Ford Mustang Shootout! 1965 vs 1969 Mustang Historic racer track test and comparison.
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- We test two spectacular historic racing Ford Mustangs from the Smiths Speedworks and Vintage Racing Services team at Winton Motor Raceway Australia. We'll test and compare to see who comes out on top, the early model with its lighter kerb weight and screaming 8000rpm plus 289 or the big brutal 351 Windsor powered 69 Fastback heavyweight. Both have great assets that make them successful race cars but which comes out on top! Our host and long time race driver Glenn Everitt is about to find out!
Today's Group Nc Historic Touring Car motorsport category emulates Australia's Improved Touring Car and Series Production Car categories of the 60s and 70s, of which also inherently includes American derived cars similar to those raced in the USA Trans-Am and Nascar series during the same period such as the Boss Mustang, Z28 Camaro and Ford Galaxie. The ever-popular Gulf Western Oil Touring Car Masters series also shares DNA with this category. These iconic days of racing graced our race tracks, setting a path for what is now our mainstream premier racing category hear in Australia known as Supercars, having stemmed from the original V8 Supercars Series created in the early 90s. The difference today is that the latter shares little with its production car counterparts, where back in these early days your could virtually walk into your local car dealership and buy what was raced.
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Passionate car guy and Master of Machines host Glenn Everitt has extensive experience in the Automotive Industry, as a high performance technician, auto mechanic and dyno tuner, including other industries such as auto restoration and auto detailing. He's a lifelong racer too, born into a motorsport family and starting with road racing from the age of 14, and also competing in Drag Racing to help promote his dyno shop for many years. He's also passionate about two wheels as well, having started out on dirt bikes, then moving to Sports bikes of all kinds.
The 289 is the best sounding engine ever. I am building a 1973 track days coupe using the KI KarKraft prints for modifications. I found a rust free Arizona body and will be my last hot rod.
What a GLORIOUS SOUND a well built FORD makes! DAMN!
Great sound a well built engine makes .....
I have been lucky enough to own a 65, 67 fastback and 70 fastback mustangs. That 289 that was rated at 271 HP was actually over 300 HP, a common practice back then was to under post HP on almost every car as to not scare people away, Boy have times changed. The 351C that someone put into the 67 was a dream and this is a motor that should have been made just for this car to be honest. The 351 C is a midrange beast and she just wants to run! Loads of HP and torque where ever you need it, upgrade over the old Y block 390. The 428 Cobra that was in the 70 ... uhm ... scary! meanest motor I have ever had the pleasure to drive even if it's not the fastest or strongest it was WILD! The one that was the most fun for me to drive? Drag it was the 70, left turn only the 67 and 70, road course 65 and 67 ( the smaller V8's make a huge difference here in handling ) Daily driver? that would be the 65 for the better gas mileage and those stop light to stop light drags. from 0-60 the 65 is hands down the fastest being so light.
Love seeing my Aussie brothers share my love of the 60s Mustangs! The sound of those 289s never get old and you’ve done a great job wheeling those babies around. Cheers from the USA 🇺🇸🇦🇺
In the 60s when I was a teenager I would go out to Warwick Farm and watch "Uncle" Norm Beechey and Big Pete Geoghegan and later Bob Jane race their mustangs and the memories of them still give me thrills.Norm was not only part of the Neptune Racing Team along with Jim McKeown (Lotus Cortina) and Peter Manton (Morris Cooper S) he was also the first person in the World to win a Touring Car Race in a Mustang.They were heady days and many times they were support races for the Tasman Series when the F1 works teams would come down here from Europe and race in their off season so I got to see the greats like Jim Clarke,Jack Brabham,Jackie Stewart,Pierce Courage etc along with our own stars such as Leo Geoghegan,Kevin Bartlett,Spencer Martin to name but a few.I cherish those memories and although I am a septuagenarian now I still have a "need for speed" which I get mainly from motor bike racing,oddly after loving the car racing so much in my younger days it doesn't tickle my fancy now and I find the F1 racing quite boring and as for the cars they are only recognisable as cars because they still have 4 wheels and no longer do the drivers need the dexterity of a River Dancer to work the pedals to drive them fast and computer skills are a necessary asset and not mechanical nous which once upon a time was a must,Anyway that's my little rant and I hope there are still people who read this that are old enough to get a kick out of what I've had to say and maybe bring back some good memories for them.
