Cool. I live 10 miles from the factory and proudly own a set of Coax speakers. You are correct about the amplifier: Having more powerful electronics will bring the Piega's to life. I highly recommend reviewing the Piega MLS-3. They are not from this world...
Really would wish them to make a grill for the mid/tweeter only as those drivers are super sensitive at cost a LOT to replace(they need the complete speaker to switch mid/tweeter drivers). And that's because they look like church speakers with the grill on.
Very thorough and spot on description of the Piega Coax 511 speakers. I've got the Piega Coax 511 paired with a Marantz PM-10 amplifier and Marantz SA-10 SACD-player/DAC. These Piega beauties simply show me everything, good or bad, in a recording. They are utterly and ruthlessly revealing. Not party speakers, obviously, but very engaging and insightful transducers. In my experience, the Piega Coax 511's soundstage, image precision and bass response improves vastly once the speaker is mounted onto IsoAcoustics Gaia II feet instead of the supplied Piega spikes or feet. Also, that unique Piega coaxial driver needs at least 250 hours of "burn in" to release all of its potential. I hope your review samples were well warmed up prior to this review, Terry.
Hello, I wanted to ask since you own them, do these speakers need ample space to breath. I want to place them in a very tight corner in my living room and not sure how that would affect the sound since they are a sealed enclosure design. Also, are you happy with them? Thanks!
@@DDSRacer01 Hello, Yes, I am very satisfied with my PIEGA Coax 511 speakers. They sound divine when set up properly and when matched with the right equipment! However, I do think it requires quite a bit of trial & error to set them up optimally. In order to get them to show you the most three-dimensional sound-image possible you really need to let them breathe. Even if they don't have a back-firing bassreflex port they will still need space to the rear and to the sides to deliver the most natural and balanced bass response. Placing them less than 25 inches from any corner the bass response will be very exxagerated. Also, I'd say that the PIEGA Coax 511 speakers should be positioned no less than 25 inches from the rear wall (measured to the front of each speaker). Placing the speakers even closer to the rear wall will probably make the stereo image less 3D, less precise. NB! Even though these babies are quite small-ish compared to many other 3-way floorstanders they still have a comparaply very capaple bass output. Try them out in a shop and you will be so surprised with their bass delivery! They will give you extremely well controlled, fast and accurate bass. The amount of bass that they can produce almost seems to contravene the laws of physics - the PIEGA Coax 511 speakers actually sound much bigger than they look since they have such a large membrane cross section area in the lower registers. Most important note: Always pair these speakers with a high quality amplifier (the more watts, the more these speakers will shine), high quality speaker cables (preferably copper - NOT silver plated copper) and high quality interconnect cables. In my experince the PIEGA Coax 511 speakers sound far better bi-wired than single-wired. By the way...I'm presently using Albedo Metamorphosis silver interconnects and Inakustik Referenz LS-4004 Air speaker cables as well as Tellurium Q Statement interconnects and Tellurium Q Statement speaker cables in a double barrel shotgun setup (= two runs of speaker cables per speaker).
You put a huge amount of effort into these reviews Tel. I just enjoy every moment. Love the detail, the humour and the honesty. Really, really good. I've crossed everything I've got that you keep going with this ace channel.
I have these speakers in my Focus for the last 3 weeks. Looking forward to watch your Clip this afternoon. Best Topic. :) coax ribbon Greetings from Germany
These speakers fascinate me, esp the coax ribbon mid/tweeter. Unfortunately I really don't care for them aesthetically, don't care for the aluminum construction.
I pretty much had the same prejudice prior to demo'ing them at my local hifi-shop. Actually the aluminium cabinets don't look the slightest metallic or cold once you "meet" them. In high gloss white or high gloss black lacquer they are the most delicately looking, feminine shaped speakers. And they feel kind of soft and organic as well. Also, you can combine a white or silver pair of speakers with black front covers to make them look more like organ pipes if you fancy. They are quite wife-appealing and discrete appearing speakers compaired to many other "guys only"-speakers out there that often seem to resemble props from a Star Wars-film.
