Smallville - Alternate Scenes-Pilot - Different Martha Kent

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • Features Cynthia Ettinger as Martha Kent, before Annette O'Toole joined the cast. You also see a different Kent kitchen.

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  • @Moviefan2k4
    @Moviefan2k4 9 років тому +167

    I remember speaking to John Schneider about Cynthia Ettinger at a convention last year; he was very surprised I even knew about it. I asked him about the differences, working with her and Annette O'Toole. He said that Cynthia was much more of what Alfred Gough & Miles Millar originally had in mind: a "blonde farmgirl" type, who was more likely to be swayed upon learning about Clark's abilities. He said it was purely his opinion, that WB probably wanted Martha to be more of a pillar in the Kent family, as a contrast to Jonathan's emotional side. He described Annette's portrayal as being more resolute around the strange occurrences, that would affect the family and the farm.

    • @Supernaturlisch
      @Supernaturlisch 8 років тому +8

      +Moviefan2k4 Thank you for sharing!

    • @marcellocapone4925
      @marcellocapone4925 7 років тому +16

      Thanks for sharing. I for one think they picked the right one. Watching this other actress now and she looks out of place.

    • @banksconsilio1002
      @banksconsilio1002 7 років тому

      KaraLVRogueLZ

    • @jeffbrown8117
      @jeffbrown8117 6 років тому +20

      Marcello Capone she seems out of place because we watched Annette for so long. It’s hard to look at it subjectively.
      I do agree that Annette is the better actress though. The delivery here (especially with the “he didn’t find us, we found him” line) is just all wrong.

    • @jeffbrown8117
      @jeffbrown8117 6 років тому +3

      Chris Rowe Jesse Eisenberg was playing A young Lex. After prison he became the Lex we all know and love. People don’t tend to like change. I dig change. I’m tired of the same old same old. Probably why I’m in the minority when it comes to the BvS. 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @jbreshaire
    @jbreshaire 13 років тому +47

    As beautiful as Cynthia Ettinger was, Annette O'Toole was best suited for the role as an actress and her her Superman movie connection. She helped make Smallville's pilot and series classic Americana!

  • @purepwnge1
    @purepwnge1 11 років тому +58

    she doesn't seem as sincere as Annette did

  • @Luckiegurll
    @Luckiegurll 15 років тому +29

    It's weird watching this.... I'm so glad Annette O'Toole was cast!

  • @HoustonSoto
    @HoustonSoto 14 років тому +46

    Cynthia works as your average WB/CW mom-of-a-teenager... but not as the mom to the greatest superhero of all time... Annette O'Toole=Martha Kent! She and John Schneider (for me) are the definitive Ma and Pa Kent.

  • @googleuser3665
    @googleuser3665 6 років тому +11

    So glad they went with Annette!

  • @MoniqueFromPlymouth
    @MoniqueFromPlymouth 4 роки тому +24

    To be fair to Cynthia Ettinger, the Smallville version of Martha Kent's background was that she's a city girl born in Metropolis who chose to be a farmer's wife. Jonathan and Martha had first met in college at Metropolis University. Given that info, when you simply look at Cynthia in these scenes, it seems reasonable.

  • @tsega60
    @tsega60 14 років тому +58

    ...atleast John schneider got to kiss both women....good for him

  • @therealkingdyl
    @therealkingdyl 11 років тому +37

    watching this feels like Bizarro Clark world...

  • @paulbrown7933
    @paulbrown7933 2 роки тому +3

    Holy moly 😳 Cynthia was gorgeous 😍. WOWWWWWWWW!

  • @sonaolej2179
    @sonaolej2179 11 місяців тому +5

    Annette plays it with great energy and sincerity. The chemistry between her and John is great from the first part. That moment in the car just proves how great the marital chemistry is between Johnathan and Martha. Annette and John are more natural and more contact, also emotions are more intense . Cynthie is an excellent and beautiful actress, but Annette is much better as Martha from the first moment.

  • @duckmurai
    @duckmurai Рік тому +9

    I can imagine the pressure John and Tom and the other cast to re-shoot these scenes.

