Had my yellow no letters at 9 since 1973 high school still runs.. serviced once by seiko.. love how inner timer functions turns ..paid 88 dollars for it.. new..my dad was angry soo costly of a watch so he had friend get me one at cost... Hey dad it still works 49 years later..
Found my fathers Aussie Pogue with black dial in a drawer whilst cleaning out his stuff after he passed. The glass is broken but still runs perfectly after not being used for 20 years! Gonna get it fixed and wear it now! Great video and learnt so much! Cheers
Excellent video and content. It enabled me to be even better informed and know that the purchase I was thinking of making should be passed. Thanks for your time with development of this content!
Thank you, i have learned more from your video about what information is correct watch items history . i checked out your See more on , and was not disappointed i found a lot of answers to questions no one could help . cheers .
This video was fantastic! I learned so much about the watch I just bought. Can’t wait for it to be delivered and then watch the video again with the watch in my hand. Thank you for the video.
0:57 Both Skylab-3 astronauts Gerald Carr (Movado Datron HS360 automatic) and William Pogue (Seiko 6139-6005 automatic) wore an Automatic chronograph onboard the space station ! #MoonwatchUniverse
I have my dad's Aussie Pougue from 1969, it's a proof dial with the 6030T marking. I'm currently waiting for my servicing to get completed, but he did buy it from the Army BX either in California or overseas in Vietnam.
One of the most detailed videos of these classics I've seen on youtube, thanks for doing it. Noticed on your beautiful watches , are they re-lumed ?, Lume is one of the things I check for an aftermarket dial. If you are in the uk, anybody you recommend to work on your watches ?.......thanks again.
hi Andy - some of them are relumed, yes - but mostly original. Seikos of the 1960s and 70s don't tend to age their lume gracefully, like a tritium watch - they tend to go mouldy (look closely at the blue 6139-6000 as an example - that one probably needs a relume someday). We are starting to see aftermarket dials show up with faux aging on them - like discoloured lume and even spots on the dial... you just have to keep your wits about you. I am in the UK - there are a bunch of good watchmakers like Duncan thewatchbloke.co.uk/about-me/; check out SCWF for more advice.
I bought the yellow dial version in 1971, and the blue dial some years later, I still have both in good running order. I want however to put the original price in context, because, contrary to popular belief, these things weren't cheap. The UK retail price back in 71, a heady £45.00. At that time you could have picked up a new Breitling "Top Timer" for £29.00, a Rolex "Submariner" for £98.00, a Rolex "GMT Master" for £101.00, or a Rolex "Cosmograph" for £122.00. It's undeniably a great watch, and I love mine dearly, but in investment terms, it really has bombed!
Wow, that's an interesting comparison. If you look at the 1969 USA catalogue on www.watchhunter.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/1969-Seiko-Catalog.V2.pdf, the yellow and blue 6139s were $100 (or about $800 in today's money), whereas the 6105-8110 was only $95. I bet you wished you'd bought a few Daytonas at £122 each :D
I found one that is marked 6139 7100 and appears to be made in 1977. The dial is blue, white hands w a orange second hand. Looks to be in good condition but thought I would run it by you.
Yeah, there are lots of variants with the 6139 movement but in different case shapes and dial variations - one pretty good summary is on vintagewatchinc.com/seiko/6139-chronograph/
I'm a bit confused by the differences in text printed on the face of the watch. Mine, that was given to me as a gift in 1972, is exactly like the yellow in this video. It says Chronograph Automatic and also has the 70 meters text. I've seen watches with the Chronograph text but not the 70 meters and others with the 70 meters and just the text Automatic. Is it any logic in this?
Yes... basically the 70M PROOF/RESIST text is found on watches until mid 1972. The 6000/6001/6002 watches (blue, yellow or silver, sold in the RoW outside of Japan and US) have AUTOMATIC CHRONOGRAPH but the 6009/6007 (blue) and 6005 (blue or yellow) variants are just AUTOMATIC and were made for the Americas.
I have a question for the experts. Lets talk Seiko only. Is there any degree that an original watch can have a part that was either broken and repaired with an after market part or simply wore out and once again was not replaced with an original part but an after market part for whatever reason? Put it like this: lets say the second wheel inside our Seiko had broken a tooth and was replaced by a watch repairman on a lathe. Its obvious and aparent to any estute person that this gear is not one produced by Seiko but by someone or after market company. Is this then considered of not being 100% original and therefore worth considerably less or do we allow a single internal part not parts but one part to be accurately reproduced while still considering the watch and calling an original time piece worthy of a current collectors value? Because if you cant replace even one internal component that would never be seen while wearing the watch without having to call it now not original but having after market or custom repairs done to it would help me to then be hyper vigilant in recognizing every componant must then be original.
