Brisbane's rail network | Australia's Railway history
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- Опубліковано 14 лис 2020
- This video is an animated presentation of the history of Brisbane's suburban rail network.
This video project took me about 2 months to complete. It was a very ambitious project from the start. Any support is really appreciated.
There may be some minor inaccuracies in the history of the network, please be free to let me know of any errors with the project.
I may not include all stations in the next evolution video, due to how difficult it was to do in this case.
Mostly edited in Adobe After Effects with a little help with Premiere pro to put it together.
The research portion can be thanked heavily by this railway driver from Brisbane who documented when each station opened. sites.google.com/view/seqtrai...
Wikipedia was useful for some of the electrification and opening of some lines.
Thanks to everyone who helped like the pronunciation of many names. I'm sure I missed some important ones.
Appreciate you sharing and getting this video viral, it's been such a major project for my UA-cam channel.
Twitter link here: / truebelievers15
Pronunciation of these stations is hilarious!
Sorry about that, some were tricky to get right.
@@TrueBelievers they aren't that hard to say
@@EMUTransit I wasn't used to them. Yeah some probably I should have gotten right. I was not really used to it at the time of making the video
You forgot to add the branchline to Beaudesert in 1888
Yeah but he got all the others though
I remember the electrification upgrade of the Gympie line. The railway line ran past my school at Cooroy, and as a year 1 at lunchtime I used to go watch them constructing the upgrade.
Interesting to see the construction of the system, its decline during the 50's and 60's when rail was seen as outmoded, then revitalisation with electrification from the 70's to 80's and new extensions from the 90's to present.
Yup lots of differents part history there, from its decline to its revolution back towards transit.
Its a shame the city reoriented toward buses (which are often late as they get caught in traffic), wish we were a little more ambitious with our transit network.
South Bank station was called vulture Street station, it was renamed south Bank station when south Bank was built after expo 88.
Thanks for the information, for convenience I just listed the station names as they were before they were closed, not necessarily the original name it opened as. I'm aware it was called Vulture street and got renamed later.
It was still _Vulture Street_ until well into the 1990s. I used to have one of the Vulture Street station signs.
Very nice work! Great job! Looks amazing, learnt a lot! :)
Glad to hear that!
Poor old Doboy railway station (between Murarrie and Hemmant) didn't even get a mention nor did the Normanby railway station (between Roma St and the Exhibition).
what about poor Thorneside station, open close open close open close open
Normanby mentioned 1.20.
I always love these kinds of videos as I get to learn about rail in cities I will probably never visit
Thank you for enjoying the video
Yo should visit Brisbane tho
@@chazza5606 Don't get me wrong, I would love to, but as an American I'm not likely to visit Australia any time soon!
@@randomcontentgenerator2331 damn, where abouts in America, I’m born and raised here in brisbane
Don't worry about visiting Brisbane mate, it's deadset the worst city in Australia.
I moved to Sydney, great to see how the network has changed while I was away
Agreed it has changed a bit since then.
Just before you guys comment on any minor details being wrong, understand this overall thing behind the scenes was hell to edit and put together, so please be mindful of that. Every project will always have minor details being a little off, I'll try to minimise it, but it's never a guarantee with major project like these ones. ^-^ Hope you enjoyed it regardless.
Thanks
Please do Adelaide rail network
@@Sjwilliams07 It will be the next one, I promise!
@@TrueBelievers a promise is a promise because I want to know about it’s railway history
Nice work! As you read out the station names I was a bit surprised to realise that I'd used all of these lines (except Redcliffe Pennininsula) and most of these stations at least once over the years. It's a pity that the Redcliffe Penninsula Line didn't quite get all the way to Redcliffe - I was working there in 1986 and we had a small celebration to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the proposal to extend a line to Redcliffe. It only took 130 years to actually lay the track!
Politics ikr! At least it's finally there. Now it's time to get the Sunshine Coast line to get built at some point.
At least it was built and then removed. On the Beenleigh line, we should have been connected to NSW - a hundred years ago. They're only doing a 'faster rail' services - as Brisbane got the 2032 Olympics - to the Gold Coast airport, instead of regaining a line for the 2018 Commonwealth Games.
They're removing the Trinder Park station near me - and putting where far less people have access to it. Queensland TMR no longer has 'rail' its name. If you search for public transport at Queensland University - you find 'autonomous vehicles' in the Civil Engineering faculty. It's very anti-rail in Australia.
