The "T" serial number prefix, Grease Gun style bbl. nut retainer, and rough welds identify that gun as a S&W "Tool Room" gun......made in S&W's R&D shop in 1968 or 69
When I was in the Army, I got to fire a number of smg's (mostly in Panama), some well known and a few almost obscure. US military was supplying the PDF with surplus or somewhat outdated guns for canal zone defense.I shot Uzi's and H&Ks (hated both), Thompson (nothing good to say about them). But the m76 was a very good gun, easy to shoot, accurate, low cyclic rate and very low maintenance. There were scads of BARs and M14s, old somewhat rickety 1911's, that could have used a good going through but were serviceable.And a few cases of Browning High powers (???). Heard there were a bunch of M1 Garands from naval stores (don't know why they had them), but never saw one.
@@rathernotsay8185 not much of a story teller but I was a member of the 5th special forces group. I was a medic but when the occasion called for it I carried the Smith and Wesson sub gun. The thing is a bit heavy but the 36 round stick mags for perfectly in an empty gas mask case. Hahahaha
@@stevedaly730 I also carried one, but it was the 45 gustaf home here in Sweden. When I served it was the number 1 gun, easy to clean, easy to use, and good at using in defence
@@youtubefanbot6997 yes it was very easily field stripped. In my job I often carried different firearms. It depends on the mission. The Swedish K or the American knock off the S&W 76 were the best sub guns available.
I did my militaryservice in 1997 and I trained on the M45/B so I'd like to point out that the M45/A had the changable magwell to use both 50 and 36 round mags. The M45/B has a fixed magwell and uses only 36-round mags. The M45/B also has an reenforced rear endcap that has and extra "Hook" on the top of the reciver. A different system than the M76. The M45 has a flip rearsight with 100, 200 and 300 M ranges and the frontpost is adjustible sideways. Also. "Kulspruta" means "Machine gun". This is a "Kulsprutepistol", a "Submachinegun" or as it's translated "Machine-gun-pistol" meaning "a machine gun that uses pistol ammo". Would be fun to see you talk about the M45s. :-)
The front post was adjustable in both elevation and windage, albeit a bit crudely. It was fine threaded so if you turned a full turn clockwise or counterclockwise you lowered it or raised it one pitch of the thread.
The 36 round magazine was a Swedish development, an excellent design, simple and reliable. Finnish Army adopted it and lots of licensed copies were made in Finland by Lapua. The Suomi SMGs were adapted to use this mag, opening up the mag well. The 50 round double-double-row "coffin mag" was obsolete after the adaption of the 36 rounder.
Interesting side note about the S&W 76. The owner of a gun shop in Micanopy FL used one to defend his store from a group of thieves who ran an Oldsmobile through his shop's steel doors in the early morning a few decades ago. The geniuses didnt know he lived behind the store. He used the SMG in an attempt to disable the car as they were coming out of the store with armloads of rifles. The story comes up easily in a Google search if you'd like more info. The building is still pockmarked from the ensuing chaos
Love this glorious weapon it had a very remarkable role in 1956 "Suez canal war " known as the triple aggression the Egyptian licensed copy "EL-Porsaidy" was used By the Egyptians to rebel the "English - French - Israeli" forces out of Egypt
Those receiver 'stripes' are super cool for a number of engineering reasons. They also reduce the amount of precision boring that needs to be done to the receiver to get a close fit with the bolt, not to mention the overall precision needed, and they reduce friction while the bolt is in motion.
They were used by Army special forces as well . Not just in Vietnam , but Laos as well . They handle and fire well , but I carried a SK which most guys preferred . The XM was also decent .
Encountered one of these as a loaner at an indoor range in the mid 70's. Owned by a state policeman. I ran a couple of magazines through it at 25 yards. Wasn't too hard keeping 5-6 round bursts on a full size silhouette target. The folding stock was OK in use.
True story: In the 1970s, there was a joint Navy-CIA operation to place a wiretap on a Soviet military telephone cable that ran under the Sea of Okhotsk. Eventually the Soviets found it, and when they did, they had no trouble determining who put it there, because a number of internal components were marked PROPERTY OF UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.
I love this gun. I got my training on the Swedish K. I was in the navy in 1996. This is what we got training on. I can lob a 9mm from 150m straight between your eyes. Amazing feeling. I guess i was one of the last that got training on the Swedish K. After my class the Swedish Navy inherited the AK-4 from the Swedish Army.
Another thing on barrelremoval, you learned very fast on the m/45b (original swedish-k) to never change the ”livepipe”, as we called the barrel for live ammo loosely translated. In the armory you asked for ”shortloan” (short period loan) of a m/45b on wich you could change barrels, just because every time you opened the barrelshroud any shootpicture on that Gun was ”lost” and you had to rezero sights. After the exercise you handed back the shortloan. I had fellow officers that welded the barrelshroud in place just to have an accurate Gun, if you where a competitionshooter on submachinegun in the infantry the armory technicians looked another way on welding some kpist`s that was on long time loan to NCO and officers. Just How it was, swedish-k`s where not in short supplie, and anything that would potentially kill some more Soviet troops in a not so distant War was accepted practise.
