Birthgap - Childless World PART 1 (English Version)
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
- ** Featured at the Chelsea Film Festival, 2021 **
The era of ultra-low birthrates has begun. But why are people having so few children these days? And what are the consequences ? Come on a journey of discovery across 24 countries to find the reason and also the future consequences for young and old alike.
This is Part 1 of Birthgap - Childless World.
(c) Birthgap.org
My teenage daughter mentioned population collapse in science class and everyone laughed at her. Even the teacher. They’re still teaching overpopulation.
Yes they sadly are still teaching overpopulation without realizing a new era has begun. I'd be happy for your daughter's teacher to show the documentary in their class.... We are producing an Educator Pack to assist with Q&A afterwards.
Nothing will be done about this demographic collapse until financial capitalism and rent seekers are destroyed once and for all.
Scarlett Intelligent people don't go into teaching in the USA because the system is dysfunctional and the pay is terrible. Unfortunately, the profession attracts low IQ radical liberals.
I remember when there were kids and teenagers everywhere. Now there are just old people everywhere. It’s also kinda weird to hear how these people feel like everything has to be planned and perfect and they can’t make up their minds when, where or how to fit in a child. But if I were young in the USA Today I wouldn’t become pregnant. The USA is extremely anti-family anti-healthcare, anti-children and anti-pregnancy. It can be live threatening to become pregnant in the USA. Women are also given a designated cesarian date and don’t even get to choose to have natural birth. The whole thing is completely absurd. Everything has to be planned. Although it may be happening for different reasons, I think there could be a balancing act.
Pity for the other kids. Shame on the teacher
I do not think that there is one single issue why birthrates have dropped, there are multiple reasons. As a woman, my argument is that being a mother/motherhood is not respected and is probably considered to be of low value in the same way having a job/career is. Motherhood is not celebrated. Financially it's hard to leave the work force to look after ones kids, so work is the main focus so that a roof is over your head, and food on the table, and staying on the career ladder. Then the added issue with the instability of relationships, and the risk of divorce will also no doubt have an effect on why people have less children. Easier to support 1-2 children than 8 if your relationship breaks down.
Mmm, there's a lot more t*h*ere. I agree, motherhood is disregarded in much of society. In terms of relationship stability we do not have a society th*a*t supports relationships in any regards to anyone. Our society is now based upon *_"How much money can we make as much as possible in order to have more money than I need so that I will never not have enough._* Not, to actually being human and interacting with each other to make as many good relationships a possible. We'*v*e made it so that we have to ACTUALLY not interact with one another besides work in order do anything we would want.
No on*e* wants to have a kid that will have to quite literally do the same things as we are already doing in order to exist for infinitum. *C*ivilization is supposed to get better.
It's not getting better it's derailing.
We have a day set aside for or that celebrates mothers. "Mother's Day".
@@Eric-ej3oy That's funny. Single mothers are still being ostracized, married mothers are not given assistance. "Mother's Day" is as relevant as Christmas - doesn't really do anything but give more trash for the mothers to clean up. Unpaid cleaning, mind you, unpaid cleaning whereas a cleaner is paid at least 23 AUD per hour. Unpaid and ridiculed for being useless.
@@batelshimoni1078savage and accurate takedown of mother's day. I'm a mother of 8. Mother's day means nothing to me.
Feminism turned motherhood into a slur.
Feminism forced all of us to work more for less by doubling the workforce for the same number of jobs
Environmentalists push the idea that "humans should not have kids" to...save the planet.
And on and on and ON!
I mean, the fact that they kept saying every "industrialized" country had the same problem, seems to be the answer. The priority of those countries is money and profit at the expense of literally any other concept you can think of. Mental health, family, friendships, free time, etc. And to top it all off, calling the systems out for it only yields words like "weakness", "play hard", etc. thrown back. Or even worse, telling people to smile and be happy and proud and appreciative of the endless grind.
Well it's simple, you can't worship endless materialism and brainless entertainment and hope to keep a society together.
Having children is largely incompatible with a satisfying modern life which involves lots of sexual partners, education, career, travel, hedonism, and material goods. And there's no real easy way to make those things compatible.
Every industrialized country suffers from financial capitalism and rent seeking.
On the one hand that's true, but also no one would want to live in a non-industrialized country since people there are barely scraping by and are vulnerable to war, disease, and famine. The birth gap crisis is a crisis of luxury and of excess technology and of people chasing job titles first over family and spirituality.
