Challenger/Charger Mid Muffler Delete.. Best mod ever or overrated?
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- I give you a close up look at the process of performing the mid-muffler delete on the Challenger Scatpack. This is a well known mod in the Mopar community. See what you think about the difference in sound. At a fraction of the cost of an aftermarket catback exhaust, is this the greatest mod ever or is it overrated? Let me know what you think.
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Kinneys Muffler Shop
5951 Rufe Snow Drive
Watauga TX, 76148
(817)485-2700
www.kinneysmufflershop.com
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Just got my mid muffler cut out today on my scat. Love the way it pops.. sounds like a 500hp muscle car now
Take your SP to a dyno and you'll likely find it's already at or above 500hp, assuming you take care of it and use 93. It's just rated at 485 for legal reasons. Some will rate as high 511hp.
@@heinrichvictory i can guarantee you there is not a single stock scat pack making over 500 to the tires on a dyno.
@@Xeetrix about 420-430
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Did It make your check engine light come on?
The muffler delete with resonators sounds perfect for a daily driver!
I'm subscribing in hopes that some ad revenue can go towards new tires
LMAO
Matthew McGraw .. lol.. yes those were here worn out race tires! She already has ET Street R’s coming in 👍
@@RacerX9 what about the dynomax race bullets?
The camera does the sound no justice. Very loud in person
rich2bad .. very true my friend 👍
Just wait it will get alot louder in about 2000 miles One of the first mods I did and it sounds like a beast now specially in sport mode it’s so loud I’m waiting to get pulled over in California
Louder isn't better
So true! I searched a lot of videos before doing this mod, but it sounds much, much better in person than in any video I've seen/heard.
@@adrianwillemse9305 haha i want to get these
Sounds like a never ending cold start - thanks X
Had fun at the cruise today! It was awesome to see you and your family! Keep up the great videos 💯
Thank you my friend.. much appreciated
@@RacerX9 I enjoy your vids very much. I really don't hear any difference in doing a mid muffler delete vs a full catback tbh.... I always do the active exhaust delete and don't hear of many folks doing that first. Those valves and actuators had to go.
Love the channel only recently found it do to looking up scat pack information online. Very informative and has shown me alot of things to do when I get my 1320 here pretty soon.
2:14 all I saw was Stone Cold Steve Austin in your face lol
3:16🍺
One of my favorite mods I have done to my scat. The cold start ups are so good. And its cheap and easy to get. Love the channel man👍👍
Thank you Matt.. Yes it's definitely a solid mod
Another plus of the mid muffler delete is that it’s also a weight reduction comparable to removing either the passenger seat or the rear seat of your car. Having held my midmufflers in my arms they’re pretty damn heavy. So for next to no money you’re shaving weight and getting an aggressive exhaust note.
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Nahhh brow is almost nothing on weight cut 😂😂 come on 5 pounds maybe lol
@CZESAR99 you'd have to be a complete idiot to think 2 mufflers weighs 5 pounds
Sounds great in person! Especially when you ripped out down the road! I was there waiting my turn for a complete exhaust system when I noticed the initial start up on your ride. Then saw your youtube channel sticker. After viewing 5 of your videos, I subbed. You are correct about the quality of work Kinney's does. They exceeded my already high expectations. Drove 4 hours from San Antonio. Was worth the time and every cent in my opinion. Now my single cab coyote sounds the way it should. Keep up the great content!
Uriel Carreon .. awesome stuff! I appreciate you checking out the channel .. yes Kinney’s does solid work 👍! Hope your liking your exhaust
I doubt it. But have you known or think this would sound good on a 2013 sxt lol
I pick up my new 2020 scat shaker Thursday, love the channel.
My uncle got a muffler delete on his 2018 Dodge Charger RT sounds amazing!
i can't believe just how different it sounds. i love it
Best looking exhaust work I've ever seen 👍
Alexander McDole .. yes those guys are good 👍
Hey brother! Fort Worth native here & stumbled across your page! New sub & great vid man !
Awesome video of course and ive been waiting for this!!
Brayden Hill .. absolutely my friend
Just did mine yesterday. Couldn't be more happier.
Hello first off let me say you make some of the most insightful, knowledgeable and professional videos around hands down 👍 My question to you is if I did the mid muffler delete, would it still pass smog ? If you k ow please let me know because that would something I don’t want to mess around with. Keep the videos coming .
