I think the lack of cleaning around the phone cord is fine unless you store your cord on the floor. It should not be there the next time the vacuum comes around. Thanks for showing this new model as I'm in the market for another robot.
I just got the J7+ and so far impressed. While mapping, it rambled around the house like a drunk sailor running into everything. but now after a few cycles thru the house,, it slows down for walls, chairs,etc.. and then reverses course. I did get one ERROR message that the room with the base was too dark and it couldn't see it.
Great inital test Adam. I think with software updates and over time this will improve quite a bit. Irobot is known for fixing issues after a couple months. Look at how bad the S9 was when it was initially released.
not sure how the AI works in this, but if it has a library of objects like some robots do then its behaviour makes sense, I think. If it can recognise the bottles as self-contained units it can afford to be more aggressive around them as there's nothing that's likely to trip it up. However, if it recognises a 'wire' it will know that those are less self-contained objects and therefore more likely to have unpredictable protuberances that it might not see and will mess it up, hence giving them a much wider clearance 'just in case'. can probably be tweaked over time, and maybe it will even do that learning on-board without needing a firmware update, but either way its actions in this video kind of make sense.
object recognition is different from understanding where something exists spatially so i’d wager that all effort has been put into the former so far. the instructions are probably not “stay X inches away from a recognized object” (because it can’t) but rather “if you see any objects on this list, just turn away”. i’m only speaking as a computer vision hobbyist
If I had to guess, this will improve as they gather more data - there's only so much they replicate in lab. iRobot has started to request feedback more and more from what I can tell (the "how did your robot clean?" popup) .. if I had to guess, they're using the low ratings to analyze and train.
Mine just arrived today. Running it now and I’m impressed. I had the i7 but I LOVE the subscription option here and the obstacle avoidance is really good!
Can’t wait to see how well it MAPS the whole house. I have a large single story home and the Roomba 9+ failed badly attempting to map the house. 24 hours(!!) for the first map and you need three maps for accuracy. Then the S9+ just sat on its base refusing to move. Rebooted it 3x. S9+ would start to vacuum / Map for 3 or 4 feet, then fail and shut itself off. Back it went to Amazon!! Thank you for your detailed videos. I’ve owned 5 different Roomba vacs starting with the very first one many years ago. So disappointed in the S9+. Looking now for MORE ACCURATE AND QUICKER MAPPING. Probably have to go with a LIDAR model. Can’t wait to see this new machine attempt to map your house 👍 Thank you.
The S9 has gotten a tad better but I still refuse to reccommend it. It's sad because the cleaning performance is unparalleled. Worst case scenario I still highly recommend that i7
Just an idea it would be cool and insightful to see the run time of the vacuum in probably the bottom right corner of the screen. Since iRobots have lower battery capacity. Nice videos!
Great video bro, so you guys know that iRobot can program different objects for the robot to avoid. This will take time. Like Adam said ,really no reason to program in a water bottle for avoiding it.
The pictures of what it avoided are in the history section. You can choose to leave a permanent keep out zone or a temp one. Then have the option to do a "tidy up" clean where it will clean those temp spots only
Hi, so, I work at one of the stores where they have an iRobot rep. She told us it does not work in complete dark. The led light is just to help the camera see the poop better.
It wasn’t thinking the Gatorade bottle was a chair leg vs the other bottles. It was the orange non reflective color liquid vs the translucent water and the reflective metal can.
Tha thanks for the test. Sadly l think l will hold off until these robots can handle liquids and runny poops as well. Thankfully it looks like it won't be long now.
I would love to see the night\dark test as that would be the best time for me to run one in my house and will be a main factor in my decision of what to buy.
Just to clarify: out of the box and for now it can only detect pet waste and cables. That’s it. The rest of the obstacles are detected via bumper touch. Also, No, the led light is not for navigation it is only to have a better look at the pet waste and cable. iRobot says if the j7 sucks up poop they will send you a replacement at no cost to you.