In good shape, they can be - some special ones are well into $1000+ category but even reasonably sorted ones will be knocking on that. Trouble is, if your watch is needing a service, that could easily cost half of what it's worth, if not more
Hi, great video.do you know if the Aussie Pogue was ever available with a French day wheel ?I know most are Roman ,but I think I’ve found a French one Thanks
I don't think the AP was - it seems to be a variant only sold in SE Asia, so it could be a Singapore Pogue as much as an Aussie, and they all seem to have Roman day wheels.
Hey, I have a 6139-6002 (1971/ Middle East). It is slightly damaged. But everything works properly and runs well. How much could I quote for the watch?
If it's original, then yes - it should be a -6000 or -6001, and the serial number would start with 9 or 0. There are lots of aftermarket PROOF dials out there though...
Had my yellow no letters at 9 since 1973 high school still runs.. serviced once by seiko.. love how inner timer functions turns ..paid 88 dollars for it.. new..my dad was angry soo costly of a watch so he had friend get me one at cost... Hey dad it still works 49 years later..
And your $88 in 1973 would be worth about $600 now; try finding a good, honest yellow Pogue for that nowadays :)
This is THE BEST video for anyone interested in 6139-600x watches!
Found my fathers Aussie Pogue with black dial in a drawer whilst cleaning out his stuff after he passed. The glass is broken but still runs perfectly after not being used for 20 years! Gonna get it fixed and wear it now! Great video and learnt so much! Cheers
Excellent video and content. It enabled me to be even better informed and know that the purchase I was thinking of making should be passed. Thanks for your time with development of this content!
Thank you, i have learned more from your video about what information is correct watch items history . i checked out your See more on , and was not disappointed i found a lot of answers to questions no one could help . cheers .
This video was fantastic! I learned so much about the watch I just bought. Can’t wait for it to be delivered and then watch the video again with the watch in my hand. Thank you for the video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
0:57 Both Skylab-3 astronauts Gerald Carr (Movado Datron HS360 automatic) and William Pogue (Seiko 6139-6005 automatic) wore an Automatic chronograph onboard the space station !
#MoonwatchUniverse
I know it's an old video, but what a wealth of information! I'm currently on the hunt for a 6139-600x and found the video super-useful.
thanks :)
Thank you the best video I've seen for 6139's I'm looking to pick one up but it's a bit of a minefield out there.
I have my dad's Aussie Pougue from 1969, it's a proof dial with the 6030T marking. I'm currently waiting for my servicing to get completed, but he did buy it from the Army BX either in California or overseas in Vietnam.
I thought in the video it said there was no Proof dials for 6030T, only 6030R?
Could you imagine a Seiko 5 today having an "automatic chronograph". It's such a luxury now.
Great guide video!
What a great video. Thanks!
Excellent sir very informative.
Very informative, I now know that mine is the Aussie version. Thanks
One of the most detailed videos of these classics I've seen on youtube, thanks for doing it. Noticed on your beautiful watches , are they re-lumed ?, Lume is one of the things I check for an aftermarket dial. If you are in the uk, anybody you recommend to work on your watches ?.......thanks again.
hi Andy - some of them are relumed, yes - but mostly original. Seikos of the 1960s and 70s don't tend to age their lume gracefully, like a tritium watch - they tend to go mouldy (look closely at the blue 6139-6000 as an example - that one probably needs a relume someday). We are starting to see aftermarket dials show up with faux aging on them - like discoloured lume and even spots on the dial... you just have to keep your wits about you.
I am in the UK - there are a bunch of good watchmakers like Duncan thewatchbloke.co.uk/about-me/; check out SCWF for more advice.
@@VintageWatchAdvisors Thanks for that
I bought the yellow dial version in 1971, and the blue dial some years later, I still have both in good running order. I want however to put the original price in context, because, contrary to popular belief, these things weren't cheap. The UK retail price back in 71, a heady £45.00. At that time you could have picked up a new Breitling "Top Timer" for £29.00, a Rolex "Submariner" for £98.00, a Rolex "GMT Master" for £101.00, or a Rolex "Cosmograph" for £122.00. It's undeniably a great watch, and I love mine dearly, but in investment terms, it really has bombed!
