The fact they cut the rail line running into Northfield 🤦♂🤦♂ ... look at the grid lock of traffic along main north road .... I mean they could have even just added it as an O-bahn extension with all that spare land allotment! Absolute long term incompetence of several generations of state governments / transport ministers!
This is a great video, love you showing all the railways that once were in Adelaide, wished they all stayed to present day, but Government was more focused on having more road vehicles than rail, the same happened with Adelaide's old tramways (you know, that would make a good video too, to show tram history of Adelaide). Love the music too, but I feel like you should've expanded a bit more outside of Adelaide, not too far, more so like the Morgan railway line (which I noticed was west of the Gawler line in your video but never mentioned), the Barossa Railway line and also the line down south to Victor Harbour as these lines were also passenger services from Adelaide. But overall a very informative video, would love to see more like this soon. :)
Thank you, I see you're interested in mlp that's cool. :) Yeah wasn't sure what counted as regional or suburban for the history of Adelaide railway network. But yeah I know by the research it had larger network than it has today. Yeah I'd love to do more videos soon, feel free to subscribe, like and do all that to help the channel. Thanks for the insightful comment, appreciate any feedback so I can improve as a creator.
Some facts about the railway, the Grange railway line actually terminated at an another Grange station until 1986 which was located at the eastern side of Military Road. It was cut back to the Grange we have now. Finsbury railway line was a long railway that actually ran towards Gillman near the other line from Dry Creek to Port Adelaide. Gawler Central was actually called North Gawler until 1984. You could also do a regional railway network map of S.A including the railways to Morgan, Angaston, Balaklava, Moonta, Barmera, Waikeire, Mount Gambier, Sedan, Mount Pleasant and Victor Harbor. Good explanation.
It's a great historical video about Adelaide's train network. Overall, I'm impressed with the concise and simple presentation of this video. It's also easy to read the historical contents while being historically accurate. 👍👍👍
It's a shame because adelaide once had a vast rail network comparable to many other major cities, but we are entering a time of rail revival within the city. Ridership is increasing, grade separations are occurring, station upgrades are happening and more lines are being proposed, such as the Port dock branch line and the underground rail loop which are both on the table after electrification of the Gawler lines is completed. Adelaide railway station is also being upgraded, its an exciting time for trains in adelaide
@@TrueBelievers as someone that grew up in Adelaide but now lives in NSW, I would love to see a regional network reintroduced to SA, the Belair Line extended back into the hills, a new train/tram line to the airport or even a new line in the eastern suburbs. But of course, they would either not happen ever, or would take years to do so, as it cost an insane amount of money and a lot of planning, time and effort would need to be put into these projects if they were to ever go ahead. Awesome video btw 👍
@@TrueBelievers a little? I would say it is way behind, compared to NSW where I live, where we have trains heading pretty much anywhere in Sydney and most of regional NSW
@@trainco1643 Yeah I'm giving it a bit more leniency, due to smaller population, growth and economic status. But I agree Sydney is way ahead of the others greatly, even beating Melbourne in some aspects.
I miss that old railway line :( rip willunga, Penfield 3, GMH Elizabeth, Bridgewater, Semaphore and others :(... you should add station because Torrens bridge was added on outer harbour and the first railway station to close :/ :(
Great vid mate! However you should've greyscaled the background map and extend the map coverage further west to display the extensions on the western extent of the map
This randomly came up on my feed today, seemed worth a watch. Regarding the Finsbury Line, there's very little info out there but if you'd dug a bit deeper you'd find it wasn't a lone spur but in fact continued on over Grand Junction Road and connected with the Port Dock-Dry Creek Line. It ran parellel with Glenroy St and then over Grand Junction; if you go on Google Maps on satellite view you can still see the cut through suburbia in Ottoway where the line used to go.
It was a good narration, how could you exactly animate lines like this in DAVINCI Resolve 18 with them showing as opening and closing lines, please tell me ?
Good work! You have some found some obscure lines that are easy to miss: e.g. Jubilee Exhibition, Sleep's Hill deviation, GMH, original line to Semaphore. I'm fairly sure Largs Jetty had passenger services 1882 to 1908, and there might have been passenger services on the tracks around Osbourne. But it's possible none of these were advertised as regular services.