Finally went and got my mid muffler delete on my 392 Charger. What a difference it makes. Left a comment about a year ago debating if I would get itnor not but glad I finally did.
Did my 6.4L and just did my Hellcat love the sound
MRS. X gonna love that! Sounds awesome Brother
Todd Reeder .. much appreciated my friend.. I think so
RacerX, thanks for all the videos....just got my new 2021 Challenger Scat widebody a few weeks ago. I came from an SXT so it's obviously a huge step up. Love it and it's the perfect sweet spot for a Challenger owner. I've heard of the mid muffler delete but the stock with my 2021 sounds really good and I honestly don't hear much difference. Is it really worth the upgrade for a slight amplification of an already great sounding stock muffler?
My dad did this on his '17 T/A 392 and it made a drastic change for the better.
I couldn't be more satisfied than I am with my totally stock Active Exhaust system on my 2018 Challenger R/T Scatpack! It seems to sound better every time I drive it! lol Great job as usual RacerX! BTW, I had Dynaflow SS Quad tips welded on to my system and they came out perfect!
Ron Lang .. nice! Might have to look into those since Kinney’s tips would not fit
The Stock exhaust is perfect….for me I would want something that make it have a deeper tone without the popping
You can not deny the quality his work, taping off and painting the pipes and welds thumbs up from me. And you can't beat the Hemi farts, she sounds good.
Yes they do really solid work there.. I think the car sounds good
your channel is helping me a ton! i just bought a 2020 scat with a shaker and i’m still trying to figure out what to do just gotta wait to find a shop in new mexico i can actually trust
I appreciate that. yes its a mod worth looking into
My T/A has the mid delete and I LOVE the way it sounds!
I did a mid muffler delete all by myself without welding. All I bought was clamps and 2 pipes form auto zone. It sounds amazing
finally pulled the trigger on my new R/T and did the delete, and i ain't disappointed! sounds so good in Sport mode driving around town, but can go quiet too. no drone on highway, or cruising speeds. and X is right, it's just a little louder, and crisper, not overly loud. but it can get loud when you want it too! Fun mod, and worth it ☮
Does it rattle?
I was thinking of replacing the mid's mufflers with Vibrant 1794's. Not as loud as the full delete but a nice middle ground. Sounds good though.
Sounds great!
Great video, buddy! 👍
Hey RacerX I have an 2013 R/T and love it ever since I was a kid I loved the old school Challengers and when they came back out in 08 I knew I needed one some time in the future. I appreciate your content and am glad to have finally joined the Mopar brotherhood! If you see this video give me a like or a comment i'd appreciate it!
Glad your loving that RT my friend.. welcome to the dark side lol
The stock exhaust sounds good enough dude with the work done, it sounds exactly as good my man
Great video as usual buddy! Keep up the great work.
Sounds amazing buddy 👍 hellcat sounds like a beast
Chad Pittman .. I appreciate it buddy.. I think it sounds solid 👍
I love you're video, thanks for sharing, I did a mid muffler delete last year, and i actually love it but after months in it I ends up getting a borla s-type cat-back exhaust now it sounds really good. mid muffler delete it's just a ruspy flat sound and with the borla it's more muscle sounds.
zeo fallen .. I’m a big fan of the borla sport myself 🤜🔥🔥
Is there much of a volume difference with the s type from stock at idle and lower RPM ?
Great video! Did this one on my RT. Sounds amazing on the 5.7 with active exhaust.
One thing you missed in this video. When you cold start it, it will wake the dead. It's super loud. :D
Nice thing is, my tuner is able to adjust the active exhaust valve on cold start if I want. Kinda like that neighbor friendly mode that the Mustang has.
Yes.. I think it depends on what your used to.. the Scatpack is still really tame compared to the sound of the hellcat when you start it lol.. guess it's all relative
@@RacerX9 I think the 5.7 is a little better sounding because the displacement gives it a deeper tone, which becomes more noticeable when the mid muffler delete is done.
But yeah, the Hellcat takes the crown. Plus it's got the super charger whine.
I bought the MFR active exhaust adapter to hold open the exhaust always!! And fool the computer into thinking that it still functions as normal. No codes!! I’m going to delete the mid exhaust and Change out the mufflers to black widow “neighbor haters” !! Can’t wait!!!
That shop does excellent work. This mod is budget friendly but not the best sounding...adds cabin drone.
