Ok, but I hope that for that price, GM has upped their quality/durability quadrant a bit, cause our last Denali XL (with a 6.0) was a turd and the Dmax I just traded in yesterday on a '16 Power Wagon ($46k, which is a lot more truck, at least mechanically) was also imploding. Ram will probably be the same way ;-)~
All season tires are garbage especially in winter conditions. Take it from a Canadian, that also builds tires for a tire manufacturer. Don't risk it, get winter tires.
yellowbe2003 Depends on if studs are legal where you live. Most of the US, studs are illegal. The only benefit of true winter tires are that they accept studs or come with them. Otherwise; they are terrible at high speeds, terrible on pavement, rot faster. Proper all seasons often outperform studless snow tires. In areas where studs are illegal, you are better off with a quality all season rather than comprimising and getting snow tires.
FCFordLord Stop spewing BS, idiot. Regular Winter tires are all nearly anyone needs for winter/snow/ice driving. Studs are not needed. And Winter tires _are_ better than all-season tires in winter driving conditions. It's the soft rubber and sipes, moron. Get educated.
The main difference I have found between 4H and 4 auto is in what happens when decelerating. In 4H, the drive train is locked together allowing compression braking front and rear. 4 auto, only keeps the front engaged when tire spin is detected, meaning in a deceleration condition it shifts out of four wheel drive leaving only the back tires to take the full load of the engine compression braking. This will often result it the rear end sliding out and loss of vehicle control. My rule is to use 4 auto only in mixed road surface conditions and 4H on roads that are completely snow packed.
William Ward A breath of fresh air... Someone who understands the different purposes for the different modes. Auto for patchy/mixed conditions where you can't leave the t-case locked lest it bind up. 4Hi for consistently low-traction surfaces.
William Ward the vehicle should only ever engine brake when you tell it to by manually downshifting. This is why vehicles coast when you let off the gas and the tac drops down to say 600 rpm until you step on the gas again.
Steven Vanheel In an auto with a lockup torque converter, it won't drop to idle when cruising with the TC locked. Coasting is also not universal to all autos. Those designed for towing or performance tend to have more engine braking built in. Silverado diesel with the Allison is an example of a towing-focused transmission with very little free coasting and a heavy engine-braking bias.
Man, I never thought of that. Makes perfect sense. I was considering trading in my 4wd Tacoma for a truck with auto 4wd for mixed conditions, now I'm thinking it may be best to stick with the 4HI in the Tacoma.
William Ward It probably has more to do with the front and rear axles being locked together, which prevents too much or too little rotation in a variety of conditions, which greatly improves stability.
Biggest issue I experienced with the auto setting on my 2011 Silverado was it felt like if you coasted around a corner in auto mode, the 4WD would disengage which would lead to it basically acting like a 2WD truck and plowing through the corner. In 4 high it definitely behaved better in that situation.
can you guys get the new z71 tahoe add see how it does off road? it looks like they removed the front chin and gave it better off road tires so can you guys do it
Love the suburban. There is a company in Florida called Duraburb Inc that swaps the duramax into any suburban making it completely "turnkey" I wish the duramax was an option from the dealer like the diesels were in the past but glad duraburb is making it happen. Good video guys!
Generic Name I grew up w the suburban and still have an 07 they're great and very rarely have problems in our experience. they are reliable up to 200k from having them since the early 80s
Cool video! I love the Conti Cross Contact as an SUV/light offroad tire but here in Austria it does NOT qualify as a snow tire and I would NEVER use it in real Winter conditions. I have Bridgestone Blizzak winter tires mounted from Nov-April (the mandatory months for snow tires here). The Conti is rated "M+S" but does not have the snowflake symbol. Real winter tires have these tiny teeth grooves.
Because people are stupid enough to keep paying the higher prices so automakers keep throwing higher prices on vehicles year after year. If people plain stopped buying they'd stop with the ridiculous price gouging.
No they are much more then a Silverado with a shell. Different frame and underpinnings, different suspension, far different interiors. Yes they are expensive, but much different from the trucks.
