Too be honest that's not the first time i have heard that, Its mental how they can take something so simple and make it so complicated. Anyway i am happy that the video was useful.
Just got my Q2 a couple of days ago, and completely misunderstood the 1Zpresso grind settings charts as well. I felt that the diameter of the coffee grounds / dust for pour over coffee seemed awful fine at the maximum diameter of "24" - which I thought was simply 24 clicks, but thanks to this video, I now know that the number 24 represents two complete rotations 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, and 0, and four more whole numbers, not 24 individual hash marks (which make a click when rotating past them as well). The 1Zpresso chart for grind settings is NOT intuitive for me. They need to rewrite the grind size chart.
No problem, i am happy that the video was useful. Thanks for taking the time to check out the video. Feel free to message me if you need any help with the grinder when you get it.
thank you for this… I purchased the JE plus… I’m noticing that the recommended grind setting for espressos is much much too finely grained for pulling shots. Any recommendations? according to 1zp, espresso should be ~1.5 rotations. end result is almost flour-like
Sorry just noticed your message. Too be honest the grind reference charts for the 1Zpresso grinders are just a guide to get you started and are not 100% accurate. I have found with every 1Zpresso grinder that for Espresso i have pretty much ended up with settings at the courser grind range for what is advised, rather than the finer settings. The grind chart for the JE-Plus recommends between 22 - 32 clicks for Espresso. 22 obviously being the finest for proper Espresso using a none pressurised porta filter and 32 being for basic Espresso using a pressurised porta filter, so depending on what type of porta filter you are using, your correct grind size will be somewhere in between. So you have 10 clicks to work with. The grind size will need to be more to the slightly finer for lighter roasted beans and slightly courser for darker roasted beans. When you said "according to 1zp, espresso should be ~1.5 rotations" that's sounds like you are about one and a half rotations, that's something like 15 clicks and that's finer than Turkish grind size, that's far too fine. So (again depending on what type of Espresso porta filter you are using) start at around 3 full rotations (30 clicks) and work backwards from there if you need to.
@@mightymightyironhead Yep… you are right, that was easy. Just opened the dial a little bit and it’s pouring honey. From 1.5 rotations to 1.9. Thank you
@@jeausy too be honest i am surprised that you still need to go so fine, but if thats the number that is giving you a good shot, then thats the best number for you. Anyway happy that you got a good result.
Please, please tell me, is it possible to grind on the J-Ultra for filter coffee (Pour Over, etc.)? Or is this grinder only for espresso and has no grind settings for filter coffee at all?
Yes the J-Ultra can be used for Pour over, in fact the J-Ultra can be used for all brew types, from French press down to Turkish. The only issue that you might have with the J-Ultra if you want to use if for Pour over, is that it can create slightly more fines at the medium and course grind range because its got very fine micron adjustment (8 microns). But other than this one thing, its an excellent grinder for all brew types. If you want to go the opposite way and get a grinder that is a little less useful for Espresso, but a little better for Pour over, go for the K-Ultra (20 microns).
@@mightymightyironhead Thank you very much for your answer and for your video. I'm choosing now between X-Ultra and J-Ultra. Primarily for making espresso, but sometimes I also make filter coffee. On the 1Zpresso website, J-Ultra is positioned as exclusively for espresso (that’s why my question arose). X-Ultra is considered universal, but in my country it currently costs a little ($14) more than J-Ultra, although based on prices from the same official website, J-Ultra should be $30 more expensive. Please tell me (if you have such information) - will X-Ultra have a radically cleaner grind for filter coffee than J-Ultra?
Thanks for your videos. I thought you were in UK, but you're in the tropics too...hahaha. Greetings from Thailand. We have some great beans here too...
Hi and thanks for the positive feedback. I love Thailand and i have travelled to many places in Thailand. Yes i am from the UK (North east) but i relocated to Malaysia years ago. I agree with you, Thailand grow some very good beans now and i often order some Thai beans from my beans supplier and they are always good quality and sell well. Actually most of the SE Asian countries are now growing very decent coffee beans now. For a lot of years most of the coffee beans that were exported were mostly grown in Indonesia. Countries like Laos, Vietnam and even the Philippines were growing some coffee beans, but they were often low quality and mostly not for export. Now you have Thailand, Laos, Vietnam and the Philippines all growing pretty decent beans for export. Even Malaysia are starting to grow some decent Arabica and Robusta beans now and not just growing Liberica. Happy days for everyone.
