Great show as usual Philip. The starters need a staring level point guard which means either KCP or Suggs needs to be included in the trade. I hate to even include Suggs in this conversation but JW did this when he went after a defensive minded two guard to play alongside a defensive minded two guard. We have picks and assets to land a starter.
Phillip, did you say we wont see Franz before the deadline? OMG! Thats mid-February ... Also am I the only one who is getting Serge Ibaka vibes from KCP?
Yeah, I don't think we see Franz until early February. He should be back by the All-Star Break. I do not get Ibaka vibes from KCP. Ibaka checked out on the entire team pretty quickly after arriving here. KCP is probably the best defender on the team (him or Suggs). He has been a huge net positive even without his shooting.
At some point, yes. I am still at the stage of collecting which players the Magic should target and what the Magic need. I want to see Paolo back in the fold before I think about actual trade offers. Seven weeks is a long time.
How about holding each other accountable if you’re going to be on the court? But everyone is buddy buddy instead of calling someone out that’s playing bad that’s what good teams do. Great teams. We’re tired of hearing the same things. If you can’t shoot you can’t play simple as that that’s how I would coach them , I promise you everybody will make shots then. But the coaches are gonna let some of these bums get them fired. 🔥 ,
Get on the phone with OKC and the Trail Blazers to work out a 3 way deal. The Thunder are loaded with guards we could use and honestly Jonathan Issac and KCP would fit with the Thunder. If we could some how wind up with Cason Wallace or Topic ( injured but lotto pick) and or Anfernee Simons we’d be better.
It’s time to cash out on Jonathan Issac. Using your argument that it’s not about this year in regards to winning it all makes the question relevant, what will JI be when it is time? He’s a piece for a “win now “ team and you say we aren’t in that mind set.
Im for a trust the youth process. Im not for saling off our draft picks and future unless you bring in luka which is not gonna happen. Wait until we see a superstar type of point gaurd or gaurd and then throw all your draft picks and expendable players in to move up and go get him. We need a all star level gaurd or point gaurd that can shoot and light up the stat boxes
Every season isn’t about this season 🙄. Until we expect more there’s zero pressure on this FO to do anything. How many years do we hide behind youth when our two best players are ready to win now?? Small town market and mentality
Just because this season isn't about this season doesn't mean we don't expect results. What I mean when I say that is that the team is not sold out on this season. They are still building for their future. So any move they make has to have that consideration.
Perfectly said , some people have such LOW expectations. Every professional team’s goal should be to win it all every season. Realistic or not that’s what you’re playing for not the small victories of making playoffs are making it out of the first round.
This is not a small market mentality, that is just how it works. Not saying the Magic aren’t trying win but typically most teams aren’t contending when your best players are below the age of 23. Tell me the last team to win a title when their best guys were below the age 23? The closest I believe was OKC years ago with Harden, Durant, and Westbrook. So a team is not going to go all in on a team that is still growing. Most guys aren’t winning a title until their 20s when they hit their prime. LeBron, Curry, and MJ were all in their mid to late 20s. Then you had younger guys like Kobe and Wade who both had Shaq who was a vet. At some point people need realize there is growth, contending, and declining phase and the Magic are still growing.
@ we’re not missing growth, we’re missing shooting. Youth is just an excuse when you have two players in All-NBA conversations when healthy. All we need is NBA level shooting to be competitive right now, but yeah let’s wait cause that’s how it’s done. Sure…okay
If it’s not about this season then why are we paying for tickets to go see this team hoping we win why are we paying to see this team on television phil you are absolutely insane saying it’s not about this season. It’s about every season. Oh, it should be what kind of lose a mentality is that to say, bro Unreal. So you’re saying we should expect to lose then bro you Trippin why are the fans watching them and paying our money to enjoy the games hoping for wins I’m so confused right now with everything you said.
It's about the journey. This is still an important season for growth and becoming a championship team. But the team is not selling out for this season alone. They need to keep winning. But success is not measured this year on winning a championship. Just on taking another step in the process.