Nice honest review. 3 Epic Moments. 1st your GOAT KEF system with the Canor amps and etc.🐐 2nd the Peppa Pig Raisin sound stage visual demo. 3rd the rose tribute to the Luxman amplifier. 🌹 We need more Peppa Pig demos🐷
Great review. I am looking at the Sonus Faber Olympica Nova V and the Monitor Audio PL 300 ii. Both gorgeous and in the same price range. Do you have any insight into a comparison between their sound quality? Thank you mate!
Terry, do yourself a big favour sometime: do try out a pair of Piega Coax 711. The bass power from those babies will shake the bedrock under your house. They are in a completely different league. Those four 22cm/8" woofers can move a serious amount of air. Play them loudly and you'll need to rebuild the masonry of your house afterwards. I mean, they can start an earthquake even though they are very linear all the way through the frequency range. Massive sound pressure and unparalleled dynamics combined with even more detailed sound than that of the Coax 511.
I agree, the bigger models like mine piega classic 60.2,s can produce bass that will make you go jump up in the air! And it still sounds very coherent and refined, with all kinds of music! The search is over.
For me the looks of a speaker are just as important as the sound and I much prefer the looks of the KEF reference 3 to these. I'm a huge fan of the good old wood finish so these wouldn't get a look in for me as I feel they look so cold and a bit bland. I also feel judging by the way you have described the sound of these speaker's I would again choose the likes of the Wharfdale Elysium over these. Interesting review of an interesting speaker but not for me.
@@steverees1936 You got it all wrong. Hi-fi is not about looks, it's purely about sound. Also, to me these speakers look tons better than boring wood finish ones. The finish on them is second to none...you have to see them in person to understand what I'm talking about.
@@andru2625 like I said there's plenty of world class sounding speakers that also look better to me. There's no right or wrong in hifi mate as it's down to personal taste. If I say I don't like them then that's my choice and not anyone elses to tell me otherwise.
Also i think the best affordable speakers are : Wharfedale Diamond 11 series , EVO series and Elysian series designed by Peter Comeau. They sound and look like speakers that cost 3 or 4 times more , they are unique and very good built. i have spoken !
I think at their £11,000 price point they will get bested on pure sound quality grounds, by final audio's new model range of electrostatic loudspeakers. Starting with the hybrids, the model 3 hybrid for £3000, model 5 hybrid £4,000, model 7 at £6,000. Then there are the model 12, and model 15. They can be passive or active driven. This new range will be more transparent and open than any standard loudspeaker range at their cost and above. One of these models is the first place I would start to look at upgrading from my own sealed cabinet monitor audio gold reference GR20 2.5 way floor standers. I would also take a listen to atc's active 3 way monitors loudspeakers, to see between final audio's new esl range passive and active, and atc's 3 way active loudspeakers to see between these two particular brand range of loudspeakers which are the most revealing, transparent, open and detailed between them. Had my sealed cabinet GR20's for quite a long time now, but they are very revealing, detailed, open and explicitly transparent within their 30hz to 30khz capabilities to source and amplification, but sound very balanced within their frequency range as long as source and amplification is up to the task at hand. They have a more detailed open and revealing explicit quality than kefs range of loudspeakers do. They certainly let you hear every very tiny little subtleties and inflections, and the changes of sound between any differences of any cables, amplification, and source components you try, use, and prefer to your taste, and as to how actually good your audio equipment chain is as reguards transparency levels and extraction of signal detail been able to hear if your components are loosing less of the detailed information of the audio signal detail as is possible coming in through the audio chain through to the end output of the loudspeakers. I always have them biamped, or would have them quad monoblocked, but have not found any yet, as detailed and as open and revealing and colourless, ( for the highest performing detailed and resolving highest quality sourced digital and streaming component sources components ), as my late mid 90's avi s2000mi biamped amplification, and you certainly get the emotional content with dynamics with absolutely zero ear fatigue because the amplifiers have extremely low distortion of 0.003% from zero watts to the first 50 watts of their initial power output at the important low level resolution level distortions at low volume levels, as well as at the higher volume