Having Wanda become the Scarlett Witch at same time as He Who Remains crossing the boundary is very cool; but him dropping a stone at the *Exact* time Agatha drops to the ground; Holy crap that is wild, that syncs up amazingly too much to be a coicidence
It’s gotta be synced on purpose. Him being a nexus being, must know about Wanda because she’s one too. Why would he randomly just pick up and drop the stone at the same time Agatha falls? He knows Agatha has been defeated and Wanda becomes the scarlet witch
even with the difference of a whole second, this is too perfect to be a coincidence. it must also mean that 11 years have passed since Loki arrived at the TVA
@@TakoBoi123 loki got caught by the TVA in 2012 and the current timeline of the mcu is 2023 cause infinity war happend on 2018 and five years have passed so it's 2023 in the mcu and mobius said that time passes differently in the tva.
@@TakoBoi123 New York was in 2012. Thanos happened in 2018 and 5 years later, in 2023, everyone came back. Probably like a couple of weeks after that, Wanda created the Hex
@@lunaargentum1743 the endgame timeline was already set in stone, and where the TVA is, time doesn’t exist, and where Kang stopped knowing about time, at the end of time
It's because scarlett witch is a nexus being. One of few in charge of the multiverse. So her realizing her true power is what started the first branch in loki
@@crunchynapkin71 The Ancient One, being the Sorcerer Supreme before Strange, knew he was supposed to be the best of them. And she couldn’t even see past her own death! Even if the MCU hasn’t stated it outright, it was at least a few years after the events of Doctor Strange before we see him again in Thor Ragnarok and Infinity War and we can assume he didn’t have his fingers up his ass during all that time. He’s even wearing the Eye of Agamotto - that basically signifies the Sorcerer Supreme. Look even if they haven’t said that he is outright just yet, who else would be the goddamn Sorcerer Supreme?
@@averyjenson Nobody is the Sorcerer Supreme, since he was never called by anyone else nor by himself the Sorcerer Supreme, nobody isnt. End of Discussion In the comics, there was once a time there was no Sorcerer Supreme. This is basically the case, untold Strange takes the mantle *officially*
And just after this, when He Who Remains takes off the time thing on his hand and puts it on the table and says “I love all this honesty, feels like a fresh start.” And he just stares at it. That’s when Wanda tells Vision “not for us” and the town goes back to normal. I think this theory makes sense. When I was watching Loki this part was confusing but if He Who Remains is talking about things that are happening elsewhere the apparent randomness and the way the camera focuses in on him makes a lot more sense.
He’s also clearly toying with Loki and Sylvie too, because he wants a variant of him to take over - he gives them the gambit as a joke because he knows if it isn’t specifically him in charge, it’ll be some other Kang. That’s also why he plants the seeds of doubt between the two of them because if they did keep working together they would have the upper hand in keeping that from happening. Why wouldn’t he plan everything before crossing the threshhold - he would have to know that would be an inherent risk of another Kang taking over. He wanted these things to happen the way they did.
@@alechardine5014a few rocks? That’s like saying “black widow just died to a little fall” Wanda has never been established to have super strength or anything. She’s always been powerful on offense but regular human on defense. I know that it’s been confirmed she survived, but it’ll still dumb as hell.
Damn I can feel that in No Way Home the reason Dr. Strange's spell rippled is not because of Peter but because they went pass the threshold that kang mentioned in loki and the fact that one of the nexus that is in charge of the multiverse changed.
WAIT...Please explain it to me. And explain it like you are explaining it to a 5 year old. All these time travel, multiverse shit is really messing my mind, and I just want to make sense of it all.
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when kang says that he couldn't remember anything what's gonna happen in the next second or something like that, makes me realiZe how powerful wanda could be
I totally agree it just goes to show that Wanda can disrupt the entire flow of time. When Agatha told her "You don't know what you've unleashed" I was just wondering: WHAT DID SHE UNLEASH!?!? Now it makes sense
I'm curious what the extent of power Wanda can weild with chaos magic is. If her power is enough to make branches happen absolutely everywhere at once in a brief second and she can change reality to suit almost whatever she wants, then she's truly a force to be feared by He who remains. It's hard to believe Wanda is capable of weilding all that multiversal chaos power all by herself. Still I imagine she'd get crushed by a variant Kang if she were alone.
If you look closely, starting at 1:12 when Wanda starts drawing the chaos from Agatha, the room kang is in and the sky outside starts glowing red, and stops exactly when Wanda drops Agatha. This is perhaps the greatest Easter egg that will ever exist in marvel.
No, it wasnt startins red, it was red from the beginning. Dude, watch the video carefully and remember the author of this video could put Wanda scene either on left and right. Your theory doesn't have any sense
Notice how right when Wanda becomes the scarlet witch, on the right in the window there is a red glow, and he who remains crosses the threshold of knowing what will happen. Also at the same time He who remains drops something, Agatha drops to the ground. Plus, after Agatha says “oh god.. you don’t know what you’ve done” he who remains chuckles. Edit: I honestly forgot I made this comment but I’m proud I did.
@@simplyrhino_ idk, her armour and clothing is usual maroon-ish but her eyes and magic light up a more crimson red, or perhaps scarlet red, hence the name
Kang: ruins ( 0:34 ) Agithat: runes? ( 0:35 ) - At the same time- Kang: tell the workforce who they are and why they do, what they do. ( 0:36 ) Wanda: in a given space only the wich who cast them (runes) can use her magic. ( 0:37 ) After- Wanda: But I don't need you to tell me, who, I am. ( 0:48 ) - at the same time- Wanda: *becoming The Scarlet witch* ( 1:02 ) Kang: *stops what he is saying looks around knowing something's off* ( 1:27 ) - we just crossed the thresh hold. (after Wanda fully transformed into The Scarlet wich) *smiles looking at Wanda/The Scarlet witch* ( 1:48 ) - At the same time- Kang:*drops something* Agitha:*falls to the ground* ( 2:08 ) - Kang: So I feel ( 2:15 ) (Sorry it's so long I just thought this was cool and interesting!)