Take the train to Springfield - and find that you can't walk anywhere from the station - you must then get a lift or a bus to shops etc. In the sixties, trams covered a good part of the inner to middle suburbs. I grew up in Mt Gravatt. It was called 'the terminus' then, as it was the end of the tram line.
In Melbourne, government spends $100nillions to raise many suburban lines and stations - so there are no level crossings. But Queensland says it's not feesible for Logan to put its 'faster rail' underground. Faster rail won't stop at a Logan Central Transit Centre. There's no east-west rail connection to the interstate line near Beaudesert Rd/Mt Lindsay Hwy.
Brisbane just puts pretend trams in - and the Gold Coast gets proper trams.
This video missed the Beaudesert Line from Bethania Station which operated from 1888 - 2004. Also the Cunungra line from Logan Village, operating from 1915 - 1955, although that was a private tramline used to transport timber.
Great video otherwise!
It depends on whether we're talking about 'Brisbane's' rail or South East Queensland. There was also a line from Beaudesert - but called the Beaudesert Tramline with one branch ending in Rathdowney. [I drive past this way regularly - looking for any evidence pf it. There's a good [N or Z scale] model of it going into Rathdowney at the Rathdowney museum.
There was also a few branches off the mainline between Ipswich and Toowoombah. One went through Boonah, another north of the mainline went through Esk - the Brisbane Valley line. [It was about 20km short of making a large circle via the Dayboro - Caboolture branch.]
Also missing is(was) the Belmont Tramway, from Norman Park to Belmont. It used QGR locos, and had a Y- Loco turning facility at Belmont.
Beaudesert line ran 1888 - 1996
@@alaindubois1505 if this was to include "tram" there would be a mess of them in the city
(you can STILL see some of the old rail on Old Cleveland Rd, Camp Hill today)
@@paulwilliams5208 My mother took me on the tram from Mt Gravatt Central [often called 'the terminus' then] to Stones Corner, where we transfered to the Camp Hill line - to visit our Auntie Norma.
There was even a line towards Cavendish Road. When 'Garden City' was built the Mt Gravatt line sgould have been extended - or into Creek Road. Instead, there were buses after the mysterious fire destroyed many trams at the depot.
Brisbane was always sparse with train lines. With there's ten times the population today from when Brisbane first had suburban rail, we should have several more branches - not just faster trains for the 2023 Olympics.
Tennyson line for passengers closed but the railway line still exists when there is track work or a broken down train.
Exactly it still exists, but it's not in regular use, it's rarely used at all, that's why it disappears off the map.
The Tennyson line sees regular train traffic, mostly coal trains going to and from Fisherman’s Island, and empty electric traffic. It does see regular passenger movements when line closures or other unusual events occur around the South Brisbane region but they are always express. Pacific National freight rail are based out of Moolabin yard at Tennyson while Clapham yard has closed and is being rebuilt as a depot for electric trains for the Cross River Rail line.
I am soo happy this video was made, I keep watching it :)
Glad you liked it, will be making more videos like it :)
Correction, The Wooloongabba branch line was closed in approx 1970 when the Southeast freeway was built, although maybe 1km remained near Park Road used as sidings for some years.
Alright fair enough, not sure I'd count sidings as it being open for regular use.
The Wooloongabba Branch Line Closed Between 1960 and 1989. The Wharf Branch Beyond Stanley Street was Closed in January 1960, The Locomotive Depot Closed on 22nd September 1967. Albert Station was Dismantled in Early 1970. The Rest of the Line from Dutton Park to Albert Closed in 1989.
Thank you very much for this important information on the social history of Brisbane's Suburban Rail Network. [from Melb]
No worries! I'm proud to make the informative video to all of you to enjoy!
Love it! What a very educational video to watch!
Glad you enjoyed it!
That was brilliant - well done!
Thank you Dan.
Great video. I lived on the Pinkenba line and watched it get closed. It was quite a loss but everyone was happy to see it re-opened shortly after. It would be good to see the full line re opened and extended for the new cruise ship terminal.
Those great maps were vital to the narrative. Well done!
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed my video. Looking forward to make more soon.
Ahh, you missed Doboy station which closed in the early 90s (between Hemmant and Murrarie)! Also North Boondall was the original Boondall station before being renamed in 1986 with the opening of Boondall Station in line with the opening of the Brisbane Entertainment Centre next door. There was a Badgen station too (between Birkdale and Wellington Point) that was not rebuilt when the line reopened in the mid 80s. Nyanda (between Sailsbury and Rocklea) was deleted in the 70s with the electrification (although the platforms still exist in some format with heavy grass growth).