  • @eleanorwhalley7483
    @eleanorwhalley7483 10 років тому +29

    It's so funny, you can see the bones of the series in there, but none of it is quite right yet! :) Even Tom Welling and the act who plays Jonathan haven't got the characters yet! hehe so cool to see it though !

    • @nakyer
      @nakyer 9 років тому +4

      Eleanor Whalley Almost all the scenes in the unaired pilot were used in the aired version. What are you talking about?

    • @eleanorwhalley7483
      @eleanorwhalley7483 9 років тому +8

      nakyer I simply meant that they way they play their parts is slightly different you know because of a different martha :)

    • @nakyer
      @nakyer 9 років тому +4

      Eleanor Whalley
      I don't know how you can say that. There were actually very few scenes with Martha. The majority of the scenes in the two pilot versions are identical, acting wise. They're the very same scenes.
      All that was done for the aired pilot was the few minutes here and there showing Martha were re-filmed with Annette.

  • @hellboundsweet
    @hellboundsweet 16 років тому +19

    Yeah, their second choice was definitely a better choice. And did you notice how different the ship looks? In the show, all the Kryptonian stuff is metallic and shining and looks advanced and cool. This ship looked like it belonged to the teenage mutant ninja turtles before Clark got hold of it.

  • @TokyoClubPro
    @TokyoClubPro 12 років тому +21

    I'm sure that in other productions Cynthia was a decent actress, but in these shots she is completely bland, there is no motherly, wholesome, farmer's wife in her portate of Martha Kent. Annette was the better selection. Also it was interesting seeing the Tom Welling and Jonathan Shynder acting differently than what I'm used to in the TV seires. Also the added coloring and lighting of the camera shots weren't there so this was an interesting experiance.

  • @beautifulsoul3281
    @beautifulsoul3281 7 років тому +34

    Annette much better

  • @Wolf_in_a_Cup
    @Wolf_in_a_Cup 6 років тому +16

    its so hard to see someone else as Martha for me having watched Annette have the role for so long xD idk, but I feel as tho she gave alot to the show. similarly I find it hard to see anyone newer as Clark instead of Tom xD

  • @shadowflower93
    @shadowflower93 11 років тому +9

    The theme music sounds like an 80's soap opera O_O

  • @Eric_1991
    @Eric_1991 2 роки тому +3

    I’ve always been curious about this after hearing Annette O’Toole wasn’t the original Martha. Thanks for sharing

  • @Spike-Prime
    @Spike-Prime 10 років тому +49

    Haha, yeah, I remember I watched the whole unaired episode, and aside from the opening asteroids being far shittier CGI (obviously since it was never meant to be aired), I thought to myself "This looks like exactly the same thing as the actual first episode…" Then I saw the flower shop and I was like "Holy crap, MARTHA?!"
    I'm glad they went with Anette O'toole over this lady, she seems a lot more warm as a person, plus she was Lana in one of the Chris Reeve Superman movies, a neat little reference… even if that particular one sucked.

    • @hollyhastings2172
      @hollyhastings2172 9 років тому +5

      I agree with you in that Annette was always a warmer Martha.
      Where did you find the unaired pilot? I can't find it anywhere

    • @Spike-Prime
      @Spike-Prime 9 років тому +1

      Holly Hastings Originally, I went to a site called watchseries.it, and it was episode 0. Unfortunately, that site may not work for you because several internet providers haven now blocked that website, because of copyright law (which, to be fair, it is illegally sending people to pirated series').

    • @hollyhastings2172
      @hollyhastings2172 9 років тому

      Okay :) Thanks so much!

    • @Spike-Prime
      @Spike-Prime 9 років тому

      Holly Hastings It might still work, depending who provides your internet. Though be warned, there are some sites it sends you to that have dangerous ads that will give you a virus if you click on them, in particular one that says it wants to give you the latest flashplayer, but it's fake so just get rid of it. Or better yet, get a reliable adblocker if you don't have one :)

    • @pattimcb31
      @pattimcb31 8 років тому

      where can I see the unaired pilot?