Wait, this actually makes a lot of sense! Agatha said Wanda being the scarlett witch means she weilds chaos as her magic, and that she is destined to destroy the world. The only thing that could truly break the careful planning of He Who Remains and the sacred timeline is pure chaos incarnate, so it makes sense that Wanda stepping into her full power and embracing her chaos would be the reason why He Who Remains can't see or plan past that point!
Actually this theory fits perfectly because Disney plus has aligned the movies and shows as seperate MCU timeline where Loki is the first series and WandaVision and FalconATWS is after And notice when Agatha said in 8th episode: you were supposed to be myth...it chaos magic wanda..that makes you Scarlet Witch > Now add this with loki 4th episode where Sylvie says to loki... universe wants to break free so it manifests Chaos...So my theory is that universe gave that chance to Wanda... big enough to break all the boundaries of TVA aka he who remains... because she literally Chaos magic to alter the reality.
@@ivanplays6038 the universe chose the main to branch off if, the timelines Loki and Sylvie are from were destroyed, there was no branches, so there was only one Wanda for the universe to choose
@@ivanplays6038 The TVA lies outside the sacred timeline. The TVA, Loki and Sylvie jumps through different timelines. Therefore, the show Loki has no timeline. Time doesn't work on TVA.
@@MainRapperACEsahi That and the fact that all of time is monitored and time means nothing, and how spin off timelines can happen anywhere along time, that's why its possible that Wanda being am entity of choas, caused chaos to be released along the timeline, shattering it, it doesn't actually matter where Loki takes outside of time
em.. its multiverse and kang was at the end of time and tva is not set on timeline so it doesnt matter actually if loki is before or after some mcu series or movie..
Notice in the beginning he has his hands in the same gestures as them. First the right hand of Wanda then both hands of Agatha. And when he says "we're all villains here", refers to the 3 of them but could also include Wanda and Agatha.
What I notice sync in this 2 scene: - Fibbed and Ascendant feel like completing each other note and instrument as 2 piece of soundtrack each actually did missing its 'component' - When Immortus say "murderer! hypocrite!!" perfectly lined up with Agatha saying "no, no, no".. also when Immortus say "return to the TVA as its benevolent ruler".. Agatha word sound like she is completing what he say by saying "runes".. thus it seem like it is implying the actual word is "ruler of the runes of time and space" - outside the window suddenly glow bright red when Wanda about to get her Scarlet Witch costume - when Wanda making that hand gesture.. at the same time.. a thunder can be heard outside the citadel.. making it seem like Wanda is sending a signal to certain being (it is likely can be felt by Doctor Strange or cosmic being such as the Watcher and celestials as well) - Immortus staring at the left side of his citadel interior make it look like he is witnessing Wanda become Scarlet Witch.. notice the subtle red lightning on his face - this 2 scene also synced with Spider-Man: No Way Home and Venom 2 as well
- That variant isn't Immortus. He's very clearly He Who Remains. I think we will get Immortus in Loki season 2. - Ruler of the runes of time and space" makes no sense. Another stretch on these 2 pieces of dialogue would be that Agatha asks a clarifying question "runes?". Then Wanda explains her runes while He Who Remains talks about informing the TVA. The stretch could be that when Wanda is explaining her runes in WandaVision, she also just completed casting runes outside of time and space which allowed her to change the timeline and control it at will. - There was always red in the Loki scene. You can see it outside before the WandVision clip starts and you can see the tint on Sylvie as the camera zooms out and then when it focuses on Loki & Sylvie. The tint was always there. - The direction the characters are staring is inconsequential. The author of this video could have placed the Loki clip on the left and WandaVision on the right, or played one clip above the other. I think this would be next level genius if this was all planned and intended by Feige but this could have been circumstance. Along with Spider-Man NWH, the 3 all involve manipulating the timeline and reality.
@@mungle3086 Oh you are going to have to be way more specific than "thingy" and using a pronoun. I have no clue what you are talking about since my comment was from a year ago.
@@mungle3086 That means nothing. The video creator was the one who timed it, meaning they were able to choose when the drop happened. There's no confirmation that these events are synced and there's nothing to allude to it.
If this was intentional this is awesome attention to detail, if it was not intentional this is one of the greatest coincidences ever. I love this so much!
If you think about it, it makes sense that the side with Loki is one second in front of the one with WandaVision, since He who Remains can (from my understanding, correct me if im wrong) foretell what's about to happen (almost like he says what will happen next). So, when he does certain things it foretells what will happen with Wandavision.
Two of the best TV series of the year syncing with one another in the same universe.... just chills! I'm guessing Kang senses the Sacred Timeline has stopped/is unravelling, just that he doesn't know who (the Scarlet Witch)
Holy crap, I actually have tears in my eyes the second time watching this. Because of its perfection. Because of its beauty in the folding back and forth that the MCU has done so brilliantly. New material ripples out and resonates with previous material, making all of it richer. This forever changes the end of WandaVision to be even more grand. Okay, and it's Christophe Beck's friggin' score reminding me how much I loved WandaVision and that moment when she came into being. Fun Fact: Wanda has never met Loki in the movies.
Makes sense. Chaos is what causes change, and with Scarlet Witch this amount of chaos energy and with no one to keep the changes pruned, it causes the universe to branch out.
Since Kang was He who Remains it makes 100%sense that he has stopped many Wanda's from becoming the Scarlett Witch since she would be a Nexus being. This syncs so beautifully. Right down to the thunder when Wanda becomes The Scarlett Witch, to the glow of red in the window, how he reacts like he heard Agathas words. Just beautiful
@@Dxllazit means that in every Timeline, events are conspired so that Wanda doesn't become the Scarlet Witch. For instance, in the 838 Timeline, Wanda was lobotomised by Professor X, stopping her from becoming the Scarlet Witch. Kang has made sure the Scarlet Witch does not come into existence as her mere presence would cause Nexus Events and cause the perfect balance and continuum of the multiverse as designed by Kang to collapse. However the Scarlet Witch ultimately comes into being at the 'threshold of the chaos' that Kang refers to. She is that threshold, the event that made the multiverse go crazy.
@@TheScarletKing01 Bingo, that's the part people are forgetting. I think the reason she'll disappear for a while after Multiverse of Madness is because she was meant to come back and defeat Kang, who was hinted at in Shang Chi, then brought out in Loki and Quantumania.