Should do an object test with this against the Samsung AI+, I read it's supposed to be Intel based and have better 3d sensors vs just a camera alone. Interesting to say the least!
@@AdamsReviews Oh it's definitely more expensive 😂 I'm very surprised with the price of the IRobot being more competitive, but I'm assuming that's to save room for a higher end J9+ (If they follow the same naming pattern)
Got the Jet Bot AI+ and the Roborock S7+ a week ago, working on my first video to do the comparison. I will say the AI+ has by far the best AI & obstacle avoidance of any robot vacuum that exists, by a large margin. I have the S6MaxV and it's no comparison. AI+ is extremely impressive in that regard, and also top dog in one or two other categories, but suffers immensely in some very important ways (subjectively)... a few of them being it's ridiculous height (can't get under my damn couch), carpet cleaning ability (worth the trade off for me since I don't have much carpet, and it cleans incredibly well on hard floors and in crevices), and the fact that Samsung SUCKS at keeping replacement dust bags and other necessary parts in stock.
I too would love to see the dark room test! It's always been my biggest complaint with Roomba's. I'm trying to decide if I want to get the Roborock S7 due to the lidar navigation and cleaning in the dark or the J7.
Honestly they need to find a way to have it not pick up Loose change either... the rollers get destroyed with dimes, quarters, and especially nickles... because they are thicker! Next thing you know you have sections of rollers that have nothing left on them.. just smooth rollers!
Thank you for this helpful test. I would be curious to see how it works with typical kid debris, such as toys, socks, clothes, bookbags, papers etc. Thx for considering.
The computer vision of the J7 must be similar to the computer vision found in the front windshield of new vehicles where the camera can distinguish basic objects. I'm not sure if there is machine learning abilities in the J7 such as that of the recent Apple A15 SoC found in iPhones but it would be helpful if the J7 could learn new objects as time progresses. I find it unfortunate that the J7 could not distinguish Advil & water bottles during the test.
Maybe it is different between each j7 because mine gets right up next to any wire on the ground it marks where it is and plans its path for one of the sides to go right next to it on one of its passes.
What I'd really like to know is...is it just as bad at mapping and knowing where it is as the previous models (i7, s9)? Or did they do something to address its relative blindness compared to LIDAR robots?
So, I noticed something interesting on my new j7.....I am pretty sure it doesn't use obstacle avoidance if using just a mapping run.....it plowed thru multiple cables (that it avoided on the initial vacuuming mapping run), would be interested to see u put that theory to test with poop and other various objects doing just a mapping run. This could be very important and possibly a flaw from irobot that should be addressed for a new j7 owner lol....."I just started mapping my house in it smeared sh*t everywhere trying to map it!" Lol
yes, if you trainning run the robot will go into poop, after that you have to enable the object detection feature to make sure the robot do not go into poop 😅😅😅
Please do a proper test we want to see it vacuum around the poop not just see something in random infront. It did not go near let alone vacuum around the poop. I use the Neabot Q11 & it vacuumed around the poop.
My experience with the J7+ is that the mapping is just terrible. Totally antiquated when it compared to LiDar. The map it created looks nothing like my floor plan, which then means that using the no go zone feature is rendered useless. Two days, packed and returned.
Maybe my 90 year old (in dog years) miniature dachshund is different but! I think the room it leaves around an object is great. If I work late and she has an accident… she always pee’s right by her poop. If it got closer to the poop, it would splatter pee all over.
The distance it leaves is good, in case it is seeing a cat/dog, so it avoids their tail/feet and doesn't scare them so much. It would be good if you could tell it ok 10" distance except ~3" from cables.
Adam, how many square feet would you say it can clean before a charge is needed? This is a major point for me as the 90 min charge time could mean it would interfere with baby sleeping times.