  • @Petpatrol2
    @Petpatrol2 16 років тому +12

    Wow! That is so weird to see the same scene with someone else. It's like one of those pictures where one detail is edited out and you have to figure out why the picture doesn't make sense.
    On one hand, yes, it looks really bad seeing her play Martha Kent, on the other hand, if it were here that was on the show for 8 seasons straight and the pilot footage would be of Miss Otoole I bet we would be saying the same things about her

  • @wootar16
    @wootar16 14 років тому +3

    EVERYTHING IS SO DIFFERENT! I like the way it is now SO much better

  • @thegypsygamer423
    @thegypsygamer423 3 роки тому +4

    Any1 watching in 2021? No, okay! Carry on

  • @Superhappeefun
    @Superhappeefun 15 років тому +3

    This lady doesn't act, she just sits there. No disrespect, I just love Annette O'toole.

  • @thevoiceoftheseagull7413
    @thevoiceoftheseagull7413 Рік тому +2

    I didn't know about the existence of this double version of the Pilot but I just have to say I'm happy that Annette O'Toole was cast to play Clark's Mom.
    I didn't like this actress at first glance. She's not suited to play Clark's Mom. Instead, she immediately gave me the impression of someone who falls in love with her beautiful and young adopted son rather than loving him with motherly love!!!
    I don't even see real acting from her, she's cold, aloof. I see no sweetness in her, no emotional transport, no passion, all qualities that Annette has instead.
    For me Annette is the best Clark's Mom.
    Thank you for posting this rare video because I loved seeing Tom acting in this alternate scenes also played by him perfectly, and John Schneider for me the best Clark's Dad.

  • @neverlovedaboy
    @neverlovedaboy 16 років тому +4

    Oh yah Annette O'Toole is way better. She just has Mama Kent written all over her. Annette has better chemistry with everyone and a way better actress and dare I say she is way way way HOTTER! The show wouldn't have made it with this chick good thing they got Annette.

  • @ClarkSuperboy
    @ClarkSuperboy 16 років тому +3

    That's a surprise! Didn't know that! But even though Cynthia Ettinger looks so sweet and beautiful, Annette O'Toole was the perfect choice to play Martha Kent (future Superman mom).
    It's obvious that there is much more chemistry between her and Tom Welling and Clark needed a warm, reassuring and strong mom.
    Annette is a brilliant actress, has perfect diction and has the tattoo of the Man of Steel since she played Lana in "Superman III".
    Thank you 4 sharing, I enjoyed waching.

  • @mattd501
    @mattd501 2 роки тому +1

    End of The Innocence!! Had no idea they considered this for the score, wow this was amazing!!

  • @letumexamor
    @letumexamor 10 років тому +8

    The music playing when Martha makes her "wish" is from the movie Contact...

    • @abnarain8359
      @abnarain8359 8 років тому

      +letumexamor Oh. My. God. It is.

  • @windsongmoonchild6400
    @windsongmoonchild6400 4 роки тому +32

    Annette has more on screen charisma and her acting is more memorable. This actress in this unaired pilot feels amateur and generic. I can't imagine how she's going to act in later episodes of the series has she became the permanent face of Martha Kent. This lady's acting is meh, while Annette's seems more expressive.

  • @chananabips7009
    @chananabips7009 Рік тому +3

    This and Clark having a skateboard is so weird 🤣
    Like istg they must've thought they'd try Clark being a skater at first, except it only hung on his backpack the whole time and never used it once and that skateboard was never seen again.

  • @clarkconner
    @clarkconner 7 років тому +19

    The spaceship is even different

    • @aliciaborth3016
      @aliciaborth3016 4 роки тому +1

      I am glad they changed it. It does look more alien than the smooth ship, but the smooth ship they used later seemed more advanced.

  • @silver2therescue1
    @silver2therescue1 4 місяці тому +1

    Annette O'Toole is definitely the right choice. Even the way Tom and John deliver their lines is better in the final version.

