I’ve just come across your video site and enjoyed the friendly and patient tuition. It’s given me motivation to be focused on my Eskrima class this evening. Bye for now.
Thank you sir - glad you find some of these basics and understand the drills and teaching nature, rather than demo or combat at this point. Best of luck training, and take care!
Thanks Zach! Yep, after the big camp is over I'll get back into making these longer videos and one of them will be a continuation of this and include inserts , change-ups, alterations, and crossovers. 🙃
I had a lot of survival fights with my bully way back in high school and had never encountered that kind of punching style with all of them. As far as I can remember is that whenever they throw a punch at me I'll just dodge it and throw a devastating punch to their liver because that's my favorite spot.
Yep, that's why this is a drill and not a technique, as I said from the beginning. That said, you can often do this kind of thing against a grab attempt (like the grab-to-hold-and-hit) and such. You can also think of the first move as a kind of assisted dodge - and there are 2-count and 1-count variations as well.
Great introduction Sir, I applaud you working out with your son in this video, as a father it gives me great pleasure seeing dads sharing the arts with their kids. In our system of DeCuerdas we refer to drills like these as chain of hands or cadena de mano. Keep up the great work in promoting the FMA arts, if you ever find yourself in the central valley in California drop by my place for some training and BBQ.
I appreciate that! Thank you very much, sir! I do sometimes get out to the Lompoc area and of course LA for work. I might take you up on such a visit if I can make it work. I always love meeting and training with all different FMA folks when I travel. 👍 Pugay and thanks again!
I will put that in the hopper - and will have to be sure to use someone besides my son for that, LOL. It would likely move on to include things like actual footwork/movement, combo attacks, simultaneous options, shielding, single counts, what-ifs, etc... It would be fun for sure!
If you know your sinawali patterns, that is what this is. What we call heaven 6. If you do it on the inside of their arm that's the first 3 strikes & on the outside of their arm is the last set of strikes from that pattern. I think in modern arnis that's called Redondo 6.
Heaven 6 and Redonda are definitely related, but the 3rd and 6th strikes in the full repeating block of 6 are different. The former has 3rd and 6th strikes done backhand style whereas the latter has the 3rd and 6th strikes done in forehand fashion.
@@tyeskf we do a inward forehand, backhand & another backhand on one side & the same on the other (what we call heaven 6). I think Remy Presas even did an example of the parry check strike that you're talking about.
@@tyeskf also about Redondo 6, I know are is a forehand backhand forehand pattern & not a forehand backhand backhand. I sorry if I said that differently a minute ago. But we go forehand backhand backhand
@@kevincopeland935 ;-) Yep, the Professor definitely did the parry check strike I did here - he was my teacher throughout the 90s, for which I am ever thankful and grateful. 👍
Sir, I learned this in a series of 3, each connected to a different spin. We called them brush, grab, strike. The double figure eight was a parry followed by the grab from the bottom side and a strike coming straight from the shoulder (think a cross), the second was from a double circle (sorry I learned this all in English) which was a parry followed by the grab from the top and then a back-fist, and the third was from a double arrow which is a parry followed by an upward forearm to a grab and a vertical punch. All of these were used for entries for various locking and throwing techniques. My original arnis was an eclectic blend of arnis and jujutsu that was highly combative and practical. Is this similar to what I am describing or a different idea all together?