I kind of wish they'd do what they do in the Duramax Colorado, in making the locking transfer case via a separate button on the dash. Unless you are 100% in snow, mud or sand 4 HI is kind of worthless and will damage the vehicle if used on solid pavement. 4 Auto is quite good anyway.
I believe the intent of the 4-auto mode is for patchy icy roads. Normally, it's driving in 2wd, but shifts to 4wd when it detects slippage. Personally, I like to select either 2wd or 4wd myself instead of having a computer pop it in and out whenever it feels like it.
4 Low can still be had but it is optional. I recently purchased a 2017 Expedition for thousands less than a Suburban. The GM lots would not offer any good deals. Love the Suburban's but they have almost priced these out of reach of middle class Americans.
I have a 2011 Ram 1500 Big Horn and prefer the auto 4WD because I can get up inclines when stopped at a stop sign. In 4 high both tires tend to slip and I get nowhere. I don't have the standard axles, not the limited slip or posi. Interesting subject as I think a lot of people are battling more snow this year than the previous three or four years. I would love to see you do this again in a pickup, especially a new Ram.
I know people come from different parts of life and environments but every winter I see videos testing trucks and cars in "huge storms " and "massive amounts of snow" when for some people myself included is just what their daily commute looks like. m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154948632414874&id=129524519873 this is a video from two days ago here in buffalo , NY parts of buffalo got 2 feet 2 inches in under 6 hours.
I'm confused,you can get a 40k Silverado with the 5.3 and an 8 speed transmission but you only get a 6 speed in a 70k Suburban? That doesn't really add up for me.
RaceARoni Im guessing because the Silverado customers are mainly using it to tow stuff while suburban customers are towing people. To be honest Im with you, 30k extra and it should have a 6.6L in it!
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either you can afford or you can’t . there’s no for excuses .
70k for an SUV. When you can the equivalent Crew Cab Silverado LTZ put a topper and a carpeted bed for 45k. Unless you have 5 children, pocket the change and don’t fall victim to SUV price gauging.
I wouldnt use Continentals in that crap...Bridgestone Blizzak all the way 😎👌 I literally got a 250,000mi ‘03 Corolla LE with what felt like years of lost horsepower up a hill worse than that thanks to the Blizzaks...then when I got to the top I rescued some dude’s Ford Taurus with the shovels I had in the trunk.
This kinda misses the point of auto. If you know you need it, you just lock it in 4Hi. The "auto" mode is for mixed conditions where there are high traction areas where you don't want the t-case to bind up, but you will be transiting over slick areas where 4WD will be needed on the fly for brief periods. RTFM. C'mon guys, I expect more knowledgeable coverage than this clip.
72,000 is fuckin ridiculous smh, my parents bought a 2009 chevy avalanche brand new and it was 46,000 ltz version ik the suburban is a lil more but damn smh
auto would be for roads where it's patchy snow. you really shouldn't run 4hi on pavement so the auto would help with that. in this situation I'd just put it in 4hi.
I'm confused. I stumble across youtube channels constantly which are obviously US based but the people talking have weird accents as if they are not from the US or another English speaking country.
Fun timing as we are getting snow right now in Va and it's the first snow since I purchased my 2013 sierra almost a year ago. Used auto for the first time last night. Never had a vehicle with that before or traction control.
Those tires look lethal for that kind of weather :S Getting going is one thing, but stopping again is another matter! Would have thought that people living in areas that get regular snow had a set of proper snow tires for winter use?
