5 MISTAKES Successful Public Land Elk Hunters DON'T MAKE

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  • Опубліковано 10 вер 2024

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  • @MTwildguides
    @MTwildguides 6 днів тому +3

    I couldn't have said it better myself. As a MT wilderness guide for almost 3 decades, I can attest to your sound advice. I'm headed into the field this weekend and I've put a link to this video on our FB for our clients to review. This elk guide granny gives you a "thumbs up". Well done!👍

  • @DustinBasom-wh6lt
    @DustinBasom-wh6lt 25 днів тому +6

    Sounds like awesome advice and hopefully it helps me this September on my first archery elk hunt in Montana

  • @jeffjohnson3302
    @jeffjohnson3302 26 днів тому +11

    You just nailed 25 years of my experience! 100% agree!

  • @richardmonson8657
    @richardmonson8657 6 днів тому +1

    A lot of great elk hunters out there. And a lot still learning. What you bring to the table are solid skills and the ability to teach. Learn something new or often corroborate what I learned the hard way every time I watch. Great content.

    • @CliffGray
      @CliffGray  6 днів тому

      Thanks Richard, really appreciate it

  • @jons2cool1
    @jons2cool1 13 днів тому

    I'm a lot more prepared this year than last year. From this video I'm going to research calling positions more and plan my route for good glassing locations. I've spent the last couple months practicing with my bow and I can shoot vitals sized groups out to 60 yards. I practiced shooting from kneeling and also completely seated and I'm just as accurate from those positions. I have been practicing with diaphragm calls for over a month and I can do a basic cow call and a locator bugle. I went out and tested my camping gear last weekend, I realized I need a better ground pad and more waterproof gear so I've ordered improved gear. I know the limit of my feet is about 4 or 5 days of hunting so that is all I've taken off work. I live at 6,000 feet and I'm in my 20s so elevation isn't much of a problem for me. I've been out scouting several times this year. Last weekend I noticed that the elk aren't where they usually are, hunters moving in and setting up their campsites, riding side-by-sides down trails, and spreading their scent in the area has caused the elk to move deeper and further from roads. I have 2 different knives, a bone saw, and a wet stone for processing an elk. I am excited to go elk hunting, but I've managed my expectations because I know how hard it is to get an elk. If nothing else this archery hunt will provide me with information for rifle season.

  • @hadleytorres8171
    @hadleytorres8171 26 днів тому +1

    I haven't hunted in 15 years. I'm hunting mule deer and elk this year in utah. Having a phone to take a picture of where I'm standing and where I shot my animal is a huge change that will certainly help. I wouldn't have thought of that without your advice. Thanks for the detailed information, I've forgotten so much.

    • @CliffGray
      @CliffGray  26 днів тому +1

      Glad was helpful! Appreciate the comment

  • @XhaleSpearfishing
    @XhaleSpearfishing 24 дні тому +3

    My Guy always putting out the best content for the people!

  • @yanceymcdonald6017
    @yanceymcdonald6017 25 днів тому +6

    I will add this little tidbit to all of the wise advice Cliff just gave. For all of you guys that are unmarried. Tell the girl that you were with right now that you go on hunts sometimes for weeks before you marry her, and make her give you a direct yes or no answer before you marry her. The answer you get will tell you whether or not you wanna marry her. This is a lot of hunting seasons end of divorce worth of experience. 😂
    I have absolutely no problems with my now wife.

  • @nativewarrior5052
    @nativewarrior5052 22 дні тому +2

    Make one of these for post rut rifle season! Us late October hunters are gonna needs advice for finding bulls after the rut.

  • @Naumets1
    @Naumets1 2 дні тому +2

    Good Info For Sure Thankyou

  • @TimSteinmetz-wh1hs
    @TimSteinmetz-wh1hs 16 днів тому

    Thanks for speaking about the reality of shot animal recovery rates in archery hunting. I wish more people would do that. All the other UA-cam content would lead a new archer to believe they can hit a bull almost anywhere and expect a whirling vortex of blood like an oscillating sprinkler and a dead elk within 50 yards. And I imagine that kind of content actually leads to more wounded animals because people watch the guy on UA-cam hit the carotid on that 60 yard frontal shot and head out there expecting to do the same, and therefore taking more risky shots. My archery experience is with whitetail. For me, about 60% of the time I release an arrow it results in a recovered deer. I'm sure it would be less with elk.

