Council members reunited after Handforth Zoom argument goes viral

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  • Опубліковано 16 лют 2021
  • Earlier this month an unlikely political hero emerged after the bad-tempered workings of Handforth Parish Council went viral. (Subscribe: bit.ly/C4_News_Subscribe)
    Hundreds of thousands of people viewed footage of no-nonsense official Jackie Weaver muting elected councillors during their bad-tempered planning meeting.
    Tonight, Handforth Parish Council is meeting again and we are at the Cheshire village.
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  • @estelleaeon
    @estelleaeon 2 роки тому +499

    READ THE STANDING ORDERS
    READ THEM AND UNDERSTAND THEM

    • @Weston_James
      @Weston_James 8 місяців тому +5

      these would be some fire metal lyrics

    • @josi4251
      @josi4251 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Weston_James Let's start a band named Handforth Parish Council. I'll dress as Jackie Weaver and kick out group members. Can sing a bit as well.

    • @Weston_James
      @Weston_James 5 місяців тому +1

      @@josi4251 yes lol, lets do it

  • @kingcurry6594
    @kingcurry6594 Рік тому +554

    The problem with most people commenting on here is that they do not understand that Jackie Weaver had absolutely no authority in that meeting.
    She was appointed as an advisor, not Chair or even clerk. Only the Chair can remove someone from a meeting and then only after a vote to exclude the person by members.
    The official inquiry found that actually, Jackie Weaver was the one at fault.

    • @lucas411_
      @lucas411_ Рік тому +35

      Wasn’t the argument made that the chair had specifically stated that the meeting hadn’t started, therefore those rules didn’t apply and technically they were just a bunch of people in a zoom call in which Jackie Weaver was the host and could have removed anyone she liked.

    • @kingcurry6594
      @kingcurry6594 Рік тому +54

      @@lucas411_ Yes, but it also illegal to obstruct a council member from attending a meeting.

    • @lucas411_
      @lucas411_ Рік тому +6

      @@kingcurry6594 Could you argue the fact that she only put them in the waiting room and asked if they wanted to return but they didnt reply, so she didn’t technically obstruct them from attending?
      (Also im not disagreeing with you necessarily, im just genuinely asking questions to better understand the situation and the law)

    • @kingcurry6594
      @kingcurry6594 Рік тому +37

      @@lucas411_ She started the meeting with the Chair in the waiting room as she excluded him before the meeting started - so he was not in the meeting at the start. She then asked members to elect a new Chair - but if the Chair is not there, the vice-Chair takes over. When this was pointed out to her, she chucked the vice-Chair out. She then asked other councillors if they wanted to readmit them. That is not in line with standing orders and therefore illegal.
      Her handling of the whole meeting was completely shocking to anyone with a knowledge of Local Government

    • @lucas411_
      @lucas411_ Рік тому +2

      @@kingcurry6594 interesting, thank you!

  • @liamjohnson1783
    @liamjohnson1783 4 місяці тому +44

    this video makes out like Jackie Weaver wasn't in the wrong?

    • @beenis9842
      @beenis9842 2 місяці тому

      i mean you could tell in that original video that we were seeing the culmination of many previous conflicts between these people. we'll never really know what the whole story is but the probability that these guys just consistently act like retards and we just got her hammer dropping moment is not low at all

  • @Geemilli19
    @Geemilli19 3 роки тому +178

    I think someone forgot Jackie Weaver is now to be known by the name Britney Spears!!

  • @WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1
    @WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 3 роки тому +63

    I want to know when the UN Security Council will get involved?

  • @emil2321
    @emil2321 8 місяців тому +58

    The guitar man who said "quiet rightly" is forever a legend.

  • @MKOFT3N
    @MKOFT3N 8 місяців тому +12

    Jackie is not the hero of our story

  • @therocketboost
    @therocketboost 3 роки тому +162

    Person brought in as tech support oversteps their bounds by booting people out of a council meeting despite having no right to do so, then starts booting the people who called them out for doing so. Don't get me wrong, the whole council acted like plonkers but Weaver was not the person to take that action, subverting the activities of a locally elected body.

