That "lack of meaning camp" is true though. Especially without family, but there are soooo many more people in the world that would love to learn, live and grow with you my friend. Just start with a smile. When someone smiles back....
Call it whatever you wish, I am just tired of pain. Life is a struggle that I'd rather not go through. What we lack is the courage to have meaningful discussions. Its really not as complex as people make it out to be. We are a social species, we *need* one another. There is a reason we feel pain when alone. If we are alone, its more difficult to survive, which is why we need to learn to be more open. Our very survival demands this.
I totally agree with you. If i told you that we all could have an open conversation with one another about life, families and friends, anything.... most people would tell me im delusional and insane. Meaningful discussions and conversations have some how been restricted to only family and people closest to us. Imagine if that were not the case. If only we could all be vulnerable enough to have meaningful conversations. Oh how much we woull learn and live.
Haiden Geary Also if anyone is suicidal, 1-800-273-8255 Please call this number if you are contemplating suicide A youtuber mentioned this number in one of his videos It’s a suicide prevention hotline, if you don’t think it will help you, just try Don’t worry, we care about you. You can get through this, believe me. I know I am copy and pasting this, but I am so I can have a great impact on people’s lives so please call, the number if you are suicidal. Also you will just miss out on everything to come, and also many good moments. ua-cam.com/video/4-JXkCtiYWY/v-deo.html also watch this video
As an older person, I find it disappointing that the emphasis of concern is nearly always given to the young. It feels as if, when you have lived to an older age, it does not really matter much anymore if you commit suicide ...
Trev Stavros Also if anyone is suicidal, 1-800-273-8255 Please call this number if you are contemplating suicide A youtuber mentioned this number in one of his videos It’s a suicide prevention hotline, if you don’t think it will help you, just try Don’t worry, we care about you. You can get through this, believe me. I know I am copy and pasting this, but I am so I can have a great impact on people’s lives so please call, the number if you are suicidal. Also you will just miss out on everything to come, and also many good moments. ua-cam.com/video/4-JXkCtiYWY/v-deo.html also watch this video
Trev Stavros: Agree 100%. Us “old” people are considered more expendable. It’s a common human tendency to think the suicide of a person with roughly 20 years of life left is far less “tragic” than a young person with 60 years of life ahead of them.
My family don’t care about me, my husband left me 4 years ago, his family was my family. I haven’t heard one word from them in 4 years. So they’re gone too. Recently discovered I have loss and abandonment issues. Depression and pain. Want the pain to end. Tried counselling. Can afford it or find the help. It’s just not available. Been an awful 18 months so far. Keeps getting worse. I don’t want to live anymore.
It sounds like you are in a terrible situation - I hope that you are able to get through this. It may feel insurmountable right now, but (for whatever it's worth) I know from experience that people *can* get out of it - even after years or even decades of psychological anguish. Hang in there.
Suicide isn't always triggered by mental illness. I have had health problems for 25 years that stop me from enjoying my life.It has taken an incredible toll on me and there is no end in sight.I used to be an athlete and an overachiever I am exhausted from my health issues and on top of that I have no one to talk to.I am married however my wife does not want to hear anything I have to say,so I feel all alone and empty,very hollow inside.On top of that I have been cheated on numerous times and lied to repeatedly for the last 13 years while dealing with all these health problems at the same time.it's overload and nothing let's up!I have been devastated by all of this I am numb beyond belief. I have kids and my youngest is 11.I keep thinking I don't want to ruin her life,but my desire to die is too strong.I love my wife so much,but if I don't figure something out with my life I will die.I am such a good man.
I wouldn't disagree with you on suicide not always being triggered by mental illness. I think it misunderstands the phenomenon of suicide - it's highly contextualized and individual, as you know. For whatever it's worth, I hope that you are able to find a way to overcome some of what you're dealing with and carry whatever you can't. Take care.
WOW I like how this was explained. I don't think people understand that emotional pain rocks you to your very core. I think to with professionals they don't see you or hear you are a diagnosis and that is why you feel the you do. No so much about trauma you have suffered and what you actually go through but the fact you are not thinking right. Listening to answer not to understand the person sitting in front of them. Suicide is a hard thing to fight you are suffering it is agonizing and when your body goes haywire you just want the pain to stop and knowing you can't face the emotional pain from your past it is too overwhelming all of it. It's not a good place to be.
