Kanye is the most successful Performance Artist of All Time: A Professor Skye Video Essay

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  • @phillippoggi8080
    @phillippoggi8080 3 роки тому +165

    Kanye has never said he was a performance artist, but he definitely is one.

    • @Renzov12
      @Renzov12 3 роки тому +25

      He did look at his Yeezus interview on breakfast club he told them he ask Nike for royalties and they said no cuz he’s not a ball player n he said “I go to the Garden and play 1 on nobody I’m a performance artist.”

    • @GeronFletcher
      @GeronFletcher 3 роки тому +7

      Kanye has never been the type to explain his art.

    • @Mvp8
      @Mvp8 3 роки тому +12

      He works closely to vanessa beecroft who does performance art exhibitions. She’s been working closely with him and even on his payroll for the last decade

    • @Glotaku
      @Glotaku 3 роки тому +4

      He did say in an Interview that life is his stage

    • @Mixed.messages
      @Mixed.messages 3 роки тому

      Exactly

  • @gazon9254
    @gazon9254 3 роки тому +245

    haven't watched the entirety of the video yet, but I already feel the need to thank you for your incredible insights. You always manage to approach performances and albums in ways that i would never imagine in a thousand years. Cheers from brazil

    • @Ruithu12
      @Ruithu12 3 роки тому +4

      cheers from brazil!! mandou muito

    • @gazon9254
      @gazon9254 3 роки тому +2

      @@Ruithu12 noix meu querido! é de onde?

    • @thaigo_tigas_tigo
      @thaigo_tigas_tigo 3 роки тому +4

      cheers from São Paulo mano, esse cara é foda mesmo né!

    • @Ruithu12
      @Ruithu12 3 роки тому +2

      @@gazon9254 opa sou do interior de sp e vc??

    • @gazon9254
      @gazon9254 3 роки тому +2

      @@Ruithu12 oeste de SC aqui guri

  • @jodyisthatyou4296
    @jodyisthatyou4296 3 роки тому +125

    The bit where he was moving shrouded by the jacket/blanket was a Joseph Beuys reference to the performance piece "I like america and america likes me". He tweeted out a Beuys book and an image of the work several years ago. Probably the most direct confirmation that performance art is the intended lens. Salute.

    • @ineverswag
      @ineverswag 3 роки тому +8

      Tremaine put him onto Joseph beuys and david hammons

  • @wizzyschannel2405
    @wizzyschannel2405 2 роки тому +7

    Wow. Incredible video. I’m literally lost for words. I love how you dissect and analyse these things. I’d also add on that the Performance Art was spread across more than just the 2 minutes in question. The 24 hour livestream as he crafted the album before the performance. The lifting into the sky. The “performing” during the performance.
    This was a 10/10 video for sure.

  • @Milan-fo7tq
    @Milan-fo7tq 3 роки тому +134

    I am so happy people saw the Donda stream as performance art. Kanye being a black man and being labeled as a "rapper" always leads to this negative connotation which makes people degrade Kanye as a true artist. People don't want to admit that he is in fact a creative genius and its so crazy to me because Kanye actually went to art school, hes literally mentioned Marina Abramovic in interviews. He knows what he's doing and I think his intention was indeed to show us a performance. I truly can't wait to see the new generation of contemporary art textbooks show Kanye in them and give him the proper respect he deserves. You brought up amazing points in this video especially how if this was done by a white man people wouldn't hesitate to call it performance art. Thank you so much for making this video.
    (P.S During the Donda performance Kanye had a large black jacket over his head walking in a circle, I saw someone compare it to Joseph Beuys "I Like America and America Likes Me". I wanted to know what you think about this)

    • @solodolotrevino
      @solodolotrevino 3 роки тому +5

      People always make comments about his bipolar disorder and just brush him off as “crazy” because of the way he speaks so passionately, but he doesn’t get credit for the level of sophistication in his work. People know they are intrigued by him but won’t admit it

    • @milesmungo
      @milesmungo 3 роки тому +4

      I don't imagine you were implying this, but we can often forget that rappers (and pop stars, and rock stars, and even vapid 'celebrities') can also be sometimes great artists. There aren't a lot of rappers I would say transcend, but there are a few. Some rappers stay as 'just a rapper', but within that is a collection of great art.

