Another point for the cheap T12 soldering stations. Couple days ago I received Quicko-branded T12 soldering stations and so far it has been great. It's not exactly the same as your KSGER, but they are comparable. TS80 was my second option, but seems like I made a right choice. Nice comparison!
Recently bought a Quicko T12 as well. Best that I have, but would like to be able to hold it closer to work. That KSGER handle does seem swallow the T12 tips deeper; I am jelly. Puzzling that they put the cord attachment on the left side of the control box.
@@GnuReligion My soldering station came with 9501 handle, which has about 5cm or 2" distance between the handle and the tip. If your soldering station has 6 pin connector, you can find these handles on Aliexpress. Just search for "9501 6c handle". Price is in range of $12. At least in my opinion it would be worth it.
@@Hugatry Thanks. Mine is a 4C, about 3" from handle to tip. I did the search though, and found this below, in both 4/6C for $11.12. Added to cart! www.aliexpress.com/item/33000100959.html
You can use different iron handles with these. Many different models available in different price classes. I believe the shortest ones are about 37-40mm from iron grip flange to solder tip.
Quickco & DXCHMEI appear to be upgraded versions of the KSGER T12, they have both a 24v & mains input & the DXCHMEI is properly grounded with a slightly different user interface
If you wanted to, I don't see why you couldn't pull the power supply out of the KSGER and replace it with a battery pack. There's lots of space in the enclosure after it's gone and that would make it portable.
Nice test, but you should've do the test with similar tips, the ts80 uses a D25 tip and it's way smaller than the K type that you used on the ksger and with the power difference between the irons it be probably better to use a even smaller tip on the ksger, something like a D16 tip. Cheers.
I have the Quiko version of this ($20) without the built in power supply. I use an old 19.5v laptop ps for plug power and for remote power, I 3D printed an adapter for my 20v Ridgid power tool lithium battery pack and that powers this for hours... Love these things!
you can also now get a battery pcb for the inside of the ksger unit and build one that runs on batteries that you can charge up and gives around 1-1.5 hours from my experience depending on usage. yes its bigger but i dont find that to big of an issue. i made a longer handle wire so if im using it in a car for example i can sit the unit somewhere safe and have a longer reach.
i allways thought about the ts-80 as a decent "portable" soldering iron i can throw in my backpack and maybe power it from a powerbank... not as a good bench iron
I purchased the Ksger and overall had a bad experience with the unit. It was intermittent in heating the iron and I could not get sufficient information on some of the error messages and little support. I final repaired the bad contacts in the iron and a cold solder joint. I noted there are several others that had similar problems with the Ksger. At least for me, I would not recommend this soldering iron/station. However thanks for the video, I enjoy your channel.
I havent got a T12 yet. However I think there is no competition. For heavier jobs you need more power. Some years back I upgraded from a 50W brand iron to 80W and it made a huge difference even with the average job. When you need a portable iron, usb irons have no competition. Inverter and some batteries in the backpack are not for most of us :) I have a 80W brand iron and TS80 for portable use, yet just ordered a T12 for some other use cases and backup tool.
I’m pretty much a complete dullard when it came to electronics. But thanks in part to you I’ve learned quite a bit. I’ve learned to solder with a TS100. Maybe because I didn’t know better it’s come to be my favourite. I tried the station but I guess it’s just dumb luck but the TS just feels better. Being an older fellow I remember junk plastics. But I find no downside or improvement with the TS80. More money. And at least with the 100 tips are fairly cheap. Some shopping required but seeed and other electronics spots have some really low priced specials. Last tips put me back under $4. Thank you again, I enjoyed the review. I hope the sponsorship doesn’t hurt the number of views, but maybe that doesn’t matter. That said yours is the only channel I put up with posting ads. Good content wins.
I have both, and at least for me TS80 feels way nicer in hand. I use TS80 on 24w and cannot notice any difference in performance. Also with two kids and no dedicated workbench, TS80 is easiest to use. Just plug it into phone charger and go :)
Nice. Why don't simply take Ersa 150S (150 watts, heavy) and compare that to TS80)) Ersa wins, I bet)) Thermal mass of T12 tip and TS80 are very different. TS80 has a bit similar tip (K4) surprised it was not used for comparison, or another similar to TS80 T12 tip (which are aplenty) could have been used for the test. I think the comparison is not correct. I compared TS80 to my JBC 245 handle and tips powered by 130 Watts controller (Unisolder and I am sure it does feed this power since I have an appropriate transformer and the firmware itself limits 24V @6A so go figure). I did not notice a "significant" difference in performance between them, except that high thermal JBC tips can conquer with my brutal Ersa 150S)), for them, JBC has a clear edge of TS80. But that is JBC, which is stellar equipment)), I guess somewhat funny like T12 station with switching PS and questionable tips (no avail to genuine Hakko) will not look way better than TS80, by all means))
Another point for the cheap T12 soldering stations. Couple days ago I received Quicko-branded T12 soldering stations and so far it has been great. It's not exactly the same as your KSGER, but they are comparable. TS80 was my second option, but seems like I made a right choice.
Nice comparison!
Recently bought a Quicko T12 as well. Best that I have, but would like to be able to hold it closer to work. That KSGER handle does seem swallow the T12 tips deeper; I am jelly. Puzzling that they put the cord attachment on the left side of the control box.
@@GnuReligion My soldering station came with 9501 handle, which has about 5cm or 2" distance between the handle and the tip. If your soldering station has 6 pin connector, you can find these handles on Aliexpress. Just search for "9501 6c handle".
Price is in range of $12. At least in my opinion it would be worth it.