Learning the psychology of suicide is unproductive. Philosophy should be the focus - that this reality we live in is not subjective but objectively negative and death is a guarantee and will most likely be violent. To simply acknowledge this fact has nothing to do with depression or the state of someone's mind whatsoever, but rather the realization that choosing not to sit around and wait for a violent or even lasting chronic death is un-favored and the option to have a graceful and dignified death should be at the choice of each individual. We were all thrown into this existence and most people are dealt a short stick of which they had no choice in the matter. The psychology of why someone kills themselves is irrelevant. Suicide will always exist and there will never be a "cure", so it's only rational and reasonable to give ALL humans the option for a non-violent method to exit life gracefully. .....If anything - we should study the psychology of why humans believe suicide is a bad thing in the first place. I could argue the same applies towards life and optimism bias.
Eye Doubt It Also if anyone is suicidal, 1-800-273-8255 Please call this number if you are contemplating suicide A youtuber mentioned this number in one of his videos It’s a suicide prevention hotline, if you don’t think it will help you, just try Don’t worry, we care about you. You can get through this, believe me. I know I am copy and pasting this, but I am so I can have a great impact on people’s lives so please call, the number if you are suicidal. Also you will just miss out on everything to come, and also many good moments. ua-cam.com/video/4-JXkCtiYWY/v-deo.html also watch this video Also sorry if you think i am a bot
@@Sunny-vb2dd can you stop copy and pasting and actually write something of your own. You're referring people to a bunch of people that only read off a script so they aren't responsible for how their words affect you. 9 times out of 10 it isn't helpful. Please try to look into what you spread.
@@Sunny-vb2dd it would be much more appreciated and helpful if you made real contributions to the discussion. People didn't get to this video by chance! It is very likely they've seen this number when they looked up anything relating to suicide. If they didn't call then, they won't call now.
As a person as myself who suffers from PTSD. Others have pushed my symptoms recently and I had a few nights to where I felt so overwhelmed but I made myself get off the thought. As others have been able to trigger my symptoms they to have to be charged with charges of assault or harassment abuse or something that they need to be charged with. Frightening me or my family visitors they have been falsely accusing me of doing something that I never do in a revenge situation
I’m trying desperately to find a home for my cat my cat some other was wild and so my cat is basically afraid of everybody except me so I do not want to leave until I find her a home it’s very difficult to place an animal with these traits the other day I almost didn’t even care about the cat anymore and was going to drive my car off a cliff
I love animals too. The fact that you care so much for your precious pet is a signal that you care. Personally i find more solace in my relationship with my pets than with most people. And thats okay.
I have a narcissistic family. Controlling and abusive. I am sensitive to it and have been their target. My older sister misinterprets everything. She misrepresents her motives and is a leader to my emotionally and intellectually weaker siblings. I have suicidal thoughts often. I live with hurt. I adored my siblings and enjoyed them. I am unemployed and my depression is obvious while interviewing and I can't focus. I have seen a therapist but it hasn't helped. I used to be so happy. I am getting older too. I wish I could find good help.
Hello Jen, i hope you find the help you seek. I am sensitive to life its self and have tried navigating it as well as i can. But the thing that frustrates me the most is, the lack of listening. Find someone that truly listens to you and i feel that your burdens can then at least weigh less.
People need to talk more, but when the talking starts..... Listen. Waiting for loved ones to reach out when they are struggling is to late. Brigde the gap... Act, ask after your loved ones.