Wow, it's so weird to see the steering wheel of the 65 on the wrong side of the car....even more weird seein dude shift with his left hand....WOW, that 289 makes a glorious noise, don't it?! ....🤘🏻👊🏻🇺🇸
I once owned (1977-1980) a '66 Shelby GT-350 which had been modified. It's 289 was pulling 400 HP. It, too, had the Ford toploader 4-speed and 9-inch rear end. Had a four-point roll bar, all fiberglass front end. Was light and fast. I bought it for $4k and sold it for $5K after driving the hell out of it on the street for four years. The cars were just beginning to become valuable at that time.
Oh, and its engine sounded much like this 65. I was running two 460-Holley 4-barrels on a medium hi-rise intake.
Glenn, both the 65 and 69 have the same wheelbase 108". The 289 is underated, great little V8 that loves to rev. Keep up the good work.
Thanks mate, yes, I had my wires crossed thinking the 69 was the same platform as our XW - XY Falcons, running on 111". Got XY's on the brain! lol!. I agree, and I'm a huge fan of the 289, great little engine, very robust too.
had one in a 70 mavrick grabber 4 speed maybe 365 390 hp too much and i wont talk about papas 390 56 crownvic scooter d ps i pass that same car comin home from work once a month sweet lub scooter d
I'm from the states. I'd love to know how you guys are punching that kind of horse power. I never dyno'd mine, I have a 40 over 289 roller rocker arms, REED Cam, electonic ignition, MSD 6AL, 650 Holley, 1985 302 diaphram clutch Tremec 5 speed. I modified the bell housing with a spacer on the fulcrum to the bell housing to use all the original Z bar and clutch linkage. Made a template from a four speed bell housing and picked up the holes on the Tremec Bell Housing. Alunimium drive shaft with a 8 inch traction loc 3:55.
I also in the 1980s did my own suspension modifications using factory parts. Shelby one inch drop, welded 1/4 inch plates to re enforce the coil spring saddles where they bolt up, kicked the upper control arm shaft rearward 1/8th of an inch for more caster, installed Maverick off set ball joint spindles adding more caster and disc breaks, export an monte carle braces, One inch front sway bar with hime joints, 11/16th Stam Bar rear sway bar with hime joints, 1968 Big block Mustang front coil springs with 1/3rd coil removed, Koni Shocks. All this achieved minimum shimming, level stance for bigger front tires, and is one fun street machine, and occasional track for fun. And the alignment guy let me sit in the car while he aligned it and adjusted the hime joints. I have always been a fan of the original car because of it's road racing ability. With the right gearing that third gear will just slide you through the S-turns. I have only gotten to drive on just one track, Road Atlanta. If you are not familiar, it is in the foot hills of the Appalachian Mountains. The track is like racing in the mountains, it is a blast.
Beautiful cars. Nice driving!
Didn’t know 289’s sounded so good!
whaaat do you ever mean wyatt hahaha
4.00 bore and 2.87 stroke, one of the most "over bored" engines in mass production (for the day), it lacked torque, but loved to rev and built RPM quickly.
8000rpm......yasssss
what ? where u from stranger ? 289s and 351 c motors are the best ever made .
Maybe you are used to those rice burner Japanese cars with a coffee can attached to the tailpipe.
Our family doctor drove an 86 mustang with 351 W having over 600 hp for years on street and it sounded very similar to this 69 racer when he opened exhaust dumps and throttle....truly an amazing sound!!
I wish my Doc would get into it, I’d love to build him a motor 🐾✌️🇺🇸
Had a '69 Mach 1 with a 351W and 4-speed back in the day. It didn't scream quite as loud as this one, but it sure was fun. This one had to have been a complete BLAST!
I just love them! The sound, the power, the get up and go, the looks! And of top of that: hard driven!
So much more fun than modern 4-bangers. YES!!!
Awesome stuff Glenn. The sounds and your driving are brilliant!
Thanks mate! No music other than that of the engine too. ;-)
Great video! Loved the cars!
That 351w sounds almost exotic or like a voodoo hitting rev limiter, so beautiful 😍
that shit is exotic to me lol :)
It's a 289.
@@FairladyS130 both cars have the 289?
No the 69 is a 351 w . He says that in the intro to the 69.
O M G what a beautiful machine... my prayar it goes in a museum so your kids and grand kids can drive it !!!
It is difficult not to love cars that sound that good!!
Wow they both sound sooooooo goood! I could listen to that all day
I like my 65 Mustang 289/296-CI Comp cam crammed Top loader 4 speed Toy. 1965 and 1969 are my Fav's Mustangs!!
I wondered where you’d gone after having lost you off the TV, so happy I’ve found your channel again. Great vid. Looking forward to working my way through the rest of your excellent playlist. Much happier that you’re focussing on driving this things as they were meant to be driven.
The 65 mustang was a true pony car. The 67 was longer, wider, and heavier. The 69 was longer, wider, and heavier yet. In 71, when they changed body style again, longer, wider, and hevier were given new meaning.