    • @jayswain6002
      @jayswain6002 2 роки тому +1

      Thank god she did

    • @leont7956
      @leont7956 Рік тому +9

      most of the council were ok, it was just the chairman hadn't been doing his job properly and aled who were plonkers

    • @sunyue5076
      @sunyue5076 Рік тому +22

      Before you throw in your comment, read them and understand them!

    • @PinkDiamond7777777
      @PinkDiamond7777777 7 місяців тому

      ​@@sunyue5076 😂

  • @pepperboys9572
    @pepperboys9572 3 роки тому +121

    Lady at 02:47 - defending "Mr Burkhill". As a resident of Handforth for around 18 years, I can't remember ONE positive thing he has done. Since his election as Mayor and then changing the rules so that he could remain as Councillor for Handforth, he has done nothing but Object to motions put forward for the people of Handforth. He was also instrumental in REDUCING the maximum grant amount of the council from 1000 to 500. This is applied for by local groups that need funding for local projects. (PS the Standing Orders still say 1000).
    I guess the self disqualification clock has now started for both Mr Burkhill and Mr Brewerton, as neither officially offered apologies for this meeting, with Mr Tolver making an excuse for Mr Burkhill not attending, not actually reading a formal notice of apologies.
    Cheshire East Council also showed their ineffectiveness today, when the motion of No Confidence was deferred to the Standards Committee, with no date being set for that meeting.

    • @worldisfucked
      @worldisfucked 2 роки тому +4

      tbh don’t think she had a clue and just saw the camera n wanted to get on TV

    • @BossySwan
      @BossySwan 2 роки тому +2

      Cheshire East and the environs

    • @videogamenostalgia
      @videogamenostalgia Рік тому +3

      Plus he has very sinister eyebrows, which alone should disqualify him from any sort of leadership position.

    • @weirdloverwilde
      @weirdloverwilde 2 місяці тому

      Woah the tea has been spilled ☕️

  • @matthewlee8725
    @matthewlee8725 6 місяців тому +11

    I loved the part where the council members were reunited.

  • @christopherthorkon3997
    @christopherthorkon3997 2 місяці тому +3

    Why does this strange video make Jackie Weaver a saint? She had no authority to throw people out of the meeting.

  • @kazuhirala
    @kazuhirala 2 роки тому +17

    That’s strange I thought her name was Britney Spears

  • @cathalk3903
    @cathalk3903 8 місяців тому +29

    "You have no authority here Jackie Weaver." Jackie: "lol kick button go brrr"

    • @RobK32
      @RobK32 5 місяців тому +1

      Go what?

    • @WitchKing-Of-Angmar
      @WitchKing-Of-Angmar 10 днів тому

      ​@@RobK32 I know a ship called a gobrr, but it's also not the 14th century anymore so I don't think they are referencing that.

    • @WitchKing-Of-Angmar
      @WitchKing-Of-Angmar 10 днів тому

      ​@@RobK32 I know a ship called a gobrr, but it's also not the 14th century anymore so I don't think they are referencing that.

  • @MJ18888
    @MJ18888 3 роки тому +41

    Weaver Fever!

    • @perrywilliams4593
      @perrywilliams4593 3 роки тому +3

      👍🏾 Someone liked your comment: Weaver fever!

  • @eddouglas
    @eddouglas 3 роки тому +26

    Yeah but the point is did she actually have the right to eject people from a meeting because if not, shes an unelected administrator that is silencing elected members of a local community...how tf is she a hero, shes a fascist isnt it?

    • @jrburger95
      @jrburger95 2 роки тому +8

      Yeah she had no authority to do that, she's a villian.

    • @porridge6118
      @porridge6118 2 роки тому

      @@jrburger95 W comment

  • @halfbakedproductions7887
    @halfbakedproductions7887 9 місяців тому +4

    Barry Burkhill resigned, as did Brian Tolver and Aled Brewerton.
    Barry Burkhill sadly passed away from cancer in November 2022.

