Warm Audio Bus Compressor Vs SSL Bus Compressor I Shred Shed
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- Опубліковано 21 лют 2020
- We shot out the Warm Audio Bus Compressor Vs the ubiquidous SSL G Compressor.
Warm Audio Rock track- 0:02
SSL Rock track- 0:28
Warm Audio Singer Songwriter- 1:00
SSL Singer Songwriter- 4:36
Warm Audio Drums- 8:19
SSL Drums 9:16
Warm Audio Instrumental track- 10:13
SSL Instrumental track- 12:11
Warm Audio Punk track- 14:09
SSL Punk Track - 15:42
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Nice vid...thanks for taking the time to put this together.
Here is a funny thing. When I got out of engineering college in the late 1970s I got a job at dbx working for David Blackmer. I was tasked with testing and reworking some of the compressors that were used in pro studios. The funny thing is the qualities that made these compressors famous (years later) were the qualities Dave was trying to fix. So, you never know what the future holds for Warm Audio. Keep an open mind.
what an interesting pov. thank you !
Exactly there’s an engineer he said that back in the 60’s a Urei 1176 had and equivalent cost of a warm 1176
Got mine last week and I’m super glad I purchased it. Definitely added much needed life on my mix-bus and wile tracking drums individually as well as my hardsynths. Outstanding video. Subbed.
If you don't want to pay for the SSL name, just get the Audioscape G Series Bus Compressor. Hand made in USA, Costs $600 and it truly does hold up just as well as the SSL, you won't notice a difference.
Thanks for clear, quick comparisons. Perfect for gaining a really good idea for the gear is ACTUALLY capable of. thanks bro , I appreciate you.🤘🏽😎
Warm really glues and adds color in a pleasing way. I like how it brings out the reverb tails of the vocals too. SSL was very transparent. Adds some pleasant hi end. I think the Warm sounds more 3D and colored. SSL sounds very natural.
i think the same...
Wow I love that acoustic track, so so nice!
Thank you for the comparison. It helped me a lot.
Absolutely great video 👍 and shootouts!
There are no way to make sound bad the Warm Bus Comp...... Love it..
Thanks for the video, I'm thinking very seriously on this compressor.
Hey guys another great one👍🏾
Thank you for doing this video. Thank you for not talking all the way through it! I've never been a fan of the SSL, but the WA brings something new to the VCA table. Cheers
Glad it was helpful!
Dude, great, great video!!!!
WA has more like 3D effect on sound
I got mine last month its amazing!
For that money, the Warm Audio is amazing! i realy love the sound of it. And yes we all know SSL is SSL :)
You guys do the best shootouts. The SSL smacks in an undeniable way but Warm is really punching above its weight class. Thinking of getting one.
Ended up getting the Warm compressor yesterday, looking forward to bashing some tracks around
The Warm would be fun to own. It looks great and playing with it looks fun. Gonna buy it soon.
Makes the material sound like a record. nice.
I like the Warm Audio sound more with both buttons in.
The Warm seems like a great value and our ears get used to whatever we get familiar with. But on that vocal track the SSL sounds clearer, cleaner, more transparent. They both sound nice though.
this song is amazing!
buenísima la demostración
ok im getting one...cool vid thanks
Can’t wait to get mine!
Warm meets its name and amazing price always!
Damn! I have the WA412 (API clones) and they are really nice for drums, but this adds a smooth color to it.
For the price, the warm audio is a no brainer. i think ill get two.
Interesting!
Excellent comparison video! Wow. The Warm audio sounds better and seems more useful than the SSL!!!! What!? 😳
Very interesting. I found similar results with my SSL6. Clean SSL and the WA is a nice unit as well pushing more on the "warming effect". It does have its own colour that is of course a plus or negative depending on your ears and what you are aiming at achieving.
The SSL sounds so good 🔥
Wooow 😋 Warm Audio for this price is a Bigest King.Sound is sweet and big.i ve aleeady ordered
It seems like so many people have golden ears. I would love to see them in a blind audition. Thank you for the video! I would like Wesaudio in the battle here.
I love when people say that because at the end of the day thats what we do right? We have golden ears cause if you cant hear the difference between lets say slowing down the release on a compressor or speeding up the attack then you are really hindering your skills. Or even hearing eq moves you need to make, or hearing the subtle difference between at -1 or -2db cut. We make small adjustments all the time to make the overall track sound better. If you cant hear small difference and nuances then mixing and mastering music probably isnt the best thing to get into.
