Jocko Willink learns how ruthless South Korean ROK Marines were in the Vietnam War
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- Опубліковано 13 сер 2023
- Major General James Mukoyama, was an Infantry Captain in the Vietnam War under David Hackworth, author of "About Face". He described how despite collateral damage, difficulty discernment of the enemy, and atrocities done by some soldiers on an "understandable" to a disgraceful scale, American soldiers as a whole hold each other accountable to high moral standards as a whole. These priorities are in contrast to the ferocious, merciless, ruthless, respected and feared reputation Republic of Korea Marines had among Americans, North Vietnamese and Viet Cong in the Vietnam War.
Jocko Willink then reads accounts from an American warfighter in the Vietnam War describing what he knew of the South Korean ROK Marines fighting there.
From Jocko Podcast 124 and 143
So, I am a Blue-Blooded Yankee assed child of the 80's and an ex-Army Ranger of the 90s. The ROK Marine's reputation for absolute ruthlessness was never published,.....Just quietly spoken about by my Father's generation that was in Vietnam.....'Nough said on that one....These Gents would make Freddy Kruger shit his pants.
-I have ran into two Vietnam ROK Marines in my short life...Both were out of Fredericksburg, VA. One tailored my shirts and suits for work. (He jokingly said he would give me some extra room here and there since I had just come out of Iraq.) ...The other painted the house. Nothing but respect for these guys....Nothing but love and admiration for their fighting spirit and professionalism. RLTW......
I served 2 tours in Nam 1st Aviation (68-69) and 1st Signal (69-70). The ROKs were scary dudes to everybody. I saw them beat the crap out of each other in training all the time. I'm talking serious beat downs. We didn't do shit. I saw them walk through Saigon streets and the Vietnamese would clear a path. The Vietnamese surrounded and hassled GIs on the streets...non-stop. ROKs had respect.
You, Sir, deserve respect as well. Thank you for your service.
War is not a party! Who gets to decide how they treat the enemy? What part of war is humane?
Sounds like the Mongolians in Iraq. They did not shy away from retaliation.
Thanks for sharing this video. I served in ROK Marine Corps for 2 years. My father and his 2 brothers too. Being at peace is the most important thing, but if enemies wanna destroy ours, then I’m sure that me and my brothers will be willing to fight on the front line.
My big uncle, the oldest of 9 siblings, was a Korean marine of 2nd Brigade "Blue Dragon" during Vietnam war '67~'69.
In my memory, my big uncle didn't have his left leg because he lost it during his last minutes of war in '69.
I remember myself being 9 year old kiddo asking him "Uncle, why don't you have a leg?"
He just simply said "Well son, because I gave it in honour for my country."
Also he told me when I was about 14,
"I visited US for the first time in my life back in 80's bcs one of fellow combat anglico buddies form US invited me to visit... I guess people didn't like them returning back home alive in his time unlike ours in Korea.."
Rest In Peace, Uncle.
Republic of Korea Marine Corps
2nd Brig
Veteran, Vietnam 67-69.
Sgt. Bang, Heenam
(1940~2011)
Rest in peace to your uncle. My grandfather served in the U.S army in Vietnam and ended up with shrapnel in his back from a grenade which killed his best friend. Never knew he served until he died in 2018, but i still have a great respect for him and all other veterans whether they’re american, korean or whatever else
My maternal grandpa was in Nam too as ROK marine from 67 to 71.... Honor and eternal memory to Sergeant Heenam Bang!
that's how you WIN wars
My dad told me one of the reasons he thinks why ROKs were so good in Vietnam(we're Korean). Back in the day, the compulsory military camp of ROK was absolutely nuts. The amount of inhumane punishment and training they had to go through was unbelivable - I thought things like that wouldn't even be allowed in a POW camp - and since it was a strict mandatory system it was either survive until the duty is over or go out early dead. And it was 3 years. 3 mandatory years of military service where you cannot escape, no human rights inside of it. Lots of people were beaten to death, drowned, died of exhaustion, starvation, you name it. The stories of my dad is just nuts. For example he told me a story when his entire troop was being punished for just one man's very little mistake - the entire troop was ordered to gather outside at night, naked, at -30 degrees celcius, and the drill instructors were carrying water pots to sprinkle it on their body for hours. These were daily incidents and trainings that every man had to go through. My dad said if you go through something so hard like that with someone else, that brotherhood becomes unimaginably tight that if any one of his member is attacked then it's immediate kill or be killed mode towards the attacker. Nothing else matters.