I think I'm following you... You can certainly do the third count as punch type strike, of course. We always started with backfist as I showed (or hammerfist), whether from inside their arm or outside - because the thumb-in parry sort of automatically loads up your arm in that way. Then we moved to palm out parry underneath and usually followed up after grabbing with a punch - my goal here was to keep it simple and point out options from a single base. We always learned it as a 3-count first (and this 3-count backfist sequence is the first thing done in our first empty-hand form even), then had them really work the back and forth flow, and then we started inserting variations. And yes, we would escalate until a lock, throw, or other finish. If I read the 3rd sequence you describe correctly I don't remember seeing that variation - I'd have to see it to be sure as I don't think I'm quite understanding. Maybe you can show me in a month? Lots of styles do these drills in lots of different ways for sure, though, and I have no doubt at all that I have not yet seen all the variations. ;-) I never heard Professor Remy call it brush-grab-strike, but I do know several in Modern Arnis who do use that terminology for sure. Monkey kung fu and drunken kung fu both do something similar to what you describe in you second series, again if I read correctly. And the last three counts of a 4-count hubad lubad drill look like the back of the hand parry I showed briefly on the dummy and with Guro John in the video. I'd definitely be interested in seeing the 3 sequences you describe. 👍
@@kevionrogers2605 no and yes. I started studying Jujutsu & Arnis with Jeff Moore Sensei around 1986/87. I did a couple of course with Professor V and also with David James Sensei. I have also had the privilege to attend course where Professor Scott demonstrated. .... My current Arnis instructor , Professor Jeff Ramsey studied extensively with Professor V and with Professor Moses Powell.
Great video! I just found your channel and have been going through your content. Your wooden dummy is really interesting. I've looked into purchasing one and they are not cheap. It looks like you used a railroad tie and some wooden dowels. But I couldn't tell how you hold them in place. Do they go all the way through and then held in place by a wooden pin? Thanks!
Thank you sir, glad you're enjoying. The dummy is closet dowels into a railroad tie, yes. They're held in place by a single carriage bolt all the way through and the holes are just a tad bigger than the closet dowels, so with one bolt (really a thickish screw) holding them then there is some play to them (I might loosen them to allow more). Hope this helps!
Sort of - remember, this is a drill and not a set of techniques. It's for sensitivity, timing, distance, adaptability, and as a context to sneak in things to break the drill. My philosophy on drills is that you learn them and yes try to do them well, but that's only a starting point - you really don't start getting lots out of them until you break them, deconstruct them, insert, alter, adjust timing and pressure, and generally use them as a background context to explore your techniques while movement is already happening around them. A controlled laboratory, if you will. I have a blog article that discusses in more detail if anyone's interested: www.kungfu.cc/blog/articles/2/on-drills
It's not always a backfist, only the standard starting drill - it can also be a straight punch, hammerfist, etc, and the targets can change, as I explain and show in the video. I might do a more advanced one later, with even more options too. 👍
This is Called Eskrido in my dialect but I doubt its true, its the combination of judo and eskrima. 1:30 is the most effective of them all, specially dealing with taller opponents positioning outside the fist thrown is the most effective as its block the opponent chances to throw a punch from his other hand.
Yep, exactly - I generally prefer to be on the outside of the arm. That's why I showed a few options to transfer to the outside. The inside has it's place too, but presents exactly the challenge you describe - an easy followup punch. Thanks for the good comment and for watching! 👍
It is indeed. Sorry this wasn't to your liking. While I'm not here to debate, keep in mind I am just presenting some basic drills of our style. I would re-stress that these videos are to teach basics and are in no way meant to suggest you would do exactly these moves all in a row in a fight - you might however use pieces of them and certainly some attributes they help develop - which is the whole goal. We do teach how to use things for real, but that's a different subject - this is not me, but very representative of some of the things I cover and I'd highly recommend anyone check out their work: ua-cam.com/video/j_fZtxsPkew/v-deo.html. Here, I used words like "basic" and 'intro" and "drill" and "teach" on purpose. This is a basic intro to a drill to teach flow, timing, sensitivity, controlled reactions, opportunity, and such, all in a simple, self-contained context - a basic drill. And drills are not full techniques or actual combat, for a reason. Baby steps. You wouldn't look at a baby learning to walk and say that's not how they will ever get good at running... ;-)
Sorry you don't find this basic intro to a basic drill to your liking. Glad to hear you enjoy your particular FMA and your Muay Thai - keep on training those and best of luck going forward!
