OUAT - 4x07 'You can't love somebody you don't understand' [Emma & Snow Queen]
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Ep: 4x07 - "Snow Queen"
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"You were their only child, and they used you to break a curse. They're still using your powers... How many times have you saved them? How often have you felt more like a savoir, than their daughter? And all it takes is one tiny mistake, one accident, and you and your powers go from being their salvation, to their worst nightmare." I mean.... She's got a point...
Trueee
That’s exactly what happen smh.
No she doesn't have a point because her parents didn't have a choice if they kept her evil queen would kill Emma as a baby because they know that she is a savior and once the final battle begins she has to do it alone
So true because snow didn't like it when Emma powers out of control because she hurt her father it was an accident if that snow queen didn't make her powers out of control her parents would accept her for who she is but I'm glad she found her parents tho and Emma gave them a second chance
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what made her words so powerful was the fact that she has been more of a mother to Emma than Snow ever was. That should really have been explored more in this arc
Oh now I wish they had gone that way, a confrontation between Snow and the Snow queen !!
@@MlleRedVelvet that's 1 thing I hated about this season Jesus these writers we're retarded
Snow looked so terrified and angry when she yelled at Emma, it just breaks my heart :(
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No
Emma's face when Snow snapped at her broke my heart.
I am sad she ain’t a villain
@@Jevaughn-nd2od that's true emma isn't a villain that's y she yelled at emma she hurt her dad by accident
Some parents kinda make high pitch voices on accident
@@alexplays_roblox1k373 maybe but she did hurt her father that made snow angry and mad at the same time and snow saw fear in Emma eyes she tried to convince her to come back it's ok but since she yelled at Emma Emma ran away she tried to give up her magic since she hurt her son Henry and her father but Elsa stop her because it's part of who she is the savior
@@karlenamatejcek4677 If only they could of helped her with her magic sigh...
Hate to say it but a lot of what the Snow Queen said was true
it is true
beside the fact that Charming and Snow will never turn their back to their duaghters, yes
Sadly, I think you are right. I know Emma's family love her.....her parents and Henry and Hook. And I know Snow and David gave her up BECAUSE they loved her and wanted her to have her best chance. But in truth, she spent 28 years alone....being shuffled around and unwanted. She grew up without a family and now, she has these powers and the MOMENT she lost control, her parents did exactly what the Snow Queen said. They were afraid of her. It was only for a split second and they immediately regretted it, but she still saw the fear and it confirmed everything the Queen said and that's why she ran..
David isn’t afraid of Emma, but snow....
This is right before they did the Queens of Darkness and Emma turning dark storyline where Snow and David both see extremes of Emma's path before they take Lily from Maleficent as well. Where Snow sees a vision of Emma killing her if she turned dark, so I wonder if that played into her reaction as well?
“You should heed her words”
The one time gold cared about emma
He wasn't concerned about her.
Belle was right next to him + Henry is his grandson after all, he was looking out for them.
He didn’t care about her, he just knew that her powers were going to go out of control so he told them to leave her alone
I think he cared about both Emma and Belle. Buy that's just my opinion
I think he's always been fond of Emma, since S1. But that doesn't mean he cares, since he has no problem trying to kill emma to get what he wants and that's proven with the hat in later episodes.
The way Snow says “Emma!” She makes it sound like it was Emma’s fault when it was only an accident
Plus it would have hit Hook if David didnt push him out the way
Wouldn't most? She didn't mean to, it slipped. God why does everyone act like Snow is evil? Everyone makes mistakes, nobody is perfect.
@@thedusty194 that's true but she yelled at emma she hurt her dad but her mom didn't mean to yell at her since she saw fear in emma eyes
@@thedusty194 this wasn't a "mistake" she made a snap judgement blaming her daughter for something she didn't have any control over.
@@W0rkf4rt
She regretted it immediately
On a side note: That must have been so weird for Elsa, as that's virtually what happened to her when she "let it go" during her coronation.
I agree
RorySeizeTheDay true was just thinking 🤔 about ahh
The Snow Queen was easily the best villain on this show, she really hit a nerve with Emma but also ultimately helped her come to terms with what she sacrificed in becoming the Savior
"Villain"?
Wrong. My comment is late to post but let me enlight you.
