Use Bartonella Symptoms to Diagnose - Do Not Rely on Tests

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  • Опубліковано 29 лип 2019
  • Bartonella in a Lyme Disease treatment is hard to diagnose. Marty Ross MD explains how to use Bartonella symptoms to make a Bartonella diagnosis. In this video Dr. Ross describes the tests that could be used. For more details click the link to read an article at Treat Lyme: www.treatlyme.net/guide/diagn...

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  • @skylar1727
    @skylar1727 Рік тому +9

    Symptoms Ive had from bart:
    tingling, numbness, pain in foot, warm wet feeling in foot, blurry vision, dizziness, brain fog, rage, insomnia, flu symptoms, fever, chills, watering eyes, muscle pain, headaches, nausea, malaise, sunburn rashes that come and go very quickly, light and sound sensitivity... just in case anyone is wondering about bart symptoms. bc there is a long list..Marty only mentions a few.

    • @waymdart
      @waymdart Рік тому

      Ive had about half of these, and have been on 2 antibiotics a day for over a year in the recommended combinations. Treatment recommendations change. Fluconazole was the last and greatest new thing, but now it is #1 to avoid because it causes neuropathy, which burning and tingling was my most persistent symptom. Why after all the herbs, tinctures, antibiotics do I feel worse? Last order was for $500 of products. Prevously when I took the 360s I would get pretty intense pain after about 3 hours that lasted 2 to 4 hours. This was from one pill. But he is recommending much higher doses. And after 2 bottles of 360s Im really not better. I was taking a lot of Ibuprofen for the pain but this ca n cause liver failure, so cutting back on that. Lumbrokinase also causes this intense pain, and I have to be careful when I take it because I am out of commission for a few hours and can't get anything done. I try to take these products so that I have 4 good hours per day, but after 15 months I can't say I'm much better,

    • @SadaraxTutorials
      @SadaraxTutorials Рік тому

      ​@@waymdartI'm on rifabutin and azithromycin and I feel better

  • @crismtz4537
    @crismtz4537 Рік тому

    Super beneficial information!

  • @cindyre85
    @cindyre85 Рік тому +5

    I get sweats and pain all over my body. I have blurry vision and I am tired all the time. I can’t afford to have anymore test done.

    • @benjaminbritt7862
      @benjaminbritt7862 11 місяців тому +2

      Those symptoms are also characteristic of lyme infection in addition to bartonella

    • @cindyre85
      @cindyre85 11 місяців тому

      @@benjaminbritt7862 Thank you for this information.

  • @GoodWil2U
    @GoodWil2U 9 місяців тому

    YES YES & YES totally you're spot on sir. thank you. I am following your protocol.

  • @lati5074
    @lati5074 4 роки тому +5

    Good video🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

  • @BetseyLong
    @BetseyLong 3 роки тому +9

    I have all of those symptoms. I actually hallucinated yesterday and I'm currently experiencing one of many days sweats just today. I'm miserable. I've had so many different kinds of treatments. I tested positive for Lyme multiple times and a history of Bartonella. At this point though I can't afford any more treatment. What should I do?

    • @tapangasoul6928
      @tapangasoul6928 2 роки тому +5

      You could try Sida Acuta. Then otoba bark//cats claw. Then maybe Teasel Root. These few could help, if you build really slowly and find the right dose. I sincerely hope you feel better.

  • @FromTheTopsOfTheTrees
    @FromTheTopsOfTheTrees Рік тому +3

    Could bartonella manifest mainly as gut symptoms? I am positive on Galaxy 1:128 but don't have burning soles. Main symptoms are colitis, digestive issues, headaches, night sweats, rib pain, spinal pain, fatigue...

  • @LadyGertie2012
    @LadyGertie2012 3 роки тому +7

    I tested positive with igenex last month. Long suspected I have it bc if shaking and other symptoms. Only diagnosed with Lyme before that (after four years of misdiagnosis and no treatment).

    • @DDumbrille
      @DDumbrille 3 роки тому +1

      Everyone tests positive via Igenex. EVERYONE. Shaking could be due to a b12 deficiency...