  • @bretgalway1412
    @bretgalway1412 3 роки тому +28

    I would love to see an hour long video on the psyche/Art of Kanye West. It’s so interesting me that Kanye encourages free thought and encourages people to think. I would love a breakdown from you. Great video btw

  • @AustynRich
    @AustynRich 3 роки тому +2

    Agreed. He was seen reading performance art books and supporting the experimentation performance art plays with

  • @ronb4115
    @ronb4115 3 роки тому +30

    This interpretation of Kanye is very similar to mine and what I’ve been telling friends and family for years. The difference is I don’t have .01% of the eduction you have in arts and about .01% of the capability to articulate the many layers and levels of Kanye as well as you do. So, thanks ;)

  • @traplover6357
    @traplover6357 3 роки тому +18

    Every Discord server I was on, that wasn't even music-focused, had a large crowd in the voice chat with someone re-streaming the Apple Music stream. Kanye's impact as an overall artist transcends any 1 art form.

  • @kalman703
    @kalman703 3 роки тому +13

    his whole life is performance art - I was at the Yeezus tour in 2013, it was incredible and it was art

  • @2stout2shako2d6
    @2stout2shako2d6 3 роки тому +11

    The masks are a reference to Martin Margiela's 1989 spring show. Kanye is very open about Margiela being a huge influence on him and his work. In the fashion world of the late 80's, having famous model's appear in your runway would make or break the show, Margiela covered the model's faces using black masks.
    Kanye also works with Deema Gvasalia, a designer from Maison Margiela who designed the Donda merch and the 2nd Donda show, as well as helped Kanye making season 1.

    • @SamHoyekGuitar
      @SamHoyekGuitar 3 роки тому

      Great info about Margiela and the black masks, thanks!

  • @GrandPrizeFitnesAJAY
    @GrandPrizeFitnesAJAY 3 роки тому +5

    Thanks for bringing art history to the conversation. 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

  • @nikkolasnowak9805
    @nikkolasnowak9805 3 роки тому +1

    Kanye doesn’t like being labeled or put into any boxes. He is always evolving and challenging whatever he can. “As soon as they like you, make them unlike you”

  • @JustinAngel
    @JustinAngel 3 роки тому +20

    "You can recreate, but can you create?"
    MIC DROP

    • @professorskye
      @professorskye  3 роки тому +11

      I should have given credit to my wife who first said it in that succinct way.

    • @JustinAngel
      @JustinAngel 3 роки тому +5

      @@professorskye it's perfect. This whole essay is fantastic; however, that one line alone is perfect for the many naysayers right now. It's like people sitting at home drinking beer on the couch judging the performance of an Olympic athlete.

    • @michelemichele3375
      @michelemichele3375 3 роки тому +2

      @@professorskye Yeah, nails it often. ✨🤪

  • @kiroolioneaver8532
    @kiroolioneaver8532 3 роки тому +205

    "I am Warhol. I am the No. 1 most impactful artist of our generation. I am Shakespeare in the flesh."
    "We got this new thing called classism. It's racism's cousin. This is what we do to hold people back. This is what we do. And we got this other thing that's also been working for a long time when you don't have to be racist anymore. It's called self-hate. It works on itself. It's like real estate of racism. Where just like that, when someone comes up and says something like, 'I am a god,' everybody says, 'Who does he think he is?' I just told you who I thought I was! A god! I just told you. That's who I think I am. Would it have been better if I had a song that said, 'I am a n***a? Or if I had a song that said, 'I am a gangster'? Or if I had a song that said, 'I am a pimp'? All those colors and patinas fit better on a person like me, right? But to say you are a god, especially when you got shipped over to the country that you're in, and your last name is a slave owner's. How could you say that? How could you have that mentality?"
    (Glad you watched this and were able to comment on it after not watching the first one. btw Kanye also briefly attended the American Academy of Art something that's rarely, if ever, brought up lol)

    • @elik031
      @elik031 3 роки тому +9

      That interview was legendary, watched it for the first time last week

    • @thelolrus7491
      @thelolrus7491 3 роки тому +6

      So so right. Classism is the number one issue right now to me. The elites are making us hate each other by stoking the racial tensions so we're too busy tearing each other apart instead of coming after them.