The Snow Queen is really villain. She's just confused and blind.
I love how much Hook cares about Emma. He could have been hurt by the falling lamppost and all he cared about was making sure Emma was alright. He was the only one that went after her in this scene. That's love right there!!! #OTP. I also love how Charming pushes Killian out of the way. Guess he likes him after all!! #BROTP.
Honestly hook and her dad were the only ones who cared about her in this scene.
Ik it's been years but I just started the show again out of nostalgia and you can even see Hook reach for her without a doubt for a 2nd time too... :')
Both Killian and David went after her
I felt bad for Emma in this scene...but I just loved the part when Rumple protects Belle at 2:35 :)
And I love how in a few seconds - at 2:30 - he understands that Emma is afraid of herself and that she is about to lose control.
Him protecting belle is the cutest thing
what's really amazing in this scene is ingrid being so magically powerful yet resorting to more intimate, more psychological attacks on Emma. She manipulated Emma so well more than any other villain she has ever faced this far. Also, the cuffs didn't work on Ingrid from the very beginning because she is too powerful, yet she chose to stay behind bars to push Emma's buttons. I think Ingrid is on par with Cora and the Evil Queen in terms of villainy who are at the top of the list.
She told her the truth
@@robertorpg2132 That's the difference. Cora was severely deceptive and Regina was a glutton for control. Ingrid was more honest and self-reliant than them, as is the case for tragic villains like her compared to the power hungry villains like Cora, Regina, Rumple, etc. Some of the others were tragic, but their misfortunes didn't motivate them for solutions to their respective pain; not even Rumple could retain his hope to have his son back (but that changed later on, my point still stands).
I love how David and Killian sort of have this bromance now. They keep on saving and/or trying to save each other's asses.
Snow snapping at Emma just made everything all the more worse. I could understand a mother yelling a child whose done something wrong but Emma's a full grown woman and I think Snow handled it poorly.
Block B's Bee I agree, not to mention Emma was scared when it happened, especially after.
Block B's Bee Emma didn't do anything wrong so snow had no right to yell at her it was snow queens fault and completely an accident
It also didn't help when Snow actually told Emma she wanted to give her second child everything. Also she had the nerve to call herself Emma's mother when she and Charming made the decision of putting Emma through the wardrobe and she didn't even raise her, you can't truly call yourself a parent if you don't raise a child..
Emma warned them all to stay back and even Rumple said they should listen but they all kept coming closer to her anyway.
Yea and the scene before snow didnt let emma hold her baby because of her light powers
I love how at 2:38 Killian is too distracted staring at Emma, and you can see the concern in his eyes, that he didn't notice anything else around him, not even the falling lamp post that could have killed him. He loves her and she is his number one priority.
"You can't love somebody you don't understand" remember in season 2 Emma said to hook we understand each other? Yay aaahhhh!!!
it maybe me but I dont blame Emma for David getting hurt.... he made the decision to push Hook out of the way and thats how he got hurt... he could have yelled to Hook to move but he chose to physically push him out of the way... and Emma couldnt control what she did... so instead of snapping at Emma and making her feel like she did something bad, Snow should have shown more compassion to her...
It was an impulse reaction. After Snow saw the fearful reaction on Emma's face, she tried to smooth it over by saying, "Emma….wait!" And when they were at the apartment to regroup, she recognized how she made Emma feel.
Nikka Rose I Applause to you --- you are one in few that i see understand this scene because that's what i see happened and some of these comments here fail to see that, they just quickly jumping on Snow case and dont understand what they're watching
THANK YOU!!! I am now trying to find any clues of ways to KILL MARY MARGRET!!!
Allourlife I may not have liked how she reacted but I dont want her dead
It's Hook's fault he went to grab her but he should've stayed back his dumb ass caused this like he does everything else
The snow queens face when emma put a whole in the stations wall😂😂.
You people don't get it
She wasn't trying to manipulate Emma.
She was being brutally honest to her.
This is a case of truth is stranger than fiction.
Nobody wants to hear the truth...because it might be a bitter pill to swallow
Secondly,she is speaking from experience
I couldn't agree more.