Same here in Norway, but we only run the OEM tires for summer use, and buy a second set of rims and tires for winter use :) The difference between all season tires, or even mud+snow rated off road tires, and proper winter tires is much larger than most people think. Edit: I run Nokian Hakka 8 studded tires on my truck, and Hakka 7's on my girlfriends Miata. Studded tires are another huge leap above even proper friction tires, but of course they aren't legal everywhere. Had Nokian Hakka R SUV's on my previous truck, those were pretty good but for a heavy vehicle there really is no substitute for studded tires :)
Viking84 I have those same tires on my Toyota Highlander with the 4cyl and 4wd. They are all season and are very good on the road when it's not snowing. Plus i never get stuck with them in the snow, btw I live in Massachusetts
I'm guessing some of the difference depends on how often you have to drive on snow. Where I live we have ice and snow on the roads for 3 to 4 months of the year. We therefore drive the same distances (and speeds for the most part) in all conditions - so it's not about getting stuck, but about being able to safely do 50mph on snow covered back roads every day of the year :) If you only get snow once or twice a year you can just drive slowly (or not at all) that day and you will be fine ;) After the first snow fall this year I tested my truck on the tires I use during summer, M+S rated General Grabber AT2's. They are snow flake rated, but they were completely useless on anything but fresh deep snow. Ice was down right dangerous. I didn't get stuck, but I couldn't do more than 20 mph without needing a loooooooong time to stop again, not to mention the poor handling in corners.
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The key to using one set of tires is looking at snow flake rated tires ONLY. And even those are dangerous sometimes. I currently run BFG Urban Terrain T/A, which is a new snow flake rated light-AT tire and they are absolutely fantastic. I have direct comparison with winter tires and these BFGs are only marginally worse, if at all. The all-weather industry has progressed a lot, there is no denial. Take a look at tire test from Germany, for example (AutoBild magazine). Some of the all-weathr tires are unbelievably good.
Andre is Funny, I like his Russian snow hat. I want one. That being said. Suburban is cool but only problem is you can't get the new ones with a diesel and a stripped down version with out the power windows, power door locks, cruise and A/C and you can't get Barn doors in the rear. I remember when you could get a plain jane Suburban with out all the power features and when a rear seat was an option.
slightly off-topic, but an i the only one who did a double take at that MSRP?! i guess i did already know the price of a Suburban, but to see it written out, wow. $72k for this thing.
Why are the wheel wells bare naked? looks to be prone to rust out Winter driving is all about how fast you can stop and very little to do with how fast you can go.
Currently shopping for snow worthy a vehicle to replace my Jeep Grand Cherokee. I live in rural northern Illinois and the plows can’t keep up. Considering a Tahoe, so this is close. 😁
School is actually shut down for this? In AB Canada schools don't shut down. The only way some kids get out of it is when temps drop below -40c and the buses can't run lol.
So many people who cannot afford these are compliant but here’s a fun fact Chevrolet sells more fully loaded LTZ suburban than any other trim so obviously it’s a appropriate price. I see tons of them picking up kids everyday people have the money and want to spend it on something big.
Of course you only want mechanical four-wheel drive when you are on slippery surfaces. To engage a mechanical manual four-wheel drive system on dry pavement will result in a hefty repair bill.
What is the braking distance on snow in all those 4WD modes you tested? Racing to the third telephone pole is cool, how about when you are carrying all of that energy in a 4K pound vehicle and you need to stop? Yep, you guys are the reason overconfident idiots get out in the snow and park their trucks in a ditch for a day. Keeps the tow companies in business though, so I guess that's something.
All Seasons on snow on this APC of a SUV... Jesus. You do realise that you also need to stop and steer? Plus testing snow traction and 4WD performance on suboptimal tires seems a little bit pointless to me.
America: it snowed for 5 mins let's shut down all of the schools. Canada: fuck the snow let's make the kids come to school and not clean any of it around or inside the property... Smh
wow i just cant believe the prices on trucks now. think i will stick with my resto mod trucks and old jeeps. hold their value and put a smile on my face. 70k for what looks like an appliance? no thank you.
can you guys do a real awd vs 4wd comparison? You have the perfect opportunity in the Tahoe vs Escalade or Suburban vs Escalade ESV. Same platforms, similar drivetrains, similar all season tires, different drive system and computer calibration.
Put some sand bag in the back to weight it down it help my rav4 awd from sliding my 03 Tundra limited love the snow never got stuck on me once I use 4hi didn’t even have to use 4low in a foot of snow was sliding a little but keep on moving
issue with suburbans is ice, back end tends to fishtail even at safe speeds if you have to drive on slippery surfaces doesnt matter the type of 4x4. suburban is too long and weighty to be a great winter auto.
they should work on their acting they make me think this is all fake reviews and just say good things to make money kinda like a sponsor that or this show is all scripted and that new guy is not making it any better
Agreed i will stick with my ls3 swapped 09 crew cab LTZ silverado that i bought new for $28000. Im going to drive it til the wheels fall off to avoid these new truck prices
Wow, 70k plus now and all they give you is a 5.3? Sad times.
