Osaka dialect おおさかべん Part 1 (with Subtitles)
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I was born in Tokyo, but my family is from Osaka. Growing up in the US, I speak Japanese haltingly. However, all I know is Osaka-ben. I was in Washington DC and speaking Japanese to a gal from Okinawa and she picked up on the dialect right away. She thought it was funny. :-)
Damn I always wanted a friend who knows Osaka Ben xO im Soo into the dialect xD!
Osakan dialect always seemed funny to me lol
I'd like to learn the osaka accent
I recently watched 君の名は several times, where characters from 糸守町 speak a special dialect, for example, や in place of だ as copula. But there are still a lot of dialectal lines that are secret code to a Japanese learner like me. I learned that the dialect used in this movie is fictional but is a mixture of real dialects, say, 岐阜弁 and 関西弁. This makes sense, as there are many dialectal lines that can be explained by this video. For example, ん expressing 'not' is attested in several scenes. When みつは is passing by while her father is giving an election speech, he stops to shout at her '胸張って歩かんか'. When さやか asks her 'don't you remember (you were like crazy yesterday)' on the campus, the line goes '覚えとらんの'; and when さやか brings up the coming ceremony, みつは replies '言わんといて'. There are also many other examples of Kansai dialectal lines, like よつは asks her sister '何しとるの' instead of '...てるの' while みつは (actually たき) is rubbing her breast; よつは asks みつは (actually たき) '何で制服着とんの' instead of '...着てるの' when they are going to 御神体; よつは asks みつは (actually たき) 'ちょっと何言っとんの' instead of '...言ってるの' when みつは (actually たき) is asking her to leave the town with their grandma. I'd just like to say thank you to Miku sensei, your videos, not only this one, let me decipher a lot of the lines in this movie, and my Japanese improved a lot after watching 君の名は and your videos. Learning Japanese by watching movies you like is really a good way. It would be super fantastic if you could make videos teaching Japanese and introducing Kansai dialect with famous movies like 君の名は. Anyways, thank you so much and keep up the good work.
I learned Japanese via anime 2 decades ago. It's so nice to see that kids nowadays are still doing that. In fact it's so much easier with everything available online right now, including fan subbed series!
Grammatical point: Kansaiben uses the verb「おる」in place of Standard「いる」so「いない」becomes「おらん」.
The example you presented「着とんの」is Standard Japanese「着ているの」"wearing" with a「の」at the end for emphatic questioning, which contracts to「着てるの」in Standard. However in Kansaiben,「着ておるの」contracts to「着とるの」and in rapid speech further slurs into「着とんの」 which is the same for most English accents. Most people do not enunciate "What. Are. You. Wearing?" like a robot. In natural speech it's contracted into: "What're you wearing?" "What're ya wearin'?" "Whaddya wearin'?'"
For the negative, "not remembering" (although in English it's more natural to say: "don't remember" ---「覚えとらんの」is contracted from「覚えておらんの」which in Standard Japanese is「覚えていないの」/「覚えてないの」。
Ganbatte kudasai ne!
@@Jumpoable なるほど。I didn't know ...とる comes from ...ておる。お返事ありがとうございます
Honestly, the Kansai-ben sounds so nice and I love it! When I get better at Japanese, I'll definitely practice it more!
この動画で日本語で話してくれてありがとうございます。多くの日本語講座は英語で行われて本当に舐められるような気分になる。日本語ができる人がいる前提で動画を作ってくれるあなたたちを感謝します！^_^
私はフランス人ですが、日本人の友人と行ったとき、みんな同じ意見でした。本場レバノンのファラフェルの方が美味しい。
6:14 sounds similar to the intonation of Busan dialect of Korean~ Well Busan is so close to Japan and was controlled by the Japanese. As far as I remember the dialect has received the most Japanese influence in all of Korean dialects 🤔
I was thinking the same thing, but I don't know who influenced who, I don't have enough knowledge on this subject.
AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT WHY I LIKED THESE SPECIFIC DILACETS ITS ALL FALLING INTO PLACE-
No wonder when I see idols speaking in Busan satoori they sound like they're speaking in Japanese lol
I always love it when I hear Kansai dialect They feel so friendly and bubbly (altho a bit agressive lol)
I lived in Hyogo for 3 years as an exchange student and didn't realize I learned Osaka-ben until I went to Tokyo for a class trip and someone pointed it out 😅 I've been re-learning Japanese and it's been so confusing learning non-Kansai dialect. These videos have helped me refresh my brain
I live in Kyoto and I need part 2! I need to understand what my landlady is talking about 😂
わざわざたっぷりの大坂弁のフレーズをの何から何まで教えくれて感謝しております。おまけに、Learn Japanese PodからAlexを招待していただきよっかたですね。相変わらず彼はとてもおもしれー人だけでなく笑いのツボもあるよ。彼が例文をあげる時、上には理解しやすく、本番に効果的です。改めて言うことにする、Learn Japanese Podを調べてくれて頼むね。この役にたつ動画を見そびれんといて。
超懐かしい!
僕も関西で留学したことがあるけどもう関西弁が出てこない!
ホンマにこのビデオ見て嬉しくなった!
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! IT'S SO HARD FINDING VIDEOS ON KANSAI
I’ve been listening to Alex’s podcast for a a few months now. Never seen him before but somehow I knew it was him before I heard him talk lol
I could watch this for hours. I love dialects and regional differences. 関西弁教えてくれてありがとう。
My girlfriend speaks a lot of 関西弁 and I accidentally use it sometimes. Apparently even the way I say ありがとう sounds Kansai 🤷♂️
bruh wtf same lmao、ありがとうってさ、標準語と関西弁のイントネーションというか高低アクセントちゃうな。関西弁やと、最後に上がるよな ありが ^とう みたいなw説明しにくいけどw
みく先生、本当に、おもしろいく動画を作りました。教えてくれてどもありがとう！
maybe you could turn this into series? 🥺
I’ll second this vote 🙋🏻♀️
Yes please!
I'll fourth this vote
sugoi
I just hundred twenty third this
I LOVE ALEX!!! I've learned a lot from him back in 2017 with his audios. Please invite him more and encourage him to create more material for us! :D
I love you too btw!
osakaben is so beautiful thank you for this video! very interesting!
公園にが欲しい！！二人ともはめちゃあ面白い！！！！すげ学んでいる！本当にありがとうね🙌🙌🙌💜
止まれんな！Please make more of these!! 今もうゆっくりダウンタウンの番組を分かります！ありがとう！
Ain’t ever been this early to a video 😂
I actually needed this video!
Bruh I wanted to learn Kansai Dialect because my father told me that my ancestors were probably from Osaka and then this video came up what
Google is listening
Lucky to be you 😔✊
Ah I see a fellow Kpopper :)
Miku! Love it. I live in Kyoto and my husband is from Osaka so my Japanese is so Kansai! Haha. Actually the other day I saw you in Ichijoji near the station. I was drinking coffee at my husbands cafe with a few other foreigners and you pointed over. I wanted to go and say hey but I was kind of shy and I didn’t want to bother you.
Is it okay if I see you again to say hey? Now you’re living in Kyoto maybe I will see you more.
Of course!!! Come say hi and I will hug you♡ hehe
面白いですね。来年に京都大学でべんきょうするかもしれませんだから。。。関西弁をべんきょうしましょう！^＿^
すみません。私の日本語はよくないです。
I love this video!! I’ve always liked Osaka-Ben since I first started learning so hearing this is defintiely helpful and a treat! ありがとうこざいます！ミクせんせい
ほんとにおもしれーみくせんせい...very helpful. Starting to love かんさいべん
Thank you so much Miku!!! I really love this topic!!! I really wanted to study some Kansai-ben words!! I`m very grateful to you~ Looking forward to the part 2! OOKINI!😁👍
Who could give a dislike to this video?? It was a Great , funny and usefull one, especially that I live in nara and I've contact with people from Osaka hehe wainting a second part ( by the way I am Spanish native speaker so sorry for the English hehe)
Perhaps people who are tired of the fake identity and plagiarism. Idk... Just maybe...
Anand Nainar
Why fake identity?
When I went to Osaka I had my first real takoyaki and time just stop! It was so good I had to sit down and think about life! Also Osaka people are so beautiful and so carefree and respectful! I love them!! All of my friends are from Osaka so now I just talk Japanese in Kansai ben. Lol Also I found out Osaka people don't like people from Tokyo and vice versa lol
Yesss! Dogen is such a big help with learning Japanese (just as you are) and his videos are amazing! Very nice to hear you speak of him!