Well she WAS manipulating her, she was just using the truth to do it LOL that's what made her such a strong a motivated woman. She truly believed everything she was saying. And wanted Emma to as well
The conversation makes me wonder how things would have turned out if Regina had met Emma when she was younger. As much as they clash, a key defining factor for both of them is how their parents basically used them to fulfill their own needs. Cora never let either of her daughters lead the lives they wanted and Emma's parents sent her to another world in the hopes that she would break a curse for a bunch of people she was too young to remember.
@Nakuru You can't manipulate someone with the truth
How can the truth be used to manipulate someone?
Either you are honest to someone or you are not
The snow queen was speaking from experience cuz her own sister called her a monster for accidentally killing one of their own sister, so she trapped her in the urn
HER OWN SISTER DID THAT
So no, she wasn't manipulating her
Wish they'd explored the snow queen and Emma more. Not only is Elizabeth Mitchell amazing in the role but the snow queen/Elsa storyline was the best once upon a time had to offer since season 1. The writing felt creative and refreshing for a change. Emma's past was explored and they could have done all the later dark Emma stuff through the snow queen. Really a missed oppurtunity
Another missed opportunity is the end of season 4 idk if you remember but when Emma ran up stairs and hugged Killian they fell on the bed they could’ve used that as a outlet of them having sex obviously not showing it, when Emma sacrificed herself for Regina and became the dark swan and went to Camelot and when she was super sick in the show instead of them saying it’s because of dark magic being in her it was really because she was pregnant, and which is why she didn’t allow hook to die because she knew she couldn’t be a mother alone same as she felt with Henry, especially if she knew she could’ve saved him. Then when she went into the underworld to save hook and when hook said to her that she had to leave him behind that’s when she could’ve told him she was pregnant and she needed him ugh SUCH AN MISSED OPPORTUNITY! They needed us in that writing team lol because then we could’ve seen pregnant Emma and hook being a dad instead of a one second clip of them holding a baby at the end of season 7 😒
@@NaiyasWorldwtf this would have been so good
I love how Gold was advocating for the side of “hey listen to her and go away”
He’s been in Emma’s situation more than once and he knows that having people around will only aggravate the issue
It’s a rare moment of rumplestiltskin knowing exactly what’s going on and handling it the right way
Everyone else made it worse by approaching her
And I really wish it was more than just one moment that only I noticed
Snow queen - “you can’t love someone you don’t understand”
Emma to Hook - “you and I we understand each other”
💗
I started tearing up when her mom said "Emma!" What kinda mother is she
+Rachel G me too, happens everytime makes me sad to think that the snow queen was right
+Rachel G Errr she almost killed her dad… like ik Snow wouldn't have been yelling but geez, what would you do if your kids if you ever have them almost kill their dad...
Me too 😭 I felt bad for emma
I would hate it +Rachel G
+Alassë Alcarin so he suppose to let hook get hurt? remember David is a "hero" saving people is what he does.
As for Emma warning them, yes she did but their her parents and they wanted to help so of course they were going to ignore her warning.
This scene honestly still breaks my heart, as do most vulnerable Emma scenes. She was so guarded and kept everything bottled up so much that, when things finally came out, they often exploded or rushed. Jennifer Morrison did a fantastic job as Emma Swan.
Am I the only one who loves it when Elsa says she can help?
Like Elsa knows exactly how Emma is feeling, the feeling of not being in control, the feeling of everyone looking at you like a monster, the feeling of trying not to hurt the ones you love
I love it too
The way Belle leaned into Rumple and he shielded her❤️🌹❤️
The really chilling thing about this is that Ingrid was right. With the setup of the new season, Snow is showing her true colors when it comes to her fears of her daughter.
Watching all these clips, I'm starting to think they were predicting the coming of The Dark Swan
Snow was so dumb here thinking emma did it on purpose when it was really an accident, she's a terrible mother. Then there's the fact that she's giving her baby all sorts of attention right in Emma's face, not thinking about her feelings
You cannot blame Snow for how she reacted, with her life and experience with magic I would not put it pass her. Yes, it was wrong to shout at Emma for something she cannot control, but understand that Snow lost everything because of magic; her mother, her father, her kingdom and then her first child was forced to live without them for twenty - eight years and now they are trapped in a town meant to originally be their prison. She is protective of Neal because she does not want magic to take him too. She is a wonderful mother with a daughter with magically ability that was the reason she was saved from the curse, to save them. She believed what she was doing was right and now she is rightfully afraid of MAGIC not Emma.