5.3 is most common option even in that truck.
you can get a 6.2 too
Don Leamon i wouldn't complain about the price because around 70k is the base price for a expedition
Ok, but I hope that for that price, GM has upped their quality/durability quadrant a bit, cause our last Denali XL (with a 6.0) was a turd and the Dmax I just traded in yesterday on a '16 Power Wagon ($46k, which is a lot more truck, at least mechanically) was also imploding. Ram will probably be the same way ;-)~
2017 zl1 camaro/2017 camaro fan noooo not true at all, if you spec it out it goes up to 70k + but base price is 50k or less.
All season tires are garbage especially in winter conditions. Take it from a Canadian, that also builds tires for a tire manufacturer. Don't risk it, get winter tires.
yellowbe2003 on top of that, continental tires suck ass big time. Had those on my expedition and they were total junk!
Mr223wssm oh really, i believe it. They were probably alright in the summer on pavement though? But other than that.....👎😠
yellowbe2003 Depends on if studs are legal where you live. Most of the US, studs are illegal. The only benefit of true winter tires are that they accept studs or come with them.
Otherwise; they are terrible at high speeds, terrible on pavement, rot faster.
Proper all seasons often outperform studless snow tires. In areas where studs are illegal, you are better off with a quality all season rather than comprimising and getting snow tires.
Unless you are running Michelin LTX Defenders M/S - amazing tires and they do awesome in snow.
FCFordLord
Stop spewing BS, idiot. Regular Winter tires are all nearly anyone needs for winter/snow/ice driving.
Studs are not needed. And Winter tires _are_ better than all-season tires in winter driving conditions. It's the soft rubber and sipes, moron. Get educated.
The main difference I have found between 4H and 4 auto is in what happens when decelerating. In 4H, the drive train is locked together allowing compression braking front and rear. 4 auto, only keeps the front engaged when tire spin is detected, meaning in a deceleration condition it shifts out of four wheel drive leaving only the back tires to take the full load of the engine compression braking. This will often result it the rear end sliding out and loss of vehicle control. My rule is to use 4 auto only in mixed road surface conditions and 4H on roads that are completely snow packed.
William Ward A breath of fresh air... Someone who understands the different purposes for the different modes. Auto for patchy/mixed conditions where you can't leave the t-case locked lest it bind up. 4Hi for consistently low-traction surfaces.
William Ward the vehicle should only ever engine brake when you tell it to by manually downshifting. This is why vehicles coast when you let off the gas and the tac drops down to say 600 rpm until you step on the gas again.
Steven Vanheel In an auto with a lockup torque converter, it won't drop to idle when cruising with the TC locked. Coasting is also not universal to all autos. Those designed for towing or performance tend to have more engine braking built in. Silverado diesel with the Allison is an example of a towing-focused transmission with very little free coasting and a heavy engine-braking bias.
Man, I never thought of that. Makes perfect sense. I was considering trading in my 4wd Tacoma for a truck with auto 4wd for mixed conditions, now I'm thinking it may be best to stick with the 4HI in the Tacoma.
William Ward It probably has more to do with the front and rear axles being locked together, which prevents too much or too little rotation in a variety of conditions, which greatly improves stability.
here come all of the triggered haters
I'm pretty sure that Andre's cold weather prep should just be a ton of vodka.
Biggest issue I experienced with the auto setting on my 2011 Silverado was it felt like if you coasted around a corner in auto mode, the 4WD would disengage which would lead to it basically acting like a 2WD truck and plowing through the corner. In 4 high it definitely behaved better in that situation.
can you guys get the new z71 tahoe add see how it does off road? it looks like they removed the front chin and gave it better off road tires so can you guys do it
+2017 zl1 camaro/2017 camaro fan We will try.