    • @LadyGertie2012
      @LadyGertie2012 3 роки тому +3

      @@DDumbrille yea they don’t. Also my b 12 is fine. I also have strongyloides.

    • @cdlf5433
      @cdlf5433 Рік тому +2

      @@DDumbrille What do you mean EVERYONE? Please explain, your comment can cause confusion to people that are desperately looking for answers.

    • @DDumbrille
      @DDumbrille Рік тому

      @@cdlf5433 Think about it. This desperation for 'answers' or an 'answer' to ones complicated health issues is like a magnet for a company like Igenex. Word spreads quickly when people say, "I tested negative via western blot, over and over, but came back positive w/Igenex. YOU NEED TO USE IGENEX." This is rinsed and repeated throughout the chronic illness communities online, and Igenex is THE BENEFICIARY. In other words, testing positive is GOOD FOR BUSINESS. Even though their testing is incredibly unreliable:
      "The LUAT was performed by the test’s manufacturer (IgeneX, Palo Alto, CA) on urine samples taken from 10 healthy volunteers who had no history or symptoms of Lyme disease. Each urine sample was divided into five equal fractions, or replicates, so that a total of 50 individual LUATs were performed. The LUAT results, unlike the highly reproducible IgG Western blot results, varied markedly. At least one urine fraction from each of the 10 samples examined tested false-positive. Two urine samples consistently showed false-positive results. Replicates for the eight remaining samples examined were a mixture of positive and negative values, making it impossible to conclude that they were positive or negative."
      In other words -- these 10 HEALTHY volunteers -- ALL came back with FALSE-positive results. And that's been repeated in other studies, and in lawsuits against the company.
      lymescience.org/igenex-lyme-disease-testing-nih/

  • @leschatsmusicale
    @leschatsmusicale Рік тому +1

    Many of the symptoms of bartonella are also typical of porphyria.

  • @sovereignsoulutions6612
    @sovereignsoulutions6612 2 роки тому

    My bartonella came back with very high IGG levels on 2 out of the 3 bands but the PCR for it came back negative. So....is it active or no?

  • @GuardianMB
    @GuardianMB 3 роки тому +6

    Great video! How can I schedule an appointment? I know by heart that I have Bartonella.

  • @seasalt3188
    @seasalt3188 2 роки тому

    Yes, how can I be seen?

  • @legatron7299
    @legatron7299 2 роки тому

    is elispot good for bartonela??

  • @kolsen5420
    @kolsen5420 Рік тому +4

    is heavy sweating during the day a bart symptom? i will be cold, in the winter and my clothes stick to my body because i sweat so much..

    • @cindyre85
      @cindyre85 11 місяців тому +2

      I have this happening too, I was diagnosed very late. I have pain all over my body, vision problems. Nerve issues, chronic fatigue, migraines, fever and sweating and irregular heartbeats. I am getting worse I don’t know what to do. I woke up sweating and my whole body hurts even my fingers. I feel so alone in this fight against Lyme.

    • @TODD7
      @TODD7 11 місяців тому +4

      @@cindyre85 Sounds like babesia + mold + bartonella and Lyme. Most important step is making sure you aren't living in mold and do a mycotoxin urine test from Great Plains or Vibrant to test if you have mold in your body. if you do then you'd have to detox mold. If you are living in mold you'd obviously have to move and get rid of most of your belongings you can't properly clean. hope this helps

    • @cindyre85
      @cindyre85 11 місяців тому +2

      @@TODD7 Thank you for this information. I really appreciate any advice. I will try the test.

    • @TODD7
      @TODD7 11 місяців тому

      @@cindyre85 You're welcome. The best route to go is using herbals for Lyme & co infections. prescription medicines can mess up your organs and gut over a long period of time. unfortunately treating the diseases can be at least 6 months to 12 months before feeling better. Marty Ross says the bartonella and babesia can be cured in normally 4-6 months using the herbal methods he has on his site, but that's just his average time he reports. SOT for Lyme is probably the best chance of actually trying to get rid of Lyme borrelia burgdorferi, afzelli, garinii, etc. Unfortunately SOTs are very expensive usually $2,000-4,000 per SOT and require 1-2 SOTs per strain. SOT is Supportive oligonucleotide therapy. there is many layers to healing the diseases, and having a good clean diet is a good foundation to build off. Start on herbals one herb at a time on a very low dose to see how you react. Marty Ross has all the protocols on his site for Lyme, bartonella, babesia, and also mold treatment. hope this helps

    • @Grace4me111
      @Grace4me111 10 місяців тому

      ​@cindyre85 these insane symptoms are what has been happening to me..I believe it's fungal!!! Get antifungalS asap..