Unfortunately, the motoring lobby and automotive industries were responsible for the destruction of public transport around the world. Australian and American cities were extremely unlucky for the heavy reliance on the single occupant car. The media hypes too much about electric cars; in the end of the day, cars are still a closed circular metal cage for moving just 1 person mostly for practical reasons. Electric cars only change the propulsion method and will do nothing to reduce road congestion. In the old days, public transport was operated by private companies with trams and trains. These private companies were very greedy and monopolistic. Many capitalists of transport companies (of trams and trains) are ruthless and only cared about profit even if the service was excessively overcrowded or extremely slow. In the same city, several private operators built railway lines in direct close competition with each other. Sadly, these greedy capitalists in the 1800's - 1900's give public transport a very bad name. Motoring lobbies and automotive industries often exploit the monopolistic ideological nature of public transport for their own profiteering automotive agenda. When cars became extremely popular in America then Australia, they have done lots of destruction. Public transport is very important too and must never be ignored. However, the practice of public transport needs to be cost effective and a transparent process without any interference from bureaucracy or greedy private monopolies.
@@michaeleverett1479 Awesome summary there. Yeah since the 2010s though particular in Australia, there has been a boom in public transportation usage, which in turn has gotten attention to rebuilding public transport once again. Although the cities with a struggling economy generally can't able to make the transfer to investing back to public transport due to the lack of patronage growth needed to push for upgrades. Adelaide and Hobart are definitely in this category. Meanwhile, the cities that have boomed economically generally push for major transit projects, such as Melbourne and Sydney.
@@TrueBelievers, I would like to see Adelaide's public transport improved with a multimodal network of frequent buses in a grid connecting to existing train services. Adelaide has a grid road network where buses can run frequently on straight lines on the arterial roads. More trains have to be brought and modifications of existing train platforms to cope with increased passenger demand from the redesigned bus network. Each train station in Adelaide should have bicycle cages (bike n ride), turnstiles (validators), ticket machines (before the turnstiles), adequate security and restrooms.
Awesome! Noted that we used to be able to take the train to Upper Sturt on the way to Bridgewater..and yet all the other long routes still operate to the shitty suburbs..unreal..God forbid you'd like a nice day out 😂
Yeah that's true I'm aware of it, but wasn't significant enough to really add into the video as it really was used for freights to turn around mostly to the port. Good point though.
Interesting to see that the Flinders Link was actually built, was built mainly for the Chrysler/Mitsubishi plant as far as i know, It's just a single track branch from the now Seaford Line which i didn't know extended out to Willunga. the Gawler line is currently being electrified as far as salisbury i believe part of stage 1, stage 2 will see the remainder of the line converted, there is also a proposal to convert the Outer Harbor/Grange lines to light rail as part of the port link with trams terminating at Outer Harbour, Semaphore, Grange and West Lakes also proposed are a number of other tram routes which more info can be found here www.infrastructureaustralia.gov.au/map/adelink-tram-network-adelaide-tram-network-expansion, no word on the belair line, sleeper replacement happened over a decade ago and the goodwood overpass happened a while ago aswell and there is also the possible extension from seaford to aldinga
@@MarkHenstridge yeah they need to focus on the CBD Rail tunnel Seaford to Gawler, flinders to Outer Harbour and have grange terminate at Woodville, Convert Belair line to standard gauge to have 2 tracks through the corridors and potentially extend the service back to bridgewater
@@jamieknight5345 The line from Belair should be extended to Mt Barker! The argument was that it would take too long and I agree with that statement if will still had the Redhens as our commuter trains. Now that we have electric trains with more power it makes sense to re-open this line. At the moment relying on cars and buses and the congestion on roads in peak hours is insane, a truly progressive city would have a rail to the outer suburb. There still is a role for buses(I am a former hills bus driver, Transitplus), they can act as a feeder service to connect with train departures at Mt Barker, Balhanah, Bridgewater, Mt Lofty, Belair, and Blackwood then non stop to the CBD...But this is Adelaide, we would need the likes of a progressive Premier like in the "Dunstan" era.
@@MarkHenstridge Even with a Jumbo I feel like that argument would be valid but yes with Class 4000s with modified seating larger more longer distance seating and yes express from Belair to North Tce would be a great service would leave it there tho, re instating the alignment to Victor Harbor would be a waste of money there are better options for public Transport on the south coast which might be extending the Seaford line to Sellicks Beach and having the LinkSA busses terminate there or having a public regional bus operator for shorter distance routes from Railway stations to destination, I currently live in Brisbane and they have a much better bus-train connections although not perfect Adelaide on the other hand has so many City bound busses where they could easily have shorter routes and have them better connect with the greater suburban rail network
i sorry your Adelaide Sout australia history on rail line is not correct missing few old line 1 out of smithfield to magazine area and 1 salisbury WRE raaf base ,but still enjoyable nice if correct lack facts ,
correction -The finsbury line ran all the way to Gillman to the Dry Creek to port Dock line and rosewater loop
I didn't know that before did it operate any passenger trains via that route?
it was more of a siding, although i think it did, definetly.