I was watching for Doboy and Badgen, but I completely forgot about Nyanda.
Also I don't think we saw Holmview close and later reopen (on a different site) while Beenleigh was being relocated as part of rebuilding to the Gold Coast.
(North) Boondall was not renamed with the opening of (the new) Boondall station. It was closed at that time, but it later reopened (with a new name). The video points out, near the end, that it uses the current names for all stations. (This also affects South Brisbane, South Bank, Fortitude Valley, Eagle Junction, Northgate, Petrie, Chelmer, and others too probably.)
Yea i know that there id some changed
@@paulkennedy8701yea roma street
Great video and very well presented. I too learnt something new. Thank you for your hard work. I enjoyed your video.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it, these videos are quite a process to make and I'm glad they've gotten the appreciation they deserve, though I'm pretty underrated as a creator due to infrequent uploads, hoping whenever my life gets less busy I can streamline the process of videos in the future!
Excellent video man! Excellent! Thanks for sharing this amazing treasure
It was actually a pretty poor video. There are entire lines missing. He calls stations by the wrong name, I.e. using Grandchester instead of Bigges Camp and he totally butchers the pronunciation of just about every station on the network.
@@rmar127 oh really! It was a nice effort though! There’s always a room for improvement! Next time he should take care of the concerns you raised! cheers
Rhys is right about the pronunciation, although the stations are called by the current name for simplification, I explained this briefly at the end. Yes I take feedback seriously and improve. Btw it might look easy to watch the video but the process behind it is very complex. Animation, voice over, historical information (which is lacking mind you) and editing all takes time to produce, there will be some slip ups in the production, but everything I try to make is done with effort.
Exactly what I needed. I now know that my little station - Trinder Park was built before the much larger Woodridge station - only 600 metres further down the line. For Queensland's 'faster rail' - Queensland's department of Transport and Main Roads [TMR] are to remove my neighbours house and put four railway tracks between me and the Trinder Park Aged Care facility. It would ruin natural wetlands and two housing areas.
The community has suggested tunnels under the crest on the west of the existing railway corridor. TMR's plans will interfere with over 300 homes plus their neighbours, and move the Trinder Park station and parking onto the wetland reserve - where fewer people are. It will also cut off a main through road, busy in peak hours.
Logan City, tacked together from various dispersed communities - has 340,000 population - yet a handful of railway stations. The Beaudesert line runs through Logan, as well as the Sydney to Brisbane interstate line - that has no stops in Queensland before Roma St station. I've got medical conditions - and live between Logan and Kyogle houses. If you can't drive - you're stuffed - in the Northern Rivers - or even between Logan Central - and Beaudesert Rd. where my sister lives.
Did you notice how rail in the Greater Brisbane region/SEQ grows and then shrinks and then grows a little. After 30 years closing the Gold Coast branches, they start rebuilding one line towards the Coolangatta/Gold Coast Airport - and it stops for 13 years - at Varsity Lakes. Traffic is standstill around this area at peak times.
Brisbane via the originally called South Coast branch line to Tweed Heads, NSW was offered to be converted to standard gauge by Queensland government - to connect with NSW' Murwillumbah 'branch' line [it was built before it was connected to Sydney -as an independent line - Brisbane is only 100km from the state border.]
Queensland state premier, Anna Bligh, was going to 'fast track' the Gold Coast line to Coolangatta Airport by the 2018 Commonwealth Games. Twelve years ago, we could have had all three rail lines greeting international visitors at Coolangatta airport. [Queensland Rail, The Gold Coast tram line and NSW rail] The Gold Coast is Australia's fastest growing non-capital city, Northern Rivers is Australia's third most visited region, and traffic is huge crossing the border - but the two states at war - won't join up with rail on the coast.
There ripping up the Murwillumbah line going through Byron Bay - for elitist cyclists. It's called rail trails - and not even the Lismore floods will stop the destruction. Thousands of lives are at risk, people who once were able to catch a train to the coast [Byron] or go to Brisbane for a few hours - and return home - up to 1990.
My carer from Murrumbeena in Melbourne took the last daytime train to Kyogle from Sydney - going through about 10 am. Now, the only train is at 2.47am to Brisbane. Something stinks badly - and it isn't seen in the media.
You learn something new each day, thank you for this video :))
My pleasure!
These little vids are very interesting. Looking forward to Adelaide. Keen to know about the Stockade line
Glad you like them!
damn bro keep making these vids its very well edited
I will make more content soon, thank you!