    • @solodolotrevino
      @solodolotrevino 3 роки тому +6

      You’d be surprised the amount of rappers who went to prestigious art schools. Even Tupac went to an art school and danced ballet. Had he lived I’m sure he would have gone on to show just how multitalented he really was and wouldn’t have been held back by societal constraints either

    • @kiroolioneaver8532
      @kiroolioneaver8532 3 роки тому +3

      @@solodolotrevino I remember lyrics from even Chamillionaire: "Wasn't a rapper back in the day I used to draw"

  • @MinecraftGamer604
    @MinecraftGamer604 3 роки тому +11

    The fact that your content is consistently so well thought out and high quality is very impressive, love your channel!

  • @uzidropallalone1075
    @uzidropallalone1075 3 роки тому +4

    i love how passionate you are about these things, makes it very interesting for me and really makes me grasp how great kanye really is

  • @juju-vl7oj
    @juju-vl7oj 3 роки тому +28

    I'm glad you watched it. The listening parties are part of the Kanye album experience as an artist and what he did last night was a major highlight of his career that might be more essential than an album because it displayed so much about him as an all-around artist. Totally had the same thought about it being a profound piece of performance art. Just looking at the stage before he arrived I realized that the stage setup with the bed and clothes was an art piece. It's so cool and rare that you get the full scope of Kanye as an artist. I feel like some hip hop fans are ignorant to the art aspects and many art fans are ignorant to how great Kanye is an artist because they aren't hip hop fans or have a limited view of him as a person. I think his race definitely affects the way he's perceived, but also its because Kanye himself is confusing person to read , because at times he can seem very ignorant about things and some people see that and become blind to the genius side of him.

  • @rapmusicplugpod
    @rapmusicplugpod 3 роки тому +13

    This guy is amazing... such a unique perspective and really insightful thoughts

  • @christianstone8999
    @christianstone8999 3 роки тому +2

    13:47 Those pieces are from Balenciaga, a Parisian fashion house

  • @graysamo
    @graysamo 3 роки тому +3

    Bliss foster also breaks down this performance piece

  • @Mixed.messages
    @Mixed.messages 3 роки тому +7

    I love your apartment. The contrast of Yeezus and The Velvet Underground is brilliant

    • @jackfrost6463
      @jackfrost6463 3 роки тому

      Lou Reed gave a spectacularly glowing review of Yeezus so it’s fitting haha

  • @Neema150
    @Neema150 3 роки тому +1

    He is also a very talented painter. The paintings he did in school were featured in PBS's art show.

  • @lucasgarcezxyz
    @lucasgarcezxyz 3 роки тому +3

    I wish more working class people could enjoy performance art without instantly dismissing as garbage or 'is just someone doing something'. Great Video!

  • @Goldenxomedy
    @Goldenxomedy 3 роки тому +8

    the fact that we all thought his room looked like a jail cell without him saying anything and we had song like Jesus lord and jail is just wow the final part of Jesus lord where that mantels his story, the way everything connects, the different stages of the music and the lighting finalizing the whole thing with him ascending in the middle of that light beam, everything is just amazing

  • @deadbeatchronicles637
    @deadbeatchronicles637 3 роки тому +4

    This would be a great article to read

  • @khhww22
    @khhww22 3 роки тому +9

    Don’t know if you saw any of the 24 hour life stream that went on before hand but I believe a lot of that also played into the whole performance

  • @pensive1.vivifier
    @pensive1.vivifier 3 роки тому

    Thank you for making this video. I would have liked some pictures and videos along with you mentioning the artworks. Thank you for ever!