The fact they cut the rail line running into Northfield 🤦♂🤦♂ ... look at the grid lock of traffic along main north road .... I mean they could have even just added it as an O-bahn extension with all that spare land allotment! Absolute long term incompetence of several generations of state governments / transport ministers!
This is a great video, love you showing all the railways that once were in Adelaide, wished they all stayed to present day, but Government was more focused on having more road vehicles than rail, the same happened with Adelaide's old tramways (you know, that would make a good video too, to show tram history of Adelaide). Love the music too, but I feel like you should've expanded a bit more outside of Adelaide, not too far, more so like the Morgan railway line (which I noticed was west of the Gawler line in your video but never mentioned), the Barossa Railway line and also the line down south to Victor Harbour as these lines were also passenger services from Adelaide. But overall a very informative video, would love to see more like this soon. :)
Thank you, I see you're interested in mlp that's cool. :) Yeah wasn't sure what counted as regional or suburban for the history of Adelaide railway network. But yeah I know by the research it had larger network than it has today. Yeah I'd love to do more videos soon, feel free to subscribe, like and do all that to help the channel. Thanks for the insightful comment, appreciate any feedback so I can improve as a creator.
You have the Penfield line cut back in 1986. It was definitely still running in 1987-88 as I took it to work at DSTO.
Some facts about the railway, the Grange railway line actually terminated at an another Grange station until 1986 which was located at the eastern side of Military Road. It was cut back to the Grange we have now. Finsbury railway line was a long railway that actually ran towards Gillman near the other line from Dry Creek to Port Adelaide. Gawler Central was actually called North Gawler until 1984. You could also do a regional railway network map of S.A including the railways to Morgan, Angaston, Balaklava, Moonta, Barmera, Waikeire, Mount Gambier, Sedan, Mount Pleasant and Victor Harbor. Good explanation.
Looks amazing! Great job!
Thanks for the help, I kinda got the idea how you did it.
It's a great historical video about Adelaide's train network. Overall, I'm impressed with the concise and simple presentation of this video. It's also easy to read the historical contents while being historically accurate. 👍👍👍
Thank you, glad you found it informative and easy to understand.
It's a shame because adelaide once had a vast rail network comparable to many other major cities, but we are entering a time of rail revival within the city. Ridership is increasing, grade separations are occurring, station upgrades are happening and more lines are being proposed, such as the Port dock branch line and the underground rail loop which are both on the table after electrification of the Gawler lines is completed. Adelaide railway station is also being upgraded, its an exciting time for trains in adelaide
Yeah Adelaide’s regional rail network is completely non existent these days though. I hope they do more tram extensions and electrification there.
@@TrueBelievers as someone that grew up in Adelaide but now lives in NSW, I would love to see a regional network reintroduced to SA, the Belair Line extended back into the hills, a new train/tram line to the airport or even a new line in the eastern suburbs. But of course, they would either not happen ever, or would take years to do so, as it cost an insane amount of money and a lot of planning, time and effort would need to be put into these projects if they were to ever go ahead. Awesome video btw 👍
@@trainco1643 Thanks yeah I agree, Adelaide is a little behind in rail transit development compared to the other cities in Australia.
@@TrueBelievers a little? I would say it is way behind, compared to NSW where I live, where we have trains heading pretty much anywhere in Sydney and most of regional NSW
@@trainco1643 Yeah I'm giving it a bit more leniency, due to smaller population, growth and economic status. But I agree Sydney is way ahead of the others greatly, even beating Melbourne in some aspects.
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🚞 take a ride in my ''transportation'' folder, (folder 2) :)
I miss that old railway line :( rip willunga, Penfield 3, GMH Elizabeth, Bridgewater, Semaphore and others :(... you should add station because Torrens bridge was added on outer harbour and the first railway station to close :/ :(
Great vid mate! However you should've greyscaled the background map and extend the map coverage further west to display the extensions on the western extent of the map
Thanks for the tip
This randomly came up on my feed today, seemed worth a watch. Regarding the Finsbury Line, there's very little info out there but if you'd dug a bit deeper you'd find it wasn't a lone spur but in fact continued on over Grand Junction Road and connected with the Port Dock-Dry Creek Line. It ran parellel with Glenroy St and then over Grand Junction; if you go on Google Maps on satellite view you can still see the cut through suburbia in Ottoway where the line used to go.