I have a problem, if you have a solution for it, and it sends a message that I empty the dust container while it is still not full. What is the solution to this problem and in the application it tells me to wipe the internal sensor that is already inside the dust container, and therefore dust will reach it from the first operation of the vacuum cleaner, please help
I think it would get on my tits hearing it constantly bumping into skirting boards. It doesn't have a sensor on the front to measure the distance to a solid object (even though the camera should be smart enough to work it out) My Roborock slows down as it approaches a solid object and then bumps it very gently with its bumper sensor.
@@TheDeepsilverThere are a number of LiDAR bots with obstacle avoidance. S6 MaxV and T8 AIVI come to mind for a similar camera system. Dreame L10 and N8 Pro have front laser obstacle detection, but my experience with them and cables, expecially flat ones isn't as good.
@@RN-hx1rs I listened to an interview with irobots CEO the future is lasers in cars but not sure about robots. He is hooked on camera-based navigation,
I liked how you put your camera on the robot so we can see its point of view.
I think the lack of cleaning around the phone cord is fine unless you store your cord on the floor. It should not be there the next time the vacuum comes around. Thanks for showing this new model as I'm in the market for another robot.
I just got the J7+ and so far impressed. While mapping, it rambled around the house like a drunk sailor running into everything. but now after a few cycles thru the house,, it slows down for walls, chairs,etc.. and then reverses course. I did get one ERROR message that the room with the base was too dark and it couldn't see it.
Great inital test Adam. I think with software updates and over time this will improve quite a bit. Irobot is known for fixing issues after a couple months. Look at how bad the S9 was when it was initially released.
Definitely impressed with the object avoidance. It avoided what it really needed to. Well done - nice review.
Ok so this is a definite purchase! I requested this for my bday! 2 boys and mommy is TIRED sweeping and vacuuming!!! Woohooo
not sure how the AI works in this, but if it has a library of objects like some robots do then its behaviour makes sense, I think. If it can recognise the bottles as self-contained units it can afford to be more aggressive around them as there's nothing that's likely to trip it up. However, if it recognises a 'wire' it will know that those are less self-contained objects and therefore more likely to have unpredictable protuberances that it might not see and will mess it up, hence giving them a much wider clearance 'just in case'. can probably be tweaked over time, and maybe it will even do that learning on-board without needing a firmware update, but either way its actions in this video kind of make sense.
It does not have AI, it has machine learn which is different.
@@KhyronElric ok yes, fair point... you know what i mean
If it is using visual neural networks and it hasn't been trained to recognize some of these objects, it would make sense.
object recognition is different from understanding where something exists spatially so i’d wager that all effort has been put into the former so far. the instructions are probably not “stay X inches away from a recognized object” (because it can’t) but rather “if you see any objects on this list, just turn away”. i’m only speaking as a computer vision hobbyist
@@KhyronElric It has a machine learning AI
If I had to guess, this will improve as they gather more data - there's only so much they replicate in lab. iRobot has started to request feedback more and more from what I can tell (the "how did your robot clean?" popup) .. if I had to guess, they're using the low ratings to analyze and train.
Mine just arrived today. Running it now and I’m impressed. I had the i7 but I LOVE the subscription option here and the obstacle avoidance is really good!
Can’t wait to see how well it MAPS the whole house. I have a large single story home and the Roomba 9+ failed badly attempting to map the house. 24 hours(!!) for the first map and you need three maps for accuracy.
Then the S9+ just sat on its base refusing to move. Rebooted it 3x. S9+ would start to vacuum / Map for 3 or 4 feet, then fail and shut itself off.
Back it went to Amazon!!
Thank you for your detailed videos. I’ve owned 5 different Roomba vacs starting with the very first one many years ago. So disappointed in the S9+.
Looking now for MORE ACCURATE AND QUICKER MAPPING. Probably have to go with a LIDAR model.
Can’t wait to see this new machine attempt to map your house 👍
Thank you.