Another superb Australian motor sports production. Don't stop doing what you guys do. And never try to copy anyone else. You are the best at getting race cars on camera. A similar US production would be full of bs cuts and editing that make no sense at all, and would fail to demonstrate the cars capabilities.
Thanks so much Greg! Being a genuine racer and enthusiast myself, it makes it so much easier to create the type of content that I’d like to see myself, without the influence of those in the production game that are not truly car enthusiasts.
Both of this 2 cars are soo antique!
What a glorious noise!
Sure is Tony! There's no music like it. :-)
Both of my Mustangs have a hole where the radio is supposed to be. When people get in or are checking out the car they often ask where the radio is. I just smile and say that the music comes from under the hood. Car guys get it.
My god the sound of that lil 289 at the hands of an Aussie. My favorite crazy men and drivers. Take it from this American, much respect and Thank You for this post
I've never even sat in a right-hand drive vehicle. I'm impressed how the driver switches from left-hand drive to right-hand drive and easily works the manual transmission on such a busy track. I am sure that I would throw it into reverse at the exact wrong time.
Awesome Cars and footage mate. Love it.
Damn that little 289 sounds heavenly in fact the Cobras that first gave notice to the European race circuit was the 289 until the 427COBRA came along to dominate.
Shelby won 1964 Le Mans GT Class with a 289 k-code essentially under the hood of the Daytona Coupe. In full Shelby race trim that 289 ci. was up around 400 HP.
Nothing like those engines, a symphony of V8 muscle!
Awesome Glenn 😃
Glad you liked it. :-)
very enjoyable to watch this
Good show 👍. Beautiful sounding V8s 👌
That '69 is one of the coolest cars I've ever seen. Would love to own one like that someday but pretty content with my Foxbody at the moment.
Love those 2 beasts
Thats one pissed off 289 😲💪
We dumped the Brits in our mega V8s in the 60s. They took to it like ducks in water. Still love the Uk guys muscling the 427 fords on the tracks. Fun as hell to watch
the secret to quick revs ? aluminum flywheels . but use a scattersheild , youl thank latter because u will still be alive - after your flywheel didnt make it .
Yes go the 289, hey glenn how about a 351 clevland or maybe michigan.... you never know 🙏.
Sounds amazing! What's the max rpm, 8k??
GOD BLESS AMERICAN MUSCLE
Well Glenn I thank you for the ride what a hoot
I am building a 76 MONZA at the Moment hope to run PIKES PEAK in it !!!!!
1:43 "I'm about to drive one of the angriest little early historic racing Mustangs in the country. Let's hear this little 289 scream!" It certainly did! What RPM where you hitting? Sounded like at least 7,000, maybe more. Love it!
Glad you liked it! I turned the 289 to 8000rpm. :-)
@@GlennEverittMasterofMachines Wow, that's really zinging! The guys running the big 427s thought 7,000 RPM was a lot back in the day. I guess it was for those engines.
you got that HOLEYYYYYYYYYY FUCKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!! look on ya face in the last mustange. LOL
Yep, it sure was an animal! Big dollar car too, so it was a big responsibility.
I guess since it's right hand drive, that means you drive on the wrong side of the road, right? Beautiful cars, beautiful sounds.
Ich liebe 🤟 Motorsport Sound Beschleunigung Vortrieb bei dem Motor ist Musik eine Sinfonie für die Ohren 🙉 und die Augen einfach nur geil
Would love to see the build on both engines.
It has the *F.O.R.D. Sound!*
Best America has to offer!
Lovely
Do the 1965 Mustang or 1969 Mustang have any mufflers or is that all open headers and exhaust with H pipe or X pipe? They both sound awesome!!!
It would be awesome to find out some of the suspension setup on that 65 Mustang or even the 1969.
The Aussies seem to have a much better appreciation for big American V8s than the Europeans.
We have a pretty big American car culture here in Aus. Turn up to a local car show and they're everywhere. :-)
Full surround sound. Love it mate. You look a bit like a young Dick Johnson.
Haha! It's the open face helmet I think! Agreed, they make such a nice sweet music these engines don't they. :-)
Race prepped 289 is the best sounding engine ever, IMO.
L-88 Lol
I have a 65 Mustang fb and am inspired to re-tool it back to track specs.
the 69 is not to the 305 cu. in. trans am limits but still a vicious little brat!..
289 is a awesome engine
That is an amazing car, gimme gimme
Wow, that's a go-kart track!