Snows reaction was natural... If you hurt your mum/dad your other parent would do the same most likely... Anyone would react the same tbh... And at least she tried to make up for her shouting straight after... It was just natural, somoene she loves got hurt, she shouted at the person who did it, it doesn't matter that it was an accident or that she cares about Emma too because it was just what her instinct was...
It's a fucking baby, Emma is a grown ass woman.
I know this is a three year old comment, but cringe doesn't have an expiration date.
Snow’s reaction was actually very realistic. It was in the moment, she’s human and her husband was just hurt, her first reaction was to start yelling. And just a second after she regretted yelling
Well to be fair it's not all Snow's fault either.
On the one hand Emma has a huge chip on her shoulder over being abandoned, which amplifies the entire 'parents got a new baby' psychology cliche.
On the other hand Snow has almost zero actual experience of real motherhood due to the curse.
Even if she hadn't given up Emma through the portal Regina probably would have separated them in Storybrooke out of spite.
Just as Regina did with Snow and Charming/David.
Even if Regina hadn't separated them Emma would never have grown beyond a baby in Storybrooke.
Point of fact it is never explained exactly why Henry ages in Storybrooke.
Did Regina make it that way, or did it simply happen because Henry was born in the world?
Looking at this video now I can't stop laughing at how rumplestilskin told them to heed her words
Painful this whole scene is just too sad awww and how Snow snap at emma ---typically a mother reaction when their child did something bad... (which obviously she didn't )
Anyone else see the glass at 1:51 just rolling across the table then immediately stop?
OMG YESSS!
I SAW THAT TO
Cooper Lavallée - Roberts I saw it just now when I rewatched this clip and now I see I wasn't alone lol. Magic cup
The Snow Queen was just an excellent villain. She knows Emma perfectly, and she knows exactly how to manipulate her.
She made a lot of good points. I mean Emma was shuffled from home to home, Snow and Charming gave her up and used her to break a curse, and it’s true when people see something that is different or that they don’t understand they fear it and what they fear they try and destroy.
What makes this even more interesting is that she and Emma went through similar things with their powers. When Ingrid made a mistake and accidentally killed her sister she was imprisoned, and when Emma accidentally caused a light to fall she was blamed and hated. And they referred to the Snow Queen as a monster when asking what the Snow Queen did which makes it sound like they think she’s a monster and then the way Snow handled it. The Snow Queen wasn’t wrong and I think it was interesting to see and I definitely wish we could’ve gotten more about the Snow Queen and Emma’s relationship as a sort of mother and daughter
let’s not forget that the only person in this show who genuinely cares about emma is killian. Not once did he treat her as if she’s just a savior. he wanted to protect her while everyone else wanted emma to protect them. He loved her and cared for her more than anyone else and is the best character for that reason.
@@nia-qf2mz that is very true. He is the one person who never expected her to save or protect anyone while everyone even Henry (yes he loves her and their relationship is beautiful) put her in the box of saviour I mean the entire reason he wanted her around in the first place was to break a curse. Everyone wanted something from her in some shape or form but Killian only wanted to be with her, to have that connection. He genuinely cares for her. And yes her family love her, and her friends care for her but even then they still put her into the box of saviour, and protector.
Well technically Snow was supposed to go with her but august dad made his son go instead of snow which was extremely selfish in my opinion
The conversation makes me wonder how things would have turned out if Regina had met Emma when she was younger. As much as they clash, a key defining factor for both of them is how their parents basically used them to fulfill their own needs. Cora never let either of her daughters lead the lives they wanted and Emma's parents sent her to another world in the hopes that she would break a curse for a bunch of people she was too young to remember.
There's also the fact that when Regina undid the first curse the charmings immediately gave up and didn't bother looking for a way to get back to Emma until they needed her to defeat Zelena via another curse. Mermaids could travel between realms, why not look for Ariel?