@@michaelrice6620 There are so many videos of blind comparisons and the posters are almost always wrong AND if they get it, it usually is a lucky guess. There are tests that mute the device as the engineer twists knobs and posters say all kinds of things when the device is %100 bypassed. I have seen it all. Watch some comparisons of guitar pickups where the guy changes pickups and the sound changed dramatically BUT he really changed cabinets and showed nothing. In the end, after changing mics, cabinets and amplifiers (without showing us) he changed ONLY the pickups, and WOW. No real change in tone. Great video. Some fun with people.
Preferred the Warm on the singer-songwriter track. It has a nice sound. The SSL is ultra clean, not much of a sound really, other than the compression action.
Warm audio sounds great but that SSL is the clear winner for me. So much more clarity with it
SSL by a good margin hey.
I want that Warm Bus Comp
Well I like your music!
Ssl a crisp as expected very good
Warm for like 30% of the ssl price is pretty good 🤭
Do you have the Dynaudio BM15a and the Adam a77x? If you have time, would you explain why you have both please? I have the BM15a and I was thinking of changing to the Adams. I'd love to know your thoughts! Thanks, Alex
Beautiful song! I'm finely sold on the warm audio
Love this fucking channel and this song, sooo good. The song sounds a lot like Rocky Votolato who is also rad.
Very good video, thanks a lot.
At some point you're turning off the comp (any of them) and quickly turning it back on... Seems like it sounds so much better with the compression that you're like "no way, I'm turning this back on". At least that's the feeling I had when watching, I felt I wanted to turn it back on everytime you're turning it off lol :)
just curious how do your prefer to send your tracks from your daw into the side chain input of this compressor ?
Great video but I would have loved to hear the warm vs the ssl without the transformers engaged longer so we could hear how the vca stand up
Loveeee my warm audio bus compressor.
@JDS music I record with a warm audio 73 preamp and pultec eq. I usually run my masters into the bus comp.
@JDS music I love the color or "mojo" the bus comp adds. It thickens audio sources out with certain settings..It's worth the price point. I was looking at the Louder than Liftoff Silver Bullet as well. Funny Thing, I purchased a IGS Tube core 3u for around $2000 and the warm audio Sounds way better. I returned the tubecore lol.
@JDS music NP
Have you tried the SA4000mk2 by Stam Audio? if Yes what's your opinion and which ssl clone do you think is Best!!!
Holy shit that SSL
It's amazing the life both of these give in 2 different ways. Love them both. On the drums I really liked both but the SSL had some serious mojo. Any chance you've tried the Warm on mono signals? I'm curious how it does and what it might be compared to. Great video.
can the warm audio be connected to pc and compress digital sounds in the daw?
Wow that ssl is nice
Hi. Is this compressor similar to the old dbx 160 ? Thanks a lot..
Because of your video I bought one of the warm audio 🥰 I combined it with the SSL Fusion. Together they are a great weapon , thank you 🙏
i just purchased the same combination
@@realiam1am 😂😂 I guess it was a good decision … are you satisfied with it?
@@jerrylmusic I use it as a 2bus chain. I'm happy with it
Damn im looking now bc i just got the fusion! Glad to hear u got great results. The ssl g comp is just half off right now so its a tricky one
Warm Audio is dope!!!
The SSL sounds amazing, the WARM sounds fantastic. BUT!!! the SSL is nearly four times the price! Plus you'll need to have a 500 series rack unit for the SSL! This is a hard one for me! if you are a pro mastering engineer the SSL is where you want to be, it's fully amazing. HOWEVER if you are semi-pro or just starting up with mastering having the WARM will definitely make life easier and be softer on the wallet.
Trust me , with the warm you can mastering like a pro without problem , the difference between this two is the character , not the quality and in this price range of Warm audio , you get the industry standard quality analog sound , warm is definitely a winner.
The warm is great....I’d probably want the SSL if money wasn’t an object but the warm was pleasing too. How can I find that song let it die to download/buy?