It costs an arm and a leg but the Corsa Extreme is worth every penny 👍🏻
Absolutely love mine.
Jason Kowalski .. I like the extreme without the long tubes.. with headers I like the sport 👍
my Challenger has mid delete no drone whatsoever
Seriously considering doing it to my 2018 T/A 392
You my good Sir are the “Hickok45” of the car space on UA-cam. When he says it a good gun.. that’s a game good gun
I got the mid and rear mufflers removed on my 2013 charger pursuit 5.7 hemi. It sounds amazing.
Just getting single black 4” round tips on each side looks AWSOME on Challengers. I think it looks better than quad tips 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 3 inch round tips fills it in nice !!!!
I've seen their sound clip videos on UA-cam. Love em
Dino D .. definitely quality work 👍
I was at Kenney’s last weekend with my 19 challenger hellcat and did the mid-muffler delete and he does great work as has done my scatpack too
how well does it sound on the hellcat? I've been going back and forth on doing it to mine.
David Hammond I love it but When I get it back by Baily’s Hyperformance I won’t have any catalytic converter’s so I kind of wish I didn’t do the mid muffler delete but if you don’t plan on getting rid of your catalytic converter’s it’s definitely a must I think
I ended up deleting the mids AND rears because I have a 6 speed and don’t have to deal with the MDS drone. SPEAKING OF WHICH, you should do a video comparing the 8 speed and 6 speed 392s! Complete with roll races. I’d love to see it.
Great video man
I took my mid mufflers and resonators out so its straight from the catback with 8 inch quad tips and I love it! she sounds mean with minimal drone
I wonder if the 8inch quad tips reduce the cabin drone. Trying to find out what I can I do, to reduce cabin drone.
I took out my resonators instead of the mid mufflers. Sounds nice. You gain SIGNIFICANTLY more exhaust volume removing the resonators
I would do this too instead of the mids.
I took my mids off today I like it but not the resonators my car came with flowmaster when I bought it should I put them back on and get rid of resonators?
@@JimmyKudo93 Yes!!!!
Big tease at the end......lol.....love the mods.....inspiring
I did this to my r/t and it sounds great!, I feel like im driving a race car!! so fun..Especially with steering wheel shift Devil horns.
Hey sounds good. Any recommendations on a muffler shop up near the frisco tx area. I'd like to get mine done as well.
Just replaced my mid mufflers with Flowmaster super 10’s and deleted the rear resonators. Awesome muscle car sound. Love your channel. Keep it up. 👍🏻
Keith M .. nice.. definitely a different and robust sound 👍
I bought my scat pack all ready with a mid muffler delete and that's always been a question but it still throws you back in the seat 😂 if any power loss probably ain't much
This is what I want to do. But I dont want to delete the res just yet. How would it sound if I delete mid mufflers replace with flow 10s keeping res on?
Jennifer Trevino
I had them start it up with the Super 10’s on before taking the rear resonators out. Was too quiet. Not loud enough. So had them removed. And it woke it up. I like it because there no raspiness it pops to it under hard acceleration. Just loud and deep. Cruising not too bad of drone. A little bit in between certain speeds. But you get used to it. 👍🏻
Good video, but I wonder if they could have added a crossover and if so, whether or not there would be any advantage to that option.
I had a 2018 Camaro and I redid all the exhaust and went full stage one. Long tube headers, high flow cats, x pipe, cat back. It was like 3000 bucks. Well, I did this muffler delete on my Challenger and it sounded better than the Camaro... I'll never spend that kinda cash again. This is a great mod.
Thanks for this Vid bro . 🙌🏾 Mid muffler delete coming soon !
Shaker Dlow .. absolutely my friend 👍
I've watched a crap ton of 392 SP content from You and Exhaust Addicts (waiting on my 2021 392 SP Charger WB order, planning mods) and I have to say that the mid delete is the single best exhaust "bang for your buck". It sounds outstanding and I personally think it beats Carvens, Dynamax bullets, the whole of Flowmasters lineup (outlaws sound amazing) and straight piping it. Sure, the $1800-$2800 kits sounds amazing...but you can't beat $150+taxes (where I am).
I have mid muffler delete on my 392 shaker & it’s the absolute best sounding scat! Definitely recommend for anybody. No drone on highway either.
