrial capitalist consumer bourgeois culture at the epitome of its existence, just as makes its neoliberal turn under Reaganomics as the USA de-industrializes, becomes virulently anti-working class and anti-union, to transform the middle class from a culture of “working class heroes” to one obsessed by the empty pursuit of wealth alone via the new service economy… the eptimome of which is the celebrity. Looked up to for their success at attracting attention and being attractive. The 80s when this movie came out was very much a transitional decade and the King of Comedy represents this transitional state of affairs. Rupert is alienated from his class … the working class and is shown having no role models from this class and in a shockingly prescient way is shown as a kind of very early proto-incel (although the ability of capitalism to produce thousands of alienated, exploited, and marginalized young men frozen in a state of economic boyhood thanks to sudden seismic shifts in the labor market leading to them failing to have the opportunities available to earn, save, and make a “middle class family life” available even a few years previously is well documented over several generations throughout the history of the capitalist mode of production and wealth accumulation.
The “celebrity” entertainer is not a universal character throughout history, and the modern, accessible, unglamorous “working class” celebrity traces its roots back to this time, the 1970s and 1980s. The dream of seeking fame and celebrity in the USA isn’t new, but the idea of seeking fame by getting close to the famous does. Pupkins idea of transforming himself into a celebrity just by kidnapping and being close to one, since in his mind now celebrity is but a matter of somewhat arbitrary circumstances and luck that can rub off onto him. This is new. Formerly celebrities were regarded as having been permanently transformed by the experience into something bigger and essentially different and superior than they were before they were celebrities. A change of state that once recognized was permanent and couldn’t just be learned, unlearned, or worked for. (“I am big. It’s the pictures that got small.”).
In any case, “The King of Comedy” is a movie about the transformations being rendered upon US society by Reagan, the “new conservatism”, deindustrialization and the death of the traditional US working class, the rabid individualism transforming the country, the wealthy ruling class’s evisceration of the nation with the new neoliberal capitalist ideology which replaced all true ruling class leaders with genuine values as role models for greedy rich businessmen, and US working class heroes with celebrity culture. The King of Comedy was a terrific satire of that transformation of capitalist America.
Again … thanks for the video. The King of Comedy was one of the last true comedic satires made by Hollywood in a decade that bore witness to the transformation of mainstream comedy from satire to the “comedy of manners” (in which the target of the comedy is transformed from one social or economic class of society to misanthropic “comedies” whose target is “humanity” or “society in general” where everyone … rich, poor, smart, stupid, are depicted as equally corrupt). Horror movies is where satire remained, since horror is closely related to comedy when the protagonist survives and the world returns to a more just state than it was at the beginning.
Cheers!
Damn man, you sound a hell of lot smarter than me. My brain could never go that deep. 🍻
Willem Dafoe, not "William".
Really great . Really interesting.
Right on! Thanks for checking it out.
I found this film disturbing as hell
Amazing research, insights, and analysis, congrats! It's one of my all time favourites. I don't agree that it shares tone with Joker: King of Comedy is a satire that loves its characters, but Joker is a drama full of anger, that doesn't have any love or affection for its main characters
Norma, not Norman.
What a great essay doc