  • @garrett2980
    @garrett2980 26 днів тому +1

    Really appreciate the video on this. Been watching for a while and enjoy the content. Personal opinion - the constant change in camera angles is distracting on this one. Thanks for all of the help in the elk woods!

    • @CliffGray
      @CliffGray  26 днів тому

      Thanks Garrett. Appreciate the feedback. I'll find a happy medium, I feel the same about this one. a bit too much

  • @bubbles4471
    @bubbles4471 26 днів тому +2

    Maybe you have, but if you made a video about the final setup, that would be awesome!

    • @CliffGray
      @CliffGray  26 днів тому +3

      I'll work on a setup video

  • @jslull
    @jslull 26 днів тому +26

    1st mistake… not keeping up on these videos

    • @CliffGray
      @CliffGray  26 днів тому +1

      bwhahaha! that's right. :)

    • @mattf6397
      @mattf6397 25 днів тому

      ​@@CliffGray😂😂y😊😊

  • @JackrabbitAppraisersLLC-kr1fc
    @JackrabbitAppraisersLLC-kr1fc 26 днів тому +2

    Man I miss your content... you are HANDS DOWN the fukin best... thx
    Poor Willy

  • @mountainlivin
    @mountainlivin 26 днів тому +1

    Outstanding advice. Love the truth in it

    • @CliffGray
      @CliffGray  26 днів тому

      thanks! appreciate the support

  • @desertclimber78
    @desertclimber78 26 днів тому +1

    Good stuff as always, Cliff!

  • @chuckparson6712
    @chuckparson6712 25 днів тому

    Elk Expert without a doubt 👍👍

  • @CarolinaNocked
    @CarolinaNocked 23 дні тому

    Great info. None of the links your reference made it into the video. Would love to see those. 2 weeks and counting. Lots to consider but also good to know I’ve been doing a lot of these things in prep 👊

    • @tonesmith909
      @tonesmith909 18 днів тому

      Theyre there for me sir…🤔

  • @brianpeters3298
    @brianpeters3298 24 дні тому

    Great perspective man. Good advice.

  • @kriskodisko
    @kriskodisko 16 днів тому

    I just watched this video the other day on my lunch and was like "huh, if I ever hunt elk, I'll be better off".
    Ffwd to today, watching a Meateater hunt on the outdoor channel and the guide is repetitively bugling while the elk is 20 yards away! (That or it was just cheesy tv sound effects put in by someone else) All I could do was smile as the bull ran away and think about this video.

  • @bringthefitenow
    @bringthefitenow 10 днів тому

    You called out me and my buddies by name, multiple times! 😫

  • @ridgerunner1977
    @ridgerunner1977 25 днів тому +1

    Great advice

  • @indyreno2933
    @indyreno2933 20 днів тому

    The Elk (Cervus canadensis), also known as the wapiti is a large deer species native to North America and Eastern Asia, it is the largest of the six extant deer species constituting the genus Cervus and the second largest deer species alive today, with only the Moose (Alces alces) being larger, the closest living relative of the elk is the Hangul (Cervus hanglu) that resides in Central Asia, there are fifteen known subspecies of elk: the Tibetan Elk (Cervus canadensis wallichii), the Kansu Elk (Cervus canadensis kansuensis), the Sichuan Elk (Cervus canadensis macneilli), the Mongolian Elk (Cervus canadensis mongoliensis), the Alashan Elk (Cervus canadensis alashanicus), the Tian Shan Elk (Cervus canadensis songaricus), the Manchurian Elk (Cervus canadensis xanthopygus), the †Korean Elk (Cervus canadensis coreanus), the Siberian Elk (Cervus canadensis sibiricus), the Roosevelt Elk (Cervus canadensis roosevelti), the Rocky Mountain Elk (Cervus canadensis nelsoni), the Tule Elk (Cervus canadensis nannodes), the †Merriam's Elk (Cervus canadensis merriami), the Manitoba Elk (Cervus canadensis manitobensis), and the †Algonquin Elk (Cervus canadensis canadensis).

