One of the nice things about this headset is that unlike the cheaper knock offs they don't completely "click out" when the hearing protection kicks in, more like it squashes the noise down to acceptable levels. I've had pyros go off right next to me during a conversation, and you can still hear what's going on even though your ears aren't left ringing.
I also have AMPs and they're amazing, especially with NFMI. Just a comment on storing them on the helmet like you do at 16:00 - don't rotate them back towards the rear of the helmet, that's what gives you that kink, should rotate them towards the front and up that way
Walker Razors are way worse than howard leight. And they're mono, not even stereo, so you have idea what directions sounds are coming from! I did a full 270 degree spin trying to figure out who was talking behind me cause I was wearing the Walkers. Also the Walkers completely cut sound when rather than filter it out. You hear a loud bang? Sound will cut out for a second or two completely with the Walkers.
Which helmet mounting option do you prefer, ARMs or Peltor Adaptor? I hears many online say that Peltor adaptor is flimsy and ARM is better in every way, but then I saw Garland Thumb saying that he prefers Peltor adaptor for the ability to pop them out and still hear the radio while ventilating his ears. And I heard Hoplopfheil say that Peltor adaptors allows his to better stabilize helmet to his head so that he doesn’t have to strap his helmet too tightly, while rear mounting options like ARM doesn’t stabilize as well... So now I cannot decide. What’s your take?
@@amg_csgo I’m going to switch over to the ar-152 baofeng, it’s still a baofeng uv5r but in a ar-152 body with a bigger battery. I just also gave up on a helmet setup and switched over to a dye i4 camo mask because I keep fogging with goggles and mesh mask set up even with the exfog unit I still fog up and as for the comms I just use the baofeng shoulder mic but I do want to switch to another higher quality shoulder mic
I have a fast sf helmet w AMP earphones and opps core glasses . where can I sell my products? There's nothing wrong with them, I just dont airsoft anymore.
I can’t say for sure for all of them but I recently got a pair of the clones a really nice set no mix match plugs or cables or headband everything matching , The hearing protection is excellent the clarity of communication is excellent the decibel reduction is excellent I paid A little over $300 for them versus the $2200 set that I have I would never ever pay that price again the clarity and communication and decibel ratings with the real pair do not warrant that price tag the clone pair that I purchased are every bit as good as Sorden or peltor. The clone also has the auto shut off after four hours of inactivity.
And yes communicating through the PTT or just sound in general the level is the same right and left there is no difference I know exactly what you’re talking about having good hearing out of one ear cup and the other being very muted lots of cheap headsets do that these do not
@@eastcoastflooring4624 so come to find out the pair i had for over 3 years finally shorted out on one side so when i brought a new set they was working perfectly
@@pingu.0211 i have tried earmor for shooting real steel it does quite good at sound muffling. I wonder this fma has twice of the price from earmor would get better significant performance
@@pingu.0211any update? I just bought a pair of walker Xcels 500BTs with an advertised 26 NRR bought there’s no aux input so no way to make them coms compatible which is a big bummer. I was really looking for a pair of hearing protection (for firearms use) that could make coms compatible without spendings comtacs kind of money
Yeah not sure. We only tested two setups. Ztac PTT and Earmore PTT. Couldn’t say for anything else. But feel free to leave a comment if you figure it out!
@@MarcoAngeloGarcia They are interchangable, but the Ops Core mic will require an Amp'd PTT. So far Disco 32 is the only one I've found to work with Baofengs, the Code Red one is meh.
You can tell after a few shots if its too loud or download a decible reader . I dont understand why your of the mindset that you could be unknowingly causing deafness .
Bro you can absolutely shoot with these check out dirty civilians latest video about the knock off amp headset you can always double up but I don’t believe it’s required although I only shoot suppressed if you don’t shoot suppressed you may want to double up but I don’t find that it’s any different when people are around me shooting unsuppressed
@@eastcoastflooring4624I just bought a pair of walker xcels that have 26 NRR. Would you say that these are absolutely safe for shooting firearms outdoors without doubling up and safe doubling up for indoor?
One of the nice things about this headset is that unlike the cheaper knock offs they don't completely "click out" when the hearing protection kicks in, more like it squashes the noise down to acceptable levels. I've had pyros go off right next to me during a conversation, and you can still hear what's going on even though your ears aren't left ringing.
Loved that review, great level of detail and I appreciate you have to caveat your statements but your attention to detail I thought was spot on.
I also have AMPs and they're amazing, especially with NFMI.
Just a comment on storing them on the helmet like you do at 16:00 - don't rotate them back towards the rear of the helmet, that's what gives you that kink, should rotate them towards the front and up that way
What helmet do you have and do the pads lay flat? im worried the pads will get worn out in storage especially if they are partially compressed
I have an Ops Core Carbon SF, am not seeing them have any problems with deforming in storage no, they do lay pretty flat tbh
dayum you have the ops core amps and the carbon sf? Thats good money right there my dude. Nice.
AMAZING video. Thank you for the content and insight. Not many are making this comparison.
Thank you. Exactly what I was searching for. I appreciate the time you put into this video to share this information. Liked and subscribed 👍
Great to hear!
I dont even play Airsoft but I am gonna watch it anyway
Can you go into a little more detail about head shape and the stock of an ar15 bumping up against the ear muff? Thank you.
Informative video. With the Howard Leight’s being significantly less expensive than the FMAs, what makes you trust their NRR?
Great comparison! I’m curious if the FMA AMPS will fit on the genuine Ops-Core headband and vice-versa?