levels. The best low distortion levels for any of the very best current transformer powered analogue amplification is 0.002 %, for example like the atc p1 power amplifier, which uses 4 output mosfets per each channel, two for each half phase of the signal in and out. My extremely compact twin transformer powered amplifiers with extremely very short signal path with also ample heatsinking which is the tops of the amplifier casing, have just 1 very large sanken output transistor for each half phase of the signal, and each sanken output device has its own heatsinked driver transistor. So the amplifiers are held constantly balanced in push pull mode to the signal. The signal goes in via vacuum sealed gas filled gold relay reeds. Because the signal path from input to output is so very short and direct, and with only one large transistor for each half phase of the signal in constantly held balanced in pushpull mode while also having extremely low distortion even at the lowest signal levels and with very low self noise, the amplifiers are very transparent, revealing, detailed, dynamic, smooth and non fatigue, as long as the digital source component has very low distortions, very low self noise, and equally very short and direct signal path input to output. You get to hear more detailed signal information with less of the loss of the signal information from a recording as long as the digital component is also up to the same kind of high standards of very very short signal path, with extremely low distortions and extremely low self noise levels . But you equally hear how really bad those bad sounding and compressed and distorted recordings sound, but without ear fatigue, as long as the digital component has near zero distortion figures to three decimal places, 0.00012 etc for example, you get idea of then what I am talking about. Any kind of ear fatigue what so ever at all that is felt upon your very delicate hearing abilities at any non deafening and threatening deafness sound levels in any so called proper audio system or audio monitor system, is caused by the bad old adversary to your hearing called distortion. Any bad and ear fatiguing poor amount of it delivered from your combined audio system from the source, amplification, or the loudspeakers themselves, can be caused by just one component or the whole audio chain of combined source, amplification, and loudspeakers. So any signs at all of any uncomfortable ear fatigue stress of any kind from your beloved audio system, is a sign your audio system is just not up to the very high task and standards it needs to be to give you a pain free sound quality performance experience it needs to be at any volume sound level you want to listen to it at.
Hi Terry, do you know if I can put these speakers up against a wall on each side. I want to put these in my downstairs living room, but space is tight. Not sure if these speakers need room to breath. Thanks!
Nice to see you trying sealed box speakers in your room. £11k is bonkers money though, isn't it? Especially when it remains to be seen what sort of longevity you'd get out of the ribbons in these speakers... Sealed box speakers really come into their own with much larger woofers. Like 12" as a minimum. But then you need the right sort of house / room for that type of speaker...
I have the room to handle most bass - on price these are only the same money as my kef ref 3 but have a curved aluminium cabinet and 4 bass drivers and a ribbon coax mid / tweeter driver array. The kef have a aluminium baffle mdf chassis 2 bass driver and the uniq so its not crazy money really
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Cool. On the bass front, does that mean we can look forward to you trying sealed box speakers with 12" or bigger woofers in your system? And with the speaker price thing, there are (at least) 2 camps: 1 I'm aiming to spend over £x (eg £10k) to get great sounding speakers 2 I'm aiming to spend under £x (eg £2k) to get world class speakers, although there will be convenience compromises in acheiving this
Yes no brainier, grills on. Nice video. Would be great if you can help us share even more in your experience, with a greater range of product shots. Let’s see you connecting the speakers, knocking/tap on the cabinet so we can hear the resonance (or not), different angles, grills on and off etc. Keep it up, always look forward to your content.
Cool. I live 10 miles from the factory and proudly own a set of Coax speakers. You are correct about the amplifier: Having more powerful electronics will bring the Piega's to life. I highly recommend reviewing the Piega MLS-3. They are not from this world...
Really would wish them to make a grill for the mid/tweeter only as those drivers are super sensitive at cost a LOT to replace(they need the complete speaker to switch mid/tweeter drivers). And that's because they look like church speakers with the grill on.
I love my coax 311. The mid range is really excellent.