I enjoy all of your presentations. You combine the history, the technical, the usage and effectiveness of each weapon in a concise manner which is easy to digest.
I have fired a model 76 and although crude and even ugly, it worked. I also fired the similar Port Said which I actually preferred. You will find it a pretty straight forward shooting gun.
I believe the S&W 76 was also issued to CIA station officers too. There's some famous film footage of the American embassy in Saigon under attack during the Tet Offensive and you can see a fellow in civilian clothes carrying one of these as he crouches behind some Marines.
Sweeden: Here are your guns. America: Awesome. Those will work great in Vietnam. Sweeden: Wait...You're actually going to use these guns? We only sell guns that will never be used. No deal. America: What just happened?
In all honesty, why didn't they just hire someone to buy the guns for them. (Like some super rich dude) and get the guns from him. Wouldn't it make more sense?
It was the unpopularity of the Vietnam war that made it political unwise to sell the gun to the US. The don’t sell to countries at war was more of a guideline then a rule. And it was a convenient way of not selling the guns and give away voters to the communists party.
Its Kulsprutepistol m/45 not Kulspruta m/45. Translates rougly as "Bullet sprayer pistol model 45." or "Machine gun pistol m/45" as Kulspruta is swedish for Machine gun.
It's also a suprisingly childlike and friendly sounding name "Kulspruta". It brings to mind images of water spraying (spruta: to spray) and marbles (kula: marble, hard round object) and the word (Kul: fun, enjoyable). A misspelling of the word "kul spruta" where you'd add a space in the name would change the meaning to "fun sprayer"
Every decade has an "IT" gun for action movies. The 1980s had the HK MP5A3. This was the one for the 1970s. Lee Marvin used one in one of his movies, it was seen in The Getaway, and numerous others.
Very popular in films. "The Omega Man", "The Getaway", "Mr. Majestic", "Prime Cut", and many other film and TV shows. There is a nice blank firing replica from Japan. Looks great and fires just like the real thing!
I’d love to see a company make something simple, along the lines of these “sub-guns” from 1940’s - 1960’s, with some updates for modern accessories. Make it in semi-auto to keep it “compliant”. Keep it easy to manufacture and the price reasonable. Something fun for the range.
@@justforever96 yeah that’s sad but true. I already have a PPS and a few others… but then I stuff all the way back to 1863. It’s all fun in different ways.
Looks interestingly similar to the 45b, but that has adjustable sights and a longer sight line. It has pretty good precision out to 100 m. Also I did not see the gap at the bottom if the receiver that is intended to drop out cases that wasnt ejected properly... that happens.
Given that I'm in a UA-cam comment section, I expect half MOA at 100m in full auto or it's not accurate enough for my deific shooting skillz.
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I have seen 90 year olds doing half moa with an m45b at a competition in Sweden. Standing. With only a sling as support. 5 round groups. Totally ridiculous. I told them that when the Russians come, I will stand them on the shore of Gotland and turn them eastwards. Problem solved.
Robert Shaw must have been a Fan of the M76...not only did he use one in "The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3", but he also used one in the end gun battle of "Black Sunday" 😁👍
@@DASSAMWASHERELP it really depends where you are I'm in Florida and almost all the outlets are flip the other way around with the ground on the bottom
Difference between kpist m/45 and Kpist m/45b was mainly the reinforcmenttab on top of rear boltstop, since breakage had caused some facial damages when conscripts mixed live and training ammo, trainingammo was woodtipped ammo shot from a narrower bored barrol and stopwasher in the pipes muzzle. Live ammo on that barrelconfig slung the bolt violently backwards and some conscripts lost vision and got Severe head damage around moutharea. Large suomi drummags was very early discharged due to failure to feed issues. I used to work at a armory on a infantry regiment.
When i clicked on this the next recommended video was the Swedish k and im like "is this not the same thing as that?" About 10 seconds into the video i confirmed my suspicion
With the swedish k you use the frontsight adjustment key to press down the tap holding the barrelshroud. We trained to disassemble and assemble completely in under 30 seconds.
I absolutely love how simple this gun is with its field stripping. Somebody that’s never seen a gun before would be able to figure out how to take it apart and put it back together without issue.
Njaa at least the m/45 has some rules for disassembly and assembly. The barrel shroud nut is locked in position by a narrow edge. It is important to keep that edge pushed in while loosening or tightening the nut.