@@deenine exactly what I was going to say. The drops were off by 1 second but it's still very impressive on Marvel's part. Just the fact that they included He Who Remains dropping the stone so the audience could recognize later that both series were running in parallel.
That's cool actually, this is the type of detail you can only put on big shared universe story. But then they proceeded to absolutely fumble every bag after this.
Wow. Love that it looks like Kang is literally watching Wanda turn into the Scarlet Witch with the lighting and timing. It’s eerie how uncanny it is when he turns his head
Update since Loki season 2 and The Marvels, this theory is partly true. Loki is now Time, Wanda is Reality, and Monica is Space. I believe Dr. Strange is going to be the Soul stone because it completes his character arch. In many movies he has sacrificed his life up for others and I believe he creates the final spell of the Soul stone which asks of a sacrifice. I also think the power stone may be associated with Galactus or Black Panther based on vibranium which stores energy or maybe Quill who once held the Power stone. I think the mind stone will be Jean Grey or Professor X.
this reminds me of something i saw a LONG time ago. or rather, something i heard. "at the drop of a stone, a person will fall. but at the fall of my rule, then shall the world know true chaos."
0:49 Look closely at the window behind Kang and when Wanda was about to transform into the Scarlet Witch, the reflections on the window started glowing red. This is a hint that Wanda can somehow manipulate the timeline and break it, and also when you align the part where the multiverse was branching, and Wanda heard her children screaming for help. This means that when the multiverse broke, Wanda now can telepathically message and receive from her children even though they're a creation of nothing. The epic part is that Wanda is a nexus being, therefore, He Who Remains Felt the presence of Wanda transforming, and it may be that he created another timeline to save the multiverse from being broken or branched. (Also a bonus theory of mine) NOTE: (This is just a theory of mine so don't attack me) It may be that Wanda can create another multiverse at her Will and emotions, but Kang can do it too. And also, Wandavision is at 2023 whilst Loki is at the end of time, but what I am thinking is that if Wanda bends reality at her will and emotions, then it will branch The multiverse, even if at the end of time. In Doctor Strange, before going into the dark dimension, we heard Doctor Stephen Strange say, "At the end of time." which means that Dormammu is still present on the earth, but the sorcerer supreme "guides" the unknown threats not yet discovered by the avengers, but what happens if the sorcerer supreme dies? Then, Dormammu can branch the timeline.
@@justazurb1793 In the comics (and other Marvel movies outside MCU, tv shows and games) she and Quicksilver are the son and daughter of Mangeto of the X-men
That was eerie as fuck haha. I loved it. One question, and I’m being sincere, what made you go back and look for this? I get curious when people point out things that we forget long after the fact like how the end credits scene in Wandavision was changed recently.
@@agustinoliva1748 I don’t know personally but there’s videos saying the end credits scene on Wandavision was tweaked significantly enough that some people noticed right away and made side by side videos about it. It happened about a month ago I think, just before Loki premiered.
so Studios Wil leak shit like this all the time pretending to be a fan who had a theory. this gets people talking about their product and wanna re-watch it. it starts off as maybe an anonymous reddit post and gains traction from there
The credits changed. It now mentions “music from *Dr. Strange* ” at the very end of the credits , when the last episode initially aired. That wasn’t there. There was also mention of a shadowy sort of figure coming in from the left mountains as the camera zooms into the cabin, assuming its Dr. Strange flying in since they’ll both be in his next movie, but i think its just a water drop effect on the lens.
I noticed the thunders in Loki immeadiately and remembered them from Wandavision. I've watched all of WandaVision 4 times and the last episode 10 times :)
yeah i thought it was kinda weird cause he floated down around that time and everybody was asking questions. also we gotta remember time isn't linnear anymore in the MCU.
The nexus event is so big that it broke up and open multiverse which makes Kang (in Loki) need to restart. Also there's should be one nexus being in one parallel universe since the born of SW 'He whos remain' has to step down.
Watching this in 2024 and realizing how we actually thought the MCU writing was still this tight is actually hilarious. Nothing is actually connected or makes any sense anymore.
I have the perfect explanation for this! In that moment the Kang from Ant-Man escapes out of the Quantum realm and the He who remains version felt that 😱
Can’t wait to see them piece this together the way they always do through flash backs gonna be a fun entertaining few years…. Nice break since Endgame time to ramp it up again
Yo! You're right!!!! So.... MAYBE that is also what throws Strange off when he's casting the spell in the next Spiderman movie. Not just Peter distracting him? But Scarlet Witches power...? 🤔
Also, when He Who Remains tells Sylvie to grow up, the little orphan girl we watched become the most powerful being in the universe...she does just that❤️❤️❤️
Is this a small hint that Wanda is the one to end Kang? He Who Remains crosses a threshold he no longer knows what’s going to happen next once the Scarlet Witch comes to being. Maybe that signifies his variants end.
I hope Loki gets a really badass scene at the end of his show like Wanda did at the end of Wandavision. Also, imagine how cool it would be if Wanda and Loki and/or Sylvie teamed up. They are all willing to distort reality itself to achieve their goals, so it would make sense.
To the folks saying these probably aren't connected the usual rule in marvel is that "no two nexus beings can exist on the same plane of reality, and can only project onto other realms with an active nexus being as an apparition." So chances are he most definitely noticed when she gained her full power
People think that nexus being has only one neaning which is cannot erasable but the actual meaning is any person or thing with the power and capability to drastically affect probability and the timeline.Peoples are so good at not doing any research and copying
Turns out this was just coincidences. It would be cool if these shows and movies are actually linked together and culminate in Doctor Strange 2. It's literally called Multiverse of Madness ffs. Like why is every show deals with the same concept of Multiverse but refused to connect to one another? Each movie has their own reasons for their Multiverse events. Doctor Strange happens because Wanda, No way Home happens because Strange fucked up the spell. Loki happens when Slyvie kills He Who Remains. And they gave another reason for Kang on Quantumania Why didn't they just write it so everything happens because of Slyvie? It would make more sense they reintroducing the same concepts a bit differently. At first we thought Pietro being played by Evan Peters would be the first sign of the multiverse but turns out its a dick joke.