Very thorough and spot on description of the Piega Coax 511 speakers. I've got the Piega Coax 511 paired with a Marantz PM-10 amplifier and Marantz SA-10 SACD-player/DAC. These Piega beauties simply show me everything, good or bad, in a recording. They are utterly and ruthlessly revealing. Not party speakers, obviously, but very engaging and insightful transducers. In my experience, the Piega Coax 511's soundstage, image precision and bass response improves vastly once the speaker is mounted onto IsoAcoustics Gaia II feet instead of the supplied Piega spikes or feet. Also, that unique Piega coaxial driver needs at least 250 hours of "burn in" to release all of its potential. I hope your review samples were well warmed up prior to this review, Terry.
Hello, I wanted to ask since you own them, do these speakers need ample space to breath. I want to place them in a very tight corner in my living room and not sure how that would affect the sound since they are a sealed enclosure design. Also, are you happy with them? Thanks!
@@DDSRacer01 Hello, Yes, I am very satisfied with my PIEGA Coax 511 speakers. They sound divine when set up properly and when matched with the right equipment!
However, I do think it requires quite a bit of trial & error to set them up optimally. In order to get them to show you the most three-dimensional sound-image possible you really need to let them breathe. Even if they don't have a back-firing bassreflex port they will still need space to the rear and to the sides to deliver the most natural and balanced bass response. Placing them less than 25 inches from any corner the bass response will be very exxagerated.
Also, I'd say that the PIEGA Coax 511 speakers should be positioned no less than 25 inches from the rear wall (measured to the front of each speaker). Placing the speakers even closer to the rear wall will probably make the stereo image less 3D, less precise.
NB! Even though these babies are quite small-ish compared to many other 3-way floorstanders they still have a comparaply very capaple bass output. Try them out in a shop and you will be so surprised with their bass delivery! They will give you extremely well controlled, fast and accurate bass. The amount of bass that they can produce almost seems to contravene the laws of physics - the PIEGA Coax 511 speakers actually sound much bigger than they look since they have such a large membrane cross section area in the lower registers.
Most important note: Always pair these speakers with a high quality amplifier (the more watts, the more these speakers will shine), high quality speaker cables (preferably copper - NOT silver plated copper) and high quality interconnect cables. In my experince the PIEGA Coax 511 speakers sound far better bi-wired than single-wired.
By the way...I'm presently using Albedo Metamorphosis silver interconnects and Inakustik Referenz LS-4004 Air speaker cables as well as Tellurium Q Statement interconnects and Tellurium Q Statement speaker cables in a double barrel shotgun setup (= two runs of speaker cables per speaker).
You put a huge amount of effort into these reviews Tel. I just enjoy every moment. Love the detail, the humour and the honesty. Really, really good. I've crossed everything I've got that you keep going with this ace channel.
Thanks very much Big Blue, really appreciate it
I have these speakers in my Focus for the last 3 weeks. Looking forward to watch your Clip this afternoon. Best Topic. :) coax ribbon
Greetings from Germany
These speakers fascinate me, esp the coax ribbon mid/tweeter. Unfortunately I really don't care for them aesthetically, don't care for the aluminum construction.
I pretty much had the same prejudice prior to demo'ing them at my local hifi-shop. Actually the aluminium cabinets don't look the slightest metallic or cold once you "meet" them. In high gloss white or high gloss black lacquer they are the most delicately looking, feminine shaped speakers. And they feel kind of soft and organic as well. Also, you can combine a white or silver pair of speakers with black front covers to make them look more like organ pipes if you fancy. They are quite wife-appealing and discrete appearing speakers compaired to many other "guys only"-speakers out there that often seem to resemble props from a Star Wars-film.
Nice honest review. 3 Epic Moments. 1st your GOAT KEF system with the Canor amps and etc.🐐 2nd the Peppa Pig Raisin sound stage visual demo. 3rd the rose tribute to the Luxman amplifier. 🌹 We need more Peppa Pig demos🐷
There is more than 3 Epic moments from PPS hahaha
Piega are sensational love them
Great review. I am looking at the Sonus Faber Olympica Nova V and the Monitor Audio PL 300 ii. Both gorgeous and in the same price range. Do you have any insight into a comparison between their sound quality? Thank you mate!