Thanks for the further insight. Yeah there wasn't that much information out there, did it see any passenger train services or mostly freight?
It was a good narration, how could you exactly animate lines like this in DAVINCI Resolve 18 with them showing as opening and closing lines, please tell me ?
Sorry but the line to Semaphore opened in 1878, not 1887. They had special “Semaphore Railway Centenary” celebration in 1978.
The suburb is called "Hallett Cove"
Thanks the correction, happy new year!
Good work! You have some found some obscure lines that are easy to miss: e.g. Jubilee Exhibition, Sleep's Hill deviation, GMH, original line to Semaphore. I'm fairly sure Largs Jetty had passenger services 1882 to 1908, and there might have been passenger services on the tracks around Osbourne. But it's possible none of these were advertised as regular services.
Thanks yeah researching it well helps out finding those obscure lines. :)
and now the port dock line is reopened I rode it today they built a whole new station looks pretty good
Lot of history here, so many industrial lines forever lost to time - but at least they have Port Dock back (at an exorbitant cost🤑)
Unfortunate to see that Australian transit systems met the same fate as American ones in the 20th century. Great video.
Thanks, yeah most networks declined during that time although recently some railway networks are starting to come back.
Unfortunately, the motoring lobby and automotive industries were responsible for the destruction of public transport around the world. Australian and American cities were extremely unlucky for the heavy reliance on the single occupant car. The media hypes too much about electric cars; in the end of the day, cars are still a closed circular metal cage for moving just 1 person mostly for practical reasons. Electric cars only change the propulsion method and will do nothing to reduce road congestion.
In the old days, public transport was operated by private companies with trams and trains. These private companies were very greedy and monopolistic. Many capitalists of transport companies (of trams and trains) are ruthless and only cared about profit even if the service was excessively overcrowded or extremely slow. In the same city, several private operators built railway lines in direct close competition with each other.
Sadly, these greedy capitalists in the 1800's - 1900's give public transport a very bad name. Motoring lobbies and automotive industries often exploit the monopolistic ideological nature of public transport for their own profiteering automotive agenda. When cars became extremely popular in America then Australia, they have done lots of destruction.
Public transport is very important too and must never be ignored. However, the practice of public transport needs to be cost effective and a transparent process without any interference from bureaucracy or greedy private monopolies.
@@michaeleverett1479 Awesome summary there. Yeah since the 2010s though particular in Australia, there has been a boom in public transportation usage, which in turn has gotten attention to rebuilding public transport once again. Although the cities with a struggling economy generally can't able to make the transfer to investing back to public transport due to the lack of patronage growth needed to push for upgrades. Adelaide and Hobart are definitely in this category. Meanwhile, the cities that have boomed economically generally push for major transit projects, such as Melbourne and Sydney.
@@TrueBelievers, I would like to see Adelaide's public transport improved with a multimodal network of frequent buses in a grid connecting to existing train services. Adelaide has a grid road network where buses can run frequently on straight lines on the arterial roads.
More trains have to be brought and modifications of existing train platforms to cope with increased passenger demand from the redesigned bus network. Each train station in Adelaide should have bicycle cages (bike n ride), turnstiles (validators), ticket machines (before the turnstiles), adequate security and restrooms.
Awesome!
Noted that we used to be able to take the train to Upper Sturt on the way to Bridgewater..and yet all the other long routes still operate to the shitty suburbs..unreal..God forbid you'd like a nice day out 😂
So true Adelaide's longer distance rail system is basically gone these days, Gawler line seems like the only one that seemed to survive the cut.
I believe that Outer Harbour used to have a loop of track back in the days of steam, but this was closed at some point.
Yeah that's true I'm aware of it, but wasn't significant enough to really add into the video as it really was used for freights to turn around mostly to the port. Good point though.
They should build an Underground Railroad in South Australia.
Maybe in the future, yeah
It's a petty good video of the Adelaide rail map but need,s to updated from Scott Pyle.
Sorry I am a bit late, just found the video now, great job on this one!
EDIT: just a question, what do you edit with?
No worries. I edit with Adobe Premiere Pro and After Effects. :)
@@TrueBelievers afternoon effects? You mean after effects? Lol
Sorry I meant After effects, damn autocorrect.