It's an easy economical mod and thought about doing that with my Challenger, but I wanted to totally get rid of the stock exhaust and went for aftermarkets instead. We looked at corsa extreme as well as the borla atack, but ended up getting SLP loudmouths and are the best bang for the buck. l mainly did it for the increased diameter of the 3in, and is basically like straight piping. Except better because of that fact, and they flow so well. There's not much to them other than open chamber racing bullets on the 3in, so they're lightweight and was also a deciding factor as heavy as our big beautiful pigs are. I uploaded that decibel meter you suggested one time, and was 116 at idle
I took the mid mufflers and rear resonators off and am going long tubes with catless mids. I love the delete setup as of now. Sounds amazing on the RT
Sean K .. absolutely my friend.. when you pull the cats off it will be loud 💪
How loud are we talking? I have my resonators deleted and that cold start is pretty loud but I want to get a mid muffler delete as well
You are completely backwards… mufflers are in the rear (end of pipes). Resonator is in the middle. Next up towards the engine are the cats
Just did a dynomax mini bullet in place of the mid mufflers and the shop suggested I remove the rear mufflers and straight pipe the rear, gotta say that combo sounds incredible as well if any one is thinking about it
Is there any drone driving on the highway?
@@MichaelMiller-ci3kg Nope, unless you're in sport mode on the highway it'll raise the revs and it will be a little louder, but once you're cruising it isn't loud inside the car at all and there's no drone
Getting mine done tomorrow morning I definitely like the “”factory ish”” sound. still a great sound. But not sooo over bearing that it’s going to attract un wanted attention. Even though the scat packs
Are neck breakers already
Lol the mid muffler delete is LOUD AS HELL in person & definitely will bring unwelcome attention when you step on it lol
can’t wait to get mines done
I have a mid muffler delete and rear black widow neighbor haters in the back on my scatpack challenger. Sounds awesome
I like the quad tip look on the challengers
Ricky A Robinson .. yes me too 👍
Dang that chargers tunnel ram sounds awesome.
I got my mid mufflers deleted and added quad tips to my 2019 Scatpack. @RacerX the tips will fit even with the resonators in place. Don’t let them tell you it won’t. I have 3 1/2 inch tips added and still have my resonators
Trennedy Thomas .. strange.. we tried and they stuck out way too far .. definitely interesting
This is the muffler shop I went too for my 08 Dakota
That’s exactly what I’m looking for.
Very high quality video and a high quality shop
What size tires are those ? 275?
Btw I have the exact same scat pack like yours and same color! Love it !
I think that it's fine if someone wants to do it on the cheap, and does sound good though. I decided to just get rid of the stock pipes on my Challenger all together because they are so heavy, and also wanted the increased diameter of aftermarket pipes for better flow. So I went with the SLP loudmouth cat-backs, and are the best bang for the buck. Plus there's not much to them and are super light, as they basically consist of 3" with open chamber racing bullets. They eliminate the reso's and is almost like straight piping, but better all-around and is an option that's also inexpensive because of the simplicity of the setup and sound awesome on its 6.1
Were those drag radials that have just worn down if so are they good to still use at the track?
i have a 2010 challenger RT and replaced the resonators with flowmasters..sounds good
On the wife's 2019 ScatPack Widebody we put 60 series flowmasters and removed the resonators. Absolutely turns heads EVERY time she gets on it!!
It nearly sounds better than my Charger Hellcat running Flomaster super 10's with resonator delete
At 10:25 hello bald tires!!! Lol. The big Hemi's sound so good with doing just that or the Race bullets. Honestly probably one of the cheapest car's to do an exhaust mod. We just did a rear muffler(big ass suitcase) delete on my wife's new Camaro. It was $389 but well worth it cause it sounds amazing.
Did this the first day I got my scatpack and loved it now I just need it louder but sounds great. Shorty headers and resonator delete next.
392s already come with shorty headers. For improvement go long tube
@@taddmason1187 yeah just would get something more free flowing. Warranty is pretty damn good so I'm going to (try) to keep it. If LT headers didn't need the pcm unlocked trust and believe I'd do it.
Awesome my friend.. you won’t get really any performance gain from the shorty headers but you might pick up some sound 👍
Once I move to texas I'm gonna get the corsa extremes man no need to worry about laws anymore 🤣🤣 great vid X
HITMAN392 Would have totally got them now but currently in california and they really don't like loud cars, moving soon to texas and when I go, gonna be running long tubes catless with the corsa extremes
Looking forward to it buddy 🤜🔥🔥..