Terry, do yourself a big favour sometime: do try out a pair of Piega Coax 711. The bass power from those babies will shake the bedrock under your house. They are in a completely different league. Those four 22cm/8" woofers can move a serious amount of air. Play them loudly and you'll need to rebuild the masonry of your house afterwards. I mean, they can start an earthquake even though they are very linear all the way through the frequency range. Massive sound pressure and unparalleled dynamics combined with even more detailed sound than that of the Coax 511.
I agree, the bigger models like mine piega classic 60.2,s can produce bass that will make you go jump up in the air! And it still sounds very coherent and refined, with all kinds of music! The search is over.
Looks fantastic, sounds great, err the bank says no. Love clean clear transparent sound.
Where can you get these speaker in the US? Thanks
I think your best bet is speaking to the US distributor mofidistribution.com/ sales@mofi.com 001 7027763666
Pursuit Perfect System thank you so much! I looked everywhere with no luck. Appreciate you
For me the looks of a speaker are just as important as the sound and I much prefer the looks of the KEF reference 3 to these. I'm a huge fan of the good old wood finish so these wouldn't get a look in for me as I feel they look so cold and a bit bland. I also feel judging by the way you have described the sound of these speaker's I would again choose the likes of the Wharfdale Elysium over these. Interesting review of an interesting speaker but not for me.
You don't know what you're missing. These are world class speakers with top of the line coaxial drivers.
@@andru2625 plenty of world class speaker's that look better to me.
@@steverees1936 You got it all wrong. Hi-fi is not about looks, it's purely about sound. Also, to me these speakers look tons better than boring wood finish ones. The finish on them is second to none...you have to see them in person to understand what I'm talking about.
@@andru2625 like I said there's plenty of world class sounding speakers that also look better to me. There's no right or wrong in hifi mate as it's down to personal taste. If I say I don't like them then that's my choice and not anyone elses to tell me otherwise.
Thorough review again Terry as usual!
Also i think the best affordable speakers are : Wharfedale Diamond 11 series , EVO series and Elysian series designed by Peter Comeau. They sound and look like speakers that cost 3 or 4 times more , they are unique and very good built. i have spoken !
Hello I have Piega cl90.2 x with symphonic line amp and sound terrific
Nice to see they’re biwireable unlike fuckin Focal who dont seem to believe in it
Haha Matt you crack me up
no need for faith when you have science unequivocally proving bi-wiring and bi-amping is useless and provides NO audible benefit.
Visually they don't do it for me at all. I couldn't live with them on sound alone..
Radical looking speaker.
I think at their £11,000 price point they will get bested on pure sound quality grounds, by final audio's new model range of electrostatic loudspeakers. Starting with the hybrids, the model 3 hybrid for £3000, model 5 hybrid £4,000, model 7 at £6,000. Then there are the model 12, and model 15. They can be passive or active driven. This new range will be more transparent and open than any standard loudspeaker range at their cost and above. One of these models is the first place I would start to look at upgrading from my own sealed cabinet monitor audio gold reference GR20 2.5 way floor standers. I would also take a listen to atc's active 3 way monitors loudspeakers, to see between final audio's new esl range passive and active, and atc's 3 way active loudspeakers to see between these two particular brand range of loudspeakers which are the most revealing, transparent, open and detailed between them. Had my sealed cabinet GR20's for quite a long time now, but they are very revealing, detailed, open and explicitly transparent within their 30hz to 30khz capabilities to source and amplification, but sound very balanced within their frequency range as long as source and amplification is up to the task at hand. They have a more detailed open and revealing explicit quality than kefs range of loudspeakers do. They certainly let you hear every very tiny little subtleties and inflections, and the changes of sound between any differences of any cables, amplification, and source components you try, use, and prefer to your taste, and as to how actually good your audio equipment chain is as reguards transparency levels and extraction of signal detail been able to hear if your components are loosing less of the detailed information of the audio signal detail as is possible coming in through the audio chain through to the end output of the loudspeakers. I always have them biamped, or would have them quad monoblocked, but have not found any yet, as detailed and as open and revealing and colourless, ( for the highest performing detailed and resolving highest quality sourced digital and streaming component sources components ), as my late mid 90's avi s2000mi biamped amplification, and you certainly get the