Imagine if all the events are actually interconnected, starting off with Pietro being from the Fox Xmen, and explain it by Slyvie killing He Who Remains. Which leads to the stuff in Doctor Strange MOM, No way Home and Quantumania.
I KNEW I wasn't the only one who thought these scenes went well together, I made almost the same video on my main account and it gained zero traction. For three years I thought I was going crazy because I didn't see anyone else talking about it! I would link my video but I guess I deleted it
who else thinks this happens the same time as when the skies cracked at the end of no way home. or maybe at the same time dr strange first casts the spell.
just read some stuff. and looks like NWH (2023) happens after wandavision (2022). but we know that time is different in loki especially they were in the void where the timeline is circular.
and yeah also read somewhere that this might be the beacon in shang-chi mid-credit scene. lots of stuff is happening can't wait for the multiverse of madness. kang is coming 😱
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He Who Remains does have experiences with runes which is why there were runes in the room with the Time Keepers
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Having Wanda become the Scarlett Witch at same time as He Who Remains crossing the boundary is very cool; but him dropping a stone at the *Exact* time Agatha drops to the ground; Holy crap that is wild, that syncs up amazingly too much to be a coicidence
He did say he's manipulated everything.
So I wonder if that's him showing one of his keys players are down
And when scarlet witch moves the hand he who remains moves the head
I thought this was just a random theory but holy shit it's actually perfect
It’s out of sync by a second
It’s gotta be synced on purpose. Him being a nexus being, must know about Wanda because she’s one too. Why would he randomly just pick up and drop the stone at the same time Agatha falls? He knows Agatha has been defeated and Wanda becomes the scarlet witch
even with the difference of a whole second, this is too perfect to be a coincidence. it must also mean that 11 years have passed since Loki arrived at the TVA
Wait 11 years? Where does that come from?
@@TakoBoi123 loki got caught by the TVA in 2012 and the current timeline of the mcu is 2023 cause infinity war happend on 2018 and five years have passed so it's 2023 in the mcu and mobius said that time passes differently in the tva.
@@TakoBoi123 New York was in 2012. Thanos happened in 2018 and 5 years later, in 2023, everyone came back. Probably like a couple of weeks after that, Wanda created the Hex
@@lunaargentum1743 the endgame timeline was already set in stone, and where the TVA is, time doesn’t exist, and where Kang stopped knowing about time, at the end of time
So technically Loki was brought to the future
The fact Kang said “ruins” and then Agatha followed with “runes” is terrifying
He says rulers
He said rulers lol not ruins
*rulers but yeah
he said rulers, not sure if you noticed
Just letting you guys know he said rulers
It's because scarlett witch is a nexus being. One of few in charge of the multiverse. So her realizing her true power is what started the first branch in loki
@RatioKing wanda is more powerful remember” your power exceeds that of the sorcerer supreme “ When she read the dark hold
@RatioKing dude agatha literally says the scarlet witch’s power outweighs that of the sorcerer supreme, so no, he’s not
@@averyjenson Strange isnt the Sorcerer Supreme, he never titled himself as being it nor was he called that.
@@crunchynapkin71 The Ancient One, being the Sorcerer Supreme before Strange, knew he was supposed to be the best of them. And she couldn’t even see past her own death! Even if the MCU hasn’t stated it outright, it was at least a few years after the events of Doctor Strange before we see him again in Thor Ragnarok and Infinity War and we can assume he didn’t have his fingers up his ass during all that time. He’s even wearing the Eye of Agamotto - that basically signifies the Sorcerer Supreme.
Look even if they haven’t said that he is outright just yet, who else would be the goddamn Sorcerer Supreme?
@@averyjenson Nobody is the Sorcerer Supreme, since he was never called by anyone else nor by himself the Sorcerer Supreme, nobody isnt. End of Discussion
In the comics, there was once a time there was no Sorcerer Supreme. This is basically the case, untold Strange takes the mantle *officially*
It look like He who remains is literally "watching" Wanda transforming into the Scarlet Witch simultanously
Dude I was thinking that too he lowkey sounds distracted and frustrated
@@clorkclorkss9692lol
@clorkclorkss9692 I would be fustrated to with the ass pull of a plot that the shitty writing of wandavision had
@@popisolation you disliked wandavision?
@@popisolation You spelled Multiverse of Madness wrong
just wait till they sync this with no way home and idk what else
I also cant wait for that sync
newrockstars had a video with this sync with shang chi and no way home when strange blows the spell
@@autoctony drop a link plz?
@@autoctony link pls
no way home is months after endgame. wandavision is a few weeks after endgame
And just after this, when He Who Remains takes off the time thing on his hand and puts it on the table and says “I love all this honesty, feels like a fresh start.” And he just stares at it. That’s when Wanda tells Vision “not for us” and the town goes back to normal. I think this theory makes sense. When I was watching Loki this part was confusing but if He Who Remains is talking about things that are happening elsewhere the apparent randomness and the way the camera focuses in on him makes a lot more sense.
He’s also clearly toying with Loki and Sylvie too, because he wants a variant of him to take over - he gives them the gambit as a joke because he knows if it isn’t specifically him in charge, it’ll be some other Kang. That’s also why he plants the seeds of doubt between the two of them because if they did keep working together they would have the upper hand in keeping that from happening. Why wouldn’t he plan everything before crossing the threshhold - he would have to know that would be an inherent risk of another Kang taking over. He wanted these things to happen the way they did.
@@averyjenson I guess it is safe to say Loki and Sylvie got Dumbledored
@@averyjenson so why did he keep time tidy all that… time?
@@fewntug3760 last resort. this is not verifiable fact, just my interpretation lol.
I can see He Who Remains operating like Dr. Manhattan when it comes to being in the past, present, and future all at the same time.
Marvel and the Producers know what they're doing, and they're good at it. Amazing
No they don't. This didn't amount to anything. Wanda died in Multiverse Of Madness. Strange fixed everything. There were no consequences.
@@vincesergi7339 You really think she died from a few rocks? She also isn't dead. Elizabeth Olsen's contact was extended for 7 more years.