  • @adoniswept
    @adoniswept 3 роки тому +4

    1:57 correction he HAS called himself a performance artist! in his 2015 breakfast club interview he compared himself to marnia ambramovic

  • @RoseGoldHunii
    @RoseGoldHunii 3 роки тому +1

    I love your perspective, very insightful videos and I appreciate how much you go into detail when explaining your points

  • @GeronFletcher
    @GeronFletcher 3 роки тому +58

    I always actually had a feeling his whole red hat Donald trump support was performance art. A lot of reasons but also on more than one occasion Kanye said he’s the biggest troll on earth because he wore the red hat…. That sounds like he wasn’t really a trump supporter. But just tried to get on trumps good side to have him do some things for him. Get some people out of prison etc. yet also Kanye never explains his art. So he won’t ever say I WAS JOKING. But it sure seems like it

    • @jaseallenson316
      @jaseallenson316 3 роки тому +22

      Imo opinion it was kanye showing people that they shouldnt be scared to go against the grain, no matter the backlash you may recieve. Be a leader not a follower.

    • @Bound2chaos2
      @Bound2chaos2 3 роки тому +1

      It would be funny if one day he just came out and said he did everything to troll

    • @user-ne1nd8sr8f
      @user-ne1nd8sr8f 3 роки тому +13

      @@Bound2chaos2 Apparently, according to his close friend GLC, he threw away all his MAGA hats. GLC went on to say that Kanye only did that big political stand for Trump in order to use the President to free innocents from prison, which did eventually occur.

    • @GeronFletcher
      @GeronFletcher 3 роки тому +2

      @@user-ne1nd8sr8f yeah he did. GLC actually had posted a short video of the big box of maga hats Kanye gave to him to take away. But he quickly deleted it

    • @lockon2554
      @lockon2554 3 роки тому +1

      Yes and no, he's had rants where he talked about Obama not doing anything really "effective" in his presidency; not because Obama wasn't a good leader by any means but because he had to be a "perfect" cut of a president due to racism still being very much alive in our society. His support for Trump went by this same logic from his prior rants because Trump was a white president and also one who had come into his presidency saying he will go completely against the grain.
      I said yes because he did use Trump in his favor, but no because he really did support Trump's movements believing that Trump can help the nation in actually taking action.

  • @sooperd00p
    @sooperd00p 3 роки тому +4

    Everyday it blows my mind how little people understand the natural order of the world.
    Kanye is too real for yall.
    God Bless.

  • @NatRealActual
    @NatRealActual 3 роки тому +6

    I would also like to point out that during the livestream beforehand he sat down two models in red dresses that were similar to the one worn during "The Artist is Present". Kanye has also compared himself to marina abromavic a while ago when talking about his bound 2 video.

  • @flouserschird
    @flouserschird 3 роки тому +16

    Kanye is a genius. Greatest visionary of our time.

  • @manos1111
    @manos1111 3 роки тому +5

    amazing analysis! Album is fantastic as well

    • @willpower3317
      @willpower3317 3 роки тому

      There is no album.

    • @manos1111
      @manos1111 3 роки тому +2

      @@willpower3317 there are reuploads of last nights event

  • @JermaineJagger
    @JermaineJagger 2 роки тому +1

    Wow glad I stumbled upon this video in my recommended. Im not a hugeee fan of kanye but i respect his work & love some of it, even if i disagree with his beliefs. More importantly loveee your voice and your take on this topic 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 looking forward to checking out more of your videos!

  • @roses1419
    @roses1419 3 роки тому +2

    He made art and it ended up on antiques roadshow

  • @GV_777YT
    @GV_777YT 2 роки тому +1

    He always said that after his mom left nothing could hurt him anymore. Just dawned on me that that’s why the bullet vest has her name.

  • @2741179
    @2741179 3 роки тому +3

    Skye I like your review very much. Kanye, like many great artists have experienced an epiphany. He is creating for the audience the closest thing that one can make encompassing all of the senses to have a GOD LIKE CONNECTION and make the object (person) being observed and viewer one. Your take on performance art is very clear.

  • @GV_777YT
    @GV_777YT 3 роки тому +1

    in 2016 In an interview with the breakfastclub, Kanye referred to him self as a performance artist, in the likes of Marina Abramovic.

  • @matthewbrown7572
    @matthewbrown7572 3 роки тому +2

    Great video and analysis of the intersection of so called low art / high art, or commercial art and fine art. Also the mixing of art genres and formal training in a field and not as well as crossing between various genres.When my wife and I were in London, and went to the British Museum, one of the most interesting exhibits, were collections of various things by people who were not experts in the fields of objects collected.It made me think of the benefits of delving into something with fresh eyes.This is an important and very interesting subject in the arts today.Thanks.