いつもいいレッスンしてくれてありがとうございます！
Can’t wait to watch another part of Osaka ben🙌🏻 please make it more Miku sensei
OMG!! A few minutes into this video I realized this is Alex from "Learn Japanese Pod"! Last year I was looking for good Japanese language podcasts to listen to while cycling and found them on Spotify. And funny enough I think this video popped up because I follow Dogen, Japanese Ammo with Misa, and Shunchan who's from Osaka. Actually heard "せやなせやな
" in a video where Shun was talking to his dad 😆 I thought it was the coolest phrase!
I really enjoyed this Kansai video and hope to re-circle back once I have a better grasp of things! アレックスさん、ミクさん、ありがとうございました 🙏
I was starting to grow more and more interested in Kansai Dialect, and this video just pops up like an answer to my prayers. wow :D
If anyone's interested in learning Kansai Ben even more, check out *Organic Japanese with Cure Dolly* .
She has some lessons on Kansai ben over on her channel and they're quite educational. So check her out.
(Btw I'm not sponsored by her or anything, I just really stand by her content and so am sharing it with you guys)
おもしろいなぁ関西弁
でも話せなくても
聞いたら意味が解るところが嬉しい
Miku sensei!!!! ❤️❤️❤️ your headress is cute!!!!
Thank you for doing this video. I really appreciate it. I always wanted to learn Kansai ben beacuse I'll going to live in 大阪. Keep doing this kind of video, it's very helpful, お願いします~!! ❤️❤️
I often listen to LearnJapanesePod with Alex and I watch Miku. Both of these guys have helped me alot! To have both at the same time is すごい!!🦖🌊
Oh I remember "Alex and Beb" Japanese pod back in the day!! 懐かしい！まだ日本語を勉強してますよ。
何でやねん！笑笑。ビデオ作ってくれてありがとうございました。
Thank you for the wonderful video, Miku and Alex sensei.
Always ready for some Osaka-ben! Where I lived, where the humour is at and where the best atmosphere is :D
このビデオめちゃ好きやねん〜
That was really funny and educational. Although I found that in some parts the audio was too low (outro for example). There are amazing free softwares that can "normalize" (technical term) the audio and make the quality a lot better. Thank you for the video Miku sensei! Also Alex sensei!
I dont know why, but this video has helped me learn more Japanese than many other videos. Probably just because I Love Osaka and cant wait to go back there, but man this was helpful. Thank you! :)
This is so fascinating usually sentences gets shorter when we speak in dialect in my country but in Osaka it gets longer often particularly for females . just wow
Miku sensei hello! Haha I enjoyed this so much, I want to travel to Osaka so this is perfect timing. Can't wait for part 2 🖤
I learned so much Miku sensei. Thank you so much.
What a perfect collaboration with miku and alex! Cause i love guys. It was helpful video. Thanks
I love the way you teach Japanese, you really deserve more subcribers.
🤗😍😉✌️🇯🇵 Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽
Sensei.. plz do a video with dogen .. it will be so much fun!!
I don't speak japanese at all but I enjoy watching your videos. This wouldn't have been the take away for most people, but today I learned that 波 "nami" = wave (6:23). I know about words like "tsunami" but never made that connection. Thanks real Japanese family!
Yay! So glad you made this video 🙆♀️
I'm so happy you made this video ❤️
Also, yes please guys what Dogen he really is a genius
I have to subscribe. :) Thanks for a fun video.
Just the video that I need!!! I love you MIKU!!!!
Finally!! KANSAI BEN!!
たこ焼き食べたくなってしまいました😋🍴💕
I hope to see more videos and explanations in partial (or better yet, full) japanese!
Alex san was a great guest! Interesting video!!!
It's good to have the opportunity to learn Osaka-ben!
Thank you for this! This helped me understand jokes in the Yakuza video games!
I love this 😂! I’ve always wanted to learn Kansai Dialect!
I love the different accents. My grandma was born in 川崎市 so of course she speaks “standard Japanese” so when she speaks it’s a bit easier for me to understand. So I think for that reason and the fact everyone learns standard Japanese. I find them really interesting
PLEASE make THIS into A SERIES !!
Please more videos about Kansai ben! Thank you sensei!
I think that regional dialects are fascinating. I recently started to discover 広島弁. It's really tricky (ぶちいたしーのう!
Very cool! Lots of this dialect is also heard in anime. I look forward to part 2 😁
Feels gr8 to learn Kansai dialect too😁. But I think it was too much to digest in only one video
Hey isn't that Alex from Learn Japanese Pod? I recognized the voice I was just listening to his podcasts
Thank you sensei for this 😊
Very interesting, thanks for the interesting comparison and for the subs as well!