@@vincesergi7339 she's not dead, there was a red glow when the rocks fell on her assuming she teleporting somewhere or someone saved her, who knows???
@@vincesergi7339wanda never died bruh
@@alechardine5014a few rocks? That’s like saying “black widow just died to a little fall”
Wanda has never been established to have super strength or anything. She’s always been powerful on offense but regular human on defense.
I know that it’s been confirmed she survived, but it’ll still dumb as hell.
Damn I can feel that in No Way Home the reason Dr. Strange's spell rippled is not because of Peter but because they went pass the threshold that kang mentioned in loki and the fact that one of the nexus that is in charge of the multiverse changed.
Wish they would have referenced that in the film...or maybe they will in Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness
@@andremotivation6561 there is gonna be one…
No he messed up the spell because the strange we all know is not at that power level yet
WAIT...Please explain it to me. And explain it like you are explaining it to a 5 year old. All these time travel, multiverse shit is really messing my mind, and I just want to make sense of it all.
@@ab294ab I'd suggest watching Avengers 1, through endgame and really pay attention. Don't look at your phone and don't go off and do other things while the movie plays
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when kang says that he couldn't remember anything what's gonna happen in the next second or something like that, makes me realiZe how powerful wanda could be
I totally agree it just goes to show that Wanda can disrupt the entire flow of time. When Agatha told her "You don't know what you've unleashed" I was just wondering: WHAT DID SHE UNLEASH!?!? Now it makes sense
I mean, in the comics, Wanda created an whole entire new universe just because she didn’t like how her earth was going
I'm curious what the extent of power Wanda can weild with chaos magic is. If her power is enough to make branches happen absolutely everywhere at once in a brief second and she can change reality to suit almost whatever she wants, then she's truly a force to be feared by He who remains. It's hard to believe Wanda is capable of weilding all that multiversal chaos power all by herself. Still I imagine she'd get crushed by a variant Kang if she were alone.
@@likeapro4242 danm she really said "fuck it ill do it myself"
It's the whole point of Chaos magic, to make the impossible, possible. What she believes, happens. THAT power is frightening in the wrong hands.
If you look closely, starting at 1:12 when Wanda starts drawing the chaos from Agatha, the room kang is in and the sky outside starts glowing red, and stops exactly when Wanda drops Agatha.
This is perhaps the greatest Easter egg that will ever exist in marvel.
No, it wasnt startins red, it was red from the beginning. Dude, watch the video carefully and remember the author of this video could put Wanda scene either on left and right. Your theory doesn't have any sense
It was the red from the very *start* though?
Delulu asf
Ok, they didnt know so like actuallly shush@@arianzidaneofficial
Notice how right when Wanda becomes the scarlet witch, on the right in the window there is a red glow, and he who remains crosses the threshold of knowing what will happen.
Also at the same time He who remains drops something, Agatha drops to the ground.
Plus, after Agatha says “oh god.. you don’t know what you’ve done” he who remains chuckles.
Edit: I honestly forgot I made this comment but I’m proud I did.
where is the glow?
nvm i found it
Wow
I realised for Agatha's fall but for the rest omg you're so right
Time stamp
The fact that their is a red light on his face and he literally stops from interacting with Loki and sylvie is crazy.
1:47 this sync fricking perfectly damn
Notice Wandas signature colour over his right shoulder out the window to 🤔
Oh
My
God
That was there pretty much the entire time tho, no? it's barely even a change
What signature color?
@@simplyrhino_ idk, her armour and clothing is usual maroon-ish but her eyes and magic light up a more crimson red, or perhaps scarlet red, hence the name
@@SoakieCat that’s the color of the lightning from the stream stream lightning looking thing though
1:59 has me asking so many questions. She sent out some sort of signal or wave to every powerful being in the mcu. Fucking incredible
No lol she just cleared the sky that’s all. Good theory though.
@@kelvins2590 doubt it
she uses chaos magic which breaks the universe then opens multiverses and then creates new danger and creates new opportunity ( if u know wat i mean )
The little hand motion? I don’t think so. I feel like her herself is alarming enough to every powerful being in the MCU.
Kang: ruins ( 0:34 )
Agithat: runes? ( 0:35 )
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At the same time-
Kang: tell the workforce who they are and why they do, what they do. ( 0:36 )
Wanda: in a given space only the wich who cast them (runes) can use her magic. ( 0:37 )
After-
Wanda: But I don't need you to tell me, who, I am. ( 0:48 )
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at the same time-
Wanda: *becoming The Scarlet witch* ( 1:02 )
Kang: *stops what he is saying looks around knowing something's off* ( 1:27 ) - we just crossed the thresh hold. (after Wanda fully transformed into The Scarlet wich) *smiles looking at Wanda/The Scarlet witch* ( 1:48 )
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At the same time- Kang:*drops something*
Agitha:*falls to the ground* ( 2:08 )
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Kang: So I feel ( 2:15 )
(Sorry it's so long I just thought this was cool and interesting!)
he said "ruler", not "ruins". the entire sentence was describing him as "benevolent ruler"
The fact that He Who put a little smile and a ":o" face right after Wanda pops up with the Scarlet Witch outfit, makes everything more interesting.
As soon as Wanda turned into the Scarlet Witch, Kang is like oh shoot. I didn’t expect that.
Wait, this actually makes a lot of sense! Agatha said Wanda being the scarlett witch means she weilds chaos as her magic, and that she is destined to destroy the world. The only thing that could truly break the careful planning of He Who Remains and the sacred timeline is pure chaos incarnate, so it makes sense that Wanda stepping into her full power and embracing her chaos would be the reason why He Who Remains can't see or plan past that point!
Actually this theory fits perfectly because Disney plus has aligned the movies and shows as seperate MCU timeline where Loki is the first series and WandaVision and FalconATWS is after
And notice when Agatha said in 8th episode: you were supposed to be myth...it chaos magic wanda..that makes you Scarlet Witch > Now add this with loki 4th episode where Sylvie says to loki... universe wants to break free so it manifests Chaos...So my theory is that universe gave that chance to Wanda... big enough to break all the boundaries of TVA aka he who remains... because she literally Chaos magic to alter the reality.
Only Loki is a separate timeline.