Koe Operations Also if anyone is suicidal, 1-800-273-8255 Please call this number if you are contemplating suicide A youtuber mentioned this number in one of his videos It’s a suicide prevention hotline, if you don’t think it will help you, just try Don’t worry, we care about you. You can get through this, believe me. I know I am copy and pasting this, but I am so I can have a great impact on people’s lives so please call, the number if you are suicidal. Also you will just miss out on everything to come, and also many good moments. ua-cam.com/video/4-JXkCtiYWY/v-deo.html also watch this video
When family lies under oath and commit purgery to trap me into guardianship to be denied privacy , civil-rights and deprived civil liberties and having life contolled so my life is atrap and mind plagued with ptsd, and abuse, the attempts ive made to end this trap is most likely the only relief ill ever have. I am in no way sad or depressed, im fed up and not interested in suffering
jason sullivan Also if anyone is suicidal, 1-800-273-8255 Please call this number if you are contemplating suicide A youtuber mentioned this number in one of his videos It’s a suicide prevention hotline, if you don’t think it will help you, just try Don’t worry, we care about you. You can get through this, believe me. I know I am copy and pasting this, but I am so I can have a great impact on people’s lives so please call, the number if you are suicidal. Also you will just miss out on everything to come, and also many good moments. ua-cam.com/video/4-JXkCtiYWY/v-deo.html also watch this video
Excellent points in this clip. I actually met you at Dr. Allan Abbass' Immersion a couple of years ago. So happy to see good information available to the general public and fellow practitioners. Take care, Sonya
Sonya MacDonald Also if anyone is suicidal, 1-800-273-8255 Please call this number if you are contemplating suicide A youtuber mentioned this number in one of his videos It’s a suicide prevention hotline, if you don’t think it will help you, just try Don’t worry, we care about you. You can get through this, believe me. I know I am copy and pasting this, but I am so I can have a great impact on people’s lives so please call, the number if you are suicidal. Also you will just miss out on everything to come, and also many good moments. ua-cam.com/video/4-JXkCtiYWY/v-deo.html also watch this video
I have it a last ditch effort. I put your first and second video in its own separate playlist back to back. I’ve tried a lot, analytically fought suicide for years. But. Despite thinking looming at facts would help me as an analytical person I was terribly, horribly wrong. Don’t use me as an example. Just because I couldn’t hack it doesn’t mean others won’t
Michaela Miller Also if anyone is suicidal, 1-800-273-8255 Please call this number if you are contemplating suicide A youtuber mentioned this number in one of his videos It’s a suicide prevention hotline, if you don’t think it will help you, just try Don’t worry, we care about you. You can get through this, believe me. I know I am copy and pasting this, but I am so I can have a great impact on people’s lives so please call, the number if you are suicidal. Also you will just miss out on everything to come, and also many good moments. ua-cam.com/video/4-JXkCtiYWY/v-deo.html also watch this video
Haiden Geary Also if anyone is suicidal, 1-800-273-8255 Please call this number if you are contemplating suicide A youtuber mentioned this number in one of his videos It’s a suicide prevention hotline, if you don’t think it will help you, just try Don’t worry, we care about you. You can get through this, believe me. I know I am copy and pasting this, but I am so I can have a great impact on people’s lives so please call, the number if you are suicidal. Also you will just miss out on everything to come, and also many good moments. ua-cam.com/video/4-JXkCtiYWY/v-deo.html also watch this video
They always sad about your death, but don't give a damn about your life.
I'm in the lack of meaning camp. There's little to try to live for as u get older and especially without relationships and family.
You can always make a new friend-why not take up a hobby and wait x
That "lack of meaning camp" is true though.
Especially without family, but there are soooo many more people in the world that would love to learn, live and grow with you my friend.
Just start with a smile. When someone smiles back....
@@koeoperations1938 thats easiery said then done and not possible for everyone though...
Call it whatever you wish, I am just tired of pain. Life is a struggle that I'd rather not go through.
What we lack is the courage to have meaningful discussions. Its really not as complex as people make it out to be. We are a social species, we *need* one another. There is a reason we feel pain when alone. If we are alone, its more difficult to survive, which is why we need to learn to be more open. Our very survival demands this.
Say I need help now-a shoulder to lean on to your loved ones- Love xx
I totally agree with you. If i told you that we all could have an open conversation with one another about life, families and friends, anything.... most people would tell me im delusional and insane. Meaningful discussions and conversations have some how been restricted to only family and people closest to us. Imagine if that were not the case. If only we could all be vulnerable enough to have meaningful conversations. Oh how much we woull learn and live.