emotional content with dynamics with absolutely zero ear fatigue because the amplifiers have extremely low distortion of 0.003% from zero watts to the first 50 watts of their initial power output at the important low level resolution level distortions at low volume levels, as well as at the higher volume levels. The best low distortion levels for any of the very best current transformer powered analogue amplification is 0.002 %, for example like the atc p1 power amplifier, which uses 4 output mosfets per each channel, two for each half phase of the signal in and out. My extremely compact twin transformer powered amplifiers with extremely very short signal path with also ample heatsinking which is the tops of the amplifier casing, have just 1 very large sanken output transistor for each half phase of the signal, and each sanken output device has its own heatsinked driver transistor. So the amplifiers are held constantly balanced in push pull mode to the signal. The signal goes in via vacuum sealed gas filled gold relay reeds. Because the signal path from input to output is so very short and direct, and with only one large transistor for each half phase of the signal in constantly held balanced in pushpull mode while also having extremely low distortion even at the lowest signal levels and with very low self noise, the amplifiers are very transparent, revealing, detailed, dynamic, smooth and non fatigue, as long as the digital source component has very low distortions, very low self noise, and equally very short and direct signal path input to output. You get to hear more detailed signal information with less of the loss of the signal information from a recording as long as the digital component is also up to the same kind of high standards of very very short signal path, with extremely low distortions and extremely low self noise levels . But you equally hear how really bad those bad sounding and compressed and distorted recordings sound, but without ear fatigue, as long as the digital component has near zero distortion figures to three decimal places, 0.00012 etc for example, you get idea of then what I am talking about. Any kind of ear fatigue what so ever at all that is felt upon your very delicate hearing abilities at any non deafening and threatening deafness sound levels in any so called proper audio system or audio monitor system, is caused by the bad old adversary to your hearing called distortion. Any bad and ear fatiguing poor amount of it delivered from your combined audio system from the source, amplification, or the loudspeakers themselves, can be caused by just one component or the whole audio chain of combined source, amplification, and loudspeakers. So any signs at all of any uncomfortable ear fatigue stress of any kind from your beloved audio system, is a sign your audio system is just not up to the very high task and standards it needs to be to give you a pain free sound quality performance experience it needs to be at any volume sound level you want to listen to it at.
Why don't you write a book ?
Hi Terry, do you know if I can put these speakers up against a wall on each side. I want to put these in my downstairs living room, but space is tight. Not sure if these speakers need room to breath. Thanks!
Pretty sure they are sealed so very likely yes but I would check in with Piega and ask them just to make sure
@@PursuitPerfectSystem you da man, thx Terry!
Nice to see you trying sealed box speakers in your room.
£11k is bonkers money though, isn't it?
Especially when it remains to be seen what sort of longevity you'd get out of the ribbons in these speakers...
Sealed box speakers really come into their own with much larger woofers. Like 12" as a minimum. But then you need the right sort of house / room for that type of speaker...
I have the room to handle most bass - on price these are only the same money as my kef ref 3 but have a curved aluminium cabinet and 4 bass drivers and a ribbon coax mid / tweeter driver array. The kef have a aluminium baffle mdf chassis 2 bass driver and the uniq so its not crazy money really
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Cool. On the bass front, does that mean we can look forward to you trying sealed box speakers with 12" or bigger woofers in your system?
And with the speaker price thing, there are (at least) 2 camps:
1 I'm aiming to spend over £x (eg £10k) to get great sounding speakers
2 I'm aiming to spend under £x (eg £2k) to get world class speakers, although there will be convenience compromises in acheiving this
Yes no brainier, grills on. Nice video. Would be great if you can help us share even more in your experience, with a greater range of product shots. Let’s see you connecting the speakers, knocking/tap on the cabinet so we can hear the resonance (or not), different angles, grills on and off etc. Keep it up, always look forward to your content.
Gorgeous looking speakers,
Does your misses know your cheating on her with a set of speakers? 😂
As a HiFi widow she is used to it :)
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Another great review, good luck getting the long term loan 👍
hahaha, I often drop hints man but they don't always work hahaha