  • @Bredsun
    @Bredsun 25 днів тому +2

    How are you supposed to pinpoint the elks exact location after a location bugle? That logic would seem to work both ways. Would you move in to where you think they are and try to either spot or use more subtle calls?

    • @CliffGray
      @CliffGray  25 днів тому +3

      Yeah, it’s a bit of a chess game. Every time you get them to bugle, you get some information but they get asymmetrical more information due to their superior senses.
      You can move in their direction and be as silent as possible so you catch any additional unprovoked bugles.
      You can also try to glass them up on the way, use your judgement on where they are likely headed, etc…
      Then there will be times where it just makes sense to provoke them to bugle again… the key is to understand that you give something up every time you call. I’ve been guilty of it too, but most guys get the elk to constantly respond as they move in.

    • @markhowell7142
      @markhowell7142 23 дні тому

      Western Oregon here... good luck glassing anything up in some of this brush. Lol

  • @southernhood5145
    @southernhood5145 26 днів тому +1

    Always the best information

  • @wileyflohr9299
    @wileyflohr9299 12 днів тому +1

    Good stuff

  • @daveshell7251
    @daveshell7251 6 днів тому

    Are you referring to Colorado unit 131 flat tops?

  • @jefffultz3805
    @jefffultz3805 26 днів тому +1

    Appreciate good information.

  • @Chasindinner
    @Chasindinner 23 дні тому +2

    So your sayin’ everything can and will be used against me?

  • @acmontoya69
    @acmontoya69 13 днів тому

    Do you know of any videos or resources for hunting Cows? My son and I have archery cow tags in the upcoming September hunt in Northern Arizona. We are pretty new at this and all information seems to be more "bull" oriented. Thank you!

  • @veryfastride
    @veryfastride 14 днів тому

    Question from a newbie elk hunter, not bowhunting. Southern British Columbia, I am going for Whitetail, but there are elk around. Any chance I can get a shot at one without calling? I had a chance to see some while in my treestand, but they never got close enough. So any chance at all?

  • @jameshurd4815
    @jameshurd4815 26 днів тому +1

    Good stuff!

  • @mictrey2267
    @mictrey2267 26 днів тому +1

    Ive found a bull scouting last week. Can i expecr him to be there in 2 weeks? How should i go about pre rut elk? Limited calling and stalking in?

    • @CliffGray
      @CliffGray  26 днів тому +1

      I have found that bulls right now (post velvet scrapped) will be pretty close to where they are until they get a lot of pressure or rut intensifies 9/10-9/20

  • @moneyandtimefreedom3352
    @moneyandtimefreedom3352 26 днів тому +2

    50+ % not found is a problem, HUGE PROBLEM. We as hunters need to do better, that’s fuel for the anti hunters.

  • @andreisharma
    @andreisharma 22 дні тому

    Please talk about mid October

  • @lynnjohnson5511
    @lynnjohnson5511 23 дні тому +2

    The biggest mistake is buy an atv and destroy the roads!

  • @natetruth6828
    @natetruth6828 26 днів тому +2

    Way to many people have no right hunting with a bow!! 50% recovery is not exceptable.

    • @CliffGray
      @CliffGray  26 днів тому +1

      Well it’s the reality

    • @k9leadstheway531
      @k9leadstheway531 25 днів тому +3

      I'm a new archer and this is what I'm afraid of. Been working really hard for 8 months to prepare, shooting 15-20 arrows a day at different t ranges and angles. I workout a lot to make sure my fitness is squared away, I tested it on my turkey hunt this year. But I wanna do right by the animal and worry I will fall short.

    • @natetruth6828
      @natetruth6828 25 днів тому

      @k9leadstheway531 yeah I'm that way. I probably never will bow hunt elk. I bow hunt deer in wisconsin for 35 years. But I set up so I can't shoot more than 30 yards. Less chance for error.. I would probably be to tempted to shoot outside my comfort zone. I think that's how only 50% are recovered.

    • @natetruth6828
      @natetruth6828 25 днів тому +1

      @CliffGray yes I know. I been bow hunting deer for 35 years in wisconsin. I only set up that I can only shoot no more that 30 yards. Probably never hunt elk with a bow. Because I would probably be to tempted to shoot outside my comfort zone. I think that's why the recovery is so low. People shooting outside their comfort zone. Taking bad shots. I realise it's part of hunting. Hear way to many stories of guys shooting at deer at 60+ yards. Because they poke and hope yet never practice at that range. Most people have no clue how to track big game, is the other problem. I watch a lot of your videos. Would like to see a tracking after the shot video. Brother and I have found many deer with very little blood. Buy knowing how to track them without blood. Thank you so much for all your videos biltong looks delicious gonna try and make some today.