The S9 has gotten a tad better but I still refuse to reccommend it. It's sad because the cleaning performance is unparalleled. Worst case scenario I still highly recommend that i7
Just an idea it would be cool and insightful to see the run time of the vacuum in probably the bottom right corner of the screen. Since iRobots have lower battery capacity. Nice videos!
I think it's smart enough to not go over cables as it knows it will get stuck on them and smart enough to know it can push solid objects.
Great video bro, so you guys know that iRobot can program different objects for the robot to avoid. This will take time. Like Adam said ,really no reason to program in a water bottle for avoiding it.
The pictures of what it avoided are in the history section. You can choose to leave a permanent keep out zone or a temp one. Then have the option to do a "tidy up" clean where it will clean those temp spots only
Need the stress tests. :). I’m picking this up tomorrow morning. I’m hoping it avoid dog poo, especially in the dark.
I have a REAL poop test coming real soon possibly in the morning.
Hi, so, I work at one of the stores where they have an iRobot rep. She told us it does not work in complete dark. The led light is just to help the camera see the poop better.
It wasn’t thinking the Gatorade bottle was a chair leg vs the other bottles. It was the orange non reflective color liquid vs the translucent water and the reflective metal can.
Tha thanks for the test. Sadly l think l will hold off until these robots can handle liquids and runny poops as well. Thankfully it looks like it won't be long now.
I would love to see the night\dark test as that would be the best time for me to run one in my house and will be a main factor in my decision of what to buy.
Just to clarify: out of the box and for now it can only detect pet waste and cables. That’s it. The rest of the obstacles are detected via bumper touch. Also, No, the led light is not for navigation it is only to have a better look at the pet waste and cable. iRobot says if the j7 sucks up poop they will send you a replacement at no cost to you.
Correct from what I understand.
Can’t wait to see how the new clean base works compared to the old one
Works very well. Got mine a couple days ago.
Should do an object test with this against the Samsung AI+, I read it's supposed to be Intel based and have better 3d sensors vs just a camera alone. Interesting to say the least!
Possibly. I am not a big fan of the ai+ and its very expensive.
@@AdamsReviews Oh it's definitely more expensive 😂 I'm very surprised with the price of the IRobot being more competitive, but I'm assuming that's to save room for a higher end J9+ (If they follow the same naming pattern)
Got the Jet Bot AI+ and the Roborock S7+ a week ago, working on my first video to do the comparison. I will say the AI+ has by far the best AI & obstacle avoidance of any robot vacuum that exists, by a large margin. I have the S6MaxV and it's no comparison. AI+ is extremely impressive in that regard, and also top dog in one or two other categories, but suffers immensely in some very important ways (subjectively)... a few of them being it's ridiculous height (can't get under my damn couch), carpet cleaning ability (worth the trade off for me since I don't have much carpet, and it cleans incredibly well on hard floors and in crevices), and the fact that Samsung SUCKS at keeping replacement dust bags and other necessary parts in stock.
I too would love to see the dark room test! It's always been my biggest complaint with Roomba's. I'm trying to decide if I want to get the Roborock S7 due to the lidar navigation and cleaning in the dark or the J7.
Will do one soon thanks
@@AdamsReviews awesome. Thank you! Just found and subscribed to your channel. Keep up the great work
@@AdamsReviews I’m also looking towards a dark room test
This thing looks way better than their S9
Honestly they need to find a way to have it not pick up Loose change either... the rollers get destroyed with dimes, quarters, and especially nickles... because they are thicker! Next thing you know you have sections of rollers that have nothing left on them.. just smooth rollers!
This is made now only to avoid poops and cables. I haven't seen this avoiding anything else.
What about going to edge of stairways...?
Thanks for your hard work!
Thanks I appreciate the comment!
So i'm impressed. I almost feel like it's in the software that it can bump into cans without hurting them or getting tangled.
It should stop about 2-3 inches away but looks very promising!