A funny hack with the MP45 is that you can put in two recoil springs to speed up the firing rate, however It will not cock up then so single shots and burst are disabled. ;) Still works when its full of snow.
Those who compete with the m/45 usually put in a little weld to keep the barrel put, no problems to get the cleaning rod in from behind. On the m/45 the front sight is on the barrelshroud at the front. Adjustable for height and windage, by rotating it...... flip sight in the back. Was some 35 years since a fired one, but you heard the bolt running towards the front, a little like an old flintlock gun. Squeez the trigger and wait and wait and bang. Some people could master it and put a lot of 10s in 2 and 300 meter shooting.
Love this guns cameo in the dark knight. I remember reading a green beret memoir and he talks about how impressed with the silenced Swedish k/s&w he was. Said it was unbelievebly quiet, no flash, perfect for jungle ambush. Then he actually got into a fire fight and unloaded on a guy who reacted like he'd been stung by a wasp a bunch of times, didn't die or even drop and nearly killed him. Swapped it out with something that had more oomph moment they got back.
I like that there a some more range videos coming, sure the technical stuff and the history of a gun is interesting, but seeing how it actually works is the best.
I would add, having had the chance to use the M-45 (not B) also, I would take the K anytime. It was quite easy to single tap off also, you could bust soda cans from the shoulder at 100 yards no problem.
As someone who knows very little about firearms it would be really interesting if you did a tutorial about how to actually clean a gun. I'm sure there are certain methods and maybe you have to use the right cleaning fluids? Do not know but it would be interesting to find out .
Yeeah, Ian doesn't do tutorials. Iraqveteran8888 should have a good cleaning video. Of course, everyone has their own method and level of stringency. Some guys clean their guns once or twice a year, others clean the barrel every few weeks and only clean the rest once or twice a year, and others still clean everything after every range day. I'm one of the latter myself, I like cleaning my guns.
@@kylekomicbro1836 the weapon has no real blemishes, it's probably got about 5 thousand rounds through it. It's got 10 magazines, still have the box and booklet from Smith and wesson. My grand father loved machine guns, he bought 20 of them between 1950 and 1985. Still have em all too.
You keep saying you're Ian Mcullen, but we see you Gun Jesus, we see you. Although thank you for your dedication Ian, from me and all of your subscribers.
Hey, it was good enough for Charlton Heston in "The Omega Man"! It wasn't actually a bad gun, my experience with the one I fired was it went bang reliably, it wasn't even necessary to use the selector- you could tap off single rounds quite easily.
Mmm. The 36 round stick mags were not a Finnish thing, just to clarify. That was a Swedish invention/development for their M/45 (Swedish K´s). The finns had their 50 rd coffin mags and the 71 rd drum ones for their Suomi SMGs guns . Yes, the first versions of the M/45 accepted those because the swedes had adopted the Suomis some time before, but when the M/45 B came, they only accepted the 36 rd box mags. The Swedish K could also have the fire selector, in mainly their police models M45 D as you correctly you point out in the Swedish K video. Great video, just wanted to clear things out.
Aactually the Kulsprutepistol m/45B (Kpist m/45B) was the version with the rear piece reinforced and with an extra hook to prevent the weapon's end piece from coming loose and hit the shooter. The Suomi-magazine is the 50-round magazine (orginally made för the Suomi submachine gun). The 36-round two columns magazine was of pure Swedish design and was copied by many weapon manufacturers.
I had the M45B when I did my military service and as far as I can remember, with the slow cyclic rate it had, it felt quite unnecessary with a semi auto function. Unless they scared the rate of fire up to a higher level on this one.
S&W 76 is a fun gun to shoot. You will enjoy this gun very much, just make sure the stock is perfectly locked in before you put it to your shoulder and pull the trigger.
Ian, as always, quality production! At the end of the video you mentioned C&R status coming up in 2024. Which raises the question of, how does that affect an NFA weapon's status? I was of the impression that no matter how old, if it's full auto it requires a tax stamp.
All NFA rules apply to C&R machine guns. Once the NFA transfer clears, a C&R machine gun can ship interstate from the seller to a C&R license holder, where otherwise an interstate transfer must go through a licensed dealer.
The Swedish model had no safety switch. The cocking handle was moved up into a trap slot. Took a little longer to ready the weapon, but it was really reliable. *ETA:* It was apparently the same as on the Sten Mk 2.