@@ivanplays6038 the universe chose the main to branch off if, the timelines Loki and Sylvie are from were destroyed, there was no branches, so there was only one Wanda for the universe to choose
@@ivanplays6038 The TVA lies outside the sacred timeline. The TVA, Loki and Sylvie jumps through different timelines. Therefore, the show Loki has no timeline. Time doesn't work on TVA.
@@MainRapperACEsahi That and the fact that all of time is monitored and time means nothing, and how spin off timelines can happen anywhere along time, that's why its possible that Wanda being am entity of choas, caused chaos to be released along the timeline, shattering it, it doesn't actually matter where Loki takes outside of time
em.. its multiverse and kang was at the end of time and tva is not set on timeline so it doesnt matter actually if loki is before or after some mcu series or movie..
Marvel to its writers: fans are liking this! Make it canon! Make it canon!
Notice in the beginning he has his hands in the same gestures as them. First the right hand of Wanda then both hands of Agatha. And when he says "we're all villains here", refers to the 3 of them but could also include Wanda and Agatha.
What I notice sync in this 2 scene:
- Fibbed and Ascendant feel like completing each other note and instrument as 2 piece of soundtrack each actually did missing its 'component'
- When Immortus say "murderer! hypocrite!!" perfectly lined up with Agatha saying "no, no, no".. also when Immortus say "return to the TVA as its benevolent ruler".. Agatha word sound like she is completing what he say by saying "runes".. thus it seem like it is implying the actual word is "ruler of the runes of time and space"
- outside the window suddenly glow bright red when Wanda about to get her Scarlet Witch costume
- when Wanda making that hand gesture.. at the same time.. a thunder can be heard outside the citadel.. making it seem like Wanda is sending a signal to certain being (it is likely can be felt by Doctor Strange or cosmic being such as the Watcher and celestials as well)
- Immortus staring at the left side of his citadel interior make it look like he is witnessing Wanda become Scarlet Witch.. notice the subtle red lightning on his face
- this 2 scene also synced with Spider-Man: No Way Home and Venom 2 as well
- That variant isn't Immortus. He's very clearly He Who Remains. I think we will get Immortus in Loki season 2.
- Ruler of the runes of time and space" makes no sense. Another stretch on these 2 pieces of dialogue would be that Agatha asks a clarifying question "runes?". Then Wanda explains her runes while He Who Remains talks about informing the TVA. The stretch could be that when Wanda is explaining her runes in WandaVision, she also just completed casting runes outside of time and space which allowed her to change the timeline and control it at will.
- There was always red in the Loki scene. You can see it outside before the WandVision clip starts and you can see the tint on Sylvie as the camera zooms out and then when it focuses on Loki & Sylvie. The tint was always there.
- The direction the characters are staring is inconsequential. The author of this video could have placed the Loki clip on the left and WandaVision on the right, or played one clip above the other.
I think this would be next level genius if this was all planned and intended by Feige but this could have been circumstance. Along with Spider-Man NWH, the 3 all involve manipulating the timeline and reality.
@@cjtrules1but he dropped the thingy as Agatha hit the ground tho 😫😫😫
@@mungle3086 Oh you are going to have to be way more specific than "thingy" and using a pronoun. I have no clue what you are talking about since my comment was from a year ago.
@@mungle3086 That means nothing. The video creator was the one who timed it, meaning they were able to choose when the drop happened. There's no confirmation that these events are synced and there's nothing to allude to it.
@@marvelscratchmultiverse nope. I just checked on Disney plus, the times are both right. Also, the other comment was unserious.
If this was intentional this is awesome attention to detail, if it was not intentional this is one of the greatest coincidences ever. I love this so much!
If you think about it, it makes sense that the side with Loki is one second in front of the one with WandaVision, since He who Remains can (from my understanding, correct me if im wrong) foretell what's about to happen (almost like he says what will happen next). So, when he does certain things it foretells what will happen with Wandavision.
remember those ads in wandavision? yeah one of the products advertised was called "nexus" like a nexus event :)
Two of the best TV series of the year syncing with one another in the same universe.... just chills!
I'm guessing Kang senses the Sacred Timeline has stopped/is unravelling, just that he doesn't know who (the Scarlet Witch)
Now technically there is also Dr. Strange's spell which is what truly fused the universes.
Holy crap, I actually have tears in my eyes the second time watching this. Because of its perfection. Because of its beauty in the folding back and forth that the MCU has done so brilliantly. New material ripples out and resonates with previous material, making all of it richer. This forever changes the end of WandaVision to be even more grand.
Okay, and it's Christophe Beck's friggin' score reminding me how much I loved WandaVision and that moment when she came into being.
Fun Fact: Wanda has never met Loki in the movies.
Surely she will soon enough!
Sad this didn't go anywhere
Makes sense. Chaos is what causes change, and with Scarlet Witch this amount of chaos energy and with no one to keep the changes pruned, it causes the universe to branch out.
Love how it looks like Kang is looking at Wanda when she becomes the Scarlet Witch
1:38 I love how it looks like Kang is looking at the other screen
Remember when we thought these things were all connected and leading somewhere? Yeah, me too.
Since Kang was He who Remains it makes 100%sense that he has stopped many Wanda's from becoming the Scarlett Witch since she would be a Nexus being.
This syncs so beautifully. Right down to the thunder when Wanda becomes The Scarlett Witch, to the glow of red in the window, how he reacts like he heard Agathas words. Just beautiful
There is only one scarlet witch wdym by "he has stopped many Wanda's from becoming the scarlet witch"??
@@Dxllazit means that in every Timeline, events are conspired so that Wanda doesn't become the Scarlet Witch. For instance, in the 838 Timeline, Wanda was lobotomised by Professor X, stopping her from becoming the Scarlet Witch. Kang has made sure the Scarlet Witch does not come into existence as her mere presence would cause Nexus Events and cause the perfect balance and continuum of the multiverse as designed by Kang to collapse.
However the Scarlet Witch ultimately comes into being at the 'threshold of the chaos' that Kang refers to. She is that threshold, the event that made the multiverse go crazy.