The Fast Lane Truck ok
I noticed that the 4wd knob did not have a 4-Low selection. What's going on there?
+Michael Miller Yes, different 4x4 system in the Suburban.
The Fast Lane Truck is it possible to get a suburban or a Tahoe with 4-low anymore?
I believe thats a z71 option.
Michael Miller 4-Low available with Heavy duty trailering package. Got it in my suburban.
I am pretty sure that means there is no 4-low for this vehicle. But, I could be wrong.
Love the suburban. There is a company in Florida called Duraburb Inc that swaps the duramax into any suburban making it completely "turnkey" I wish the duramax was an option from the dealer like the diesels were in the past but glad duraburb is making it happen. Good video guys!
Kyle Riegle reminds me of the old Ford excursions with the 7.3l diesel.
Kyle Riegle the suburban is one of the least reliable vehicles made... And I like Chevy.
Generic Name I grew up w the suburban and still have an 07 they're great and very rarely have problems in our experience. they are reliable up to 200k from having them since the early 80s
Kyle Riegle you'd think that would be a factory option...hell it was before right
Mel Laknanurak they make a 2500 now if you go to their fleet vehicle site
It costs over 70,000 dollars and it doesn't even come with 4 low. But at least it comes with the nifty secret compartment!
You get a 4 low range if you order the upgraded trailer tow package.
Or request g80 option automatic locking diff
my 2010 has all 4x4 modes
These father and son seems like best friends, so great to see. Two geeks doing what they love with who they love...so awesome!!!!
Pretty sure All Seasons are not winter tires.
Cool video! I love the Conti Cross Contact as an SUV/light offroad tire but here in Austria it does NOT qualify as a snow tire and I would NEVER use it in real Winter conditions. I have Bridgestone Blizzak winter tires mounted from Nov-April (the mandatory months for snow tires here). The Conti is rated "M+S" but does not have the snowflake symbol. Real winter tires have these tiny teeth grooves.
Why on Earth are suburbans so expensive?? Aren't they basically a sliverado with extra seats and a camper shell?
Because people are stupid enough to keep paying the higher prices so automakers keep throwing higher prices on vehicles year after year. If people plain stopped buying they'd stop with the ridiculous price gouging.
William Todd, sad but totally agree.
No they are much more then a Silverado with a shell. Different frame and underpinnings, different suspension, far different interiors. Yes they are expensive, but much different from the trucks.
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@@phillcolborne You are wrong about the frames being different. I agree with the other points.
$70,000 for a SUV? Nah I'm good
If there is a pavement, you use 4 auto to keep it from binding, if there is a slick surface you use 4hi. It just locks the transfer case
I kind of wish they'd do what they do in the Duramax Colorado, in making the locking transfer case via a separate button on the dash. Unless you are 100% in snow, mud or sand 4 HI is kind of worthless and will damage the vehicle if used on solid pavement. 4 Auto is quite good anyway.
Scott Wilkins you get it in the Canyon.
Can you explain 4 Auto more?
Alisha it is a rear wheel drive biased system that. When it detects slipping it sends power to the front.
Alisha it's like All wheel drive
I believe the intent of the 4-auto mode is for patchy icy roads. Normally, it's driving in 2wd, but shifts to 4wd when it detects slippage. Personally, I like to select either 2wd or 4wd myself instead of having a computer pop it in and out whenever it feels like it.
Keep the suburban videos coming! Ike gauntlet please !!!
F-150 KING OF TRUCKS how eo you know? dont answer me because is a chevy
My 94 suburban could do that
Interesting topic and content, gay ass intro
4 Low can still be had but it is optional. I recently purchased a 2017 Expedition for thousands less than a Suburban. The GM lots would not offer any good deals. Love the Suburban's but they have almost priced these out of reach of middle class Americans.
guys you should use winter tires really
$72,000 MSRP!? Who the fuck is buying these and why?
Jeff Beck I know right, some people have more money than brains and there's a sucker born every minute lol
They are a better deal than any other full-size SUV in the world. That's why GM owns this segment.