Great as always. Strange thing is I got distracted by that wonky electrical socket on ians right. Tell the auction house to put it right as the OCD crew are having a fit about now 😵😵😵
Interesting to see the differnces to the 45/B. Most of the Changes are to the better, the 45/B is needlessly good for the intention, and heavy at least as much as the G3 I lugged around during my service.
great to get these videos! I find the history of firearms from WW1 and 2! and also where the technology evolved forwards afterwards! Kulspruta kinda means bullet spraying gun! kula= ball pistolkula = pistol bullet att spruta = to spray den svensk kullsprutan = the swedish bullet hose kullspruta = bullet hose
I wonder if a gun featured on Forgotten Weapons will gain value at auction a few years down the line? 🤔 This gun was held and fired by Gun Jesus 🙏 Blessed Be
It's not reeeally accurate to call the 36 round sticks Suomi magazines, since they were designed for the Swedish m/45 smg (the "Swedish K"), which originally took all variations of legacy "suomi" mags (though the context is really the Kpist 37-39, the Swedish variant in 9x19), chiefly the also originally Swedish coffin style. As said, the m/45b took only the new stick type. The 36 round stick was adopted to use with proper (i.e. Finnish) Suomis only about a decade later, when they were licensed from Sweden. So while the compatibility comes from interchangeability with the late Swedish Suomi variant, it's more appropriately a Kpist m/45 magazine.
If you have no intention of supplying nations at war,what is the point of manufacturing weapons in the first place? I always smile when I see a spring-loaded end cap. "Serge,my end-cap has gone into the river! " " Well,my lad,you know what to do about that,don't you,now? Get in after it! MOVE! " ( Followed by background splash,and guffaws).
The welding looks like it was from the same people who welded the chairs at my highschool
T prefix means tool room gun, or research and development sample.
This gun just was outsourced to Soviets.
Zap, zap, zap! "There, I'm done. Can I shoot it now?"
It really does look like something you could make in a garage or highschool shop class.
The first thing I thought when I started watching this video is "Where did Smith&Wesson find a welding hood that fit a seeing eye dog?"
Indeed - they are a bit ropey.
The "T" serial number prefix, Grease Gun style bbl. nut retainer, and rough welds identify that gun as a S&W "Tool Room" gun......made in S&W's R&D shop in 1968 or 69
Wow! Very cool info
Interesting
Hopefully this comment gets pinned for all the people talking about the welds.
Would be nice to hear a price or how much they went for at auction
Yes, Ian explains that in tomorrow's video
When I was in the Army, I got to fire a number of smg's (mostly in Panama), some well known and a few almost obscure. US military was supplying the PDF with surplus or somewhat outdated guns for canal zone defense.I shot Uzi's and H&Ks (hated both), Thompson (nothing good to say about them). But the m76 was a very good gun, easy to shoot, accurate, low cyclic rate and very low maintenance. There were scads of BARs and M14s, old somewhat rickety 1911's, that could have used a good going through but were serviceable.And a few cases of Browning High powers (???). Heard there were a bunch of M1 Garands from naval stores (don't know why they had them), but never saw one.
The star in this episode is that wall socket ... :-)
And it doesn't even look like it is installed straight
I was wondering if I was the only one to notice!
@@itchy1tch It is very PC You know, to get through YT censorship.😉
For some reason it is REALLY hard to not look at it. My eyes go back to it every time I lose focus even the slightest...
Installed by century arms!
I carried one of these in Vietnam. I don't know about retail success but it served me well..
Steve Daly I used an Uzi
Tell us more!
@@rathernotsay8185 not much of a story teller but I was a member of the 5th special forces group. I was a medic but when the occasion called for it I carried the Smith and Wesson sub gun.
The thing is a bit heavy but the 36 round stick mags for perfectly in an empty gas mask case. Hahahaha
@@stevedaly730 I also carried one, but it was the 45 gustaf home here in Sweden. When I served it was the number 1 gun, easy to clean, easy to use, and good at using in defence
@@youtubefanbot6997 yes it was very easily field stripped. In my job I often carried different firearms. It depends on the mission. The Swedish K or the American knock off the S&W 76 were the best sub guns available.
I did my militaryservice in 1997 and I trained on the M45/B so I'd like to point out that the M45/A had the changable magwell to use both 50 and 36 round mags. The M45/B has a fixed magwell and uses only 36-round mags. The M45/B also has an reenforced rear endcap that has and extra "Hook" on the top of the reciver. A different system than the M76.
The M45 has a flip rearsight with 100, 200 and 300 M ranges and the frontpost is adjustible sideways.
Also. "Kulspruta" means "Machine gun". This is a "Kulsprutepistol", a "Submachinegun" or as it's translated "Machine-gun-pistol" meaning "a machine gun that uses pistol ammo".
Would be fun to see you talk about the M45s. :-)
The front post was adjustable in both elevation and windage, albeit a bit crudely. It was fine threaded so if you turned a full turn clockwise or counterclockwise you lowered it or raised it one pitch of the thread.
Yeah, I don't remember the m/45B I was issues had a removable magwell!
300m 9mm is a little optimistic, even 200m is tough.
@@beerthug Well, with the 600rpm, you could probably take a few single-shot's at whatever the target was without hosing it with bullets.