@@hritviknijhawan1737and thus she's the key to defeating him
@@TheScarletKing01 Bingo, that's the part people are forgetting. I think the reason she'll disappear for a while after Multiverse of Madness is because she was meant to come back and defeat Kang, who was hinted at in Shang Chi, then brought out in Loki and Quantumania.
The red in the window as Wanda transformed into Scarlet Witch was just spot on 👌
Yep and the moment Wanda turned into scarlet witch Kang said "we just crossed the threshold "..
isn't the tva just at the end of time and in distant future?
The moment Kang stuttered and stopped talking, he could sense Wanda.
See, he's sensing it!
That was branching timelines
Literally have the time count on both videos and its off by 1 second.
We the dummies that fell for it and watched though lol 😂 but I said the same thing
1.05 sec btw
They synced it to the dropping. It still works even if off by one second.
@@deenine exactly what I was going to say. The drops were off by 1 second but it's still very impressive on Marvel's part. Just the fact that they included He Who Remains dropping the stone so the audience could recognize later that both series were running in parallel.
I believe there's a question mark at the end of that sentence so it wasn't a statement of perfection it was more like a question lmfao
0:56 hhr; GROW UP SYLVIE!
Agatha; NO!
hhr; MURDERER!
Agatha; NO!
hhr; HYPOCRITE!
Agatha; NO!!!
That's cool actually, this is the type of detail you can only put on big shared universe story.
But then they proceeded to absolutely fumble every bag after this.
Wow. Love that it looks like Kang is literally watching Wanda turn into the Scarlet Witch with the lighting and timing.
It’s eerie how uncanny it is when he turns his head
The hype of those series after the endgame was another level. It was beyond words.
2:09 THE FACT HE DROPS THAT RITHT WHEN SHE DROPS AGATHA
Wanda is the Reality Stone
Kang is the Time Stone
Vision is the Mind Stone
It’s about to be a reality/mind/time bending fight!!!
Update since Loki season 2 and The Marvels, this theory is partly true. Loki is now Time, Wanda is Reality, and Monica is Space. I believe Dr. Strange is going to be the Soul stone because it completes his character arch. In many movies he has sacrificed his life up for others and I believe he creates the final spell of the Soul stone which asks of a sacrifice. I also think the power stone may be associated with Galactus or Black Panther based on vibranium which stores energy or maybe Quill who once held the Power stone. I think the mind stone will be Jean Grey or Professor X.
What a despair that the MCU is now lost, with no path to follow... 😢 All the plots, all the dreams... gone.
this reminds me of something i saw a LONG time ago. or rather, something i heard. "at the drop of a stone, a person will fall. but at the fall of my rule, then shall the world know true chaos."
0:49 Look closely at the window behind Kang and when Wanda was about to transform into the Scarlet Witch, the reflections on the window started glowing red.
This is a hint that Wanda can somehow manipulate the timeline and break it, and also when you align the part where the multiverse was branching, and Wanda heard her children screaming for help.
This means that when the multiverse broke, Wanda now can telepathically message and receive from her children even though they're a creation of nothing.
The epic part is that Wanda is a nexus being, therefore, He Who Remains Felt the presence of Wanda transforming, and it may be that he created another timeline to save the multiverse from being broken or branched.
(Also a bonus theory of mine)
NOTE: (This is just a theory of mine so don't attack me)
It may be that Wanda can create another multiverse at her Will and emotions, but Kang can do it too.
And also, Wandavision is at 2023 whilst Loki is at the end of time, but what I am thinking is that if Wanda bends reality at her will and emotions, then it will branch The multiverse, even if at the end of time. In Doctor Strange, before going into the dark dimension, we heard Doctor Stephen Strange say, "At the end of time." which means that Dormammu is still present on the earth, but the sorcerer supreme "guides" the unknown threats not yet discovered by the avengers, but what happens if the sorcerer supreme dies? Then, Dormammu can branch the timeline.
Isnt that also the window he looks out when the threshold is crossed so he literally could be staring at wanda
First, I still think Wanda is a mutant. Second, I didn’t notice that!
@@cartooncentral263 why do you think she’s a mutant?
@@justazurb1793 In the comics (and other Marvel movies outside MCU, tv shows and games) she and Quicksilver are the son and daughter of Mangeto of the X-men
@@cartooncentral263 oh I heard that before I never knew that made her a mutant
That is too amazing to be true😱 it fits perfectly
1:33 from this point my mind got blown...got goosebumps all over 😲
First time watching a show huh?
@@SukunaAvi what do you mean bruh?!, are you making fun of me?
0:41 THIS PART
“return to the TVA as its benevolent rulers”
“Runes!?”
that's the best evidence for me.
0:33
lol, how Agatha and the pen falls almost synched was funny AF
Marvel clearly did WANT these both scenes, time specific, to happened!
When you sync the clips they're synced :O NO WAY!
I really hope Wanda returns in full. Her role is so central to Marvel.
I love how this essentially says that wanda made the first branch in the multiverse
It’s actually when Dr strangers fumbled the spell and you can see the same color lights in Kangs widow
That was eerie as fuck haha. I loved it.
One question, and I’m being sincere, what made you go back and look for this? I get curious when people point out things that we forget long after the fact like how the end credits scene in Wandavision was changed recently.
What? How was changed?
@@agustinoliva1748 I don’t know personally but there’s videos saying the end credits scene on Wandavision was tweaked significantly enough that some people noticed right away and made side by side videos about it. It happened about a month ago I think, just before Loki premiered.
so Studios Wil leak shit like this all the time pretending to be a fan who had a theory. this gets people talking about their product and wanna re-watch it. it starts off as maybe an anonymous reddit post and gains traction from there
The credits changed. It now mentions “music from *Dr. Strange* ” at the very end of the credits , when the last episode initially aired. That wasn’t there. There was also mention of a shadowy sort of figure coming in from the left mountains as the camera zooms into the cabin, assuming its Dr. Strange flying in since they’ll both be in his next movie, but i think its just a water drop effect on the lens.
I noticed the thunders in Loki immeadiately and remembered them from Wandavision. I've watched all of WandaVision 4 times and the last episode 10 times :)
King knew that scarlet witch could cause destruction and he was right
Even when Wanda drops Agatha to the ground HWR does the same with the dummy, its literally perfect
Falcon and Winter Soldier at that time: Tells the whole world that he is black Captain America.