    • @GittingGud1
      @GittingGud1 6 місяців тому +3

      He received his standing orders from God. Rest in peace Barry Burkhill.

    • @everythinggeekdotcom
      @everythinggeekdotcom 4 місяці тому +1

      Aled was the real goat

    • @simi55mega
      @simi55mega 3 місяці тому +1

      Rip😢

  • @respknloyal4992
    @respknloyal4992 3 роки тому +15

    First thing that comes to my mind is that ZOOM is growing rapidly

  • @MightySheep
    @MightySheep 5 місяців тому +23

    How has channel 4 managed to come to the exact opposite conclusion about this series events as literally everyone else? Do you not understand that she is just some random woman who got the tiniest bit of power (control over a zoom call) and it went straight to her head...

  • @mckernan603
    @mckernan603 3 роки тому +10

    John Smith is my hero

  • @AGSBraintoast
    @AGSBraintoast 2 роки тому +125

    She was in the wrong about some things tho, the STANDING ORDERS specify that councillors cannot be ejected from a meeting unless there is a majority vote. Jackie Weaver is an average holier than thou, self righteous lady who soaks in her administrative position, she might as well be a despotic community moderator.

    • @snottylottie
      @snottylottie Рік тому +10

      lool who cares she's hilarious get over it

    • @ninaj6051
      @ninaj6051 Рік тому +9

      There was news on the way the investigations turned out. They affirmed what you wrote, but were sympathetic toward her and that her reaction was understandable.

    • @kingcurry6594
      @kingcurry6594 Рік тому +3

      And, if the Chair is not present, the vice-Chair automatically takes over.

    • @kingcurry6594
      @kingcurry6594 Рік тому +10

      @@snottylottie I care, because I am Chair of a parish council and it is vital that rules are followed or else illegal decisions are made.

    • @danjames4086
      @danjames4086 Рік тому +5

      ​​@@kingcurry6594
      Unless of course he is posessed by the spirit of Gollum.mid meeting, then you have a problem.

  • @Dbdbe1
    @Dbdbe1 4 місяці тому +2

    All those criticising her never comment on the background to this meeting, admit the abysmal behaviour of Tolver, Brewerton, and Burkhill, still less say what they would have done to ameliorate the situation.

  • @davidbrown5628
    @davidbrown5628 3 роки тому

    Haha 'blink and you miss it' 😅

  • @sofnaji
    @sofnaji 7 місяців тому +1

    Liz Wardlow sounds like a scripted robot giving her statement

  • @BossySwan
    @BossySwan 2 роки тому +2

    Channel 4 has the authority

  • @antonalbo
    @antonalbo 26 днів тому

    How does an admin get to decide who gets to participate in a Council meeting - I agree with the Councillors who were saying she had no authority to decide who would get to discuss Council business...

  • @trishadennis5440
    @trishadennis5440 2 роки тому +26

    Ha now its official that she was in the wrong.......

    • @toxendon
      @toxendon Рік тому +1

      How?

    • @Radocruz
      @Radocruz 8 місяців тому +1

      How so?

    • @mayzerify5525
      @mayzerify5525 3 місяці тому

      @@Radocruz Jackie Weaver had absolutely no authority in that meeting.
      She was appointed as an advisor, not Chair or even clerk. Only the Chair can remove someone from a meeting and then only after a vote to exclude the person by members.
      The official inquiry found that actually, Jackie Weaver was the one at fault.

    • @simi55mega
      @simi55mega 3 місяці тому

      She was based asf

  • @BOUND-573
    @BOUND-573 4 місяці тому +1

    I’m confused how she’s a hero

  • @TheEternalOuroboros
    @TheEternalOuroboros 10 місяців тому

    "Sterling work" 🤣

  • @Drquibble
    @Drquibble 3 роки тому +21

    Handforth Council Should name a road after her called Weaver Way

    • @johnvonhorn2942
      @johnvonhorn2942 2 роки тому +1

      Should we tread such a path we might be led into temptation. I'd love to willy Jackie Weaver.