Did I not see how good markelle was last year his mid range and paint % was great he can get i to the paint w ease and create open looks for his teammates only thing holding markelle back is 3pt shooting ab has a ceiling of markelle so idk why we let him go for ab tbh
No…make a trade because there are glaring holes. We know what we have. It’s the same as last year! There’s nothing left to analyze. We need shooting. We are top 3 in the league at creating open looks from 3 and like dead last in shooting. Get shooting. There’s nothing left to assess. That’s the assessment. That’s the need
Harris isn’t a good shooter anymore, nor is he ever healthy. Only thing of value we have are the picks…everything else is contracts. We screwed the pooch extending WCJ; was totally premature and unnecessary
small market mindset.. this team ownership and front office will never win a championship. there afraid to make any big move to improve and only over pay role players who dont produce aka kcp. time to sell the team get rid of weltman parker before paolo gets tired of being in this small market team.. hell sell the team to shaq for all i care
It is not about making a big move, it is about making the right move. A big move is not likely with the team still so young and needing to give so many young players room to improve. They want to see another playoff effort to know where they can still grow and where they need help. A championship is not won in one season, it is a multi-year process.
@LockedOnMagic another 1st ed exit is only going to hurt the value of the players this team has already beside franz and paolo.. and then what are you gonna say then
Never forget that Alex Martins said we should win a Championship by 2030!!! Time for the front office and ownership group to step up or step out!
Great show as usual Philip. The starters need a staring level point guard which means either KCP or Suggs needs to be included in the trade. I hate to even include Suggs in this conversation but JW did this when he went after a defensive minded two guard to play alongside a defensive minded two guard. We have picks and assets to land a starter.
I agree Sexton would be a great addition.
Phillip, did you say we wont see Franz before the deadline? OMG! Thats mid-February ... Also am I the only one who is getting Serge Ibaka vibes from KCP?
Yeah, I don't think we see Franz until early February. He should be back by the All-Star Break. I do not get Ibaka vibes from KCP. Ibaka checked out on the entire team pretty quickly after arriving here. KCP is probably the best defender on the team (him or Suggs). He has been a huge net positive even without his shooting.
Shame on you magic media getting Franz out of limelight when he shines morethan your pet bias .. you sucks😂😂😂@@LockedOnMagic
Will you go over a possible colin sexton trade?
At some point, yes. I am still at the stage of collecting which players the Magic should target and what the Magic need. I want to see Paolo back in the fold before I think about actual trade offers. Seven weeks is a long time.
The KCP signing was odd. Still need a point guard.
How about holding each other accountable if you’re going to be on the court? But everyone is buddy buddy instead of calling someone out that’s playing bad that’s what good teams do. Great teams. We’re tired of hearing the same things. If you can’t shoot you can’t play simple as that that’s how I would coach them , I promise you everybody will make shots then. But the coaches are gonna let some of these bums get them fired. 🔥 ,
That is what the Magic did at practice today. Ultimately defense is more important than offense for this team.
@@LockedOnMagic defense wins game, but offense wins championships
I was hoping for Sexton last year.
Get on the phone with OKC and the Trail Blazers to work out a 3 way deal. The Thunder are loaded with guards we could use and honestly Jonathan Issac and KCP would fit with the Thunder. If we could some how wind up with Cason Wallace or Topic ( injured but lotto pick) and or Anfernee Simons we’d be better.
It’s time to cash out on Jonathan Issac. Using your argument that it’s not about this year in regards to winning it all makes the question relevant, what will JI be when it is time? He’s a piece for a “win now “ team and you say we aren’t in that mind set.
sacrifice the defense of KCP for a consistence shooter, Sexton will be Great move!
They thought that would be KCP though!
@@LockedOnMagic yea we only thought that but .., ???
Im for a trust the youth process. Im not for saling off our draft picks and future unless you bring in luka which is not gonna happen. Wait until we see a superstar type of point gaurd or gaurd and then throw all your draft picks and expendable players in to move up and go get him. We need a all star level gaurd or point gaurd that can shoot and light up the stat boxes
Sexton and Fox are the only 2 trades that make sense
I'm cool w trading anyone besides 5,22,4,1,3,35 and 21 the rest can go for fox or sexton
Unleash McClung!! And trade Carter JR, Harris and Anthony
Are you crazy😂
@@tonyb1571No he's not
We need to give AB as much playing time as possible while Paolo/Franz are still out. See where he is a month from now.