My apologies if the content is not to your liking - I would suggest looking for more demo-oriented, advanced drills and techniques, and combat-showcasing videos. I am confused at your adjudgement though. Maybe I should re-stress that these videos are to teach basics and are in no way meant as demos or showcasing anything. I use words like "basic" and 'intro" and "drill" and "teach" on purpose. This is a basic intro to a drill to teach flow, timing, sensitivity, controlled reactions, opportunity, and such, all in a simple, self-contained context - a basic drill. And drills are not full techniques or combat. That said, I would point out that after the introductory mechanics portion of the video we did actually get to some of what the other person could do and to doing some followups and alternates. After any initial strike, it's up to the person ahead to "go to town" as best they know how.
Very good! This is one of best videos about Cadena de Mano,the trapping hands of Modern Arnis. Pugay! Mabuhay ang Pinoy Arnis! Greetings from Brazil
Awesome, thank you very much for the very kind words sir! Maraming maraming salamat! Pugay
Excellent Techniques,thank You for sharing this kind of ARTS From Philippines which applicable to all ages and Gender. God bless us.
Maraming salamat Ser! Thanks for watching and for your kind comments. All the best to you and yours!
Thank you from this wonderful video, very detailed and clear! greeting from the Philippines ^_^
Thanks for watching and very glad you enjoyed it! Pugay
I’ve just come across your video site and enjoyed the friendly and patient tuition. It’s given me motivation to be focused on my Eskrima class this evening. Bye for now.
Thank you sir - glad you find some of these basics and understand the drills and teaching nature, rather than demo or combat at this point. Best of luck training, and take care!
You got some crazy forearms! Good development!
LOL, thanks - I don;t really train for that other than stick work and bench press and pullups/chinups.
This is a awesome video, would love to see some videos building off this, such as de ca dena with inserts, such as serpents kiss ex.
Thanks Zach! Yep, after the big camp is over I'll get back into making these longer videos and one of them will be a continuation of this and include inserts , change-ups, alterations, and crossovers. 🙃
@@tyeskf awesome ! Cannot wait sir !
I had a lot of survival fights with my bully way back in high school and had never encountered that kind of punching style with all of them. As far as I can remember is that whenever they throw a punch at me I'll just dodge it and throw a devastating punch to their liver because that's my favorite spot.
Yep, that's why this is a drill and not a technique, as I said from the beginning. That said, you can often do this kind of thing against a grab attempt (like the grab-to-hold-and-hit) and such. You can also think of the first move as a kind of assisted dodge - and there are 2-count and 1-count variations as well.
Great introduction Sir, I applaud you working out with your son in this video, as a father it gives me great pleasure seeing dads sharing the arts with their kids. In our system of DeCuerdas we refer to drills like these as chain of hands or cadena de mano. Keep up the great work in promoting the FMA arts, if you ever find yourself in the central valley in California drop by my place for some training and BBQ.
I appreciate that! Thank you very much, sir! I do sometimes get out to the Lompoc area and of course LA for work. I might take you up on such a visit if I can make it work. I always love meeting and training with all different FMA folks when I travel. 👍 Pugay and thanks again!
@@tyeskf sounds good Sir.
Great stuff PG Tye! Thanks!
Much appreciated, sir! Hope we can catch up later this year in TX. Cheers!
thank you very much sir
Most welcome - thanks for watching!
Try doing a Rumpida or Redonda after strike one.
Much faster and more practical than empty hands.
Offense is the best defense.
So instructive! Thanks! 😁😈
Glad it was helpful!
Arigatou Sensei Oss!
Most welcome, thanks for watching!
An alternative process, we used an outside hammer fist when drilling as the outside partner; back fist for the inside partner.
Yep, tons of alternate feeds for sure, thanks!