  • @completelystupid_10
    @completelystupid_10 8 місяців тому +1

    I mean realistically with that tie he was always gonna go on strictly

  • @savannahrosedigitalillustr1946
    @savannahrosedigitalillustr1946 3 роки тому +5

    hahaha, my god lloyd webber must be bored to join in the meming of jackie weaver.

  • @WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1
    @WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 3 роки тому +12

    In this age of equality and diversity I don't see what being a woman has got to do with it?

  • @db9631
    @db9631 9 місяців тому

    Pretty sure a council meeting like this pre-empted the invasion of Poland.

  • @johnvaleanbaily246
    @johnvaleanbaily246 3 роки тому +12

    So, what right did Jackie Weaver have to evict. If she's not the chair how does that work... or is this just a slow news week...

  • @Drquibble
    @Drquibble 3 роки тому +15

    Jackie Weaver has a westie she's even more fantastic than I thought

  • @alelectric2767
    @alelectric2767 3 роки тому +2

    Something to do about nothing.

  • @TracyLynnMcIntosh
    @TracyLynnMcIntosh 4 місяці тому

    I wouldn’t glorify their behaviour
    They are all embarrassing

  • @digitalmediafan
    @digitalmediafan 3 роки тому +5

    She reminds me of Rosemary Shrager

  • @maxworth4687
    @maxworth4687 3 роки тому +47

    So it's ok that she violated procedure because she was calm? What empty and vacuous respectability politics.

    • @LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN
      @LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN 3 роки тому +11

      its because she serves the suppression of free speech and the nwo agenda

    • @TheAnonyy
      @TheAnonyy 3 роки тому +12

      Exactly she was there to clerk the meeting which is a silent job document actions at thr meeting they have no powers, she should have been ejected as she has no authority to so anything and kept interrupting the chairman which is ill-mannered of her.

    • @barnabas5688
      @barnabas5688 3 роки тому +12

      Is that you councillor burkhill?!!

    • @TheAnonyy
      @TheAnonyy 3 роки тому +1

      @@barnabas5688 maybe you are Burkhill

    • @porridge6118
      @porridge6118 2 роки тому

      W

  • @urdarlingalien
    @urdarlingalien 8 місяців тому +14

    Jackie Weaver may have had zero authority there but she slayed.

  • @ernesthimself
    @ernesthimself Місяць тому

    Bunch of busy bodies.

  • @bhattasourish2
    @bhattasourish2 7 місяців тому +27

    jackie is good at playing the "i am a woman" card

  • @PinkDiamond7777777
    @PinkDiamond7777777 7 місяців тому +1

    Carrie Hope Fletcher's involved? 😀

  • @lloyddyer1829
    @lloyddyer1829 3 роки тому +21

    Wow... I thought she was the one showing bullying, dictatorship-like behaviour and dealt with the situation terribly, but you never know the whole story...

    • @porridge6118
      @porridge6118 2 роки тому +3

      L

    • @danjames4086
      @danjames4086 Рік тому +1

      I think the wider story is that she was asked to attend by some of the more moderate members, due to poor behaviour of a select few of these people.

    • @Dbdbe1
      @Dbdbe1 4 місяці тому

      Yes the whole story was the abysmal behaviour of Tolver, Brewerton, and Burkhill. Do more research next time

  • @LordUzaki
    @LordUzaki 6 місяців тому +10

    Tech Support for elderly town council goes on a power trip, takes control of a council meeting, and boots the chairman and other council members as she pleases.
    The uninformed public somehow supports this. The rest of the world laughs at the town.

    • @hillehai
      @hillehai 2 місяці тому +1

      But women can do no wrong. Didn't you get the memo?

  • @RB98r
    @RB98r 8 місяців тому

    jackie needs to go. end of.

  • @Dream_Weapon
    @Dream_Weapon 3 роки тому +35

    Jackie is the baddie.
    Or was I the only one that thought that?

    • @LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN
      @LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN 3 роки тому +14

      no anyone with a reasonable mind would

    • @xtraspecialmango
      @xtraspecialmango 3 роки тому

      You're a Tory, ain't you!? 😂

    • @Dream_Weapon
      @Dream_Weapon 3 роки тому +3

      @@xtraspecialmango You're jokin' right?