Is it Nexus event too?
I wouldn't say that's a nexus event because it was supposed to happen
TFATWS happened 6 months after this.
bru
@@EceScorpio it's not about time . it never was .
yeah i thought it was kinda weird cause he floated down around that time and everybody was asking questions. also we gotta remember time isn't linnear anymore in the MCU.
U can see the Scarlett power in that timeline beam outside the castle 🔥🔥🔥🔥
The nexus event is so big that it broke up and open multiverse which makes Kang (in Loki) need to restart. Also there's should be one nexus being in one parallel universe since the born of SW 'He whos remain' has to step down.
One of the most mind blowing things I ever seen
2:08 the pen or wathever it was, drop by immortus, just fall at the same moment than Agatha Arkness
Back when people thought post-Endgame MCU had a cohesive plan & intentionality
I kind of always wondered why the finale of Loki felt so slow.
What makes it even better is in Loki you actually hear the thunder that is happening in Wanda vision
This scene is what made me believe that there's no way Wanda died from that tower falling on her. She's way too powerful like?!
Watching this in 2024 and realizing how we actually thought the MCU writing was still this tight is actually hilarious. Nothing is actually connected or makes any sense anymore.
true...
kinda disappointing unless they pull off some crazy shit that blindsides everyone. (just wishful thinking lol)
Man I really wanted to see more of Johnathan majors as kang but the last thing we got was quantum mania where he got beat by ants 😭😭😭
duuuuuuude literal chills...wtaf?!?!?!? how does someone find out stuff like this...like, HOW?!?!?!? 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
Just wait til they sync this with a sink
I have the perfect explanation for this!
In that moment the Kang from Ant-Man escapes out of the Quantum realm and the He who remains version felt that 😱
I assume something similar happens simultaneously in No Way Home now too...
This is ABSOLUTELY Tom Hiddleston's doing.
It's not.
@@MarionBaggins As if either of us actually know.
This would actually make scene...
Back when we thought marvel had some sort of plan.
This is so cool and is the next level Easter egg. I wonder if there are more.
"Ruins Runes"
Literally a no way home scene
1:48 It’s almost like he’s looking at her gaining power😱
Can’t wait to see them piece this together the way they always do through flash backs gonna be a fun entertaining few years…. Nice break since Endgame time to ramp it up again
Even if it's happens accidentally Marvel must use this ~fans idea as canon in MCU history and next movies. Cause this is so dope and powerful!
Bro, they know what they’re doing
@@TheeItalianStalian would love to believe. Sometimes they do some inconsistencies, yet different directors have their own vision.
@@anthonytesfaye5471 not when Kevin Feige is behind every MCU project
A few seconds in I was like "How does this sync up at all?".
Then HWR looks over at Wanda's transformation and I was sold.
Add Venom: Let There Be Carnage's post-credit scene, once it hit digital stores.
😳😳👀👀
Yo! You're right!!!!
So.... MAYBE that is also what throws Strange off when he's casting the spell in the next Spiderman movie. Not just Peter distracting him? But Scarlet Witches power...? 🤔
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@@josue0001 lmaooooooooooooo
This syncs with everything ngl
Also, when He Who Remains tells Sylvie to grow up, the little orphan girl we watched become the most powerful being in the universe...she does just that❤️❤️❤️
And it’s also crazy that No Way Home, Dr Strange’s Spell lines up perfectly with it too.
Is this a small hint that Wanda is the one to end Kang? He Who Remains crosses a threshold he no longer knows what’s going to happen next once the Scarlet Witch comes to being. Maybe that signifies his variants end.
I hope Loki gets a really badass scene at the end of his show like Wanda did at the end of Wandavision. Also, imagine how cool it would be if Wanda and Loki and/or Sylvie teamed up. They are all willing to distort reality itself to achieve their goals, so it would make sense.
To the folks saying these probably aren't connected the usual rule in marvel is that "no two nexus beings can exist on the same plane of reality, and can only project onto other realms with an active nexus being as an apparition." So chances are he most definitely noticed when she gained her full power
People think that nexus being has only one neaning which is cannot erasable but the actual meaning is any person or thing with the power and capability to drastically affect probability and the timeline.Peoples are so good at not doing any research and copying
Also, they said that spider man's Wish broke the time line
Turns out this was just coincidences. It would be cool if these shows and movies are actually linked together and culminate in Doctor Strange 2. It's literally called Multiverse of Madness ffs.
Like why is every show deals with the same concept of Multiverse but refused to connect to one another? Each movie has their own reasons for their Multiverse events. Doctor Strange happens because Wanda, No way Home happens because Strange fucked up the spell. Loki happens when Slyvie kills He Who Remains. And they gave another reason for Kang on Quantumania
Why didn't they just write it so everything happens because of Slyvie? It would make more sense they reintroducing the same concepts a bit differently.
At first we thought Pietro being played by Evan Peters would be the first sign of the multiverse but turns out its a dick joke.
Imagine if all the events are actually interconnected, starting off with Pietro being from the Fox Xmen, and explain it by Slyvie killing He Who Remains.
Which leads to the stuff in Doctor Strange MOM, No way Home and Quantumania.
Thats literally why lmao. No Way Home and Multiverse of Madness are direct causes of Sylvie
The new antman answers a lot of questions
Remember when this was meant for something bigger😂
I KNEW I wasn't the only one who thought these scenes went well together, I made almost the same video on my main account and it gained zero traction.
For three years I thought I was going crazy because I didn't see anyone else talking about it!
I would link my video but I guess I deleted it
who else thinks this happens the same time as when the skies cracked at the end of no way home. or maybe at the same time dr strange first casts the spell.
just read some stuff. and looks like NWH (2023) happens after wandavision (2022). but we know that time is different in loki especially they were in the void where the timeline is circular.
and yeah also read somewhere that this might be the beacon in shang-chi mid-credit scene. lots of stuff is happening can't wait for the multiverse of madness. kang is coming 😱
Both of them are one of the strongest nexux beings around. So I would be surprised if they don't know of each other yet.