Every season isn’t about this season 🙄. Until we expect more there’s zero pressure on this FO to do anything. How many years do we hide behind youth when our two best players are ready to win now?? Small town market and mentality
Just because this season isn't about this season doesn't mean we don't expect results. What I mean when I say that is that the team is not sold out on this season. They are still building for their future. So any move they make has to have that consideration.
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Perfectly said , some people have such LOW expectations. Every professional team’s goal should be to win it all every season. Realistic or not that’s what you’re playing for not the small victories of making playoffs are making it out of the first round.
This is not a small market mentality, that is just how it works. Not saying the Magic aren’t trying win but typically most teams aren’t contending when your best players are below the age of 23. Tell me the last team to win a title when their best guys were below the age 23? The closest I believe was OKC years ago with Harden, Durant, and Westbrook. So a team is not going to go all in on a team that is still growing.
Most guys aren’t winning a title until their 20s when they hit their prime. LeBron, Curry, and MJ were all in their mid to late 20s. Then you had younger guys like Kobe and Wade who both had Shaq who was a vet.
At some point people need realize there is growth, contending, and declining phase and the Magic are still growing.
@ we’re not missing growth, we’re missing shooting. Youth is just an excuse when you have two players in All-NBA conversations when healthy. All we need is NBA level shooting to be competitive right now, but yeah let’s wait cause that’s how it’s done. Sure…okay
We got players that are getting minutes not producing.... We got to get off some of these guys, Cole is one of them
Trade Cole Anthony and Gary Harris for Simons to be a six man off of the bench give up two seconds.
You think they will trade a very good player for those guys😂
Well they will be 😢rest for the final push and our bench has the most expirance
If it’s not about this season then why are we paying for tickets to go see this team hoping we win why are we paying to see this team on television phil you are absolutely insane saying it’s not about this season. It’s about every season. Oh, it should be what kind of lose a mentality is that to say, bro Unreal. So you’re saying we should expect to lose then bro you Trippin why are the fans watching them and paying our money to enjoy the games hoping for wins I’m so confused right now with everything you said.
It's about the journey. This is still an important season for growth and becoming a championship team. But the team is not selling out for this season alone. They need to keep winning. But success is not measured this year on winning a championship. Just on taking another step in the process.
Markelle Fultz?? 😂
Did I not see how good markelle was last year his mid range and paint % was great he can get i to the paint w ease and create open looks for his teammates only thing holding markelle back is 3pt shooting ab has a ceiling of markelle so idk why we let him go for ab tbh
No…make a trade because there are glaring holes. We know what we have. It’s the same as last year! There’s nothing left to analyze. We need shooting. We are top 3 in the league at creating open looks from 3 and like dead last in shooting. Get shooting. There’s nothing left to assess. That’s the assessment. That’s the need
Harris isn’t a good shooter anymore, nor is he ever healthy. Only thing of value we have are the picks…everything else is contracts. We screwed the pooch extending WCJ; was totally premature and unnecessary
But he's shooting 2nd best on the team
No P5 and Franz need guys who can make shots!!!!
Schröder could fit but it's too late....🤨
small market mindset.. this team ownership and front office will never win a championship. there afraid to make any big move to improve and only over pay role players who dont produce aka kcp. time to sell the team get rid of weltman parker before paolo gets tired of being in this small market team.. hell sell the team to shaq for all i care
It is not about making a big move, it is about making the right move. A big move is not likely with the team still so young and needing to give so many young players room to improve. They want to see another playoff effort to know where they can still grow and where they need help. A championship is not won in one season, it is a multi-year process.
@LockedOnMagic another 1st ed exit is only going to hurt the value of the players this team has already beside franz and paolo.. and then what are you gonna say then
Trade JI Carter and KCP useless players
Trade Wendell for bol bol.
Never forget that Alex Martins said we should win a Championship by 2030!!! Time for the front office and ownership group to step up or step out!