The 36 round magazine was a Swedish development, an excellent design, simple and reliable. Finnish Army adopted it and lots of licensed copies were made in Finland by Lapua. The Suomi SMGs were adapted to use this mag, opening up the mag well. The 50 round double-double-row "coffin mag" was obsolete after the adaption of the 36 rounder.
Did the KP-44 (9mm PPS-43) use this same 36 round magazine?
@@williamflowers9435 Yes, even before the m/31.
Interesting side note about the S&W 76. The owner of a gun shop in Micanopy FL used one to defend his store from a group of thieves who ran an Oldsmobile through his shop's steel doors in the early morning a few decades ago. The geniuses didnt know he lived behind the store. He used the SMG in an attempt to disable the car as they were coming out of the store with armloads of rifles. The story comes up easily in a Google search if you'd like more info. The building is still pockmarked from the ensuing chaos
“THERE IS NO PHONE RINGING DAMN IT!!!”
Omega Man
One of my favorite guns since seeing the movie.
Saw it as a kid. Helston made so many cool Sci-Fi movies back then.
That movie scared the crap out of me back in the day
Love this glorious weapon
it had a very remarkable role in 1956 "Suez canal war " known as the triple aggression
the Egyptian licensed copy "EL-Porsaidy" was used By the Egyptians to rebel the "English - French - Israeli" forces out of Egypt
Those receiver 'stripes' are super cool for a number of engineering reasons. They also reduce the amount of precision boring that needs to be done to the receiver to get a close fit with the bolt, not to mention the overall precision needed, and they reduce friction while the bolt is in motion.
They were used by Army special forces as well . Not just in Vietnam , but Laos as well . They handle and fire well , but I carried a SK which most guys preferred . The XM was also decent .
Encountered one of these as a loaner at an indoor range in the mid 70's. Owned by a state policeman. I ran a couple of magazines through it at 25 yards. Wasn't too hard keeping 5-6 round bursts on a full size silhouette target. The folding stock was OK in use.
US Navy: "We want plausible deniability." Smith and Wesson: proceeds to stamp gun with their name.
derp.
True story: In the 1970s, there was a joint Navy-CIA operation to place a wiretap on a Soviet military telephone cable that ran under the Sea of Okhotsk. Eventually the Soviets found it, and when they did, they had no trouble determining who put it there, because a number of internal components were marked PROPERTY OF UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.
@@ZGryphon That would be JINFU.
Joint Intelligence-Navy Fuck Up
@@ZGryphon Op Ivy Bells. I just finished reading Blind Man's Bluff.
He was talking abut the K's
I love this gun. I got my training on the Swedish K. I was in the navy in 1996. This is what we got training on. I can lob a 9mm from 150m straight between your eyes. Amazing feeling. I guess i was one of the last that got training on the Swedish K. After my class the Swedish Navy inherited the AK-4 from the Swedish Army.
Can you even see the eyes at 150m?
@@DDDSSDDDSSDDDSS eyes? You see the round target and try to hit in the middle. 150 m is not enough distance not to see shapes
Dude has what must be the coolest job, ever! Imagine getting to handle and shoot all the cool weapons he does!
Another thing on barrelremoval, you learned very fast on the m/45b (original swedish-k) to never change the ”livepipe”, as we called the barrel for live ammo loosely translated. In the armory you asked for ”shortloan” (short period loan) of a m/45b on wich you could change barrels, just because every time you opened the barrelshroud any shootpicture on that Gun was ”lost” and you had to rezero sights. After the exercise you handed back the shortloan. I had fellow officers that welded the barrelshroud in place just to have an accurate Gun, if you where a competitionshooter on submachinegun in the infantry the armory technicians looked another way on welding some kpist`s that was on long time loan to NCO and officers. Just How it was, swedish-k`s where not in short supplie, and anything that would potentially kill some more Soviet troops in a not so distant War was accepted practise.
Ah, yes, because the Swedes are a practical people. Try this in the US Army and you're toast.
I enjoy all of your presentations. You combine the history, the technical, the usage and effectiveness of each weapon in a concise manner which is easy to digest.
I have fired a model 76 and although crude and even ugly, it worked. I also fired the similar Port Said which I actually preferred. You will find it a pretty straight forward shooting gun.
I believe the S&W 76 was also issued to CIA station officers too. There's some famous film footage of the American embassy in Saigon under attack during the Tet Offensive and you can see a fellow in civilian clothes carrying one of these as he crouches behind some Marines.
Attica! Attica! Attica!
We want the original M/45 Carl Gustav!!!
Hardly forgotten, and really really simple :D
Like everything else, Ian will most likely do a video on one if he gets his hands on one to make a video of.
@@meanmanturbo one day i hope.
I have a video of one in the meantime.
Hear, hear!!
Sweeden: Here are your guns.