  • @Grr8jon
    @Grr8jon 3 роки тому +3

    Absolutely loved this video. Great insight. Thank you for this.
    The Donda donda donda piece also represents heartbeats. Each "donda" said was a heartbeat.

  • @Julesfrequency
    @Julesfrequency 3 роки тому +3

    Why couldn’t my college professor be this cool lol damn bro

  • @JohnBullfrost
    @JohnBullfrost 3 роки тому

    Great review!
    Much love from Gothenburg Sweden

  • @africaconnection.Ofiicial
    @africaconnection.Ofiicial 3 роки тому +7

    Great lecture, professor. I agree with you. People need to give Kanye the credit he deserves.

  • @Rytronica
    @Rytronica 3 роки тому +2

    God I found this channel yesterday and i'm loving the refreshingly intelligent, mature and cultured point of view. The Jay Electronica review was on point too.

  • @deathcube35
    @deathcube35 3 роки тому

    6:32 was great

  • @Goldenxomedy
    @Goldenxomedy 3 роки тому +6

    I hope you saw the stream before the actual event that was the best thing I've ever watched and im not nearly as prepared as you but all the messages, beauty and all the things I witnessed through that stream were amazing. at a point two women were wearing red dresses with silver armor boots and stared at the camera while Kanye recorded music in front of them, at a pion Kanye went to sleep with his face mask on in front of the camera for 5 hours, then a black man dressed in black standed next to a beautiful model in a black dress with silver boots and both stared at the camera for probably 30 mins people were coming in then going out. Don C was there Kanyes chef and Steven Smith a legendary sneaker designer were there just siting with Nico ballestros bu and demna balenciagas and vetements

  • @stevensonjc21
    @stevensonjc21 3 роки тому +1

    I cackled at Weston Kelly. So good. Subbed.

  • @saintpablo2645
    @saintpablo2645 3 роки тому

    This video is just amazing, i can picture this guy and Kanye having conversations that would last for hours and hours, he talks almost identically as Kanye. This man knows what he's talking about. Awesome video!!

  • @arturoavila7615
    @arturoavila7615 3 роки тому +1

    The famous music video… that that performance art asf yalllll 😭🙌🏽

  • @davesaddiction2024
    @davesaddiction2024 2 роки тому

    Kanye absolutely HAS said he’s a performance artist. In his 2014 Breakfast Club interview, when asked why he didn’t replace himself with celebrity impressionist Jay Pharaoh for the Bound2 video, he says “this is performance art, I’m like Marina Abramovic”

  • @JGtheChampion
    @JGtheChampion 3 роки тому

    I couldn't get the video to work during the listening party. I was only seeing out of context clips and when "Donda" being repeated, I was extremely confused as to what was going. This helped give more context

  • @oskarsodergren7033
    @oskarsodergren7033 3 роки тому

    everything he has ever done is performance art and whether he intends it or not, he realizes this. he knows that no matter what he does/does not plan to do or say it will be talked about. to me it seems like a giant reflection of his relatability and general celebrity culture.

  • @str1ve305
    @str1ve305 3 роки тому +3

    I always have to remind myself from time and time again that along from being different artistry wise from everyone else, he also had such a different upbringing as far as the black experience from any other artist. Around the time he was starting in the music scene, the big players were still black artists who’s reality were the street life, and their music reflected the street life. NWA, Snoop Dogg, Tupac, Notorious BIG, 50 Cent, just to name a few. But Kanye was different in the sense that he grew up pretty middle class. He had a great sense for style and polo shirts, both his parents were very highly educated. So I agree with Skye’s point in that he pretty much has the upbringing and resume of a highly successful white person. And that is exactly where the racism starts. But even moreso, he is a futurist. Just as all this racism in America continues to go on, Kanye was talking about all of this back in 2013 with Yeezus, because he is ALWAYS at least a decade ahead of everyone.