@@koeoperations1938 that would be truely wonderful :)
Haiden Geary Also if anyone is suicidal,
1-800-273-8255
Please call this number if you are contemplating suicide
A youtuber mentioned this number in one of his videos
It’s a suicide prevention hotline, if you don’t think it will help you, just try
Don’t worry, we care about you. You can get through this, believe me.
I know I am copy and pasting this, but I am so I can have a great impact on people’s lives
so please call, the number if you are suicidal. Also you will just miss out on everything to come, and also many good moments.
ua-cam.com/video/4-JXkCtiYWY/v-deo.html also watch this video
Yoga is the awnser practice it daily .... It can change your life
As an older person, I find it disappointing that the emphasis of concern is nearly always given to the young. It feels as if, when you have lived to an older age, it does not really matter much anymore if you commit suicide ...
Absolutely true.
Always matter to the person and loved ones x
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Trev Stavros Also if anyone is suicidal,
1-800-273-8255
Please call this number if you are contemplating suicide
A youtuber mentioned this number in one of his videos
It’s a suicide prevention hotline, if you don’t think it will help you, just try
Don’t worry, we care about you. You can get through this, believe me.
I know I am copy and pasting this, but I am so I can have a great impact on people’s lives
so please call, the number if you are suicidal. Also you will just miss out on everything to come, and also many good moments.
ua-cam.com/video/4-JXkCtiYWY/v-deo.html also watch this video
Trev Stavros: Agree 100%. Us “old” people are considered more expendable. It’s a common human tendency to think the suicide of a person with roughly 20 years of life left is far less “tragic” than a young person with 60 years of life ahead of them.
I lost my dog, or my best friend. I'm sad and I wish he was here. No dog or person can replace him.
So much pain in this world. As a global society we failed to move in the right direction.
I hate how me not wanting to be mentally abused by others is a mental illness and yet mentally abusing someone might come from an "impulse"
Why do people commit suicide? It's better to rest in peace than to live in hell.
My family don’t care about me, my husband left me 4 years ago, his family was my family. I haven’t heard one word from them in 4 years. So they’re gone too. Recently discovered I have loss and abandonment issues. Depression and pain. Want the pain to end. Tried counselling. Can afford it or find the help. It’s just not available. Been an awful 18 months so far. Keeps getting worse. I don’t want to live anymore.
It sounds like you are in a terrible situation - I hope that you are able to get through this. It may feel insurmountable right now, but (for whatever it's worth) I know from experience that people *can* get out of it - even after years or even decades of psychological anguish. Hang in there.
Suicide isn't always triggered by mental illness. I have had health problems for 25 years that stop me from enjoying my life.It has taken an incredible toll on me and there is no end in sight.I used to be an athlete and an overachiever I am exhausted from my health issues and on top of that I have no one to talk to.I am married however my wife does not want to hear anything I have to say,so I feel all alone and empty,very hollow inside.On top of that I have been cheated on numerous times and lied to repeatedly for the last 13 years while dealing with all these health problems at the same time.it's overload and nothing let's up!I have been devastated by all of this I am numb beyond belief. I have kids and my youngest is 11.I keep thinking I don't want to ruin her life,but my desire to die is too strong.I love my wife so much,but if I don't figure something out with my life I will die.I am such a good man.
I wouldn't disagree with you on suicide not always being triggered by mental illness. I think it misunderstands the phenomenon of suicide - it's highly contextualized and individual, as you know. For whatever it's worth, I hope that you are able to find a way to overcome some of what you're dealing with and carry whatever you can't. Take care.
I hope you find peace regardless of what you path you take... It's your life.
Relative poverty should be discussed in relation to the struggle with suicidal tendencies.
The way you word things, I couldn’t put it in a better way. Thank you for this video !
WOW I like how this was explained. I don't think people understand that emotional pain rocks you to your very core. I think to with professionals they don't see you or hear you are a diagnosis and that is why you feel the you do. No so much about trauma you have suffered and what you actually go through but the fact you are not thinking right. Listening to answer not to understand the person sitting in front of them. Suicide is a hard thing to fight you are suffering it is agonizing and when your body goes haywire you just want the pain to stop and knowing you can't face the emotional pain from your past it is too overwhelming all of it. It's not a good place to be.