    • @CliffGray
      @CliffGray  25 днів тому +1

      @@k9leadstheway531 Yeah, primary thing is wait for a close shot. Good luck!

  • @user-cl7jw7td5q
    @user-cl7jw7td5q 25 днів тому +1

    👍

  • @BrettVaughnB100
    @BrettVaughnB100 26 днів тому +1

    Hey Cliff have you done anything with "Save the Hunt Colorado"?

    • @FlyingVFan
      @FlyingVFan 26 днів тому +2

      He had a podcast with Dan Gates not too long ago! It was a good one.

    • @CliffGray
      @CliffGray  26 днів тому

      Yes, I have interviewed Dan Gates on here. I have also done some of the events. I am no longer in Colorado so it's a bit hard for me to be much of a hands-on participant.

    • @BrettVaughnB100
      @BrettVaughnB100 26 днів тому +3

      @@CliffGray Ok thanks .. we are trying to raise money .. I have a friend that will match everything up to $10,000.00 Just checking with everyone.. Dan will be on our live this Monday night .. "Interviews, Stories and Tails .. my other channel .. Thank you

  • @bridgerdemers3349
    @bridgerdemers3349 21 день тому +1

    This guy cracks me up. A whole lot of opinions..any real elk hunter knows this guy is full of bs.

  • @4leafoutdoors1
    @4leafoutdoors1 24 дні тому

    How would a 15 year old get into the realm of wilderness guiding and outfitting?

    • @chelseazarate189
      @chelseazarate189 7 днів тому

      Contact several reputable guides and outfitters looking as an intern with opportunity to grow into a paying position

  • @gregorykemp2511
    @gregorykemp2511 25 днів тому +1

    "points at link" and no link come up. lol

    • @CliffGray
      @CliffGray  25 днів тому

      Bwhaha yeah, YT decided I was doing it too much and being annoying 🤦‍♂️

    • @gregorykemp2511
      @gregorykemp2511 25 днів тому

      Love the content. As someone who lives in Colorado myself, it's nice to see a perspective that is relatable to the "areas" where I hunt.

  • @McDanielRanch
    @McDanielRanch 26 днів тому +1

    What sound do oryx make lol. idk very many people that have heard it.
    Comment if u have.

    • @CliffGray
      @CliffGray  26 днів тому

      is it more of a bugle or more of a yodle? :)

    • @McDanielRanch
      @McDanielRanch 26 днів тому

      @@CliffGray lol for sure a yodel.

  • @johnandrosemarywyatt977
    @johnandrosemarywyatt977 26 днів тому +1

    Probably don't want to give the cows info either.....just sayin

  • @Myname77778
    @Myname77778 22 дні тому +3

    The video is good for reinforcement but if these mistakes are a surprise to you then you shouldn’t be elk hunting.

    • @CliffGray
      @CliffGray  22 дні тому

      bwhahaha, well at least it's a decent reminder

    • @Motivatedk9
      @Motivatedk9 8 днів тому

      Well then you shouldn't have had to click on his video....lol

    • @BushToBellyAdventures
      @BushToBellyAdventures 4 дні тому

      Lol these mistakes were all probably ones you've made before with out realizing. Go hunt a different species you've never hunted and tell me all the mistakes before you've done it.. I have never hunted elk in my life so obviously these are things i never would have considered.. Thanks cliff for the content!

  • @user-cs5up9qx8s
    @user-cs5up9qx8s 26 днів тому +3

    This dude my nigga

  • @richarddragseth7953
    @richarddragseth7953 26 днів тому +1

    A quick note, you seem to over use (at). You know where they are(at ). At not needed.

    • @AikensLake701
      @AikensLake701 26 днів тому +3

      Lol, grammar police alert

    • @CliffGray
      @CliffGray  26 днів тому +4

      Bwhaha you always gotta know where they are…….
      …….
      AT

    • @droptine04
      @droptine04 25 днів тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