Great compartment for weed in the end there lol
You should do a hummer h2 vs suburban 4x4
At the end he said my favorite feature of the all new silverado😂
$72k vehicle and you are too lazy to properly clean the snow off. Typical.
WTF 72 grand for a 350 HP engine, what a fucking joke
I have a 2011 Ram 1500 Big Horn and prefer the auto 4WD because I can get up inclines when stopped at a stop sign. In 4 high both tires tend to slip and I get nowhere. I don't have the standard axles, not the limited slip or posi. Interesting subject as I think a lot of people are battling more snow this year than the previous three or four years. I would love to see you do this again in a pickup, especially a new Ram.
That is one of the reasons I bought a Silverado--got to love that auto-locking rear axle.
I know people come from different parts of life and environments but every winter I see videos testing trucks and cars in "huge storms " and "massive amounts of snow" when for some people myself included is just what their daily commute looks like.
m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154948632414874&id=129524519873
this is a video from two days ago here in buffalo , NY parts of buffalo got 2 feet 2 inches in under 6 hours.
Tommy, tut tut. No shame in calling Roman your dad. He seems like a great dad :)
Fun video, thanks guys!
The ending made me feel like I was watching a kid's show lol
$71,000 for a Suburban is one of the many reasons I lost interest in GM a long time ago. When I was 16, Suburbans cost barely $24,000! $71k? NO way!!
Remember when suburbans were affordable?
Tanner874 no lol
they still are buy them used
I'm confused,you can get a 40k Silverado with the 5.3 and an 8 speed transmission but you only get a 6 speed in a 70k Suburban? That doesn't really add up for me.
RaceARoni Im guessing because the Silverado customers are mainly using it to tow stuff while suburban customers are towing people. To be honest Im with you, 30k extra and it should have a 6.6L in it!
either you can afford or you can’t . there’s no for excuses .
That's sticker . Da hell u wanna pay sticker
70k for an SUV. When you can the equivalent Crew Cab Silverado LTZ put a topper and a carpeted bed for 45k. Unless you have 5 children, pocket the change and don’t fall victim to SUV price gauging.
I wouldnt use Continentals in that crap...Bridgestone Blizzak all the way 😎👌 I literally got a 250,000mi ‘03 Corolla LE with what felt like years of lost horsepower up a hill worse than that thanks to the Blizzaks...then when I got to the top I rescued some dude’s Ford Taurus with the shovels I had in the trunk.
This kinda misses the point of auto. If you know you need it, you just lock it in 4Hi. The "auto" mode is for mixed conditions where there are high traction areas where you don't want the t-case to bind up, but you will be transiting over slick areas where 4WD will be needed on the fly for brief periods. RTFM. C'mon guys, I expect more knowledgeable coverage than this clip.
I remember when I bought a brand new Suburban. It cost a little over 30K.........Of course that was a long time ago.........
Tommy always has fun and keeps is fast pace!! Love it! Tommy rocks again!!
72,000 is fuckin ridiculous smh, my parents bought a 2009 chevy avalanche brand new and it was 46,000 ltz version ik the suburban is a lil more but damn smh
I can't fathom paying $72K for a Chevrolet Suburban. That's Mercedes, Audi, Land Rover money!
auto would be for roads where it's patchy snow. you really shouldn't run 4hi on pavement so the auto would help with that. in this situation I'd just put it in 4hi.
I'm confused. I stumble across youtube channels constantly which are obviously US based but the people talking have weird accents as if they are not from the US or another English speaking country.
Kid seems totally out of place, maybe reviewing video games or hot pockets, but trucks?....... it brought the video clip to an amateur level.
Fun timing as we are getting snow right now in Va and it's the first snow since I purchased my 2013 sierra almost a year ago. Used auto for the first time last night. Never had a vehicle with that before or traction control.
That is not snow.... come to Norway and see snow for real...Those tyres are rated as summer tyres here 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I bet I could bet ALL of those times 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love these kinds of videos, great job boys
+Emeka Ossai Thanks!
Those tires look lethal for that kind of weather :S Getting going is one thing, but stopping again is another matter! Would have thought that people living in areas that get regular snow had a set of proper snow tires for winter use?