  • @maikejeanart
    @maikejeanart 3 роки тому +1

    Amazing!!! Thank you! :)

  • @bobbyporch
    @bobbyporch 3 роки тому

    This is some really great stuff. I appreciate you making this video

  • @derond7405
    @derond7405 3 роки тому +64

    Another genius aspect of the performance was that Donda was repeated exactly 58 times.
    Which represents the total number of years she lived.

    • @yehor_ivanov
      @yehor_ivanov 3 роки тому +7

      that ain't too genius, thou bruh
      that sounds like smth a child would come up with
      actually, one could argue
      everything Kanye does could be looked at this way
      which is - still -
      actually, almost obviously - I think - a gr8 thing
      "my childish creativity
      fighting for custody"
      u kno', right?)

    • @auguste573
      @auguste573 3 роки тому +9

      @@yehor_ivanov I mean he did say in an interview he creates as if he was 4

    • @matthewkemp5343
      @matthewkemp5343 3 роки тому +5

      @@yehor_ivanov I mean one could argue that his ability to still create like a child over 30 years after being one is genius.

    • @mrervb
      @mrervb 3 роки тому

      🤯

    • @JMartinJ
      @JMartinJ 3 роки тому +4

      @@yehor_ivanov walt disney, Michael jackson all created through the lense of children. Thats what made them so legendary

  • @ringer1324
    @ringer1324 3 роки тому +2

    The biggest Ye fan is here to review a performance for the actual performance and not the music. Respect.

  • @modecontents
    @modecontents 3 роки тому +1

    I posted the behind the scenes of that listening party on my channel, Kanye is the most creative/influential artist of this generation

  • @nivedmodo
    @nivedmodo 3 роки тому +1

    Wonderfully articulated

  • @cheemaprod3225
    @cheemaprod3225 3 роки тому +1

    man you’re such a cool guy. great video 🔥🔥

  • @---Snaporaz---
    @---Snaporaz--- 3 роки тому +1

    as a italian art student I agree on this, fuck academic, kanye have value and is a fine artist

  • @dearashton
    @dearashton 3 роки тому +1

    Lest we forget that Ye was on track to go to go to Art School. He is most definitely the most successful performance Artist of all time. Great review 💫

  • @joepeluso4738
    @joepeluso4738 3 роки тому

    Incredible video, I'll be sharing it with my friends ♥️

  • @Mvp8
    @Mvp8 3 роки тому

    I think that his vision is so strong he can create and keep creating and since it is all based off of one idea it all ties together

  • @KalamariFromTheParty
    @KalamariFromTheParty 3 роки тому +4

    Damn, never thought about the performance like this . Great insights and great articulation. someone should show this to Kanye I think he would greatly appreciate that people have more to say than just “this is dope” or “this is wack”
    Also this gives me a whole new perspective on what I’d like to do with the art I’m creating in my life, going forward. So thank you ☺️

  • @brandonburroughs7128
    @brandonburroughs7128 3 роки тому +1

    Look up the story behind NO LOVE DEEP WEB by Death Grips. Great example of modern performance art

  • @mfundomkhize2337
    @mfundomkhize2337 3 роки тому

    The biggest moment in Art, Fashion and music was a Listening Party. 🔥🔥🔥

  • @willpower3317
    @willpower3317 3 роки тому +36

    I don’t think he’s going to release digital albums anymore. From now on, his music will only be heard via periodic live-streamed performances. Catch the stream, or you’ll never get the chance to hear new music from him.

    • @brawler5785
      @brawler5785 3 роки тому +19

      As kanye as that would be to do, spotify staff has already confirmed that the album will drop. Plus people in kanye's camp are saying today's the day it'll drop on streaming.
      Edit: this shit aint dropping today💀

    • @justis00
      @justis00 3 роки тому +4

      Not sure if that's true but its an interesting idea. It's crossed my mind too.

    • @alishahawkins9706
      @alishahawkins9706 3 роки тому

      He better, I paid for a copy of the digital upon release

    • @willpower3317
      @willpower3317 3 роки тому +5

      @@brawler5785 I recall him once saying “F*ck you and your corporation, you people can’t control me!”

    • @cmooreHD
      @cmooreHD 3 роки тому +2

      This would be AMAZING! As a one time only listening experience. I applauded ! BUT on the flip side.. extremely sad because I do want to consume it in traditional form like his past bodies of work.