The engage transformers button on the WA stereo bus comp really works well for intimate acoustic tracks like this. However, I'm convinced that the SSL handles the transients better. It was really noticeable on the attack of that guitar. The knobs on the SSL aren't stepped, right?
The ratio, attack, and release are stepped. Only the threshold and make up gain are continuously variable.
I hold out hope each time a new Warm piece comes out and i’ve yet to be blown away. The Warm seems a better instrument group compressor than 2 buss. The SSL brings mix elements closer to the ear effortlessly. The Warm just colored the sound. From a price standpoint its apples to oranges, but as in most cases you get what you pay for. Great comparison..
I have some WA stuff. I really did not "get it" until I used it in mixes. Soloing any device is useless (unless you ONLY record a solo'ed track). It is in the mix that any device either is great, good or crap. You have to use it in your studio. UA-cam videos don't do justice to many devices.
I had an issue plagued WA76. Was never blown away by it. As far as what you can hear in a UA-cam video, there are clear differences in the two units that are readily apparent. The compressor overshoots in the WA comp doesn’t suit heavy transient laden material. The warm does a have a widening effect that the SSL does not. For these reasons i’d rather relegate the WA comp to instrument groups that are hard panned. It should make a solid guitar or synth comp. For 2bus duties there are probably better choices in the price range. Could you use this on a mix, sure. But offerings by TK Audio, Audioscape, Stam, Heritage Audio can be had used for as much or slightly more as the WA and would give better performance.
Are there any links or a way to hear more of the song/artist Michael Morgan and the song you used?
Seriously I want this song, such good lyrics and just sounds rad overall
one of the few songs i've ever heard on a demo video where i've actually wanted to listen to it lol
The SSL really does just present another level of quality above any hardware or software copies… the famous “snap” sure, but also 3 dimensional audio quality, no loss in body, everything is “glued” but somehow everything still feels “defined” rather than “melted together” like the Warm Audio does here... the signals get muddy. Could be charming if you’re looking for that.
I hate to say it but credit where credit is due… SSL still owns that sound. Sounds incredible. Sounds like a record.
Just my opinion regarding this specific tool.
The song at 1:00 is so amazing. Where can I buy it?
I’m not familiar with the music but the 500 series ssl comp does not really sound like the one I had in my 9k. Warm sounds insane. Love that company. I bought the XLogic G Series - The Compresso it’s on it way to my studio now. I’m gunna get that warm us it too it that good.
how does the warm compare to the x-logic for you? on program material and on drum bus
I like Warm and bigness on Warm but... SSL its only amaizing (the Punch and Glue)
does this only apply to busses?
Pretty good stuff, to my ear the SSL just way more tight and punchy, but the Warm has a really nice character to it, doesn’t really sound like it’s doing that SSL glue thing though, it’s just louder, running a little too much makeup gain on the Warm… Both are nice, and the price of the SSL I’ll make you sick it should be good for $4400…
I felt like the warm was adding a lot of mud whereas the ssl sounded cleaner. Then again the ssl is $2100 and the warm is $700.
Jake Burton the warm had a hpf that allows low end to go through the sidechain without affecting the compression circuit. More low end passes through without being squashed. It may come across as mud in this example bcause i didnt have a ton of time to audition settings but its a really nice feature to have.
Ah ok cool. Thank you for letting me know. Awesome video!
Jake Burton you should try the Audioscape Buss compressor. It’s about the same price as the Warm but I think it’s better !
Hey man man I got one an I’m trying to get it working with my UAD Apollo x4 is it suppose to go thru the mic and not the lines?
run the audio out, through the compressor, and print it back into your apollo
It should go in through the line ins on the apollo
When you close your eyes the gear really doesn't matter, ....beautiful music!....but of course it could sound better. For the individual tracks yeah big difference.
Seems to me that the Warm Audio unit is adding much more headroom or were the mixes not level matched?
Cause its mono I cant tell how they are affecting the stereo image/Width, is there anyway to get wav files ?