Thanks,. Excellent!! Well done.
Glad you liked it!
Bro I can’t stop watching this I love it
Also why didn’t you announce granchester closing?
Awesome video keep it up!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent video. Explained to me why when I rented in Clayfield from 1996 - 1998 I never had access to Clayfield station. Wish it was open because I lived on both Stuckey Rd and Gellibrand St and had to use Eagle Junction station.
Yeah it would of been useful if the line was opened when you were living in the area. Glad you enjoyed the video :) have a good day.
Many of the intermediate stations did not open with the line. For example, the only intermediate station between Ipswich and Grandchester was Walloon. Karrabin was 1877, Rosewood 1866. (I think you have Thomas Street, Wulkuraka, and Thagoona correct. I really should watch again to be sure.) Interesting factoid about Walloon: it's the longest surviving station that's still in the same place, with the same name. Ipswich moved in 1877, and Grandchester was named Bigge's Camp until 1866 (and closed in 1993).
But these are minor details, and don't really detract all that much. Other minor details: Mayne and Albion opened with the Sandgate line in 1882. Whinstaines and Doomben were replaced by a station in between in 1976. It was called Whinstaines-Doomben until 1986 when it was renamed just Doomben.
Here's a fix for a future editions: Dakabin is on the North Coast Line (or Caboolture Line), not South Coast. Vision is correct, audio isn't.
Overall, good work: It looks like it's very time consuming, and needs patience.
Thanks for the corrections, yeah it was quite time consuming especially the visual part. I used most of the information on very few sources, hard to find much information out there on the individual station openings.
Very very good I was hoping to see some of the other sections of railway that closed (Brisbane valley line) But I did learn something I didn’t know like Mayne station and no idea that there was stations beyond Ferny Grove. Thank you very interesting.
Yeah left out Brisbane valley line since it was more of a rural line. Glad you learnt a few things like the line continuing beyond Ferny grove. I didn’t know until I started researching about the history :)
The original Mayne station is now where Bowen Hills station is, Bowen Hill used to be further towards Brisbane, it was the branch station for the line that used to run towards the wool stores.
I've been making a brisbane train map recently, but as its not my home city, its kinda hard to make, the maps can be a bit confusing, this helps so much!
Appreciate your comment, yeah this map is actually based on an existing map, just edited to include the history by making the lines longer. There are plenty of map creators out there that do a better job than me, please go check them out as well!
Out of all of the Blank rail history videos, brisbanes one is the best one. I like the way its animated and how the station names are, there.
ok as a Queenslander that travels on the network, i say that this is quite accurate. i didn't know that the network was this old tho, but one thing is that the Tennyson connection is still listed on the network maps so that might still be running, plus you kind of forgot the Glink line down at the gold coast from Helensvale to southport.
Tennyson link is still listed as it is still used for only for diverting trains during a disruption. It stopped operating as an actual service in 2010s when the station between it had very low patronage. Glink is a tram or LRT, hence why it's exclusion, it only lists train lines.
Tennyson Loop remains active to this day, linking western freight lines to the harbour and proving alternative routes for the Gold Coast and Cleveland lines to northern lines if the lines between Park Road and Roma St are unavailable for any reason.
This was really handy, for the electrification dates, thanks!
No problem mate
Lovely work with the graphics
Woodridge station was a good station before it was opened to the public
I'm sure it was, as stations age over time it can become less appealing over time.
Great video - thank you
Thank you so much for your kind feedback 😊
How come there are no trains that stop at all stations from the city to Caboolture or from the city to Redcliffe anymore but there are still trains that stop at all stations from the city to Ipswich and from the city to Springfield which are on the same lines as Caboolture and Redcliffe?
Well done! Nice and simple! Thanks.👍
Glad you liked it!
Very good , My Husband's Great Uncle GC Willcocks and Grandfather R Willcocks were the contractors on the Cleveland Line and also built a number of contracts on the North-coast line as well as other contracts around Queensland
Thats pretty cool.
Nice. I got a recommendation for the next part of this series: Newcastle.
Evolution/History of what in Newcastle though?
@@TrueBelievers The rail network. You'd have to differentiate between what is a private rail line and a government railway line.
@@griffinrails some railway lines can be closed and change the map of the network like t6 Carlingford line
Note: Normanby Station (Exhibition Line) was shut in 1966.
Yeah that was an error in the presentation, noticed that mistake afterwards.