Most manufactures put tires on that are just good enough to get you off the lot when you buy the vehicle. Those Conti's are actually a step up.
Same here in Norway, but we only run the OEM tires for summer use, and buy a second set of rims and tires for winter use :) The difference between all season tires, or even mud+snow rated off road tires, and proper winter tires is much larger than most people think.
Edit: I run Nokian Hakka 8 studded tires on my truck, and Hakka 7's on my girlfriends Miata. Studded tires are another huge leap above even proper friction tires, but of course they aren't legal everywhere. Had Nokian Hakka R SUV's on my previous truck, those were pretty good but for a heavy vehicle there really is no substitute for studded tires :)
Viking84 I have those same tires on my Toyota Highlander with the 4cyl and 4wd. They are all season and are very good on the road when it's not snowing. Plus i never get stuck with them in the snow, btw I live in Massachusetts
I'm guessing some of the difference depends on how often you have to drive on snow. Where I live we have ice and snow on the roads for 3 to 4 months of the year. We therefore drive the same distances (and speeds for the most part) in all conditions - so it's not about getting stuck, but about being able to safely do 50mph on snow covered back roads every day of the year :)
If you only get snow once or twice a year you can just drive slowly (or not at all) that day and you will be fine ;) After the first snow fall this year I tested my truck on the tires I use during summer, M+S rated General Grabber AT2's. They are snow flake rated, but they were completely useless on anything but fresh deep snow. Ice was down right dangerous. I didn't get stuck, but I couldn't do more than 20 mph without needing a loooooooong time to stop again, not to mention the poor handling in corners.
The key to using one set of tires is looking at snow flake rated tires ONLY. And even those are dangerous sometimes.
I currently run BFG Urban Terrain T/A, which is a new snow flake rated light-AT tire and they are absolutely fantastic. I have direct comparison with winter tires and these BFGs are only marginally worse, if at all.
The all-weather industry has progressed a lot, there is no denial. Take a look at tire test from Germany, for example (AutoBild magazine). Some of the all-weathr tires are unbelievably good.
Andre is Funny, I like his Russian snow hat. I want one. That being said. Suburban is cool but only problem is you can't get the new ones with a diesel and a stripped down version with out the power windows, power door locks, cruise and A/C and you can't get Barn doors in the rear. I remember when you could get a plain jane Suburban with out all the power features and when a rear seat was an option.
slightly off-topic, but an i the only one who did a double take at that MSRP?! i guess i did already know the price of a Suburban, but to see it written out, wow. $72k for this thing.
Why are the wheel wells bare naked? looks to be prone to rust out
Winter driving is all about how fast you can stop and very little to do with how fast you can go.
Currently shopping for snow worthy a vehicle to replace my Jeep Grand Cherokee. I live in rural northern Illinois and the plows can’t keep up. Considering a Tahoe, so this is close. 😁
School is actually shut down for this? In AB Canada schools don't shut down. The only way some kids get out of it is when temps drop below -40c and the buses can't run lol.
So many people who cannot afford these are compliant but here’s a fun fact Chevrolet sells more fully loaded LTZ suburban than any other trim so obviously it’s a appropriate price. I see tons of them picking up kids everyday people have the money and want to spend it on something big.
Of course you only want mechanical four-wheel drive when you are on slippery surfaces. To engage a mechanical manual four-wheel drive system on dry pavement will result in a hefty repair bill.
What is the braking distance on snow in all those 4WD modes you tested? Racing to the third telephone pole is cool, how about when you are carrying all of that energy in a 4K pound vehicle and you need to stop? Yep, you guys are the reason overconfident idiots get out in the snow and park their trucks in a ditch for a day. Keeps the tow companies in business though, so I guess that's something.
I'd say again, tires are everything.
i wonder why that "secret compartment" is tommy's favorite?? weed is legal in CO now....
an extra 10-14k can get you a landcruiser lol. in 15 years these will be all over Craigslist going for 8 grand lol
All Seasons on snow on this APC of a SUV... Jesus. You do realise that you also need to stop and steer? Plus testing snow traction and 4WD performance on suboptimal tires seems a little bit pointless to me.