Thank you for this helpful test. I would be curious to see how it works with typical kid debris, such as toys, socks, clothes, bookbags, papers etc. Thx for considering.
good stuff. Can you test it on black carpet? or like an oriental rug with black lines around it?
The distance it keeps away is good, pet feces can also have urine you do not want it aspirating it.
The computer vision of the J7 must be similar to the computer vision found in the front windshield of new vehicles where the camera can distinguish basic objects. I'm not sure if there is machine learning abilities in the J7 such as that of the recent Apple A15 SoC found in iPhones but it would be helpful if the J7 could learn new objects as time progresses. I find it unfortunate that the J7 could not distinguish Advil & water bottles during the test.
I think that will be coming soon. They are really focused on the poop and cables.
I’m pretty sure it only avoids cables and poop for now. Roomba says they will add more items for it to avoid soon
Pls do a black room test and by the way i love your channel
Dark room? It will fail. The led light is not for navigation only to detect poop and cables better.
Another great video!!!! Haven´t you tried J7 robot with i7 Clean Base station?
Maybe it is different between each j7 because mine gets right up next to any wire on the ground it marks where it is and plans its path for one of the sides to go right next to it on one of its passes.
What I'd really like to know is...is it just as bad at mapping and knowing where it is as the previous models (i7, s9)? Or did they do something to address its relative blindness compared to LIDAR robots?
So, I noticed something interesting on my new j7.....I am pretty sure it doesn't use obstacle avoidance if using just a mapping run.....it plowed thru multiple cables (that it avoided on the initial vacuuming mapping run), would be interested to see u put that theory to test with poop and other various objects doing just a mapping run. This could be very important and possibly a flaw from irobot that should be addressed for a new j7 owner lol....."I just started mapping my house in it smeared sh*t everywhere trying to map it!" Lol
yes, if you trainning run the robot will go into poop, after that you have to enable the object detection feature to make sure the robot do not go into poop 😅😅😅
Please do a proper test we want to see it vacuum around the poop not just see something in random infront.
It did not go near let alone vacuum around the poop.
I use the Neabot Q11 & it vacuumed around the poop.
My experience with the J7+ is that the mapping is just terrible. Totally antiquated when it compared to LiDar. The map it created looks nothing like my floor plan, which then means that using the no go zone feature is rendered useless. Two days, packed and returned.
Hi Adam great reveiw, Would you buy the J7 as your personal robot cleaner?
So far yes. I love the design and it seems to clean very well and the poop and cable avoidance is very very good.
@@AdamsReviews Thanks Adam I'm not buying a vacuum robot without you giving it the Nod!
Maybe my 90 year old (in dog years) miniature dachshund is different but! I think the room it leaves around an object is great. If I work late and she has an accident… she always pee’s right by her poop. If it got closer to the poop, it would splatter pee all over.
Yeah it sounds like it would be perfect for you
I want to see a stress test of the j7
Just bought one of these. Please know it is very loud on hard floors
Can it distinguish between loose cable ends and cable it could run over safely without ingulfing them ?
I think it can. I made a new video check it out.
So far, which is your favorite robot vacuum for large floor plans?
Please do the no light challenge!
The distance it leaves is good, in case it is seeing a cat/dog, so it avoids their tail/feet and doesn't scare them so much. It would be good if you could tell it ok 10" distance except ~3" from cables.
I saw on sharks website that there is a new shark ai robot vacuum this one appears to have lidar navigation and a self empty bin
It has the crappy tiny dustbin like on the Shark IQ, so it’s definitely a 👎
@@MrBlueCreeper wonder how the new roomba j7 is compared to my i7
lol I ordered one.
@@AdamsReviews oh really? Ok we’ll see how it does!
@@Momgumery Yeah I don't own one. Can't wait for the night test!
Adam, how many square feet would you say it can clean before a charge is needed? This is a major point for me as the 90 min charge time could mean it would interfere with baby sleeping times.