America: Awesome. Those will work great in Vietnam.
Sweeden: Wait...You're actually going to use these guns? We only sell guns that will never be used. No deal.
America: What just happened?
@Henning Malland and?
@SgtDrDeath are America and Switzerland the top two on that list?
In all honesty, why didn't they just hire someone to buy the guns for them. (Like some super rich dude) and get the guns from him. Wouldn't it make more sense?
"For defense only"
It was the unpopularity of the Vietnam war that made it political unwise to sell the gun to the US.
The don’t sell to countries at war was more of a guideline then a rule. And it was a convenient way of not selling the guns and give away voters to the communists party.
This gun makes me feel good about my welds.
well, quality aside, this thing looks like a fallout 4 pipe gun. it just needs some radioactive wood furniture.
To me this gun looks like an amateur tried craft his own mp40 or ppsh43
I hope this gun is in Fallout 76.
The M/45 also had fire selectors, but only the Police version.
Its Kulsprutepistol m/45 not Kulspruta m/45. Translates rougly as "Bullet sprayer pistol model 45." or "Machine gun pistol m/45" as Kulspruta is swedish for Machine gun.
It's also a suprisingly childlike and friendly sounding name "Kulspruta". It brings to mind images of water spraying (spruta: to spray) and marbles (kula: marble, hard round object) and the word (Kul: fun, enjoyable).
A misspelling of the word "kul spruta" where you'd add a space in the name would change the meaning to "fun sprayer"
Fler svenskar än jag sitter alltså och tittar på vapen man aldrig någonsin kommer kunna köpa ;-)
At least it is not "Kuksprute" ;w;
More machine pistol than machine gun pistol.
@@MrAlfgren skaffa samlarlicens. Och vapenhistoria och funktion är ju alltid intressant.
Very interesting video as always! Thanks to this channel, I truly understand the inner workings of firearms. Keep up the good work!
I’ve been quite fascinated by this gun since I saw the Joker using it in ‘The Dark Knight’. Great video as always!!
Every decade has an "IT" gun for action movies. The 1980s had the HK MP5A3. This was the one for the 1970s. Lee Marvin used one in one of his movies, it was seen in The Getaway, and numerous others.
Very popular in films. "The Omega Man", "The Getaway", "Mr. Majestic", "Prime Cut", and many other film and TV shows. There is a nice blank firing replica from Japan. Looks great and fires just like the real thing!
I’d love to see a company make something simple, along the lines of these “sub-guns” from 1940’s - 1960’s, with some updates for modern accessories. Make it in semi-auto to keep it “compliant”. Keep it easy to manufacture and the price reasonable. Something fun for the range.
@@justforever96 yeah that’s sad but true. I already have a PPS and a few others… but then I stuff all the way back to 1863. It’s all fun in different ways.
Charlton Heston was seen using this SMG in the movie called The Omega Man, released in 1971.
Great film, great actor and fantastic NRA guy.
First thing I notice is the electrical outlet is not plumb, it is distracting.
It was used by Robert Neville from the Omega man and Joker from the dark knight.
Excellent delivery.
Can we stop for a moment to give a shout out to the welder who did this work- those welds are beautiful!
Looks interestingly similar to the 45b, but that has adjustable sights and a longer sight line. It has pretty good precision out to 100 m. Also I did not see the gap at the bottom if the receiver that is intended to drop out cases that wasnt ejected properly... that happens.
Given that I'm in a UA-cam comment section, I expect half MOA at 100m in full auto or it's not accurate enough for my deific shooting skillz.
I have seen 90 year olds doing half moa with an m45b at a competition in Sweden. Standing. With only a sling as support. 5 round groups. Totally ridiculous. I told them that when the Russians come, I will stand them on the shore of Gotland and turn them eastwards. Problem solved.
Robert Shaw must have been a Fan of the M76...not only did he use one in "The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3", but he also used one in the end gun battle of "Black Sunday" 😁👍
Really informative presentation, but I'm trying to figure out the slightly crooked power outlet.
Oh my God that outlet is so crooked... Sorry electrician I noticed things like that
At least it isn't installed upside down.
@@DASSAMWASHERELP it really depends where you are I'm in Florida and almost all the outlets are flip the other way around with the ground on the bottom
Same xD
HA! I caught that right at the end.
Always figured the ground prong facing up was upside down.
Looks like you could bend the front sight up or down to adjust elevation- super crude but could work
Another great video Ian always watch your stuff before morning PT!
Difference between kpist m/45 and Kpist m/45b was mainly the reinforcmenttab on top of rear boltstop, since breakage had caused some facial damages when conscripts mixed live and training ammo, trainingammo was woodtipped ammo shot from a narrower bored barrol and stopwasher in the pipes muzzle. Live ammo on that barrelconfig slung the bolt violently backwards and some conscripts lost vision and got Severe head damage around moutharea. Large suomi drummags was very early discharged due to failure to feed issues. I used to work at a armory on a infantry regiment.