So basically the Korean soldiers who were deployed to Vietnam had already went through hell even before they were deployed. And they wouldn't let their officers down, and they would definitely not watch their brothers die.
I wouldn't condone anything like that tho, during that harsh time a lot of men killed themselves in the military camp. 3 years locked in a man killing military camp where any punishment is possible! No way..
My dad was a ROK Marine in the Vietnam War. He rarely talked about it other then saying the viet cong were invisible and he saw a lot of bad things.
That matches the realistic depiction of Vietnam war from ROK side.
@dobridjordje My dad is still salty bc his brother who was drafted as an American got war benefits and health care. But my father being recruited by the Korean government to fight along side the Americans is not seen as an American war veteran. Thus, he gets no war benefits here in America.
@@joshnoi1804 Dude, it's a good goddamn thing you posted. Korean-American ROK Army/Marine Veterans of the Vietnam War get US Veterans Administration benefits HERE IN THE US the same as if they were US Military Veterans of the same service period as of 23 Nov 2023 due to the Korean-American VALOR Act.
Look it up, get your father signed up. I understand the benefits are good. My dad came over in 74 as a direct recruit into the US Army and did 23 years and retired so he's in a different boat, but your dad has boatload of benefits coming to him that should make him proud and put a smile on his face in his sunset years. At least put him in the company of the men who he used to be young with and that tends to keep old me alive longer.
It's been long in coming, too long for those who have already passed, but American Vietnam Veterans have been working for their surviving brothers in arms from 50-60 years ago and have not forgotten. Now go put that packet in. Dad deserves it.
@@ryhk3293 This is huge news! Thank you for your response!
@@joshnoi1804 Brother, you father is only getting what he deserves. That was an extremely difficult war for everyone involved (least we forget, for the Vietnamese whose homeland it was fought in, civilians and soldiers alike) but as far as it concerns Koreans, every Korean fighting man who was sent to Vietnam was considered a one-to-one replacement for an American GI who didn't have to serve a tour of duty.
I am sure that just like you are hearing about it only today, there are some lonely Korean-American Vietnam Vets out there who have NOT heard that hey are eligible for US VA *disability compensation,* *pension,* education and training, *HEALTH CARE,* *home loans*
Big fan! Grandmaster Chu grew up in the Korean war. Taekwondo and Judo champion got the best schools. Graduate young in Judo college. World Judo/Yudo champion and world military Judo champion then off to Vietnam war. Return to join the presidential security special service how ever after the president wife was killed after a fail attempt he and others were dismissed all were punished. Came to America coaching Cumberland university Judo team. Move to chattanooga and I became his life long student Judo/Yudo and Taekwondo. He is very nice man but superhuman on the mat it's unreal!
In S. Korea, I met a KATUSA Sgt whose dad was in Vietnam. He said his dad's unit would decapitate VC they killed and put their heads on stakes around the perimiter of their camp. Were never attacked during his time there. He said, "Their ROE was different." No shit!
The heads on a bamboo stake thing was somewhat common, or atleast in significant enough numbers. A tunnel rat documentary I watched, a guy mentioned doing that aswell
Excellent story. I had not known or heard of this prior to seeing this. To me, hats off to the ROK soldiers. That is how you prosecute war. Only *one* rule of engagement. Kill your enemy as fast and as efficiently as possible along with enforcing total destruction on their homes, factories and everything in the way. Far less total casualties that way in the long run and a much shorter conflict. Kill People - Break Things
Every account I read about ROK forces in Vietnam they were not to be fuccd with!