  • @meettravis
    @meettravis 3 роки тому +1

    Wow. Thank you.

  • @ozzyisthirsty8105
    @ozzyisthirsty8105 3 роки тому

    You're channel is an absolute gem and i really enjoy your fresh takes on artists and music :)

  • @NacrunoCreations
    @NacrunoCreations 3 роки тому +3

    I love your enthousiasm about the art and your passion to meticulously explain the details to others! Subbed immediately. I enjoyed the livestream a lot yesterday and I picked up on some points but watching this made me realize better why it affected me so strongly because it was such a powerful performance art.
    I've followed a few courses at my uni on art history and western art even though I'm an economics major, but I still always felt like I don't know where to really start my journey to understand art and artists better. I've watched many people on this website but it is this video which showed me exactly what I want to aim for. Thanks for referring to those two books as a starting point, I'm definitely going to buy them asap. Do you have any other suggestions which would help me better understand/interpret existent art and also on the creation of new art? Thanks!

  • @LBAW
    @LBAW 3 роки тому +45

    I think this could also be seen as what happens to a concept for an art piece the longer you work on it. "Donda" is repeated so many times that, at least to me and my experience, her name lost meaning and just became sounds and a rhythm. And artistic idea that you eventually become numb to the more you expose yourself to it.

    • @willpower3317
      @willpower3317 3 роки тому +1

      Excellent point. He could very well name it Kimberly at this point.

  • @joelsgotthekeys
    @joelsgotthekeys 3 роки тому

    This is a great video! You had me at Warhol!

  • @maymacasio9850
    @maymacasio9850 3 роки тому

    excellent. just.. excellent.

  • @superstock9261
    @superstock9261 3 роки тому

    Great work man

  • @Chestermcfly420
    @Chestermcfly420 3 роки тому +6

    I agree with you 100% that’s why when I found out you can order the red jacket from the first listening party he did from yeezy gap I did the only catch is that it doesn’t ship until February 2022 and I understand as far away but I already see this jacket selling for $800 so I’m going to hold onto it like a famous painting and allow to accumulate value but I actually like the jacket too so for me I believe that’s a win-win and that would not be possible if he was an performance artist

  • @phillippoggi8080
    @phillippoggi8080 3 роки тому +4

    He is the modern performance artist of the time.

  • @Chestermcfly420
    @Chestermcfly420 3 роки тому +2

    Donda

  • @JoeyHeartthrob
    @JoeyHeartthrob 3 роки тому

    ok so im a huge Ye fan and i been listening to him since the beginning and as a black person he has inspired me to be an artist. i first heard thru the wire in 2005 at 11 and been following every kanye move since. DONDA SORROUND is an audio system that he designed in tandem with DONDA VISION where it was a seven screen experience. he has his name on the patent or it is owned by the DONDA creative group. i also think that the "donda interlude" serves a secondary purpose because he has named so many important things after his mother, what came to me immediately was that he is also thinking about the consequences of success. I also think that with the creative direction was important to note that Demna was working with him and he has worked with kanye before and they share a similar creative palette of fashion silhouettes, religious iconography, uniforms and massive, almost dystopian oppressive spectacle

  • @TchillaxMango
    @TchillaxMango 3 роки тому +7

    Kanye Got everybody asking the same question h’es been asking himself since years
    *Where is Donda??

  • @brugjam4044
    @brugjam4044 3 роки тому

    Brilliant video essay!

  • @ljgx4953
    @ljgx4953 3 роки тому

    What an incredible analysis!

  • @arnoldcheng9979
    @arnoldcheng9979 2 роки тому

    Coming back here after the Donda 2 show. It was everything the first show one, but better. I think Ye had a better idea of what he wanted to express this time around.