    • @kimif1driver7
      @kimif1driver7 2 роки тому +8

      Jackie did not read the standing orders. She did not read them and understand them! She was the baddie all along. She couldn't kick out councillors without a majority vote yet she still did which is illegal under Standing Order 10. She most certainly was the baddie and Aled Brewerton and Aled Senior were the goodies.

    • @Dbdbe1
      @Dbdbe1 4 місяці тому

      @@kimif1driver7so you’re ignoring their appalling previous behaviour and his lies about the high court. Fool

  • @franciscozurbaran7998
    @franciscozurbaran7998 3 роки тому +9

    No to vaccine passports, disgraceful. Sign the parliament petition.

  • @alzon5712
    @alzon5712 2 роки тому +24

    Why did jakie keep interupting the chair though whilst he was trying to talk, she acted as an antagonist

  • @Death-999
    @Death-999 8 місяців тому +7

    The video was like when a karen discord mod thinks they have power.

  • @shizukagozen777
    @shizukagozen777 9 місяців тому +4

    Why is everyone praising Jackie the little dictator ? People are nuts...

  • @Alex__Al
    @Alex__Al 3 роки тому +3

    Another national hero created by media.

  • @FTCLAS
    @FTCLAS 3 місяці тому +1

    JW should be forced to resign

  • @chrisprout8115
    @chrisprout8115 3 роки тому +10

    This woman is crazy.

  • @hillehai
    @hillehai 2 місяці тому +1

    Jackie seems like a typical narcissistic Karen, not gonna lie.

  • @onetwothreefourfive12345
    @onetwothreefourfive12345 Місяць тому +1

    Jackie Weaver was incompetent. Deal with it.

  • @JacquesvanWyk
    @JacquesvanWyk 6 місяців тому +4

    If you see news making the woman the victim you know she has been wrong lol.

  • @fatrat2017
    @fatrat2017 2 роки тому +13

    all hail queen jackie!!!

  • @tomr5785
    @tomr5785 3 роки тому +9

    In an unlikely coincidence, news has emerged that Cllr Liz Wardlow and Empress-of-the-purple-rinse Jackie Weaver both share the middle name Karen. True story.

  • @Winterfellen
    @Winterfellen 8 місяців тому +1

    Only the media or women could watch this and think Jackie was in the right. It was found she had no right to remove others.

  • @louiseconroy9140
    @louiseconroy9140 3 роки тому +7

    Jackie is great....😁

  • @Chris-kv4vl
    @Chris-kv4vl 9 місяців тому +6

    Weaver didn't overstep at all. If the Chairman officiates meetings and said this wasn't an official council meeting then it's just a Zoom call and therefore Weaver can do what she likes.

    • @21kiwi24
      @21kiwi24 9 місяців тому +7

      But then it started. Don't defend her.

    • @weirdloverwilde
      @weirdloverwilde 2 місяці тому

      @@21kiwi24 TEAM JACKIE (WEAVER)

  • @bestintentions6089
    @bestintentions6089 3 роки тому +10

    Ah yes menopausal women

  • @israeldiegoriveragenius2th164
    @israeldiegoriveragenius2th164 3 роки тому +7

    No to mandatory or coerced vaccines. Sign the no vaccine passport parliament petition

    • @hpvspeedmachine4183
      @hpvspeedmachine4183 3 роки тому +14

      I sign you to sod off

    • @Bruceboot
      @Bruceboot 3 роки тому +8

      Shut up

    • @LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN
      @LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN 3 роки тому +2

      thanks youre right. for those who want to take them and pressure others, i hope their "vaccines" work on them soon so we can be put out of our misery having to deal with them, its their kids i feel sorry for

    • @LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN
      @LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN 3 роки тому +3

      @GlassHalfEmptyplease get your vaccine and the boost ASAP

    • @israeldiegoriveragenius2th164
      @israeldiegoriveragenius2th164 3 роки тому

      @Gary S Lets see about that