One of the best open bolt guns I’ve fired. Very comfy and with cool history, this baby tops my favorite smg list
When i clicked on this the next recommended video was the Swedish k and im like "is this not the same thing as that?" About 10 seconds into the video i confirmed my suspicion
My first class 3 weapon . Sweet shooter. With AWC can and subsonic ammo it was quieter than a a typewriter. It’s long gone now .
With the swedish k you use the frontsight adjustment key to press down the tap holding the barrelshroud.
We trained to disassemble and assemble completely in under 30 seconds.
I miss the Rock Island guy chiming in on the videos
Charlton Heston uses one in The Omega Man like a boss.
I absolutely love how simple this gun is with its field stripping. Somebody that’s never seen a gun before would be able to figure out how to take it apart and put it back together without issue.
Njaa at least the m/45 has some rules for disassembly and assembly.
The barrel shroud nut is locked in position by a narrow edge. It is important to keep that edge pushed in while loosening or tightening the nut.
Thank you , Ian .
The only full-auto gun I've had a chance to shoot. A friend's dad has had one forever. Lots of fun to shoot.
Always great stuff on this channel. Keep it up Ian.
A funny hack with the MP45 is that you can put in two recoil springs to speed up the firing rate, however It will not cock up then so single shots and burst are disabled. ;)
Still works when its full of snow.
I like the sling rods. Simply a tough way to attach a sling
Those who compete with the m/45 usually put in a little weld to keep the barrel put, no problems to get the cleaning rod in from behind. On the m/45 the front sight is on the barrelshroud at the front. Adjustable for height and windage, by rotating it...... flip sight in the back. Was some 35 years since a fired one, but you heard the bolt running towards the front, a little like an old flintlock gun. Squeez the trigger and wait and wait and bang. Some people could master it and put a lot of 10s in 2 and 300 meter shooting.
This machine pistol is excellent. Machined receiver and solid as hell. If you ever need one of these.
Love this guns cameo in the dark knight. I remember reading a green beret memoir and he talks about how impressed with the silenced Swedish k/s&w he was. Said it was unbelievebly quiet, no flash, perfect for jungle ambush. Then he actually got into a fire fight and unloaded on a guy who reacted like he'd been stung by a wasp a bunch of times, didn't die or even drop and nearly killed him. Swapped it out with something that had more oomph moment they got back.
Motivated to live.
I like that there a some more range videos coming, sure the technical stuff and the history of a gun is interesting, but seeing how it actually works is the best.
I would add, having had the chance to use the M-45 (not B) also, I would take the K anytime. It was quite easy to single tap off also, you could bust soda cans from the shoulder at 100 yards no problem.
found one in a creek with a silencer on it.Worked great when cleaned wonder how it got there.
I stashed it there, would you be so kind as to return it?
As someone who knows very little about firearms it would be really interesting if you did a tutorial about how to actually clean a gun. I'm sure there are certain methods and maybe you have to use the right cleaning fluids? Do not know but it would be interesting to find out .
Yeeah, Ian doesn't do tutorials. Iraqveteran8888 should have a good cleaning video. Of course, everyone has their own method and level of stringency. Some guys clean their guns once or twice a year, others clean the barrel every few weeks and only clean the rest once or twice a year, and others still clean everything after every range day. I'm one of the latter myself, I like cleaning my guns.
We've had one of these in the family since the late 70's, a 1970 model year. It's a great gun to shoot nice and controllable.
Did it have obvious wielding marks everywhere that were less than flattering to look at?
@@kylekomicbro1836 the weapon has no real blemishes, it's probably got about 5 thousand rounds through it. It's got 10 magazines, still have the box and booklet from Smith and wesson. My grand father loved machine guns, he bought 20 of them between 1950 and 1985. Still have em all too.
The plug, spring and bolt are VERY Sten like. But then it's a simple SMG just like the Sten. I like it.
You keep saying you're Ian Mcullen, but we see you Gun Jesus, we see you.
Although thank you for your dedication Ian, from me and all of your subscribers.
This crookedly mounted electric socket behind Ian really bugs me....
I dig the mismatched steel cover plate also, no fucks given.
Hey, it was good enough for Charlton Heston in "The Omega Man"! It wasn't actually a bad gun, my experience with the one I fired was it went bang reliably, it wasn't even necessary to use the selector- you could tap off single rounds quite easily.
Mmm. The 36 round stick mags were not a Finnish thing, just to clarify. That was a Swedish invention/development for their M/45 (Swedish K´s). The finns had their 50 rd coffin mags and the 71 rd drum ones for their Suomi SMGs guns . Yes, the first versions of the M/45 accepted those because the swedes had adopted the Suomis some time before, but when the M/45 B came, they only accepted the 36 rd box mags. The Swedish K could also have the fire selector, in mainly their police models M45 D as you correctly you point out in the Swedish K video. Great video, just wanted to clear things out.