Thanks for the feedback
Why? Would be handy these days 😂
"Exhibition Station Closed in August 2022. Normanby Station was Closed somewhere in the 1960s to be converted to the Busway Station. The Part of the Exhibition Loop is used by Regional Queensland Rail. Also, Dutton Park used to be Called Boggo Junction. When the Wolloongabba Branch Line was around before the 1980s. The Line Terminated at Stanley Street. For some Reason, you have forgot to add street after Stanley. With Cross River Rail Opening in 2026 it will run through exhibition then into the tunnels until Boggo Road. Wooloongabba will get Heavy Rail Again. also, you forgot the Colour. The Doomben Line was Purple which ran from Roma Street or Park Road to Doomben".
What happened to the Dayboro line and the Coolangatta line? Would be cool if we still had them.
The ccolangatta line is now the M1.
The Two most important growth corridors and the Qld government rip up those train Line 😢😢 Extremely short sighted...
What year did Granchester Station Closed??
One little bone to pick (still watching tho) is the fact Sandgate was terminus and went to Shorncliffe in 1897. The now Sandgate was originally known as Shorncliffe. Gloucester Street was between Park Road and South Bank. South Bank opened as Vulture Street and didn’t change name til 2001 just prior to the opening of the Airport line.
Only error is the position of Gloucester street according to how I presented the history. Just note the names of the stations presented only show the name it is at the time of making of the video. If I presented the name changes, it would complicate the video even further, although it would be a more accurate historic representation. I said at the end, I did this for simplification reasons, to reduce the animation needed and time length of the video.
Current Sandgate was known first as ... Sandgate! With the extension, it was renamed Sandgate Central, and the new terminus was named Sandgate. This terminus was renamed Shorncliffe in 1938, and the original station was renamed back to plain Sandgate (except the station had shifted location a little in 1911).
Wasn't the north coast line ment to be extended from Sandgate onwards??
Very interesting!
Glad you think so!
Rather interesting! I need to revisit brisbane soon because the borders opened
Yeah Brisbane is a very cool place to visit, yeah gotta wait till those borders open.
@@TrueBelievers they’re open now!
hi mate really really enjoy all your work did you know nyanda station on beenleigh line closed in 1978
I didn't know that, thanks for your valuable feedback, I'm planning to make more videos more often when I have more free time.
You missed the second stage, when in 1867 the Ipswich to Grandchester line was extended all the way up the Toowoomba Range to Toowoomba, which has been described as a more complex project than putting man on the moon.
Yeah it kinda lies outside Brisbane really hence why it doesn't get a mention.
Excellent 👍. Next, history of the types of trains in Brisbane👍✌️
Great idea mate!
Very informative video and was actually quite intrigued at how old these stations are. It's interesting to know I am standing on a piece of history when I am waiting for the train.
But a couple of minor things I know you can't change - The brony edits were cringe and it sounded like you were shouting at me.
But it's still a +1 in my books.
Glad you enjoyed it overall nevertheless.
@@TrueBelievers no worries man :)
Gloucester is pronounced “gloster”. Pinkenba is pronounced “pink-en-bah”, emphasis on pink.
Thank you, will take note of that in future videos.
Gloucester was actually pronounced GLUS-ter. Yes, PINK-en-bah. The first syllable of Thorraldtown was like TOP without the P. Short O, no H.
I live in brisbane and have done some work in Pinkenba and never realised that we do put emphasis on pink
Also, Gloucester St was between Vulture St and Park Road, not between Park Road and the junction.
Pin...Ken.. ba or pink...en...ba...who really knows. There's an old pub with 60s carpet with a fight in every glass still I'm sure.
But does anyone really go to that suburb anymore ?
Actually might be a great buy up before delta variant..oooops I mean before the southerners start arriving again and us queenslanders have no where to live
You’re missing some stations near Grandchester
You're probably correct, hard to find some older railway maps to accurately find these stations. Most of sources I found online were pretty tricky to collect. Any information from locals are welcome.
Great info.
Thanks
Nice! Could you please do this for the future of the network, with the new tunnel?
Yeah I could do one specifically about the new tunnel they are building in Brisbane.
Great video
Thanks! Can't wait to make more content soon.
It will also be need to be updated again soon. With Cross River rail being built from Dutton Park to Exibition station.
Cross River rail is opening in like 2024/2025 so still a few years off when I made the video. Will consider making a video specifically talking about Cross River rail.