Nope, sorry man.
this video has definitely made me come to the conclusion that I don't want to cheap out on a mastering compressor. It's a lot more expensive and the difference is subtle, but if that whole thing is affecting the wholeee mix, I want it to sound amazing.
yeah, the warm is pretty trashy with the transformers in. works well on the punk song, but other than that, meh. i really like my chameleon labs 7721, which is about the same price and rather slept on, imo. i bet the x-logic does sound a hair better on many mixes, but then again, it has far fewer features: no 1.5:1 ratio, no sc hpf, no mix knob, no hard/soft knee switch, no peak/rms detector switch. for these reasons i may never own an ssl g comp. 7721 focuses the midrange in a way that i like. for my tube+transformer comp, i did spend a lot more on the IGS Tubecore 3U. but again, considering the features and options, it's also a bargain. what comps are catching your eye?
The trans is def prominent but I think it’s something that is designed in and why it’s switchable. I like that element actually.
@@dirkchurlish4074 too many to count lol. The IGS stuff looks pretty cool to me, and I like the price point. Interested in the API select series stuff too because it comes with the API name but isn't as priced out as their high end stuff. In a dream world I'd get a shadow hills. But sadly I'm probably stuck with plugins until I can work out a viable plan for how to afford owning a studio 😄 the hardest piece of studio gear to aquire so far is simply a place to have a studio in
@@PHELCAN i'm currently interesting in the SH Dual Vandergraph or maybe a vintage Gates compressor. not sure either would really be worth it, though. Check out OSS and Kolin by Analog Obsession, those are some legit compressor plug-ins I use sometimes (and they're free)
Thanks for the a/b. I like both. SSL is classic, but Warm for the price adding serious analog stamp, would maybe use it a little more judiciously than in the vid
They do different things so if I could only have 1 I'd take the SSL, That being said for $699 how can you pass up the Warm 2 buss
Warm sounds good on acoustic. But having a lunchbox makes me still want the SSL. But there are far more cheaper options in the 500 series. Not as cheap as warm. But around 1k or so.
Lol nothings as cheap as warm, lowest gear in the game IMO.
Gotta match those gains dude
6:45 on/off
definitely removes the blanket over the mix ~ I like the warm better
you didnt shoot out anything, the warm audio transformer was engaged EVERY TIME!!!!
You have to match the output gain.
SSL wins every time attitude, character and natural sounding! Remains with clarity even when the mixes get really busy as a pose to the warm audio. The Warm is audio is a good for its price, we all want to believe somewhere in our thoughts that something a lot cheaper is better and can compare. In most cases the SSL Bus compressor wins in facts. But maybe not in preference for some people. I think the Alan smart C2 gives the SSL a good challenge and that's hardly surprising as he was engineer at SSL for many years.
Sorry, it was hard for me to make a practical judgment due the mids being too harsh for me to send through a bus compressor only to add more gain resulting in an overbaked sound in the mid range. Nonetheless, SSL is king for a reason. They are not the ones cloning someone else's gear design, lol.
Thanks for taking the time to present this.
Hmmm are you overdriving your return bus for the Warm Audio? I just kept hearing nastry distorsion with the Warm, for instance at 1:50 and 4:12. I hope it's not lack of headroom in the comp because I've ordered one!
Yes - Did you end up finding the answer Mr Rodent :) ?
It sounds great, as we all expected. Very little differences to the SSL. But if you compare the townhouse bus compressor by brainworxs with the warm audio, the townhouse plugin sounds a tick better. Don't be biased by the tactile feeling of an analog unit with it's knobs. The townhouse blew me away from the first second I heard it. Give it a try if you want to save 750 Euro and above.
Townhouse is OK, but as with plugins-- it's the surgical manner that they do things that has an audibly displeasing effect.
The pumping action of an analog unit has a musical quality that plug-ins can't achieve, imo.
Plug-ins have come far though!
@@evanveiga8877 It's all about your personal taste. Most of the current music is produced entirely in the box. And probably a few are done analog. At the end it's a personal taste not a quality issue anymore.
@@NikolausBrocke well, if you mean through an expensive preamp, Usually with some dynamics leveling involved on the way in...avalon 737sp is incredibly popular.
So, I would say that you're right, but only partially.
Yes, most digital mixing is done in the box... but as far as dynamics processing goes? Plug-ins are used much less than outboard gear in any professional setting I've worked in when it comes to dynamics.
I'm not saying anything negative about plug-ins, this has just been my professional experience and the studios I've worked in.
But I would disagree wholeheartedly about the townhouse plugin sounding better.
Thanks for the chat! Always enjoy talking audio gear and hearing other opinions.