Corsa extreme isn’t as loud as my flow masters reso delete and muffler delete
Wow your hell cat sounds incredible,, can I ask what the exact set up is
SOUNDS SHARP! TOOK THE MIDS OFF AND ADDED BORLAS TO MY ‘22 REDEYE ‘JAILBREAK’ UPGRADE… FANTASTIC SOUND.. SORS - ATLANTA DID THE WORK
We both are out of Dallas-Fort worth hope to run into one day lol
Got mine done on my TA today and cost me 200 and it sounds good 👌
I did mine and love it
Found a place that’ll do it for $120. I love the stock exhaust sound so I feel that I’ll love the mod. Going this Friday
@RacerX I have a 2019 R/T Scatpack challenger and I'm running the Borla Atak full system with OEM headers. It sounds amazing. Headers are the nxt step.
EL Comandante .. nice! Borla makes a solid product 👍
I got same set up. Love it!!
Sounds good. I just replaced my entire exhaust lol maybe I should of just done this. Long tubes green cats mid pipes and a borla atak in the rear w/ mds simulators.
I like it on my charger scat pack just put on some MFR-1 this last Saturday morning and love it so far for relatively cheap exhaust mod
On 2019s you don’t need MFR-1. No codes when removing springs and wire tie flaps open
It works out great 👍
@julian I agree, I have MFER1's on my '16 Scat Pack Challenger. Great sound, no raspy shit.
At Kinney’s right now getting them removed! Definitely a top notch place!
The stock sounds good! I would be afraid to get a delete because my neighborhood is too quiet. 😆
I have the same car as Mrs. X and got a mid muffler delete. The sound of the car is 1000% better plus the snap crackle and pop I get now is amazing! Best 200$ I ever spent!
Agreed my friend.. definitely worth doing
Great content! Do you notice any difference cruising at highway speeds? I see people say that it results in a droning sound which makes me hesitant to do it to my car.
I haven’t done it yet to mine but from what I heard as long as you keep the rear mufflers there is no drone on the highway.
The drone comes from taking off the resonator which is like the back muffler. These are the mids and shouldn’t create much drone
You need the mfer1 exhaust valve simulators. It will sound much louder at idle and regular driving modes.
This with an active exhaust delete would be wicked!
sounds great! this prolly first mod i'll do to a new R/T i'm picking up this week. along with a CAI i already got in. it doesn't drone at cruising speeds does it? i hate drone! i'm hoping it doesn't since the Active-Exhaust will still be there. thanks
Got mine done a while back, cost less than $200 CAD, and sounds incredible, the video doesn't do is justice, and it sounds WAY better with the windows down. lol
I decided not to because I don’t want it to be loud at all times. Plus, I’m a believer that a car shouldn’t be loud unless they’re going fast. Thanks for the video though, very informative!
I’ve found leaving just the resonator doesn’t feel as torquey as a muffler. Went with a magnaflow and deleted resonator for a deeper sound and my butt dyno was happier too 😀
Came here for this comment. My ‘21 R/T Shaker’s stock exhaust sounds incredible at idle and low speed, but the moment I stomp on it, it sounds (and feels) like someone stuck a tennis ball up the tail pipes….slightly muffled, very suppressed. I want the engine to breathe better, and I’m thinking that opening the exhaust will help. I just don’t want to make a mistake. 😬
I replaced mine with Dynonax mini race mufflers on both Hellcats.
@Greg Anderson What is then the difference between what you did and today? I am familiar with Dynomax. Just sound? Because the cost is also minimal. Maybe you have a sound clip somewhere? That would be great. Of course yours are Hellcats. Maybe too different.
How do you like it? I have a Hellcat and I’m thinking of going that way as well.
Nice.. definitely a great alternative 👍
I didn't know dynomax was even around anymore.
@@aragureghian724 dynomax bullets temove the raspy tone around the high rpm range thats very common on muffler deletes on hemis while mataining the raw throaty v8 noise and popping and crackling associalted with muffler deletes
What's your experience on straight pipes, does it hurt the performance of the car? I heard that it can, but I don't know why it would. You'd think it'd help performance since it's taking about 80lbs off the car.
The rasp concerns me the most. When you pulled away it did not sound good. I saw someone mention that the carbon buildup will help, any changes? On a side note, great video and content, straight to the point, helps me to make the right decision.