We just ordered one of these.....you think the clear water bottle confuses the unit ? We were going to get the s9...but went with this instead
If you have pets which one would you get them? I can’t decide between s9 and this one
What do you think of amazon buying iRobot 1.7 billion.
The vent on the floor next to the Base will cause communication issues with the robot
What is the capacity of the dust tank in the robot?
I have a problem, if you have a solution for it, and it sends a message that I empty the dust container while it is still not full. What is the solution to this problem and in the application it tells me to wipe the internal sensor that is already inside the dust container, and therefore dust will reach it from the first operation of the vacuum cleaner, please help
Does it avoid objects WELL. Have schools stopped teaching grammar?
I love Romba
water bottle is clear color i think this is the reason.
This expensive things doesn’t actually vacuum, right? Just sweeps?
It vacuums too
Does it avoid objects well? ...
Hey, how is the J7+ for pet hair on hardwood floors?
I'm looking for the robot vacuum with the best avoidance. Which would you recommend?
This one is the best I have ever tested.
can you stream what your camera is seeing from the phone?
I need to know how this stands v the s9+ cause it it does about the same but can avoid poop it’s a instant buy
The make so much noise correct or got a broken one can you please tell me
Ugh! I just got the i7+ I hate you irobot! JK I really like my i7 but this is sweet.
how does this compare with the shark robot AI?
I disagree. It does have suction power. You see the marks on the rug. I have one.
Just give us the option for distance
What happened to the stress test
I will do one for this.
Is it possible the s9 gets this update? I been eyeing the s9 but now i think i like this one better
No. The s9 does not have the camera pointing to the floor. It did get updated with Careful Drive which avoids obstacles that are of a certain height.
It might but I have not heard anything.
Does the iRobot Roomba j7 require the $29/month Select membership to run it
No, thats only if you choose that plan. If you buy it from a store it will work just like normal
Does it avoid liquids, like pee, too?
I want see if it see black furniture
My j7 robot he saw my shoe he push it on the mat that my shoe is in the way
Pitch black TEST 🙋🏽♂️
It will not work just like the other roombas. The little led light is for poop detection to add more contrast to the image
Thanks for the feedback, still waiting for my boy Adam to post that pitch-black vid on the j7.
@@cesarnavarro2818 the iRobot rep told us it does not work in the dark, just like the other vslam Roombas
I think it would get on my tits hearing it constantly bumping into skirting boards. It doesn't have a sensor on the front to measure the distance to a solid object (even though the camera should be smart enough to work it out) My Roborock slows down as it approaches a solid object and then bumps it very gently with its bumper sensor.
It not programmed to avoid those things
Not yet.
“Avoid Objects Good”? Your English teacher would not be happy.
How loud is the self empty bin ?
Will do a test comparing the old one with this new one.
@@AdamsReviews thanks! I’m looking forward to all the test you will put this machine through.
Salsa and water
That
"Does it avoid object good?" Really?
Another expensive average robot from IRobot👏
I hope irobot will get an update so the flashlight can stay on only when it is dark
Maybe it bummps the cans cos it knows it can lol
1st
You should just get one of those fake plastic poo’s to test rather than one that is real
Looks like a toilet
Why buy this when you can get a Roborock :D
Coz the Roborock will eat cables. If you have a household with kids, LIDAR based stuff can only work as well as you pre-clean
@@TheDeepsilverThere are a number of LiDAR bots with obstacle avoidance. S6 MaxV and T8 AIVI come to mind for a similar camera system. Dreame L10 and N8 Pro have front laser obstacle detection, but my experience with them and cables, expecially flat ones isn't as good.
I feel like Irobot could release a hybrid AI-visual/Lidar robot in the future...
@@RN-hx1rs I listened to an interview with irobots CEO the future is lasers in cars but not sure about robots. He is hooked on camera-based navigation,
LIDAR is a fool’s errand… and anyone relying on LIDAR is doomed. - Elon Musk