@@TrueBelievers the tunnel is completed to Roma street, CRR may be completed earlier than expected as well. its construction is ahead of schedule 🙂🙂🙂
@@bristwenty Wasn't the line itself but the demolition of the travel centre at Roma St station was actually behind schedule, worked on the project in a minor role, the contractors got machinery stuck on in the building. Very excited for CRR though, even if the Albert St station plans look ugly as sin.
@@TrueBelievers I think that Cross River Rail will open by 2026.
@@ethans-dk4bk That's correct they delayed the project by a few months in the latest news.
A few things. Mayne Station and the original Bowen Hills were closed in 1973. The platform for the present Bowen Hills was built in 1971,but the station not opened until 1973. Fortitude Valley station was called Brunswick St for most of its existence, before re-naming in the 2000's. The Wooloongabba line (QR spelt it with one "l") closed December 19,1969. Not mentioned is the Belmont Shire Tramway which junctioned with the Cleveland Line at Norman Park and ran to Belmont via Seven Hills,Camp Hill and Carina. It operated from 1912 to 1926. At least one track of the line from Corinda to Yeerongpilly had been electrified in 1982, as it was in use for electric trains during the Commonwealth Games That year.
That's a lot of things, but I'm happy for discussion. If a station got renamed then it was ignored because for simplicity, I just marked the current name for most of the stations (except for the merged ones). I may have underestimated how long the Wolloongabba line lasted, but tried to pinpoint the date passenger trains stopped. The Belmont Shire tramway was in my research but left it out as a "tramway" not a railway. One track electrified probably was tricky to find in my research, good you figured that one. I tried my best with the research I had available, and yes the station renames would be difficult to do I did every station there, hence the exclusion. Hope it was good regardless.
My question is why did they close the stations since Dayboro to camp mountain?🤔🤔 can someone explain me ?
It closed because freight traffic was lost to road transport
So short sighted 😢😢
Good work
Thank you so much for your kind feedback! ☺️
The Doomben line should be extended to Corinda via Yeerongpilly to give Ipswich Springfield passengers access to Cross River Rail stations without going via Roma Street.
Gloucester Street station is also before Park Road station.
Yeah that was a mistake you know, didn't mean to put them in the wrong places.
One question.
Is the Taringa/Tarinqa station a q or g ?
It's meant to be a g, it's cropped cause when I animated the text, I didn't push it up enough to uncover the full lettering.
@@TrueBelievers understand.
Is there any remaining evidence of Mayne station? Like an old platform, or sign or seats?
Not much remaining sadly
The flyover for the Ferny Grove branch is on the old Mayne station site.
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Glad you enjoyed it
the "sunshine coast line" is more the part beyond Caboolture
& you have to change trains at Ipswich for stations beyond to Rosewood
I didn't know about these two tidbits of information, thanks for letting me know, will be important to know in future content.
What do you think about the Train Man?
I have really thought about doing a collab with the Train man. He seems like the perfect youtuber to work together with.
@@TrueBelievers he is a beast of a man
@@TheGribblesnitch Ok if you say so. Planning a special video that the train man and I can do together.
Now that's a good video
Thank you, I appreciate that, I have a planned collaboration project with you, wanna chat further elsewhere?
Also check out the Glen Waverly timelapse video, I'm sure that'll be another good video to enjoy at the same time!
@@TrueBelievers sure, instagram?
What’s your username?
I think I found you. I'm truebelievers3245.
You forgot monkland station, I know that the mary valley rattler runs past it but it was once part of the sunshine coast line. But when the original Gympie station was replaced by Gympie north in 1989, monkland also closed.
Also forgot a few more stations.
Why do you say Pinkamena instead of Pinkenba, with some pink equine coming up, is this some brony thing?
Pinkamena is the name of the pink equine that comes up, just a mlp reference.
4:04 this gap between South Brisbane and the northern Roma Street & Milton stations must seem so odd… if you didn’t know the Brisbane River divides the lines. The join Corinda (?) to Tennyson to Yerongpilly was probably south enough to avoid the river bends
I based the graphics on the official rail map not on the geography in Brisbane, so it's not to scale.
Morningside Train Station was called Bulimba in 1890
For simplicity sake, I only listed the station by it's current name, not its former name.
Wul-ka-ru-ka!
Wool-lon-gabba
Than-goo-na
Love the vid!
The only real fault I could find is that you mixed the locations of Gloucestor Street and Park Road stations up. I know from growing up and going to school in South Brisbane for my high school years. Park Road sat in the shadow of Boggo Road jail for years, just after the Beenleigh line interchange yards, while Gloucester Street was closer to Vulture Street Station (now South Bank), before the rail tunnels between Gloucester Street and Vulture Street.