I've been re-watching "Lovely Complex," and re-reading the manga in Japanese this time, and I've definitely picked up on a few things! The "hen" and "n" were pretty obvious from context, as was "akan." And the subtitles straight-up commented on "nandeyanen." Also "seena," (which, I've also seen "nantokasee" -- "do something about it!" -- which really threw me at first). "Toite" was kind of confusing for me, though, so thanks for clearing that up! Is it a contraction of "-teoku," similar to something like, "ittokukedo?" Anyway, definitely recommend the series to anyone interested in picking up some Osaka-ben! Also just generally -- it's amazing all-around.
Super interresting video ! plz more !! :)
Ahh... Kansai ben, tha dialect of Ayumu Kasuga and Joji
I enjoyed watching. More videos pls.
「行かなあかんは行かなきゃ」 「あかんはいけない」「なくてもいいはんでもいい」
I don't know how to speak Japanese, but I searched Osaka dialect for no reason.
Lmao same
LOL I never thought Miku Sensei was EVER trying to hide her Kansai style intonation, I mean, her Osaka accent in Standard Japanese is pretty thick, & it's immediately noticeable that she's from Osaka or some other city in Kansai.
Nothing wrong with that, it's it's just like learning English from an American from Texas or the South with a stronger Texan or Southern accent.
I have Kansai friends from Kyoto & Osaka who can speak with unclockable Standard Japanese (Tokyo style) intonation, & also Osaka friends who can't seem to code-switch even if they've left Kansai (like Miku Sensei) LOL.
Osaka is a bit different, as it's the 2nd largest city in Japan & an economic & cultural powerhouse, so the natives are really proud of their accent & heritage. Most won't bother to mask their accent even when outside of Osaka, whereas people from smaller Kansai cities (like in Kobe, Wakayama or even Kyoto) would switch to perfect Standard Japanese intonation outside of Kansai, in case they'll be judged as a hick from some small village.
Funny anecdote. When majoring in Japanese in university, I met my friend Tammy from Atlanta, who went to Osaka for an exchange program during high school, so she picked up Osakan intonation & couldn't for the life of her switch to Standard Japanese intonation (our university program was BIG on spoken Japanese), to the concern of all the sensei & herself during oral examinations. Imagine a redhead speaking Japanese with Kansai intonation & the soft lilt of a Southern belle. LOL.
ミク先生は本当に可愛い先生ですね
Thank you for the video!! I’ve been wanting to learn Kansai dialect because a book that I’m currently reading uses it. If possible, could you make a listening video in Kansai dialect so that we could hear it in context?
wish there will be more about osaka or kansai dialect in the next video
Osaka ben sound like a roller coaster lol. But sound really nice!
Why don't you please start a podcast on Spotify ? It would be awesome to listen to your lessons while commuting :)
If you ever do more series, please do one on 佐賀弁!
I lovee this series
Alex sensei!!!
Thank you for this lesson. Do you recommend any resources online to Osaka dialect?
あ、大阪弁がすごく面白くて美しくないですか？関東や東京弁で続き話すつもりだけど、慣れれば慣れるほど、大阪弁の表現も連数して使い始めるつもりだって思います～
僕の大学で関西から来た留学生が多くて、初めて生で聞いた日本語が関西弁で、日本に来てから大阪に住んだことしかなくて、大阪から出たこともあまりなくて、彼女の出身が大阪なので、僕も結局関西弁になりました。東京に行って関西弁を抑えようとしても無理でした。
めっちゃわかるww
そして語尾に、知らんけどをいつも付けるw
hi miku ;)
絶対一番日本語のチャネル!
Dear Miku sensei, could you also do a brief one for Kanazawa (or the region) if possible? I found that I couldn't understand their Japanese at all...
This is awesome, I'm weird I want to be able to speak like a yakuza lol
みくさんわかわいい！！
Just for curiosity, if you want to learn a certain japanese dialect, should you learn the "standard" japanese first and then the dialect ? Learning the dialect first is probably much harder
Same with arabic, always go with the standard one first.
It's not really harder, just less practical. But I once knew a Japanese exchange teacher who'd had an American English teacher in Japan, who could only understand and speak Osaka-ben.
Standard is more important
So I will often add な to things like
かっこいな but would people in Osaka take that as it’s” not “ because if my な
I love this video. I did a summer internship in Kyoto last year and it was my first time in the country, so Kansai-ben feels kind of special whenever I hear it!
あぁ、そうなんや！
I really want to go to Osaka