Learning the psychology of suicide is unproductive. Philosophy should be the focus - that this reality we live in is not subjective but objectively negative and death is a guarantee and will most likely be violent. To simply acknowledge this fact has nothing to do with depression or the state of someone's mind whatsoever, but rather the realization that choosing not to sit around and wait for a violent or even lasting chronic death is un-favored and the option to have a graceful and dignified death should be at the choice of each individual. We were all thrown into this existence and most people are dealt a short stick of which they had no choice in the matter. The psychology of why someone kills themselves is irrelevant. Suicide will always exist and there will never be a "cure", so it's only rational and reasonable to give ALL humans the option for a non-violent method to exit life gracefully. .....If anything - we should study the psychology of why humans believe suicide is a bad thing in the first place. I could argue the same applies towards life and optimism bias.
thank you, from the bottom of my heart. its so nice to hear someone who is rational about this issue.
Eye Doubt It Also if anyone is suicidal,
1-800-273-8255
Please call this number if you are contemplating suicide
A youtuber mentioned this number in one of his videos
It’s a suicide prevention hotline, if you don’t think it will help you, just try
Don’t worry, we care about you. You can get through this, believe me.
I know I am copy and pasting this, but I am so I can have a great impact on people’s lives
so please call, the number if you are suicidal. Also you will just miss out on everything to come, and also many good moments.
ua-cam.com/video/4-JXkCtiYWY/v-deo.html also watch this video
Also sorry if you think i am a bot
@@Sunny-vb2dd can you stop copy and pasting and actually write something of your own. You're referring people to a bunch of people that only read off a script so they aren't responsible for how their words affect you. 9 times out of 10 it isn't helpful. Please try to look into what you spread.
@@Sunny-vb2dd it would be much more appreciated and helpful if you made real contributions to the discussion. People didn't get to this video by chance! It is very likely they've seen this number when they looked up anything relating to suicide. If they didn't call then, they won't call now.
As a person as myself who suffers from PTSD. Others have pushed my symptoms recently and I had a few nights to where I felt so overwhelmed but I made myself get off the thought. As others have been able to trigger my symptoms they to have to be charged with charges of assault or harassment abuse or something that they need to be charged with. Frightening me or my family visitors they have been falsely accusing me of doing something that I never do in a revenge situation
What is the correlation between suicide and IQ?
Are highly intelligent individuals more likely to self off?
I’m trying desperately to find a home for my cat my cat some other was wild and so my cat is basically afraid of everybody except me so I do not want to leave until I find her a home it’s very difficult to place an animal with these traits the other day I almost didn’t even care about the cat anymore and was going to drive my car off a cliff
I love animals too. The fact that you care so much for your precious pet is a signal that you care.
Personally i find more solace in my relationship with my pets than with most people. And thats okay.
I have a narcissistic family. Controlling and abusive. I am sensitive to it and have been their target. My older sister misinterprets everything. She misrepresents her motives and is a leader to my emotionally and intellectually weaker siblings. I have suicidal thoughts often. I live with hurt. I adored my siblings and enjoyed them. I am unemployed and my depression is obvious while interviewing and I can't focus. I have seen a therapist but it hasn't helped. I used to be so happy. I am getting older too. I wish I could find good help.
Hello Jen, i hope you find the help you seek. I am sensitive to life its self and have tried navigating it as well as i can. But the thing that frustrates me the most is, the lack of listening. Find someone that truly listens to you and i feel that your burdens can then at least weigh less.
People need to talk more, but when the talking starts..... Listen.
Waiting for loved ones to reach out when they are struggling is to late. Brigde the gap... Act, ask after your loved ones.
Koe Operations Also if anyone is suicidal,
1-800-273-8255
Please call this number if you are contemplating suicide
A youtuber mentioned this number in one of his videos
It’s a suicide prevention hotline, if you don’t think it will help you, just try
Don’t worry, we care about you. You can get through this, believe me.