I think too much was skipped over on the Glenelg lines (e.g. 1914 closure of line to vic square from sth terrace), however overall great video!
Oh I didn't realise there was a small closure there before the conversion of it to tramway. Thanks anyways.
@@TrueBelievers no perfectly fine, i can't make something like this anyway so it is quite impressive.
You forgot to do the link between Hallett cove to Gawler
Thank you.
Nice!
Thank you
Do you have any commentary for this?
Do you want commentary of how I made the video?
@@TrueBelievers What I meant is that I would a commentary on the history of the Adelaide railways like you did in your Brisbane and Sydney videos.
@@geoffreyhansen8543 Decided not to do commentary on this video.
minor detail but at 3:21 you have G.H.M. appear instead of G.M.H.
You're right, you have a good eye there. :)
Interesting to see that the Flinders Link was actually built, was built mainly for the Chrysler/Mitsubishi plant as far as i know, It's just a single track branch from the now Seaford Line which i didn't know extended out to Willunga. the Gawler line is currently being electrified as far as salisbury i believe part of stage 1, stage 2 will see the remainder of the line converted, there is also a proposal to convert the Outer Harbor/Grange lines to light rail as part of the port link with trams terminating at Outer Harbour, Semaphore, Grange and West Lakes also proposed are a number of other tram routes which more info can be found here www.infrastructureaustralia.gov.au/map/adelink-tram-network-adelaide-tram-network-expansion, no word on the belair line, sleeper replacement happened over a decade ago and the goodwood overpass happened a while ago aswell and there is also the possible extension from seaford to aldinga
Thank the train Gods that the light rail system has been abandoned, a stupid idea in the first place.
@@MarkHenstridge yeah they need to focus on the CBD Rail tunnel Seaford to Gawler, flinders to Outer Harbour and have grange terminate at Woodville, Convert Belair line to standard gauge to have 2 tracks through the corridors and potentially extend the service back to bridgewater
@@jamieknight5345 The line from Belair should be extended to Mt Barker! The argument was that it would take too long and I agree with that statement if will still had the Redhens as our commuter trains. Now that we have electric trains with more power it makes sense to re-open this line. At the moment relying on cars and buses and the congestion on roads in peak hours is insane, a truly progressive city would have a rail to the outer suburb. There still is a role for buses(I am a former hills bus driver, Transitplus), they can act as a feeder service to connect with train departures at Mt Barker, Balhanah, Bridgewater, Mt Lofty, Belair, and Blackwood then non stop to the CBD...But this is Adelaide, we would need the likes of a progressive Premier like in the "Dunstan" era.
@@MarkHenstridge Even with a Jumbo I feel like that argument would be valid but yes with Class 4000s with modified seating larger more longer distance seating and yes express from Belair to North Tce would be a great service would leave it there tho, re instating the alignment to Victor Harbor would be a waste of money there are better options for public Transport on the south coast which might be extending the Seaford line to Sellicks Beach and having the LinkSA busses terminate there or having a public regional bus operator for shorter distance routes from Railway stations to destination, I currently live in Brisbane and they have a much better bus-train connections although not perfect Adelaide on the other hand has so many City bound busses where they could easily have shorter routes and have them better connect with the greater suburban rail network
Imagine what sort of primitive state would still be closing suburban passenger lines in the 80’s & 90’s.
A state with a budget as thin as a hair, Adelaide's only just recovering from the collapse of the state bank in the 90's
Has he done Perth yet? , If yes someone please give em the link.
Yes I’ve done Perth already, although may have missed a few lines. But here’s the link: ua-cam.com/video/DRqcz1UMSPo/v-deo.html
Another depressing video showing the closure public transport. Did the state keep the closed rail corridors or was the land sold off to mates?
Can you do Tokyo railway map history
You show me all the station names In Tokyo
Yeah someone has already done it. ua-cam.com/video/UHKY2NeLkNg/v-deo.html
A few spelling errors, but very informative.
Thanks for the feedback, appreciate it.
Are you South Australian?
No, I'm Victorian,
@@TrueBelievers I’m just curious 🙏
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You forgot the extension of Noarlunga line to Seaford.
It's not forgotten there, it's just looks cut off in the video...
i sorry your Adelaide Sout australia history on rail line is not correct missing few old line 1 out of smithfield to magazine area and 1 salisbury WRE raaf base ,but still enjoyable nice if correct lack facts ,