@@NikolausBrocke I don't know about "most" of it being produced in the box.. Top producers know what sounds good (obviously) and most of them have SSL desks and Neve, Manley, etc. racks. Some even put it to tape as well.
Bummer. Preferred the SSL on every example, even with the limited controls. Way more cohesion and transient punch. Warm doesn't sound like it was doing a whole lot except make the mix muddy. I saw that you didn't have the hpf engaged though but I wasn't hearing much snap/punch like when the SSL was engaged. I thought the Warm sounded okay on the punk mix. Same thing like their other compressors, just not quite there imo.
There's a tiny increase in the overall sound compared to the warm audio... money wise you would think it's not worth spending 3 times more for a little bit of a better sound... but that little bit is the diffrence of what makes a really good track.... the money is worth it for the SSL, but you're not getting something rubbish with the warm audio... if I get the wrm audio, the idea would be to up grade at some point... and then the warm audio would find welcome home on a bus... for matiral to huge other parts meant to stand out
Came here cus i wanted to like the warm .. i mean its not bad.. but to coloured not what u want from a mastering / mixbuscomp. Alot of people here be like its so warm.. i call that muddy.. not warm. Came here cus i need to make a decision SSL Fusion and a warm or the SSL bus+ ... think im going for the bus+
The warm audio has more width than the ssl
Wow SSL kills WARM.SSL does not sound so obvious compressed,it sound more natural.
But does it kill at 2 x's the price? I'd really like to see a blind test..
@@geoffreymerrifield5666 I will spend more money for SSL.SSL is still the king.
The last song is good
Yea SSL definitely sounds better. That's funny because when I got my hands on the Warm I felt the same way. It just didn't have the it factor
ssl ....best
What's your verdict between two 😊
AlexEMusic the warm is waaay better. more flexible with the hpf and switchable transformers.
@@ShredShed Just bought one because of this video
Leisure Muffin nice!! Warm did a killer job with this
@@ShredShed Such a wide and warming, to the face sound, love it!
Well, I'm not sure exactly what everyone else is hearing here, but through my headphones the WA has a depth of richness that the DBX is just missing. I'm very well aware of the extensive measures that WA has went to, to create something extraordinary, and this is clearly revealing that to me here.
The warm sounds better for punk . More dirty and more balls on drums and guitars . The ssl on punk sounds so 90s punk .
To me the SSL is not only the better choice but unless you plan on buying 5 of these (you might for your busses or stems) but if you needed just 1 it’s also the better bargain. Buying the Warm Audio only to plan to replace it and eventually get the SSL is just wasting time and money and the hassle of selling the WA (unless you’ll use it for something else). How much extra time will it really take most people to get the SSL vs just getting the WA? 2-4 months? I’ve personally been happiest buying the right thing the first time rather than trying to cover it with the budget version I’ll eventually replace especially when the difference isn’t multi-thousands.
I disagree. The difference doesn't justify the price tag, not at all. I am always for the better quality, I own 2 Dangerous Music pieces for example, but here there is no difference in quality, and the price difference is enormous. Big time the WARM Audio
It's an easy choice to make if you can afford the difference. Many people are just scraping by and looking to improve while staying on a budget. The price difference is easily a month's rent or more.
Might agree if the SSL had the HPF to bypass lower frequencies.
Not a apples to apples comparison IMO , should have either both rack units or either equal 500 series .
No competition ! SSl wipes floor with it. Warm audio throwing LM/M bump on everything.
Care to elaborate? Not targeted at OP but A bit tired of those random "sounds better" type of comments. Feeling the differences between VCA-based compressors is not something you can randomly "get" nor is it anything that obvious. "Clearly sounds better" - Yeah, right. I bet a quick listen to any of the mixes of these overnight sound experts would prove their ears are not as fine tuned as what they'd have us believe 👍 Maybe a good principle could be: If most people don't recognise your mixes as sounding outstanding, please think twice before asserting how good anything sounds
SSL sure is transparent!
The SSL is so much cleaner, punchier and transparent. The warm adds a low mid. For the price the warm is ok.
Get the audio scape g bus compressor
The SSL one clearly sounds better, but honestly doesn’t sound $1500 better to me. Warm makes great budget stuff
Said the overnight sound expert whose mixes would probably have us run for our lives. I guess Thanks for the input anyway