Thank you again
Always welcome
Would love to see the more advanced version. Pls
I will put that in the hopper - and will have to be sure to use someone besides my son for that, LOL. It would likely move on to include things like actual footwork/movement, combo attacks, simultaneous options, shielding, single counts, what-ifs, etc... It would be fun for sure!
@@tyeskf again thank you
If you know your sinawali patterns, that is what this is. What we call heaven 6. If you do it on the inside of their arm that's the first 3 strikes & on the outside of their arm is the last set of strikes from that pattern. I think in modern arnis that's called Redondo 6.
Heaven 6 and Redonda are definitely related, but the 3rd and 6th strikes in the full repeating block of 6 are different. The former has 3rd and 6th strikes done backhand style whereas the latter has the 3rd and 6th strikes done in forehand fashion.
@@tyeskf we do a inward forehand, backhand & another backhand on one side & the same on the other (what we call heaven 6). I think Remy Presas even did an example of the parry check strike that you're talking about.
@@tyeskf also about Redondo 6, I know are is a forehand backhand forehand pattern & not a forehand backhand backhand. I sorry if I said that differently a minute ago. But we go forehand backhand backhand
@@kevincopeland935 ;-) Yep, the Professor definitely did the parry check strike I did here - he was my teacher throughout the 90s, for which I am ever thankful and grateful. 👍
Sir, I learned this in a series of 3, each connected to a different spin. We called them brush, grab, strike. The double figure eight was a parry followed by the grab from the bottom side and a strike coming straight from the shoulder (think a cross), the second was from a double circle (sorry I learned this all in English) which was a parry followed by the grab from the top and then a back-fist, and the third was from a double arrow which is a parry followed by an upward forearm to a grab and a vertical punch. All of these were used for entries for various locking and throwing techniques. My original arnis was an eclectic blend of arnis and jujutsu that was highly combative and practical. Is this similar to what I am describing or a different idea all together?
I think I'm following you... You can certainly do the third count as punch type strike, of course. We always started with backfist as I showed (or hammerfist), whether from inside their arm or outside - because the thumb-in parry sort of automatically loads up your arm in that way. Then we moved to palm out parry underneath and usually followed up after grabbing with a punch - my goal here was to keep it simple and point out options from a single base. We always learned it as a 3-count first (and this 3-count backfist sequence is the first thing done in our first empty-hand form even), then had them really work the back and forth flow, and then we started inserting variations. And yes, we would escalate until a lock, throw, or other finish. If I read the 3rd sequence you describe correctly I don't remember seeing that variation - I'd have to see it to be sure as I don't think I'm quite understanding. Maybe you can show me in a month? Lots of styles do these drills in lots of different ways for sure, though, and I have no doubt at all that I have not yet seen all the variations. ;-) I never heard Professor Remy call it brush-grab-strike, but I do know several in Modern Arnis who do use that terminology for sure. Monkey kung fu and drunken kung fu both do something similar to what you describe in you second series, again if I read correctly. And the last three counts of a 4-count hubad lubad drill look like the back of the hand parry I showed briefly on the dummy and with Guro John in the video. I'd definitely be interested in seeing the 3 sequences you describe. 👍
Nowell is your background in Vee-jitsu Arnis?
@@kevionrogers2605 no and yes. I started studying Jujutsu & Arnis with Jeff Moore Sensei around 1986/87. I did a couple of course with Professor V and also with David James Sensei. I have also had the privilege to attend course where Professor Scott demonstrated. .... My current Arnis instructor , Professor Jeff Ramsey studied extensively with Professor V and with Professor Moses Powell.
Great video! I just found your channel and have been going through your content. Your wooden dummy is really interesting. I've looked into purchasing one and they are not cheap. It looks like you used a railroad tie and some wooden dowels. But I couldn't tell how you hold them in place. Do they go all the way through and then held in place by a wooden pin? Thanks!
Thank you sir, glad you're enjoying. The dummy is closet dowels into a railroad tie, yes. They're held in place by a single carriage bolt all the way through and the holes are just a tad bigger than the closet dowels, so with one bolt (really a thickish screw) holding them then there is some play to them (I might loosen them to allow more). Hope this helps!