Aactually the Kulsprutepistol m/45B (Kpist m/45B) was the version with the rear piece reinforced and with an extra hook to prevent the weapon's end piece from coming loose and hit the shooter. The Suomi-magazine is the 50-round magazine (orginally made för the Suomi submachine gun). The 36-round two columns magazine was of pure Swedish design and was copied by many weapon manufacturers.
Now to trick Ian into doing a video on the original... Pleeeeeease?
I had the M45B when I did my military service and as far as I can remember, with the slow cyclic rate it had, it felt quite unnecessary with a semi auto function. Unless they scared the rate of fire up to a higher level on this one.
Those welds are not common I’ve seen 76’s with nice welds it looks like they just got ahold of one where it was the welders first day.
~ Stared in "THE OMEGA MAN" ~ Charlton Heston blasts the creatures with it in mankinds final pandemic.
This is the gun the Joker uses in the "C'mon hit me!/Capture " scene in The Dark Knight. Pretty cool choice!
@ 4:10, The Front Sight was probably adjusted by bending up/down & left/right.
S&W 76 is a fun gun to shoot. You will enjoy this gun very much, just make sure the stock is perfectly locked in before you put it to your shoulder and pull the trigger.
Ian, as always, quality production!
At the end of the video you mentioned C&R status coming up in 2024. Which raises the question of, how does that affect an NFA weapon's status? I was of the impression that no matter how old, if it's full auto it requires a tax stamp.
All NFA rules apply to C&R machine guns. Once the NFA transfer clears, a C&R machine gun can ship interstate from the seller to a C&R license holder, where otherwise an interstate transfer must go through a licensed dealer.
@@ForgottenWeapons thank you very much
I saw this gun in the dark knight.
I´m often staggerd how simple this guns are built.
That front sight is infinitely adjustable you just need a pair of pliers
thanks for making this video
You gotta love the simplicity of this gun
The Swedish model had no safety switch. The cocking handle was moved up into a trap slot. Took a little longer to ready the weapon, but it was really reliable.
*ETA:* It was apparently the same as on the Sten Mk 2.
It was also the SMG that Charlton Heston used in 'The Omega Man'.
Great as always. Strange thing is I got distracted by that wonky electrical socket on ians right. Tell the auction house to put it right as the OCD crew are having a fit about now 😵😵😵
Interesting to see the differnces to the 45/B. Most of the Changes are to the better, the 45/B is needlessly good for the intention, and heavy at least as much as the G3 I lugged around during my service.
It was too heavy, to that I can agree, but "needlessly good"?... Nah, they were like
“HIT ME!”
They were a nice match for 79 as close combat weapon.
The handle looks nice.
This gun looked so good in the Dark Knight I just had to find out what it is, the cheap, rugged build is perfect for the Joker!
great to get these videos! I find the history of firearms from WW1 and 2! and also where the technology evolved forwards afterwards!
Kulspruta kinda means bullet spraying gun!
kula= ball
pistolkula = pistol bullet
att spruta = to spray
den svensk kullsprutan = the swedish bullet hose
kullspruta = bullet hose
The receiver is machined and the gun is very well made.
It kinda looks like it was the inspiration for the first gun you get in the new wolfinstine.
I wonder if a gun featured on Forgotten Weapons will gain value at auction a few years down the line? 🤔
This gun was held and fired by Gun Jesus 🙏 Blessed Be
Praise the lord and pass the ammunition
It's not reeeally accurate to call the 36 round sticks Suomi magazines, since they were designed for the Swedish m/45 smg (the "Swedish K"), which originally took all variations of legacy "suomi" mags (though the context is really the Kpist 37-39, the Swedish variant in 9x19), chiefly the also originally Swedish coffin style. As said, the m/45b took only the new stick type. The 36 round stick was adopted to use with proper (i.e. Finnish) Suomis only about a decade later, when they were licensed from Sweden. So while the compatibility comes from interchangeability with the late Swedish Suomi variant, it's more appropriately a Kpist m/45 magazine.
The Swedish K. I've read about this gun in several Vietnam War novels.
This gun sees a fair amount of action in the Heston film Omega Man.
The serial number's "T" prefix means the gun is a "tool room" pre-production prototype gun.
If you have no intention of supplying nations at war,what is the point of manufacturing weapons in the first place? I always smile when I see a spring-loaded end cap. "Serge,my end-cap has gone into the river! " " Well,my lad,you know what to do about that,don't you,now? Get in after it! MOVE! " ( Followed by background splash,and guffaws).
It is so utilitarian and beautiful at the same time.