Rewatching old OUAT scenes and this one breaks my heart every time. Poor Emma. Her face when Snow snapped at her. 😭
I know Snow yelled on accident but I cant help but be frustrated with her. She did not do the best job at making sure Emma felt just as loved as baby Neal. I know that Snow loved Emma, but she should have had a conversation about it with her and made sure that her daughter knew she was just as loved as her brother. I think that we needed a scene that had Snow explaining to Emma that she loves her and Neal equally. I know Emma was a grown woman but she just got her parents back and them having a child that they get to raise would be really hard to take. It would definitely upset me.
everything you said is true, I agree with you
but for be honest, i think than snow loves emma the same way than baby neal, but yes, emma is an adult woman and neal is a baby, that's the only big difference between them
Exactly i agree with you on this like we know snow loves emma but she can never truly understand what emma went through her entire life and she treats it as not a big deal that she and charming gave her up so you can't blame emma for being upset because snow treats baby neal like he's better and more loved.
I loved the Snow Queen, she may have had some twisted ways, but she was more of a mother to Emma than Snow ever was or could be. She really deserved better. The Snow Queen and Emma.
I feel sad every time I watch this. I can see Emma's heart is broken
The fear in Emma's eyes made me 😭
Snow queen:"And they look at you as a monster! " Emma:"SHUT UP! "
I never hated the snow queen all she ever wanted was to have a family that was just like her and that wasn't afraid of her
exactly you are right, and i have 2 disney song for her
mulan :Reflection
Descendants disney - song: If Only
I love that Ingrid make Emma so mad that she blows and blows a hole in the wall when she loses control of her powers
Does anyone noticed that when David pushed hook to save him, David could have moved instead of standing there.
He actually moved back towards it... When he pushed Hook out of the way he moved too but then he just walked back to where he was before pushing Hook out of the way... He was so stupid hahaha
Ingrid's face at 1:34 was priceless
ikr XD
Anyone else notice that Rumples first instinct was to pull Belle towards him?
I love small moments like that
what the snow queen said...it isn't false tho
Ingrid is the best character in the entire show
in that season i wish ingrid would have gotten her happy ending in a different way, like adopting a new child that happens to know magic, it would be no savior but at least she would have someone that loves her that she can take care of
Windsong ShadowDancer while I agree, she would've just slipped through the cracks like every other character that got that. (Like Jefferson)
This is one instance in which i think the sacrifice route was probably for the best. It felt like her redemption was earned, because she could let go of her dream of a perfect family so Emma and Elsa could live out their lives with their respective families.
Meanwhile, Neal gets sacrificed to make room for Captain Swan. Not that I necessarily wanted him and Emma to get back together, but I think Henry deserved to have his father
@@KoverKid93 I agree, captain swan kinda felt forced I think and though her and Neal didn't need to get back together I think in terms they could have remaind great friends and allow for Henry to have his father around and bond well. I know though because the actor himself was getting into new projects so they had to kill him off which is very sad because he deserved better. I think Neal was done dirty still I don't think he got to have a truly mend relationship with his own father. I kinda empathize with both characters I mean I can see how Neal would want to distance himself from rumple because of all the bad things he does with his magic but I can also dee rumple would be willing to change and make sacrifices to mend his bond with his son. Though I know he refuses to give up magic. He wanted in his way to make things right. As mad with power he was he never wanted to do what hisbwife did to them. I think she did them both dirty and didn't deserve to know when Emma told her she saw Neal and his message to Emma. Rumple deserved to be the only one to know that because he put in effort to try and fix his mistakes and mend his bond with Neal. Although I know in this scenario Gertrude was content with the letter from one of her sisters who regretted sealing her in the urn and made her sacrifice to save Elsa and Emma maybe they could have added something like her sisters appearing and talk to her before taking her hand in the afterlife with the ribbons they shared and walked with her to the light to commemorate her reunite with them. Regina still deserved a good life as well she had so much character development and yes she had Henry but I think she also deserved a new child of her own , she would remain to be an amazing mom and I think happier as well since Henry left.
The only reason they decided to have another child is to get the experience of actually raising him. Poor Emma, I've lost soo much appreciation for Snow White watching this episode!!
It was an instinctual reaction. She did it without thinking and to be honest, MOST people would. It's not fair to lose your faith in a human being because of an instinctual reaction - you're doing exactly what Emma was afraid of everyone else doing to HER.
😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
they abandon her as a kid when they don't need to at all, they shout at her when she's at the worst point of her life, they have another kid just so they can have a normal child. I know parents reaction is to discipline their kids but she said "I can't control my powers", hook ignored that and her parents didn't try and stop him either, so it goes straight back to them. Hook wanted to make sure she was OK, her parents didn't really care so didn't stop him, he grabbed her hand and that caused everything to go bang, then after an accident AND warnings, they decide it's all her fault, then change their mind so they don't look like horrible parents. I mean, heck, evil queens better than that, she only wanted to kill snow white, not make her suffer
Actually they had another baby because they missed Emma's childhood and wanted to make it up with him, and they wanted another go at it...
Daisy Miller still I think they didn't think that out, how it would make Emma feel.
@@maggiewussow2278 True. But what are they supposed to do? Emma is a full grown adult. She has a kid of her own. She doesn’t need any more raising. And Emma knew Snow wanted another kid. Snow mentioned it in that cave. So it’s not like she goes from being the only child to boom a new sibling the next day. She knew they were planning on having another kid.
David was concerned about Emma. He’s always been a great dad to Emma. It’s Snow White that showed her true colors as the show went on
The snow queen truly did love emma for who she was. Thats why it hurt when she sacrificed herself
me too, and for me ingrid has never been a villain, she wanted just a family like her
The Snow Queen's telling the truth mostly. Snow had no right to snap at Emma it was obviously an accident the magic thing was still new to her she didn't mean for it to happen. The Snow Queen's actress is amazing and i love Emma's powers
2:35 No one notice that rumple hug belle to protect her so sweet
Most of what she says is true, and it's not even just about magic, it's about the fact Emma is different. I wish I could meet someone like Ingrid (minus the crazy magic of course, or not idk lol), she knows what's going on. She refused to acknowledge that she had let it make her a monster and should not have been plotting the whole "shattered sight" thing, but she really wasn't that evil. She truly loved both Emma and Elsa. Also I think this 1/2 season was the last time we really got a solid 1/2 a season, everything since has been a loss of quality (not saying the Malficient storyline wasn't good though it got axed basically, or that Cruella wasn't fun, or Zelena's return, etc, but it's moments not complete) with perhaps the exception of the Underworld arc since. Can we get more full 1/2 season stories based around something rather than same old same old evil queen and the book and author stuff? It's gotten so stale.
p.s. despite it's flaws in Season 6 I did enjoy Dr. Jeyll/Mr. Hyde and then the Gideon/Black Fairy storyline once it came to fruition even if the bridge between it (more evil queen literally as a seperate character) got boring. Should've ended it though, this Season 7 thing seems...literally indescribable.
I think it’s because unlike the other Misthaven/Enchanted Forest, Arrendelle, and other magical realm residents, Ingrid actually spent almost an equal amount of time in, “our world,” than her home world, all without ever having her memory wiped. I think that’s why - despite Emma’s blatant resistance - she understands Emma better than anyone else around her (except maybe Henry, but he’s still a kid at this point)
Don't you love that Snow is the only one to look at her in fear and anger?
Killian obviously just wants to make sure she's okay and hold her.
Henry and David are afraid for her and want to help.
Rumple, Belle and Elsa know to listen to her in that moment.
But Snow? After refusing to let her hold Neal when she got upset, and then snapping at her? Just... ugh.
Rumple in this was so funny
“Heed her words”
1:34 ingrid like "I told u so!"
This just goes to show how powerful the Snow Queen was. She could've easily taken off the cuffs and been out of the prison in a second. But her true power is when she poked and provoked Emma into losing control of her powers to show her a glimpse of her potential.
As soon as Snow yelled at her, her face just changed and she looked like a little girl being scolded and it was really painful.
the snow queen and pan are my fav villains. they knew how to get under ur skin real bad. but they don’t top my girl regina
you love regina you too ?
I loved Ingrid...
i looove that season! and the dairy queen was very amusing to watch! She was a twisted villan very fun to observe :D
When Snow yelled at her...if I was Emma I would've ran away too
1:15 This...There are no words for this particular part. The way she said it gave me chills!