Wow, that's an interesting comparison. If you look at the 1969 USA catalogue on www.watchhunter.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/1969-Seiko-Catalog.V2.pdf, the yellow and blue 6139s were $100 (or about $800 in today's money), whereas the 6105-8110 was only $95.
I bet you wished you'd bought a few Daytonas at £122 each :D
@@VintageWatchAdvisors Actually, at that time you couldn't give them away!
I found one that is marked 6139 7100 and appears to be made in 1977. The dial is blue, white hands w a orange second hand. Looks to be in good condition but thought I would run it by you.
Yeah, there are lots of variants with the 6139 movement but in different case shapes and dial variations - one pretty good summary is on vintagewatchinc.com/seiko/6139-chronograph/
I've just bought a 6139-6001 with kanji day.
Didn't know they had this.
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man that gold Pepsi is definitely on my list.
Be very careful - most of the eBay yellow Pogues are all made up of aftermarket parts :(
@@VintageWatchAdvisors it will probably be one of those watches I cough up a premium for to make sure that it's legit...
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loved your stuff. can u please make a video on the Coke versions 🙄
I'm a bit confused by the differences in text printed on the face of the watch. Mine, that was given to me as a gift in 1972, is exactly like the yellow in this video. It says Chronograph Automatic and also has the 70 meters text. I've seen watches with the Chronograph text but not the 70 meters and others with the 70 meters and just the text Automatic. Is it any logic in this?
Yes... basically the 70M PROOF/RESIST text is found on watches until mid 1972. The 6000/6001/6002 watches (blue, yellow or silver, sold in the RoW outside of Japan and US) have AUTOMATIC CHRONOGRAPH but the 6009/6007 (blue) and 6005 (blue or yellow) variants are just AUTOMATIC and were made for the Americas.
thank you for your sharing.
I have a question for the experts. Lets talk Seiko only. Is there any degree that an original watch can have a part that was either broken and repaired with an after market part or simply wore out and once again was not replaced with an original part but an after market part for whatever reason? Put it like this: lets say the second wheel inside our Seiko had broken a tooth and was replaced by a watch repairman on a lathe. Its obvious and aparent to any estute person that this gear is not one produced by Seiko but by someone or after market company. Is this then considered of not being 100% original and therefore worth considerably less or do we allow a single internal part not parts but one part to be accurately reproduced while still considering the watch and calling an original time piece worthy of a current collectors value? Because if you cant replace even one internal component that would never be seen while wearing the watch without having to call it now not original but having after market or custom repairs done to it would help me to then be hyper vigilant in recognizing every componant must then be original.
I have my late fathers old Pogue in a drawer somewhere ill have to dig it out, are they worth anything?
In good shape, they can be - some special ones are well into $1000+ category but even reasonably sorted ones will be knocking on that. Trouble is, if your watch is needing a service, that could easily cost half of what it's worth, if not more
Absolutely fascinating I wonder if you could interpret mine for me if I emailed you some info. As it’s far more complex than my brain can handle.
Glad to hear I don't have cheap knock-off LOL I have the aussie pogue 6139-6002 exactly like on the video
On the R dial - silver pogue. Where does the 38 minute marker appear in the word JAPAN? between the first A and P or between the P and second A?
between the P and A - see postlmg.cc/06DpgBbb
@@VintageWatchAdvisors thanks!!
Any of these for sale?
Hi, great video.do you know if the Aussie Pogue was ever available with a French day wheel ?I know most are Roman ,but I think I’ve found a French one
Thanks
I don't think the AP was - it seems to be a variant only sold in SE Asia, so it could be a Singapore Pogue as much as an Aussie, and they all seem to have Roman day wheels.
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Hey, I have a 6139-6002 (1971/ Middle East). It is slightly damaged. But everything works properly and runs well. How much could I quote for the watch?
Depends on the colour of the dial, how much damage there is, and whether it has the correct bracelet or not. Anything from a couple of $100 to $1000+
@@VintageWatchAdvisors Thanks
I have got the golden model
Silver? Cool...
yeah, it's cool. All 3 colours are great in their own ways...
these pogues are something of a minefield
My gold pogue says proof on the dial,so i guess its an early one?
If it's original, then yes - it should be a -6000 or -6001, and the serial number would start with 9 or 0. There are lots of aftermarket PROOF dials out there though...