  • @kevinfitzgerald7474
    @kevinfitzgerald7474 Рік тому +2

    I know what I have and damage but treatments are another tough issue. I'm just so sick and tired of being a non functional person and waiting and waiting and waiting. I'm not treating my anaplasma, Lyme like disease nor the viral disease. This is such a freakin mess. I am seeing a holistic dr. But man this sh.. is nasty horrible. I also could have other strains of the diseases I was tested for which were negative. I honestly am so sick of this crap illnesses still ruining my life. When oh when am I going to start to see some positive results and keep on getting better. Any help from anyone else who knows what to do would help me tremendously.

    • @4ngelo_
      @4ngelo_ Рік тому +2

      Is the doc helping? I'm being treated for mycotoxins but not seeing major improvements so my doc is suspecting bartonella. She is a Lyme expert named Dr. Susan Marra, perhaps she can help you.
      I hope this goes well for you, my life has collapsed from this mysterious illness and I'm so greatful to have a supportive family. I've spent years trying ot figure it out and wasted ALOT of $.
      It's so cool that you have identified something specific in your body because you can focus on getting it out now. I've attempted to treat this on my own and all I can say is seek out the correct specialist. Ask recommendations from other specialists for someone they think would be best to treat you. I emailed doctors from other states who reffered me to my current doctor. I feel like I am in good hands and wish the same for you, be well

    • @kevinfitzgerald7474
      @kevinfitzgerald7474 Рік тому +1

      @@4ngelo_ thankyou I hope you get better as well. This is the absolute worst combo of illnesses to have at once. My family is half supportive. The worst of this is from my chest up just feels like a constant hypertension and inflammation. The rest of my body has problems but the upper body is the worst. Plus i have pots. My 40s was a very bad decade of being like this.

    • @cindyre85
      @cindyre85 11 місяців тому +3

      I understand I have this too. I am so sorry you are all suffering also. My whole life has changed and no one understands. They tell me I will be fine. I can’t function like this. I need advice please
      I will try anything at this point. I have spent all my savings on Doctors but they didn’t help me they send me for nerve test and MRI’s.
      My infectious disease doctor that diagnosed me with late Lyme disease, and Bartonella does not like to answer my questions. I don’t have any support.

    • @Grace4me111
      @Grace4me111 10 місяців тому

      Woe..I could have written this...I can tell you I think I have had this for 30 plus years...I am not a doctor just someone suffering also...covid is bringing also fungal infections more prominently...so don't be like me without money or a doctor to help you. The only thing that's helped recently is having access to a spooky2 rife machine. It's finding the things which are wrong and seems to be miraculous in many ways for many people. His web site has treatment details....try to get these things he talks about...a specialist good..and this is very complicated so pay the money to get help...I don't have that kind of money so can't get help and still stuck trying to figure it out myself...Colloidal silver oregano oil and the herbs he talks about on his site are amazing if you can access them with the pharmaceuticals..look up spooky2...may change your life..good luck...I have learned God gives these sicknesss to make us pray and get closer to Him...I refuse to blame it all on evil..there has to be a purpose..and for me..I am never closer to God then when I'm suffering and crying to Him...blessings and may we all get well soon..❤

    • @doinaveres3685
      @doinaveres3685 4 місяці тому

      Look into the “healhive” my son And daughter are using bees for the Lyme and vials for the Bart. Praying that you get some relief it is a terrible disease.

  • @JC-ly8pz
    @JC-ly8pz 11 місяців тому

    I only show positive for bartonella when Im having die off from something else

  • @niccolo86
    @niccolo86 4 місяці тому

    mast cell activation?