I agree with ingrid about the whole thing throughout the series i have seen her be more a savior to the charmings than a daughter. they never talk about her 28 years of her life being abandoned by them. they keep saying they had no choice but they did. the savior was written into the curse meaning if they were with them in their cursed state she could have still broken it. and them being scared of their powers and how snow acts as if neal is her only kid. fucked up just like naming him after the man who hurt their daughter and abandoned her. its like they want to remind emma of just how abandoned she is. personally i wish emma sided with ingred, i agree ingrid and elsa are more family to her than the charmings hell even regina would be better!
+Kelsi Anderson I always found it sad how quickly Elsa and Emma formed a bond that was obviously deeper than the one she had with her mother. Heck Emma and Anna seemed closer to Emma than Snow. Ever since Emma went back in time, Snow has been a completely different (more judgmental) character.
i agree and with how judgey she is i am surprised Emma didn't join Elsa and Anna in Aarandelle just to escape her ass and charming is too whipped to stop snow from hurting Emma so apart from henry and her stalker (hook) i don't think anyone would miss emma the savior yes emma no! which is sad!
I agree with you all the way
+fantastic forever Ingrid was telling Emma a half-truth, but the truth part is the most painful part. To quote Tennyson , "A lie that is half a truth is ever the blackest kind of lie." Ingrid was just trying to turn emma against her family with a painful truth, but some of what Ingrid said was a lie.
+lucariomew358/2 I think Snow's judgmental character derives from having to raise a baby for the first time and getting stuck with the mantle of Storybrooke's new mayor. Probably not the best excuse considering what she did with her first-born, but it's not exactly a horrible one either.
the snow queen doesn't dissappear into smoke like most people
the actress who portrays Snow Queen is similar to Mrs. Clause, also the same actress. They both are snow/ice and christmas related characters.
Emma seems more like the snow queen daughter than snow
She was the one who raised her after all.
this proves that the truth has more than one side.
If I were Emma I’d be giving that same expression to Snow when Snow said, “Emma!”
The way Emma’s face changed when Snow yelled “Emma!” Was absolutely heartbreaking 😭🥺♥️ my poor baby
“And do you know what happens when people don’t understand something”? “They learn to fear it, and then they look at it like a monster”.
Urgh. I love Ingrid so much in this series. She was so misunderstood when it comes to magic, like Elsa and Emma. I was so upset that young Emma and Ingrid get to be a happy family before. It broke my heart. They were the two blond ladies that just fill each other's hear. But alas, Ingrid got a little too eager for Emma. I just wish she waited a little and just spent more quality time with young Emma before mentioning anything about magic.
me too i love ingrid, and i have 2 disney songs for her
mulan :Reflection
Descendants disney - song: If Only
the girl said to stay back, they should’ve listened
ok can we be real for a second. DAVID COULD HAVE EASILY MOVED. he just stood there
Why would the Snow Queen leave when Emma is at her lowest? She was impressionable, emotional, and vulnerable, Ingrid could've further manipulated her.
iRazenrak maybe deep down Ingrid loved Emma and Elsa .. it was proven during her death scene.. Ingrid was more the suitable mother for Emma since she understood how it feel to be different
She didn't need to. Snow and Elsa handled the rest.
The Snow Queen is right, Snow and Charming could've found a way, but they chose not to. I mean if they were that determined to keep Emma from going dark, not mention ruining the lives of a mother and an innocent child in the process, then why didn't they try to find a way to keep Emma, and for everyone pointing fingers at Regina let me remind you all it was Snow and Charming's decision to send her through a wardrobe without knowing if something could happen Emma, so yeah they could've done something.
Man Elizabeth Mitchell is such a good actress
,,You can't love somebody you don't understand. And you know what happens when people don't understand something? They learn to fear it. And they look at it like a monster." I can't believe I'm sayin' that but I actually think that Ingrid was right. This speach was kinda sad but true.
The snow queen is right in a way some light deeds are dark deeds doesn’t matter what the intention are
I love all the Frozen/Elsa references in this scene.
Snow snapping at emma, immediately after ingrid told her they would
Ingrid: And then they look at it like a monster.
Emma : SHUT UP!