Can I ask whether you are calibrating your 0 setting as the point where the bur starts touching or when you can't turn anymore or something else? I have been good with setting at 13 but I calibrated the 0 setting tlwhenni hear and feel the bur starting to touch each other. Love to hear your comment.
There are a couple of options for calibrating the burrs. Some people like to do that and then open the burrs again a couple of clicks so they are not touching, then they calibrate the 0 number to the starting position. I personally just turn the adjustment dial until i feel resistance and i stop there, there will still be a little more room for turning the adjustment dial and at that point i dont think that that burrs will be touching. It is important to never over tighten the adjustment dial, because they will touch and they can lock up if the adjustment dial is over tightened. I have had a few customers who have done that and the burrs are very hard to get back out. Its also worth noting that even with the burrs fully closed, you wont be grinding anything at that setting, even the Turkish grind size starts at nearly one full rotation, so if you are gentle with closing the burrs when you calibrate you really dont have to worry about them touching at any other time. If you choose, you can also close the burrs until you feel them getting slightly tight, then open them again a couple of clicks, both ways are perfect.
It depends on what grinder you have, if you have any of the Q series grinders (Q2, Q Air) or the JX, J grinders the number is fixed and can not be adjusted, so when you turn the adjustment dial and close the burrs fully, whatever number you have, you need to use that number as through it was a 0. If you have one of the other grinders that need to be calibrated and you turn the adjustment dial all the way until the burrs are fully closed (starting position) and the number you have is number 4, your grinder has not been calibrated, so you need to calibrate the grinder. If you dont know how to calibrate the grinder, go to this page and it will explain how to do that: 1zpresso.coffee/calibration/
Thought i knew what i was doing then took the grinder out of the box - Cheers for this
Too be honest that's not the first time i have heard that, Its mental how they can take something so simple and make it so complicated.
Anyway i am happy that the video was useful.
Just got my Q2 a couple of days ago, and completely misunderstood the 1Zpresso grind settings charts as well.
I felt that the diameter of the coffee grounds / dust for pour over coffee seemed awful fine at the maximum diameter of "24" - which I thought was simply 24 clicks, but thanks to this video, I now know that the number 24 represents two complete rotations 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, and 0, and four more whole numbers, not 24 individual hash marks (which make a click when rotating past them as well).
The 1Zpresso chart for grind settings is NOT intuitive for me. They need to rewrite the grind size chart.
Thanks for "De-mystifying" This grind chart! Taking a screenshot might be helpful for those (like me), who had problems with it before.
Thanks for the positive feedback. I thought that it was about time i posted a video about the grind charts. Hope that it helps.
Thanks for this! I’m getting the J grinder and never used a manual grinder before.
No problem, i am happy that the video was useful. Thanks for taking the time to check out the video.
Feel free to message me if you need any help with the grinder when you get it.
thank you for this… I purchased the JE plus… I’m noticing that the recommended grind setting for espressos is much much too finely grained for pulling shots. Any recommendations?
according to 1zp, espresso should be ~1.5 rotations. end result is almost flour-like
Sorry just noticed your message. Too be honest the grind reference charts for the 1Zpresso grinders are just a guide to get you started and are not 100% accurate.
I have found with every 1Zpresso grinder that for Espresso i have pretty much ended up with settings at the courser grind range for what is advised, rather than the finer settings.
The grind chart for the JE-Plus recommends between 22 - 32 clicks for Espresso.
22 obviously being the finest for proper Espresso using a none pressurised porta filter and 32 being for basic Espresso using a pressurised porta filter, so depending on what type of porta filter you are using, your correct grind size will be somewhere in between.
So you have 10 clicks to work with. The grind size will need to be more to the slightly finer for lighter roasted beans and slightly courser for darker roasted beans.
When you said "according to 1zp, espresso should be ~1.5 rotations" that's sounds like you are about one and a half rotations, that's something like 15 clicks and that's finer than Turkish grind size, that's far too fine.
So (again depending on what type of Espresso porta filter you are using) start at around 3 full rotations (30 clicks) and work backwards from there if you need to.