Saw them training hand to hand on a rock beach in Korea once
As a Korean American, it saddens me that koreans did that to vietnam (the torture). The hatred they had for communists in general was deep dude to the korean war. They learned all those torture methods from the Japanese btw.
Search "Massacre of Hue" and see who did it. I am not defening any of the warcrimes, but it's hard to blame only one side in a horrible jungle warfare.
Skinned alive is crazy
Salvadoran Marines had the same reputation in Kabul. They were shot at once...they dismounted and kicked in doors till mama threw a teenager out into the street with a old pistol. Nuff said.
Wars are won by those willing to by any means necessary, ask the Boers about how they lost to the British, the Germans about Dresden, Berlin or the Japanese about Tokyo, Oskaka, Hiroshima, Nagasaki. Half measures never work in war.
My deepest respect to south korean soldiers …. Thank you for fighting aling side with our troops ….
Wrong, During Tet offensive Rok Marine fire base guarded by One marine company was attacked by NV Regiment, after 48 hours of battle, NV gave up the offense and retreated, when the rescue forces from both ROK and US Came, all they found was 400 bodies of reaped, stabbed, shot dead of NV soldiers when 19 Korean marines died. NVs didn't even bother to recover their comrades' bodies and one of ROK Marine who died during the battle was only 18, When his MG position was overruned by charging North vietnamese soldiers, He told his fellow marines whom were wounded to fall back to the 2nd trench and he blew himself up with granades when NV soldiers rushed into his trench. Battle of Trah bin dong
The battle of tra binh dong occurred just under a year before the tet offensive began. The actual death toll for koreans was 15 and for the NVA it was 246. The main fighting was also only for 4 hours, the rest was only brief engagements around the base
WTF are babbling about? If you're going to call out someone for being incorrect, trying talking about the same goddamn battle in he same goddamn year in the same goddamn city.
@@ryhk3293 the battle mentioned in the video wasnt even a battle, it was just one sniper fucking around and finding out. Meanwhile he was wrong himself about the battle of tra binh dong (I corrected some of his confidentially incorrect statements in my previous comment)
Maybe US starts acting like they mean to win a war next time🤔
Its hard to “act like you mean to win a war” when you dont even want to be in that war
괴거의 한국해병대는 지옥에서온 사자 만큼 용맹했기에 존경합니다..요즘에는 잘 모르겠네요...현대에서는 가장 실전을 많이 치른 미군만이 압도적으로 강하다고 생각합니다..
It was war crimes
War is not a party.
Committing atrocities is at best excusable; at worst a sign that the ROK is overrated and corrupt (like just about anything else from Korea besides the food)
You weren't there
Are you a Vietnam Vet?.... actually, I beg the question because you obviously know nothing about what really happened in Vietnam other than the
stuff you see from Cronkite on UA-cam. Atrocities... the NVA and VC committed them in spades.
I was in country from August 1968 to August 1969 serving in the US Navy.... on Swift Boats. I'm here to tell 'Ya, nobody fucked with the ROK Marines.
Mark Bell PCF-69
Overrated? More like underrated. But you are right about corruption because the US supported and propped up the corrupt koreans who were japanese collaborators to take power in SK leaving the opposition who are the real Koreans of the people helpless. Korea never was able to reach it's full potential because of this and how the county run was divided. Everything destroyed. Their precious ancient sites and everything was destroyed. They just came out of Japanese occupation and then US comes in. The mindset of the Koreans were exhausted and they just didn't care that much anymore or motivated. Their spirits were very low at that time. The beauty of Korea was absolutely destroyed by the relentless acts by the US and Japan. You have no understanding of Korea but judge by the very consequences that you think is actual Korea but it's not. If Korea was "one" they would be a force to be reckon with.
Stick to Dragonball bro, you know nothing about the reality
Yet you weren't, not to mention they were very effective. So before you say shit, maybe do more research.