@@Hugatry Thanks. Mine is a 4C, about 3" from handle to tip. I did the search though, and found this below, in both 4/6C for $11.12.
Added to cart!
www.aliexpress.com/item/33000100959.html
You can use different iron handles with these. Many different models available in different price classes. I believe the shortest ones are about 37-40mm from iron grip flange to solder tip.
Quickco & DXCHMEI appear to be upgraded versions of the KSGER T12, they have both a 24v & mains input & the DXCHMEI is properly grounded with a slightly different user interface
If you wanted to, I don't see why you couldn't pull the power supply out of the KSGER and replace it with a battery pack. There's lots of space in the enclosure after it's gone and that would make it portable.
jamisonlm3 sure you could do that but it's not the same level of portability, the ts80 would still be easier to pack
Nice test, but you should've do the test with similar tips, the ts80 uses a D25 tip and it's way smaller than the K type that you used on the ksger and with the power difference between the irons it be probably better to use a even smaller tip on the ksger, something like a D16 tip. Cheers.
The ts80 tip is shorter and thicker so I think it actually had an advantage over the knife tip on the t12 station.
I have the Quiko version of this ($20) without the built in power supply. I use an old 19.5v laptop ps for plug power and for remote power, I 3D printed an adapter for my 20v Ridgid power tool lithium battery pack and that powers this for hours... Love these things!
you can also now get a battery pcb for the inside of the ksger unit and build one that runs on batteries that you can charge up and gives around 1-1.5 hours from my experience depending on usage. yes its bigger but i dont find that to big of an issue. i made a longer handle wire so if im using it in a car for example i can sit the unit somewhere safe and have a longer reach.
Hi
Do you know if TS12 can work as is with heat gun?
i allways thought about the ts-80 as a decent "portable" soldering iron i can throw in my backpack and maybe power it from a powerbank... not as a good bench iron
yup, I outlined that in the video
Ksger is better in my opinion, I own both too.
I purchased the Ksger and overall had a bad experience with the unit. It was intermittent in heating the iron and I could not get sufficient information on some of the error messages and little support. I final repaired the bad contacts in the iron and a cold solder joint. I noted there are several others that had similar problems with the Ksger. At least for me, I would not recommend this soldering iron/station. However thanks for the video, I enjoy your channel.
ok, thank you for your feedback!
I havent got a T12 yet. However I think there is no competition. For heavier jobs you need more power. Some years back I upgraded from a 50W brand iron to 80W and it made a huge difference even with the average job. When you need a portable iron, usb irons have no competition. Inverter and some batteries in the backpack are not for most of us :)
I have a 80W brand iron and TS80 for portable use, yet just ordered a T12 for some other use cases and backup tool.
I’m pretty much a complete dullard when it came to electronics. But thanks in part to you I’ve learned quite a bit. I’ve learned to solder with a TS100. Maybe because I didn’t know better it’s come to be my favourite. I tried the station but I guess it’s just dumb luck but the TS just feels better. Being an older fellow I remember junk plastics. But I find no downside or improvement with the TS80. More money. And at least with the 100 tips are fairly cheap. Some shopping required but seeed and other electronics spots have some really low priced specials. Last tips put me back under $4. Thank you again, I enjoyed the review. I hope the sponsorship doesn’t hurt the number of views, but maybe that doesn’t matter. That said yours is the only channel I put up with posting ads. Good content wins.
Thomas Jaszewski sure, everyone has a favourite soldering iron, it's nice we have so many affordable options so we can choose.
Would you recommend i go for the KSGER T12 or the TS100?
Better buy induction soldering station. Best budget option yihua 900h
wanted to know this answer too
Recommend t12 , if you want portability then better go for ts80 than ts100 because ts80 supports usb type c but ts100 doesn't
Nice item
T12-952 mini version is only $25 at banggood and on my shopping list
Why do people get the TS80 when the TS100 exists and is much better?
And it hovers around 38-40 $ without shipping.
@@andreikolozsvari I bought it for 50$ free shipping! Been using it for about a year now, and I think they're the best 50$ I've ever invested
TS100 is definitely more powerful and has the cheaper tips, but i guess some like the USB-C on the TS80 so it might make sense for some use cases.
I have both, and at least for me TS80 feels way nicer in hand. I use TS80 on 24w and cannot notice any difference in performance. Also with two kids and no dedicated workbench, TS80 is easiest to use. Just plug it into phone charger and go :)
I have had a TS100 for more than 2 years, I us it for all my soldering using a 19v laptop supply, best iron I ever bought..
Nice test
Thanks for sharing :-)
T12 all the way unless you need portability, cheaper, cheaper tips, shorter tips to handle ration
Really nice!!
Nice. Why don't simply take Ersa 150S (150 watts, heavy) and compare that to TS80)) Ersa wins, I bet)) Thermal mass of T12 tip and TS80 are very different. TS80 has a bit similar tip (K4) surprised it was not used for comparison, or another similar to TS80 T12 tip (which are aplenty) could have been used for the test. I think the comparison is not correct. I compared TS80 to my JBC 245 handle and tips powered by 130 Watts controller (Unisolder and I am sure it does feed this power since I have an appropriate transformer and the firmware itself limits 24V @6A so go figure). I did not notice a "significant" difference in performance between them, except that high thermal JBC tips can conquer with my brutal Ersa 150S)), for them, JBC has a clear edge of TS80. But that is JBC, which is stellar equipment)), I guess somewhat funny like T12 station with switching PS and questionable tips (no avail to genuine Hakko) will not look way better than TS80, by all means))
Video fake...come cazzo fai a saldare con un coso di 40cm 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
A bit too much commercials and shilling for my taste...