@@mightymightyironhead Yep… you are right, that was easy. Just opened the dial a little bit and it’s pouring honey. From 1.5 rotations to 1.9. Thank you
@@jeausy too be honest i am surprised that you still need to go so fine, but if thats the number that is giving you a good shot, then thats the best number for you.
Anyway happy that you got a good result.
Please, please tell me, is it possible to grind on the J-Ultra for filter coffee (Pour Over, etc.)? Or is this grinder only for espresso and has no grind settings for filter coffee at all?
Yes the J-Ultra can be used for Pour over, in fact the J-Ultra can be used for all brew types, from French press down to Turkish.
The only issue that you might have with the J-Ultra if you want to use if for Pour over, is that it can create slightly more fines at the medium and course grind range because its got very fine micron adjustment (8 microns).
But other than this one thing, its an excellent grinder for all brew types.
If you want to go the opposite way and get a grinder that is a little less useful for Espresso, but a little better for Pour over, go for the K-Ultra (20 microns).
@@mightymightyironhead Thank you very much for your answer and for your video. I'm choosing now between X-Ultra and J-Ultra. Primarily for making espresso, but sometimes I also make filter coffee. On the 1Zpresso website, J-Ultra is positioned as exclusively for espresso (that’s why my question arose). X-Ultra is considered universal, but in my country it currently costs a little ($14) more than J-Ultra, although based on prices from the same official website, J-Ultra should be $30 more expensive. Please tell me (if you have such information) - will X-Ultra have a radically cleaner grind for filter coffee than J-Ultra?
Thanks for your videos. I thought you were in UK, but you're in the tropics too...hahaha. Greetings from Thailand. We have some great beans here too...
Hi and thanks for the positive feedback. I love Thailand and i have travelled to many places in Thailand.
Yes i am from the UK (North east) but i relocated to Malaysia years ago.
I agree with you, Thailand grow some very good beans now and i often order some Thai beans from my beans supplier and they are always good quality and sell well.
Actually most of the SE Asian countries are now growing very decent coffee beans now.
For a lot of years most of the coffee beans that were exported were mostly grown in Indonesia. Countries like Laos, Vietnam and even the Philippines were growing some coffee beans, but they were often low quality and mostly not for export.
Now you have Thailand, Laos, Vietnam and the Philippines all growing pretty decent beans for export. Even Malaysia are starting to grow some decent Arabica and Robusta beans now and not just growing Liberica.
Happy days for everyone.
Can I ask whether you are calibrating your 0 setting as the point where the bur starts touching or when you can't turn anymore or something else? I have been good with setting at 13 but I calibrated the 0 setting tlwhenni hear and feel the bur starting to touch each other. Love to hear your comment.
There are a couple of options for calibrating the burrs.
Some people like to do that and then open the burrs again a couple of clicks so they are not touching, then they calibrate the 0 number to the starting position.
I personally just turn the adjustment dial until i feel resistance and i stop there, there will still be a little more room for turning the adjustment dial and at that point i dont think that that burrs will be touching.
It is important to never over tighten the adjustment dial, because they will touch and they can lock up if the adjustment dial is over tightened. I have had a few customers who have done that and the burrs are very hard to get back out.
Its also worth noting that even with the burrs fully closed, you wont be grinding anything at that setting, even the Turkish grind size starts at nearly one full rotation, so if you are gentle with closing the burrs when you calibrate you really dont have to worry about them touching at any other time.
If you choose, you can also close the burrs until you feel them getting slightly tight, then open them again a couple of clicks, both ways are perfect.
But it says that the zero doesn't have to be zero - for mine when I close it all the way till the end I end up on number 4
It depends on what grinder you have, if you have any of the Q series grinders (Q2, Q Air) or the JX, J grinders the number is fixed and can not be adjusted, so when you turn the adjustment dial and close the burrs fully, whatever number you have, you need to use that number as through it was a 0.
If you have one of the other grinders that need to be calibrated and you turn the adjustment dial all the way until the burrs are fully closed (starting position) and the number you have is number 4, your grinder has not been calibrated, so you need to calibrate the grinder.
If you dont know how to calibrate the grinder, go to this page and it will explain how to do that: 1zpresso.coffee/calibration/
thank you! 4:06