  • @mahmudaakterjahan5682
    @mahmudaakterjahan5682 3 роки тому +2

    The house looks nice.....But I am glad that the choose the right martha :)

  • @Mystery1448
    @Mystery1448 5 років тому +7

    Mybe this is a different Smallville universe crisis on infinite earths 🤔🤔🤔😉

    • @michaelmccarthy579
      @michaelmccarthy579 3 роки тому

      @Cer El I tip my imaginary fedora to you. That was good. 😂

  • @CptColumbo
    @CptColumbo  16 років тому +4

    A friend obtained a tape of the Pilot and knowing what a Superman-fan I am, gave me a copy.

  • @lakeishadallas4971
    @lakeishadallas4971 7 років тому +15

    im glad they went with annette because this just seems boring and she bought life to the kent farm

  • @JeremysRants
    @JeremysRants 13 років тому +9

    Looks more like clarks older sister then mom

  • @whyisblue923taken
    @whyisblue923taken 2 роки тому +6

    Ettinger is good for a city Martha who is halfway between Metropolis and Smallville. She has more of a young city wife in the country vibe to her. O'Toole has more of a motherly countrywoman vibe. Ultimately, Martha's character is closer to the vibe O'Toole has and it looks like some of the rewrites were influenced by O'Toole's presence. Even O'Toole's cadence for the same lines have a softer motherly quality, which makes us feel like Martha is Clark's mother.

  • @jukio02
    @jukio02 13 років тому +5

    wow, this show could have been COMPLETELY different if they went with her instead

  • @jasonbeetham7421
    @jasonbeetham7421 6 років тому +1

    i am with a lot of the comments I have read I am also glad they went with Annette O'Toole to play Martha not to discredit the work that Cynthia Ettinger put in to play Martha but what I think works more fitting for Annette O'Toole to play Martha is knowing that she was made for a superman role as she was the original lana in the Christopher reeves movies. so its nice for us fans to be able to have that little piece of comic history bond and explore a new more mature role and has given Annette O'Toole to give a more performance and air time then she had in the movies.

  • @NireR89
    @NireR89 11 років тому +2

    So glad they got Annette for this instead. It just wouldn't be the same, this Martha doesn't even fit with what you think Martha Kent to look and be like. Annette O'Toole FTW!!

  • @Epicurus341
    @Epicurus341 13 років тому +1

    A couple of years later she got a lead role in Carnivàle and turned out to be quite excellent in it.

  • @DisneyFan16672
    @DisneyFan16672 11 років тому +1

    Funny (and almost fitting) to open this alternate pilot with the opening chords of Don Henley's 1980's hit "End of the Innocence". :)

  • @Solitaryman38
    @Solitaryman38 3 роки тому +3

    I prefer Annette to be honest. She nailed it.

  • @andrejapaljevec7538
    @andrejapaljevec7538 6 років тому +3

    I remember being upset cause Johnatan wouldnt let Clark have that truck. it felt little too harsh ;))

  • @somebuddyX
    @somebuddyX 13 років тому +1

    Your damn right, nell that's a surprise!

  • @thestimp2
    @thestimp2 12 років тому +6

    She doesnt look weathered enough to be a farmers wife. No way.

    • @jeffbrown8117
      @jeffbrown8117 6 років тому

      thestimp neither did Annette O’Toole...

  • @LanaLuthor
    @LanaLuthor 16 років тому +1

    Thanks for sharing

  • @odysseusstallings5535
    @odysseusstallings5535 3 роки тому +2

    In my own head canon the mister miracle version of Superman in the TV show's continuity is from the unaired pilot universe

  • @SpyderXY
    @SpyderXY 12 років тому +1

    Thank goodness...

  • @Jameydboi
    @Jameydboi 11 років тому +4

    im not sure, But doesnt His Ship Look Different?

  • @Yahiko25
    @Yahiko25 12 років тому +2

    I am go glad that Annette was cast of Martha instead of Cynthia. But if they want to have a little irony they could have cast Cynthia as Martha Kent's evil sister for just one episode.

  • @jukio02
    @jukio02 13 років тому +2

    @jukio02 the truck also looks different, am i right?