I couldn’t see why it wouldn’t. But we haven’t tested it
They fit on the real amp arms and the real ones fit on the fake ones
Walker Razors are way worse than howard leight. And they're mono, not even stereo, so you have idea what directions sounds are coming from! I did a full 270 degree spin trying to figure out who was talking behind me cause I was wearing the Walkers. Also the Walkers completely cut sound when rather than filter it out. You hear a loud bang? Sound will cut out for a second or two completely with the Walkers.
Which helmet mounting option do you prefer, ARMs or Peltor Adaptor? I hears many online say that Peltor adaptor is flimsy and ARM is better in every way, but then I saw Garland Thumb saying that he prefers Peltor adaptor for the ability to pop them out and still hear the radio while ventilating his ears. And I heard Hoplopfheil say that Peltor adaptors allows his to better stabilize helmet to his head so that he doesn’t have to strap his helmet too tightly, while rear mounting options like ARM doesn’t stabilize as well...
So now I cannot decide. What’s your take?
You can just rest the AMPs against the helmet rail for some sir flow and still hear coms fine.
Can you hot swap the fma battery caps to the real amps
OC AMP has Fischer Connectors Ultimate Series 10 pin Code 2, not Limo 😉
Are midland radios any good? I have a baofeng uv5r but I cannot transmit to anything I can only hear from it
They lock out certain freq’s. You’ll need to talk on a different band or range
Yo did yu ever end up switching radios? Or was your PTT the problem? lmk im having issues transmitting but I can receive perfectly.
@@amg_csgo I’m going to switch over to the ar-152 baofeng, it’s still a baofeng uv5r but in a ar-152 body with a bigger battery. I just also gave up on a helmet setup and switched over to a dye i4 camo mask because I keep fogging with goggles and mesh mask set up even with the exfog unit I still fog up and as for the comms I just use the baofeng shoulder mic but I do want to switch to another higher quality shoulder mic
is the FMA amp headset compatible with the Ops core AMP arms? can you use the Ops core AMP arms to mount the FMA AMP to the helmet?
Yes, I’ve seen other comments state that
Is there a Link for that Earmor Ptt?
I have a fast sf helmet w AMP earphones and opps core glasses . where can I sell my products? There's nothing wrong with them, I just dont airsoft anymore.
I’d say Reddit is probably a good place to start!
You got a number and can send pics of what you have?
Can you attach the FMAs to an Mlok rail on helmet?
You can by using the team wendy adapters
how well would these fit under the army ach helmet??
Yeah okay bro, I'm gonna need to know where you got that John Wick patch.
2:00..😶…Hope you brought cab-fare, and a Towel!…
Sick
Hey can u link go pro nvg adapter
Does the disco 32 work with the amps? Or is it just the earmor
Yep we run disco 32 ptts on our amps and comtacs. Just make sure to wrap a rubber band around the kenwood/Baofeng connector since it can shake loose
Whenever you was using the FMAs could you hear your radio out of both ears or just one?
I can’t say for sure for all of them but I recently got a pair of the clones a really nice set no mix match plugs or cables or headband everything matching , The hearing protection is excellent the clarity of communication is excellent the decibel reduction is excellent I paid A little over $300 for them versus the $2200 set that I have I would never ever pay that price again the clarity and communication and decibel ratings with the real pair do not warrant that price tag the clone pair that I purchased are every bit as good as Sorden or peltor. The clone also has the auto shut off after four hours of inactivity.
And yes communicating through the PTT or just sound in general the level is the same right and left there is no difference I know exactly what you’re talking about having good hearing out of one ear cup and the other being very muted lots of cheap headsets do that these do not
@@eastcoastflooring4624 so come to find out the pair i had for over 3 years finally shorted out on one side so when i brought a new set they was working perfectly
How loud is radio comms in the FMA or the OPS?
Loud enough to hear! Lol. You can control the volume on the radio so it’s a bit of a moot point in most cases
Have you tried for shooting real steel?
Most of the sets, yes. I haven't personally tried the FMA's, but I've been told it works well outdoors. YMMV
@@pingu.0211 i have tried earmor for shooting real steel it does quite good at sound muffling. I wonder this fma has twice of the price from earmor would get better significant performance
@@pingu.0211any update? I just bought a pair of walker Xcels 500BTs with an advertised 26 NRR bought there’s no aux input so no way to make them coms compatible which is a big bummer. I was really looking for a pair of hearing protection (for firearms use) that could make coms compatible without spendings comtacs kind of money
does the v20 ptt work well with the fma amp head set?
Yeah not sure. We only tested two setups. Ztac PTT and Earmore PTT. Couldn’t say for anything else. But feel free to leave a comment if you figure it out!
@@pingu.0211 Ima take my chances on earmors I cant afford the fma anps although they seem pretty solid
@@knightairsoftwarrior Yeah one of the guys runs Earmors, I just haven't gotten a chance to listen to them. But people seem to love them!
A non-amplified milspec ptt works with fcs amp. What im curious about is the mic of fcs and ops interchangeable? Can i use fcs mic to real amp?
@@MarcoAngeloGarcia They are interchangable, but the Ops Core mic will require an Amp'd PTT. So far Disco 32 is the only one I've found to work with Baofengs, the Code Red one is meh.
You can tell after a few shots if its too loud or download a decible reader . I dont understand why your of the mindset that you could be unknowingly causing deafness .
Have you dared to shoot with them?😅
Couple of the guys who have them have shot with them. I wouldn’t dare personally, but I’m also that guy who doubles up
Bro you can absolutely shoot with these check out dirty civilians latest video about the knock off amp headset you can always double up but I don’t believe it’s required although I only shoot suppressed if you don’t shoot suppressed you may want to double up but I don’t find that it’s any different when people are around me shooting unsuppressed
@@eastcoastflooring4624I just bought a pair of walker xcels that have 26 NRR. Would you say that these are absolutely safe for shooting firearms outdoors without doubling up and safe doubling up for indoor?