(WALL BLASTS APART)
Snow queen was right in everything she said. Honestly i believe she did care for Emma very much.
ingrid's got a strong point here
Emma Smash !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
23RedTechno you made my day 😂😂😂
Emma warned yall to stay away and then Snow being a horrible mom makes it worse by snapping at Emma when she said she couldn't control it i don't blame Emma for leaving
the saddest thig is that what the snow queen said was true
Am I the only one who finds it funny when she runs away in her beetle?? idk why lol
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The Snow Queen was a great villain but she also showed signs of vulnerabilities like wanting to be loved the way she loved her sisters. If Gothel existed here I'm sure she'll exploit the Snow Queen's weakness.
you are right for gothel, and i think than she would have converted ingrid to join the coven of the witches
and for me gothel was the best villain of the season 7
"I don't have to know you, I've been you" 🙁
Through the first bit of season 4 Snow was really snappy and hesitant of Emma, it actually makes me feel bad.
I’ve re-watched this scene so many times, Jennifer Morrison did so well at showing how angry she got. This scene and the one where emma accidently heats the baby bottle we’re so sad but such great scenes!
Ingrid is that villain you hate to love. Like before you know her backstory, when you see her as a villain I try to hate her character but I just love how evil she is.
Snow never gave mother vibes to me! I feel like she really disconnected herself from Emma because she felt like she wasn’t a mother to Emma she never raised her like yea that’s her child but I feel like she felt like she wasn’t truly her mother! David always made sure to be her dad though and I loved that about him!
you preferred david at snow ?
@@soixsantes lol as a parent yes, he always was there to rescue her! Made sure he did his best to never lose her again! Snow mostly cared about protecting her son Neal! But snow was great just not as a mother to Emma.
@@NaiyasWorld you are right, and i love david, He's one of my favorite characters
@@NaiyasWorld And I have a song from a movie for him
the swan princess 3 :Because I Love Her
The Snow Queen does have a point!
I love this scene so much. It shows how fear can make someone feel so alone and disconnected from the people they love.
The Snow Queen is the best character in this show to me. She shows just how far love can go until fear seeps in. Plus I’ve come to hate Snow White in this series. So to see Snow Whites true colors as she yells at her daughter made me happy for Emma to finally see the real hypocritical monster: Snow White.
Plus after this scene when Snow reflects on what she did she says “We failed David.” No, you failed Snow.
It’s great because it very well illustrates the thesis of the show: the world isn’t as black-and-white as we try to believe it is. People are neither fully good nor fully bad; and behind many perceived, “bad,” person is often someone abused, neglected, or unloved (Regina, Cora, Zelena, Ingrid, etc.)
@@lufie56 one of Snow’s fatal flaws is her stubborn refusal to admit when she’s wrong, or take responsibility for when she’s harmed someone. David is almost equally stubborn/ignorant, but he at least isn’t exalted as the pinnacle of goodness that Snow consistently is. In fact, the only time Snow questions her inherent goodness is when she kills someone she was objectively justified in doing so for the greater good. But all the ways she emotionally manipulates and gaslights people? Never held accountable.
Ingrid has been my favourite new character on the show.... too bad they couldn't keep her on.
I wished they could've at least included her in the Underworld arc...would've made for a good episode, that's 4sure. In all honesty I think she was the last really solid, excellent "villain" character on the show, not that other roles (especially Mal and Cruella, and Hades, and Hyde) weren't played well but they either didn't have such emotional impact or layers, or got tossed away too quickly.
@@oneandonlysound3453 Maleficent and Cruella had great stories but were too rushed to be explored well
I love how everyone is pissed off about something out of a tv show 😂😂😂 Also I agree with Emma’s responses to Ingrid. If someone was trying to mess with my head about my family loving me, I’d get pretty upset too.
I know this scene is about Emma and her powers, but 2:35 Rumple is protecting Belle! So cute! I love it and it's so sad that they broke up!
Technically they didn't actually break up she just sent him out of the line but their gonna get back together I mean they r beauty and the beast n belle loves him too much
David Williams
Yeah but sometimes I think she's too forgiving. She actually smartened up this time.
2:36 Aww, he protects her! Love Rumbelle. 😘
She gave a lot of rage at the snow white in this episode and Emma said she could not control it and even then the white one screamed at her and then came to pay her mother