  • @alansauceda2408
    @alansauceda2408 3 роки тому +1

    Great scott

  • @JoelBrandonMedia
    @JoelBrandonMedia 10 років тому +2

    Temp music from Alan Silvestri's score to Contact

  • @alexmotts
    @alexmotts 4 роки тому +2

    Nothing against this martha kent. But she just didnt fit. I cam see why they changed her to annette Otoole. She def portrays a better version of martha kent. Also better on screan chemistry. She annette def was a better actress. Whoever made that call for the series. Nice job.

  • @xybervox
    @xybervox 2 роки тому +3

    Cynthia Ettinger works very well. I can totally see her working in the long-term. Sucks to be in the part and then not, losing out on what would have set her up for life financially, but it's usually nothing personal. The vision simply changed and a cog in the machine was replaced. If you're an actor, you have to realize that people are just meat puppets for the story being told (the picture being painted) and it has nothing to do with you as a person or even what you could or couldn't have done.

  • @michaelmccarthy579
    @michaelmccarthy579 3 роки тому +3

    For everyone goin she's terrible or Annette is soooo much better. You have to think. This is basically the episode that determines if the show even becomes the show, and if she stayed she may have become better when the show was picked up. Plus you're comparing her to somebody you already know mostly AS Smallville's Martha Kent. It's a bit unfair. I think Martha was great in this series, but I'm not so quick to dismiss someone just because of a pilot episode.

  • @thebadgamer1967
    @thebadgamer1967 4 роки тому +1

    This reminds of the unaired pilot of buffy the vampire slayer with a different actress playing willow, who like this actress was completely wrong for the role, Annette brought charm and warmth to the character.

  • @DaSupermanOf1990
    @DaSupermanOf1990 Рік тому +1

    This feels like a screen test

  • @leigh-anjohnson
    @leigh-anjohnson 3 роки тому +2

    Clark "A car hit me and I survived."
    Also Clark "I want to be normal."
    So...you wanted the car to kill you???

  • @StuartTheGamerNerd
    @StuartTheGamerNerd 11 років тому +1

    let alone look close to the same age has Jonathan Kent >.

  • @TyWRothermal
    @TyWRothermal 12 років тому +5

    before annette was martha kent she was lana lang in Superman 3

  • @keinlanz
    @keinlanz 6 років тому +3

    Oh Clark, calling people who don't play football losers. And we wonder why bullying is a problem.

  • @CptColumbo
    @CptColumbo  16 років тому +2

    Yes, but except for these scenes it's exactly like the one that was shown on WB.

  • @arnoldodelahoz133
    @arnoldodelahoz133 7 років тому +5

    She does good too!

  • @Shaftell
    @Shaftell 14 років тому +1

    This is so funny hehehe, young clark

  • @JessPeachee
    @JessPeachee 12 років тому +1

    bizarre, if i didn't watch this i wouldn't have guessed.

  • @edenramos9686
    @edenramos9686 3 місяці тому

    I like it

  • @qa003qa003
    @qa003qa003 6 років тому +1

    虽然不是同一个演员 但是看得我又想重温了

  • @Gamegeek108
    @Gamegeek108 14 років тому +1

    Didnt they change the truck to blue for the final cut of the pilot?

  • @benjamintriplett3
    @benjamintriplett3 8 місяців тому +1

    Annette O'Toole had better emotional range. She and John were believable as a couple, this Martha Kent seems like she should be his sister instead of his wife.

  • @SqueegyBeckinheim
    @SqueegyBeckinheim 15 років тому +1

    i think the blond hair and just the over all look of this character doesn't scream wholesome, farmer's wife. Very glad they replaced her for Annette

  • @Migz2682
    @Migz2682 11 років тому +8

    she doesnt fit. maybe cuz we are used to Annette, but Cynthia doesn't work as Clark Kent's Earth mother

  • @Jameydboi
    @Jameydboi 11 років тому +1

    yeah i just looked and They Deffinatly changed the Ships

  • @CptColumbo
    @CptColumbo  16 років тому +1

    She works on the show

  • @DavidZMH
    @DavidZMH 15 років тому +1

    where's you get the footage of this clip?