The Fast Lane Truck You should have snow tires instead of those all season tires on it I have had 4WD Suburbans through 3ft snow drifts.
America: it snowed for 5 mins let's shut down all of the schools.
Canada: fuck the snow let's make the kids come to school and not clean any of it around or inside the property... Smh
I wish they still made a 3/4 ton suburban with the 8.1
wow i just cant believe the prices on trucks now. think i will stick with my resto mod trucks and old jeeps. hold their value and put a smile on my face. 70k for what looks like an appliance? no thank you.
can you guys do a real awd vs 4wd comparison? You have the perfect opportunity in the Tahoe vs Escalade or Suburban vs Escalade ESV. Same platforms, similar drivetrains, similar all season tires, different drive system and computer calibration.
Put some sand bag in the back to weight it down it help my rav4 awd from sliding my 03 Tundra limited love the snow never got stuck on me once I use 4hi didn’t even have to use 4low in a foot of snow was sliding a little but keep on moving
Are you ready for this......Uhhhh I Am Not! 😂 😂 😂
Летняя резина, дорога сухая, льда судя по всему там нет. Чем американцы занимаются? Такое чувство, что для них "шторм" это пара снежинок на стекле.
issue with suburbans is ice, back end tends to fishtail even at safe speeds if you have to drive on slippery surfaces doesnt matter the type of 4x4. suburban is too long and weighty to be a great winter auto.
they should work on their acting they make me think this is all fake reviews and just say good things to make money kinda like a sponsor that or this show is all scripted and that new guy is not making it any better
You need winter tires period!
I would like to see what the difference would be in acceleration if you change your car tires to Nokia Hakkapeliitta series tires
You guys should take a suburban, Yukon XL, and an Escalade esv and tell us which one is worth our money
Wait this bs cost 70000???? hahhaha are they crazy for that can buy extra car German or Italian,French anything is better than american car
why put all your cold weather gear on and scrape your car when you could have just warmed it up for 20 minutes?
Must be the ugliest SUV I've ever seen... The wheels are super small. Why??
dont make design sharp dont make seat hard, dont make asia car style ugly
Good job guys. I assumed Auto mode would be most useful for pavement on days when the snow or ice are patchy.
only one power option? for that kinda money.....
4 high only good up to limited speed ..ie 85km? Does auto have the same limitations in speed?
4 auto is better for snowt conditions cuz it will give you better grip while turning and in basic city driving
if u really wanna a reliable truck that takes u everywhere take a Japanese truck nissan patrol or toyota land cruiser
For 71,000 why doesn’t it have 4 low??
My bare bones ram 1500 would beat that
the worst winter tires in the market are better then any all season tires in the market for snow driving.
I loved the suburban 👌
$72k? Better money spent else where.
Van Kham, 80% of these you see on the road are leased. Mainstream vehicles are not a good investment.
Austin H, Good point, never thought of that. 👍
Swap out the crappy govloc rear and put in a truetrac and really grab that snow and go..
That traction control is terrible.
How is it a secret cubby if everyone and their mom talks about it on youtube?
Bloated overpriced, and underpowered.
Why I moved from Detroit to Nashville!
this tommy kid is horrible i love yalls videos but tommy makes me not want to watch
cant stand that music. not watching. why do you feel the need to force that music on us
Fun video, makes boring facts fun
$72,000 for a Suburban?! One with only the 5.3 and a 6-speed?! Loved my last Beast-of-Burbon, but that is down payment territory for a new home.
A tried-and-true engine and transmission combination. Do we really need 10-speeds? The benefits are minimal.
Not very scientific, but a lot of real world fun!!!
The price of new trucks is just crazy. Who wants an 80k truck?
Mark Jones the market apparently ,
For rich people
I do.
Agreed i will stick with my ls3 swapped 09 crew cab LTZ silverado that i bought new for $28000. Im going to drive it til the wheels fall off to avoid these new truck prices
75k+ luxury trucks are growing in popularity. No one wants luxury sedans anymore.
А вы купаетесь летом в лыжах?Или в коньках? с какой целью на летней резине?