I know I am copy and pasting this, but I am so I can have a great impact on people’s lives
so please call, the number if you are suicidal. Also you will just miss out on everything to come, and also many good moments.
ua-cam.com/video/4-JXkCtiYWY/v-deo.html also watch this video
Please help me please
How can I help? Here to talk if you need. I can say a prayer for you right now.
When family lies under oath and commit purgery to trap me into guardianship to be denied privacy , civil-rights and deprived civil liberties and having life contolled so my life is atrap and mind plagued with ptsd, and abuse, the attempts ive made to end this trap is most likely the only relief ill ever have. I am in no way sad or depressed, im fed up and not interested in suffering
You need a new environment my friend. I to would have dark thoughts in this situation. I hope peace finds you alive and well soon.
jason sullivan Also if anyone is suicidal,
1-800-273-8255
Please call this number if you are contemplating suicide
A youtuber mentioned this number in one of his videos
It’s a suicide prevention hotline, if you don’t think it will help you, just try
Don’t worry, we care about you. You can get through this, believe me.
I know I am copy and pasting this, but I am so I can have a great impact on people’s lives
so please call, the number if you are suicidal. Also you will just miss out on everything to come, and also many good moments.
ua-cam.com/video/4-JXkCtiYWY/v-deo.html also watch this video
I wish I had you to help me.
What about older Americans like me?
Excellent points in this clip.
I actually met you at Dr. Allan Abbass' Immersion a couple of years ago.
So happy to see good information available to the general public and fellow practitioners.
Take care,
Sonya
Thank you Sonya - it's great to see other therapists willing to 'put themselves out there' by talking about therapy and mental health issues.
Sonya MacDonald Also if anyone is suicidal,
1-800-273-8255
Please call this number if you are contemplating suicide
A youtuber mentioned this number in one of his videos
It’s a suicide prevention hotline, if you don’t think it will help you, just try
Don’t worry, we care about you. You can get through this, believe me.
I know I am copy and pasting this, but I am so I can have a great impact on people’s lives
so please call, the number if you are suicidal. Also you will just miss out on everything to come, and also many good moments.
ua-cam.com/video/4-JXkCtiYWY/v-deo.html also watch this video
The term 'Commit suicide' relates to when it was illegal. You were 'Committing' a Crime
I have it a last ditch effort. I put your first and second video in its own separate playlist back to back. I’ve tried a lot, analytically fought suicide for years. But. Despite thinking looming at facts would help me as an analytical person I was terribly, horribly wrong. Don’t use me as an example. Just because I couldn’t hack it doesn’t mean others won’t
Can you do a video like this about self harm?
Very good idea - hope to get to it at some point!
Michaela Miller Also if anyone is suicidal,
1-800-273-8255
Please call this number if you are contemplating suicide
A youtuber mentioned this number in one of his videos
It’s a suicide prevention hotline, if you don’t think it will help you, just try
Don’t worry, we care about you. You can get through this, believe me.
I know I am copy and pasting this, but I am so I can have a great impact on people’s lives
so please call, the number if you are suicidal. Also you will just miss out on everything to come, and also many good moments.
ua-cam.com/video/4-JXkCtiYWY/v-deo.html also watch this video
10:25 we have a BINGO
This world gave me so heavy difficulties. I would been happier if I would die at 16 years age. I'm a Jehovah's Witness.
Excellent insightful, but n treatment options explored
I'll be shocked when uploaders actually pay attention to what they're uploading. Hearing from one side is really annoying. I'll pass.
Haiden Geary Also if anyone is suicidal,
1-800-273-8255
Please call this number if you are contemplating suicide
A youtuber mentioned this number in one of his videos
It’s a suicide prevention hotline, if you don’t think it will help you, just try
Don’t worry, we care about you. You can get through this, believe me.
I know I am copy and pasting this, but I am so I can have a great impact on people’s lives
so please call, the number if you are suicidal. Also you will just miss out on everything to come, and also many good moments.
ua-cam.com/video/4-JXkCtiYWY/v-deo.html also watch this video
I’m sure an MD would have a different opinion, based on their own research
"...of an individual and their situation" is grammatically incorrect. It is "his" situation. The number is singular not plural, "...an individual...."
Their/they can be used as a gender neutral singular pronoun.