  • @GodessSiri
    @GodessSiri 16 років тому +1

    I see why they replaced her. No offence to the actress but I just wasn't feeling it. There was zero chemistry with Tom and, most importantly, with John You have the buy the Kents as the perfect parents, a couple who are crazy in love with each other and want nothing more than a family together. John and Annette sparkle together - they do that wordless communication thing that all the best couples do. When you see them in the first scene of the pilot you totaly buy it.

  • @cypal
    @cypal 14 років тому +1

    wow where did you find this?

  • @tyrox606
    @tyrox606 11 років тому +1

    Anyone know the name of the song in the scene where Clarke enters Lex Luthors castle at 33:53

  • @CptColumbo
    @CptColumbo  16 років тому +3

    I think you misunderstood. I know someone else who worked on the show.

  • @pepperpeterpiperpickled9805
    @pepperpeterpiperpickled9805 2 роки тому +2

    Cynthia doesnt have the motherly archetype to her, she sounds too metropolitan

  • @taliaheathermcconachy
    @taliaheathermcconachy 14 років тому +1

    Annette O'Toole is sooooooo much better

  • @luckyjasonfan
    @luckyjasonfan 13 років тому +1

    I like her... she's good with Clark :)

  • @jackson3rdhotmail
    @jackson3rdhotmail 11 років тому +1

    wow....

  • @JeremiahEcks777
    @JeremiahEcks777 2 роки тому +1

    The difference between Ettinger and O'Toole is seen on the line "Your Father has them." In this version, Ettinger doesn't really give much away about how she feels. With O'Toole, you get the dual feeling of her being annoyed at Clark AND Jonathan, which is totally on point for how she feels conflicted at this point.
    It's impossible to know how Ettinger would have made this so it's unfair to compare, and she's clearly a good actress, but that line delivery for that bit showed me Ettinger needed a bit more time to fully understand Martha's relationship nuances. O'Toole felt totally authentic immediately however.

  • @houseshead
    @houseshead 16 років тому

    I don't know who Cynthia Ettinger is but i can't even imagine her as Martha in the later seasons. Annette all the way!

  • @egb50000
    @egb50000 Рік тому +1

    I think Cynthia would have been a good Martha for a child or infant Clark Kent, but not for a teenage Clark Kent. She looks more like his older sister than a mother here.

  • @tjcarr8097
    @tjcarr8097 3 роки тому +1

    I’ve got nothing against the other actress. I just think Annette added more weight to the role

  • @starlighter93
    @starlighter93 2 роки тому

    I don't know why but when I look at Cynthia Ettinger I get the feeling as if she plays someone who acts nice but in truth is a manipulative witch.

  • @pattimcb31
    @pattimcb31 Рік тому

    Where can I see the entire episode?

    • @CptColumbo
      @CptColumbo  Рік тому

      Watch the first episode of the series. It's exactly the same, except for these scenes.

  • @gatorprincess8
    @gatorprincess8 14 років тому +1

    Annette is so Martha Kent, this lady doesn't have any chemistry with Tom or John.

  • @jackwhite7317
    @jackwhite7317 7 років тому +1

    SHE IS EFFING SMOKING HOT!

  • @mileycyrusfan197
    @mileycyrusfan197 13 років тому

    omg THIS is what it's like with cynthia in it, before they put in annette??

  • @shimrrajamaane4072
    @shimrrajamaane4072 2 роки тому

    Maybe is a different earth

  • @nb6918
    @nb6918 Рік тому

    Cynthia would be too hot to be Clark's mom. I'm glad it worked out.

  • @chakenbacon
    @chakenbacon 2 роки тому

    After watching this I’m SOOO glad they went with Annette O’ Tool. She did a much better job and Cynthia would’ve honestly distracted the hell out of me. She looks too young to be Clark’s mother.

  • @luckyjasonfan
    @luckyjasonfan 4 роки тому +1

    "I'd give anything to be Normal" 🤔🤔😏😏 Mhmmm. Now, he is.
    I like this Martha. She's got great chemistry with John and Tom. ☺

  • @francesmagno360
    @francesmagno360 2 роки тому

    😮