Yeah someone pointed out, I forgot to add the closure of Normanby station as well. Oh well, almost perfect.
@@TrueBelievers I will tell you, it is a LOT better than some I've seen, to be honest. No-one's perfect, and such small errors are better than some official documents I have seen. So buck up! Or I'll send Pinkie after you...
@@cassandrafoxx4171 Awwww thank you, wow you recognised the Pinkie pie reference. ^-^ Glad you enjoyed it so much.
@@TrueBelievers How could I NOT get them when Pinkie kept popping up on the screen? I love your Pony inclusions.
Hehe, I still call it Vulture Street Station- I hated the name change 20 years ago!
Stupid how they got rid of the Southport/GC train line.. plus getting rid of the line to Samford/Dayboro was very short sighted also..
Mayne was closed sometime after 76 to 78 because I worked for qr back then
Awesome you worked for Queensland Rail, hope you liked it.
1973, when the current Bowen Hill station opened, though I believe that the old platforms at Mayne were not removed until 1977/78 to construct the Ferny Grove line flyover.
No mention of the Brisbane Valley Line that branched off of the main line and went all the way through to Yarraman
I counted the Brisbane Valley line as a rural line, so I didn't include it.
cant believe they removed the samford train.. id totally take the go card to there .... but i doubt they ran trains half hourly back then? its super hard for me to find any bus timetables or train timetables that arent current and certainly not back to 90's when i was youngster or far back when the samford train would have been running.
As far as I know the Samford line was closed following an accident, QR should reopen the line but they're not very ambitious these days.
@@johndeere8004 You actually expect politicians to waste money carting the great unwashed public about that could be better spent on salary increases for themselves and their Dept Empires??!! Please watch Sir Humphrey Applegate's lucid explanation of why it just can't be done! 😱🙄😏
@@theoztreecrasher2647 i didn't say i expect it, i said it should be done. we all know the system is broken, i work for translink. the director general of translink takes home over 600k per annum and the bus contracts are handed out to the dodgiest rent seeking profiteers, like kinetic group - see gold coast driver shortage suspicially lining up with kinetic refusing to accept TWU workers demands.
@@johndeere8004 Yep, it'd all be back to the Garden of Eden-land if Leon Trotsky were running the show! Whatever did happen to him?
@@theoztreecrasher2647 i don't know, i'm sure he lived a long and fruitful life in mexico. the trots wouldn't bring the garden of eden back, but that doesn't mean kinetic aren't a gross company with a laundry list of reasons they shouldn't be given public money.
Interesting video. Though the pronunciations of some stations are off. And unfortunately you didn't include the Beenleigh to Beaudesert line.
Fair feedback, as I said I put that branch as regional, but yeah I think I understand why some feel like it shouldn't be left out. Many lines were regional back then with limited development.
Small error, but Gloucester street was between Park Road and South Bank.
I noticed it after I uploaded it I put in order the wrong way around, good to catch that error.
Having watched the video again--- What about the Beaudesert Branch???
I've listed that as regional rather than an urban line at the time.
But you mentioned Bigges Camp, Gympie North and Tweed Heads which were far more regional than Beaudesert If you do not know the areas, or have done decent research please do not do videos @@TrueBelievers
@@firstfreeone You don't need to be harsh about it. Each line from the start was pretty rural and over time it's become more urbanised. I left it out since it was one of the branches that never got electrified and integrated into the urban network. I actually did quite a bit of research into the video. I don't need to be lectured on what counts and what doesn't count, it's up to your own view. If I included more, then others would ask to add other lines as well. I made a cut off if any lines never got electrified or reintroduced in some way they'd not be included.
The South Port line used to go all down the Gold Coast and crossed the NSW border at one stage. It's a shame car use saw it shut and sold off for development. Also Queensland didn't electrify till quite late but when they did they went all out. Longest electrified network in Australia and probably rivals the entire US.
Yeah the car use has affected many cities to reduce their public transport networks. Such as removal of tram networks and the electrification program while late in Brisbane was quite ambitious.
@@TrueBelievers A few years ago trams were introduced to the Gold coast, from Helensvale to Southport, using Bombardier Flexity 2s.
@@aydoyt That's true, that was quite recent, would of been great if they kept the heavy rail connection.
@@TrueBelievers Yep, pretty much the same story as Newcastle.