500hp 289??? I need answers
sort of looks like the scca trans am cars...exciting...the number 15 belonged to parnelli jones here in the USA
You're spot on Doug, our cars in this category here are based on the Aus Improved production series in the period of which featured some Trans Am spec cars out of the US. Allan Moffat's famous 69 here car direct from Kar Kraft. The 69 we tested in this video was a recent era build but in the colours of the famous Bud Moore Engineering cars run in the USA. :-)
@@GlennEverittMasterofMachines lots of history there thanks
@@dougvaldivia3395 , it was such a great era for sure. We have another awesome racing series in here in Aus called Touring Car Masters too, similar deal. On another note, did you see the 63 427 Lightweight Galaxie episode on our channel!
Had me at 8000rpm V8, best sound on the planet.
(1970 - 72) '66 Mustang story: Holes in the original muffler sounded better than stock Ford or Thrush muffler, 289 2v is not enough torque for proper burnout. 4 speed is 50 lbs + heavier than 3 speed transmission (twice) , more fun on hills and curves, one and two record on Lake Street, unleaded gas and valve job go together, air shocks raised rear even with front , those 2 years ended on a parked Cadillac and another teenage walking tourist but that is another story...
As Christian Bales says, "more of that please"
Hooooly shit that 351 sounded mean!
sweet 69 might have replicate in a 1/24 scale owh of course two mini me's for the slot track course i have a 1/24 scale track with cars that chassis that'll any body style keepin tires on the darn tings is the problem hahaha thanks scooter d
Need those hips to shoot the turns!
The 69 sounded like much more than only 18 more HP than the 65. It also acted like the tires are shot. Need new rubber and I bet it would behave much better.
It has 118hp more than the 289 and a lot more torque. Bigger cubes being 351.
I've got a 70 el grande coupe with a 351c
Trans-Am in the United states was limited to a 5-litre displacement - so not 351's allowed. Why doesn't he have a Boss 302 like he should? I can make 650 HP out of one of those pretty easily...
Our Improved Touring Car category here in Aus back in the day allowed bigger engine capacity and this is what the current day historic class allows. But, I believe he may be building a Boss 302 variant as we speak! :-)
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Sounds like those mustangs have 180 degree headers
if you aren't out of control, you are not driving fast enough.
Shes got more to give ..... More power than track!!!
Awesome cars, but the steering wheels are on the wrong side.
If you have never driven a 289 like this, you haven't drove.
😎👍👍👍
Uh is that a right hand drive Mustang?
Yep.we got a guy drivin erratically with a taillight out.im gonna go ahead an initiate a traffic stop here...see what else might be goin on with this bloke
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Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. 🙂
I'd take a 289 over displacement any day
I think Glenn had a orgasum.
lol!
Awesome video! I make simular content. Would be great to get your feedback
Like to see a 308 do that
69 based on sound lol
Yeah, them 10,000 rpm 289 engines was the typical of the day in 1965-66, eh? yeah, right.
This 289 didn't turn to 10,000 rpm? In the day more like 7,000 to 7500 rpm would have been common place in race trim.
@@GlennEverittMasterofMachines Mea culpa. Sounded like more than 7,000 to me. You're right, though - about 7,000rpm with C6FE heads (if you could lay your hands on them) back in the day.........
Mike Durhan , I turned the 289 to 8,000 rpm. With cylinder heads getting scarce these days this category allows the 65 -66 Mustangs to use a World products cast iron head, but no porting allowed.
@@GlennEverittMasterofMachines I hear you. I was speaking of "1966". I had a friend named Walt Hane who drove 5R103 (GT 350) for car owner Randy Blessing. I was going by what he told me it was like "back in the day". Their engine builder was a guy named Webster Benner (sp?). He was really good. All this took place in and around Lakeland, FLA, where Randy and Webster lived. They won the 1966 SCCA B/P national championship, I believe.
Personally, I didn't start vintage racing until 1991 with an A/S 1964 Falcon. I turned about 7200-7300 max with C6FE heads on a boss block with steel crank and Carillo rods. 289 c.i. Later I went to World Products Windsor heads, which were better, and Eagle rods in a Ford Racing boss block. I still kept it at around 7500 max., although the eagle rods were lighter and longer. I enjoyed your video.
my 289 with my first port job , lunati 518 lift , 9to1 comp. , dual plane single highrise hit 7,800 rpm with one extra addition . 30 thou.valve spring shims ! no more valve float .
Beautiful cars. The driver is a hack.
Keep your mouth closed (lips sealed) while you are driving on camera. you will look much more pleasing to the human eye, and thus, more credible as a driver..
I was only driving about 7/10ths, and as this was originally produced for TV they wanted commentary. UA-cam thankfully is a different ballgame.
Built Ford Tough.