Nice...trapping always reminds me of Bruce Lee.
Thank you sir!
So more movements have a chance to counter the opponent
Sort of - remember, this is a drill and not a set of techniques. It's for sensitivity, timing, distance, adaptability, and as a context to sneak in things to break the drill. My philosophy on drills is that you learn them and yes try to do them well, but that's only a starting point - you really don't start getting lots out of them until you break them, deconstruct them, insert, alter, adjust timing and pressure, and generally use them as a background context to explore your techniques while movement is already happening around them. A controlled laboratory, if you will. I have a blog article that discusses in more detail if anyone's interested: www.kungfu.cc/blog/articles/2/on-drills
Why is always back fist?,,.i like the numbering...
It's not always a backfist, only the standard starting drill - it can also be a straight punch, hammerfist, etc, and the targets can change, as I explain and show in the video. I might do a more advanced one later, with even more options too. 👍
This is Called Eskrido in my dialect but I doubt its true, its the combination of judo and eskrima. 1:30 is the most effective of them all, specially dealing with taller opponents positioning outside the fist thrown is the most effective as its block the opponent chances to throw a punch from his other hand.
Yep, exactly - I generally prefer to be on the outside of the arm. That's why I showed a few options to transfer to the outside. The inside has it's place too, but presents exactly the challenge you describe - an easy followup punch. Thanks for the good comment and for watching! 👍
Wing Chun Centerline eh?
There are definitely some similarities to some of the drills...
@@tyeskf aight, thx
I rather practice Wingchun.
OK, good deal - the best style for you is always the one you DO and will keep doing. 👍
Watch any boxing 🥊 or muay thai fight or any fight.... or be in a fight.... and you would realize Talking is cheap
It is indeed. Sorry this wasn't to your liking. While I'm not here to debate, keep in mind I am just presenting some basic drills of our style. I would re-stress that these videos are to teach basics and are in no way meant to suggest you would do exactly these moves all in a row in a fight - you might however use pieces of them and certainly some attributes they help develop - which is the whole goal. We do teach how to use things for real, but that's a different subject - this is not me, but very representative of some of the things I cover and I'd highly recommend anyone check out their work: ua-cam.com/video/j_fZtxsPkew/v-deo.html. Here, I used words like "basic" and 'intro" and "drill" and "teach" on purpose. This is a basic intro to a drill to teach flow, timing, sensitivity, controlled reactions, opportunity, and such, all in a simple, self-contained context - a basic drill. And drills are not full techniques or actual combat, for a reason. Baby steps. You wouldn't look at a baby learning to walk and say that's not how they will ever get good at running... ;-)
Instead of going to the weights gum, go to the Muay Thai gym. I’m full on FMA, and Muay Thai, and this is an embarrassment
How so? Explain.
Sorry you don't find this basic intro to a basic drill to your liking. Glad to hear you enjoy your particular FMA and your Muay Thai - keep on training those and best of luck going forward!
AFTER STRIKE IF THER IS NO EFFECT !!! YOU R F........!!!!! LOL LOL
My apologies if the content is not to your liking - I would suggest looking for more demo-oriented, advanced drills and techniques, and combat-showcasing videos. I am confused at your adjudgement though. Maybe I should re-stress that these videos are to teach basics and are in no way meant as demos or showcasing anything. I use words like "basic" and 'intro" and "drill" and "teach" on purpose. This is a basic intro to a drill to teach flow, timing, sensitivity, controlled reactions, opportunity, and such, all in a simple, self-contained context - a basic drill. And drills are not full techniques or combat. That said, I would point out that after the introductory mechanics portion of the video we did actually get to some of what the other person could do and to doing some followups and alternates. After any initial strike, it's up to the person ahead to "go to town" as best they know how.
I AGREE ! THKS