Electrification goes all the way to Rockhampton which is about 7-8 hours north of Brisbane and i think its the only long distance Electric Train Route in Australia
Criminal that the line to Coolangatta was ripped up, when you see the shambolic state of the M1 every day
At least the corridor has provision to be extended back in the future, yeah back in the 60s and 70s, car ownership was king and railways were left in a very poor state. The 80s saw a shift in public transport, there's also a recent boom in public transport through the 2000s and 2010s.
There’s also the Gold Coast GLink now from Helensvale to Broadbeach, commenced in 2016.
Trams don’t count in this case, just urban/semi urban passenger train lines. I intentionally missed that one because it’s a tram line.
But it is an awesome transport link, worth talking about in its own video.
@@TrueBelievers GLink is actually a light rail (not a tram) as it has its own dedicated track, separate to the streets. (Trams travel on the street.) It’s important to mention GLink as it has reinstated the old Southport branch line down Smith Street, which was discontinued in 1964 as you mentioned in your video.
@@Diggles67 tram/lightrail, can be used interchangably. Light rail still uses trams, it's still a tram line. I know tramways are different, I meant tram line. tram lines can be lightrail or the older tram way network seen in Melbourne.
@@TrueBelievers GLink is more in the light rail category. It is six cars long. The longest Melbourne trams are only 3 cars. Melbourne trams also run mostly on streets, stops being inconspicuous street stops. GLink only stops at dedicated purpose built stations and runs solely on its own medians and tracks. Again, I mentioned it because it partly reinstates the old Southport branch line that used to run down what is now the Smith St. motorway.
I should mention some pronunciation errors. Yeerongpilly is a short e /e/. Moorooka is a long o sound /oo/ for the second oo while the first one is short. Landsborough has a silent o for the first o so it would sound like brough. Fortitude Valley is mispronounced (error found easily there ). Cester of Gloucester St is shortened to ster so it would sound like Glouster.
I actually tried communicating with someone from Brisbane to reduce as much pronunciations errors in the video, but many were missed through, thanks for letting me know, will help out if I ever make more videos on Brisbane. Brisbane names seem to be the trickiest ones to pronounce.
No problem also the Doomben line is independent and has a purple colour, running from central to Doomben.
Another tip is that we use British rules too. Since of the many traditional names, it's tricky for foreigners.
Good vid. Maybe consider naming it "history of (name of place) railways"?
I might consider a renaming scheme with these video, I'll let you know how I'll do that
I know this video was from a bit but you forgot the Beaudesert line from bethania
Thanks for the feedback ^-^
Normanby station is supposed to be on the translink bus line. Normanby is not a train station.
your pronounciation isnt totally correct, but as a non native i didnt ecpect you to be totally accurate.
That said you analysis is amazing, with a few missing bits, but still great.
Thank you for your video. it will see its place in history as a great research tool for public transport enthusuasts.
Thanks for the kind and well constructed feedback. I've received this feedback on most of my history rail videos and will be more careful when treading over pronounced names on stations and other names. Yeah these are good way to construct the history in a visual form.
The Springfield and Redcliffe lines are the only ones to be electrified right from the start.
New lines in the suburban system are electrified from the start because the system was electrified in the 1980s. Yes it goes to show only two new lines were built after the 1980s.
This video will have to be updated once the Cross River Rail is completed.
Yeah that's still a couple of years away, not a problem.
What about the line to Southport last century.
I think I mention that.
@@TrueBelievers The trouble with us folks of that vintage is that both our attention spans and memories have undergone some degradation. 😜😁
@@theoztreecrasher2647 That's alright, I don't mind people clarifying things they missed in the video. I'm open to all feedback and criticism.
Only took 100 + fricken years for the Redclife Peninsula line to FFINNNNNALLY open! BTW, you spelt Lawnton wrong :)
Yeah it did take awhile. Good spot with the mistake :)
The "Australian language needs a lot of work here, every station is just about said incorrectly"
Apologies for that. I tried my best with pronunciation. It could have been better. I'll pass the feedback in future videos so I get the station names right the second time around.
What happened to the Kilcoy Woodford branch you missed that ??????it was pulled up in 1964 ????
It's Brisbane rail history not Queensland rail history, that's completely outside Brisbane, was only covering the suburban system, not the rural network.
Why are suburban rail networks in Australia radial in nature??
Doesn't this hamper cross suburb commute??
Mostly the way the city developed suited radial travel at the time. Yeah somewhat. There are cross suburban bus services but it isn't as convenient as a train or tram.
You forgot to make the doomben line purple
Yeah I only did it yellow to simplify it, but yeah the maps show it as a purple separate line from the Airport branch.