  • @pjetrs
    @pjetrs 3 роки тому +2

    Im not surprised by the performance, since 2010-ish we have seen Kanye do a lot of impressive artistic performances. However I'm still puzzled by the following question: was it planned to do a first listening party and then do this crazy run for the second one? Or did he just sort of improvise it in the weeks after the first one? It matters to me because if its improvised Im not really looking at connecting the dots between the events, but if it was planned Im reaaally interested in what he has been doing all these weeks and what the point of the first listening party was. He played music tha wasnt finished, walked around the stadium during soccer games, seemed to miss release dates etc.
    And to me the story doesn't feel finished. Im getting a bit of a Yeezus tour- type of Dantes Inferno, where the ascending at the end of the second act (/second listening party) is just a step up for a third event, where everything comes together. Maybe the album is finished all along and we are just being played with, maybe we witness his entire process live and semi improvised, maybe there will never be an album. Who knows? Whatever it is, I'm totally there for it

  • @stanislas1469
    @stanislas1469 3 роки тому

    i think he said a few years ago (i cant find the link sorry ) that him and kim were performance artists. He also tweeted about Andy Kaufman and Joseph Beuys a few times.

  • @Goldenxomedy
    @Goldenxomedy 3 роки тому

    Kanye has done this before like with yeezy season 3 that was the life of Pablos listening party as well that was amazing too

  • @Alexanderthetitan
    @Alexanderthetitan 3 роки тому +1

    Learning a lot from you.

  • @TheDNAGroup
    @TheDNAGroup 3 роки тому +3

    Bingo! Who else can so casually, and effectively transform the whole concept of "concert" itself? And make bloody live performance art! the new concert. #Genius # God #Brethren

  • @ltigre86
    @ltigre86 3 роки тому +2

    i think demna gvasalia contributed a large part of the performance since he directed it

  • @oxiary
    @oxiary 3 роки тому +1

    LOVE THIS CONTENT

  • @jacksonisonline2049
    @jacksonisonline2049 3 роки тому

    wonderful video!

  • @donmays
    @donmays 3 роки тому +8

    was literally telling my girl this about the livestream before the show that it was performance art but bc ye is a rapper people wouldn’t recognize it as such unfortunately rap fans are so two dimensional but there’s a lot more to the art form and ye has always been in the forefront of letting that be known! Nice video, thank you !

  • @MaxKbro
    @MaxKbro 3 роки тому

    You need to put your Patron into the video descriptions! Can’t find the link to support you

  • @Alejandro.4tp
    @Alejandro.4tp 3 роки тому

    thank you

  • @niko1490
    @niko1490 3 роки тому +2

    What do you think of the theory he's performing Dantes Divine Comedy? The first show was representing hell, the second was purgatory with his ascension to heaven in the end. Now with the rumors of a possible stadium change, I'm thinking: maybe he's going to LA where his mother died, to give us the third show in heaven.

    • @johanmarco4119
      @johanmarco4119 3 роки тому

      would be a sick concept, however, apparently, it was cap that they were moving stadiums.

    • @pjetrs
      @pjetrs 3 роки тому +1

      I just posted the same thing and then I saw your comment! Interesting to see other people thought of this as well. It really connects to the Yeezus tour narrative and it would fit in the biblical narrative as well. I also noticed the changing colour tones: during the first performance he was all red in a white surrounding (devilish/not sane, in a sane environment), the second one he is obviously in some hellish/purgatory place (red lights, dark), surrounded by faceless demons. Only at the end he ascends to the light. He also seems to have no real posessions anymore except for himself, his music (the sheets with rhymes/notes?) and his faith in god. Lonely in his prison cell..

    • @niko1490
      @niko1490 3 роки тому

      @@pjetrs Yes, exactly! And I'm sure the changing colours have to mean something as Kanye is in general very thoughtful of the colour palette he uses for his projects.

  • @tonydeng7465
    @tonydeng7465 3 роки тому +3

    Excellent review, man. Is there any way I can get in touch with you? This video has inspired me, and I'd love to be able to open a dialogue with you regarding kanye the Artist. I feel a connection with you as a fellow "academic" interested in popular culture haha

  • @lamarr2k
    @lamarr2k Рік тому

    VERY IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT AND UNDERSTAND IT'S PURPOSE. *****Did U know the sound of ... "Donda...Donda... Donda" was the last sounds of his Mothers HeartBeat Rhythm before she Passed*****

  • @alexgratzaTV
    @alexgratzaTV 3 роки тому +2

    the same way you described A white kanye, i think a white the weeknd would 100% be considered a Pop Artist, never an RnB artist