@@friedawells6860 I agree. Everything always has pros and cons, trade-offs, a balance. Even if not apparent in the immediate, whatever is lost in the pursuit of some gain, will become apparent over time. There's no perfect way of living, being, feeling, etc.
Maybe its because we all work 66% of the time we are awake, and still cant afford a house.
It's not about the money. Children grow up poor the world over, but still grow up. They don't know any better. The problem is Western values has miseducated people to believe children need to be provided ANYTHING they desire, and that parents need to raise them as if they were little prince and princesses.
maybe you don't understand that hideous people want us to procreate because they need future slaves to exploit and underpay
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@@adaeptzulander2928no. Society as a whole has become unsustainable. No one can grows their own food anymore. No one can build their own homes. Inflation is increasing and wages are not. Nothing can even be provided in the first place, and if they can, it’s because 70% of the waking day is spent working to fill another’s pockets. There will be no time to raise kids
@@adaeptzulander2928wrong, kids grow up in impoverished places all around the world because of a lack of education and family planning. My financial situation is such that I could not recreate the childhood I had for my imaginary kids now. People simply cannot afford kids in this economy. We work as hard as we do just to keep afloat and live with dignity. I'm not having kids to force all of us to struggle. I for one, have seen enough struggle in childhood, I'm not the slightest bit inclined to continue such a pattern. That has to be respected as it's the responsible and sensible thing to do.
@@marianatristao6526 Seems like all your education has simply indoctrinated you to be selfish and anti-family.
I was told by a gynaecologist a few years ago that more and more women are having premature menopause at younger and younger ages. She said it so flippantly. I asked if it was known why and she said no. This is grossly overlooked. Something is amiss. Yes, career. Money. Finsnc8al and political crises. But there's something also happening to our fertility. And also men's. Is it the hormones in our food? Our water? Toxins? Stress? The pill? Radiation from our devi es? Medication?
And is it intentional?
Yes, I would agree - all of the above and I could add a few more. Our environment is toxic and that's not taking into account the social engineering we've been subjected to.
Yes, hormone disrupting chemicals and toxins; phyto and xeno-estrogens, in everything from cosmetic products to refined sugar.
That's interesting, because I was diagnosed with premature ovarian failure/ perimenopause at age 28. I have never been on the pill/had an IUD, no smoking or drinking, nor gotten the C va×, & I eat pretty healthy,. By God's grace, my husband and I were still able to have children, but it does seem so odd that so many are struggling with this. We invested in a good quality water filter because I don't trust anything, but when there's no apparent cause it's very frustrating.
I heard that premature menopause simply comes from not having become pregnant. The body was like "I don't need this anyway", like a shop owner closes early when no one came during the day.
@@SYA357 I'm sure that could be the case for many, but personally, that's not why I have it.
I got married at 20 and we wanted to start our family right away. I had my first baby 2 weeks before my 22nd birthday, had my second baby at age 24, & third at 26. I also had some chemical pregnancies between, which I believe were one of the early signs.. So it's just frustrating to not have answers or a reason.
Anecdotally- in the mid 70s my father left my mother alone to raise myself and my younger brother. The couple of friends she did have were also single mothers. As children we felt very much that we were a burden who had caused my mother a lot of suffering. The poverty was very challenging but, the relationship between us kids and our mother was the hardest thing. By a very early age I knew I was not prepared to repeat this process and I am childless. This is not a call for pity. This is just an illustration of one of the many reasons women have stopped having children. In total my father left 4 children and eventually settled with a career woman for 40 years. They did not have children. I think the collapse/destruction of the nuclear family and the security it provided must have played some part in this worrying situation.
I often wonder this as well. Like how many people are self selecting out because of bad childhoods.
exactly well said
Promiscuity and substance abuse were propagandized starting in the 70s. None of this is accidental.
I had a single mother and she was amazing. BUT she still had to sacrifice so much. And I decided that the struggle was too hard. I could not raise kids on my income without so much stress that the kids would suffer.
What an entirely devastating story and perfect illustration of society's attitude toward the family unit.
How surprising that literally making wage salves out of people and taxing them to oblivion makes them unwilling to create replacements for themselves so that their owners can keep enjoying themselves.
Love this comment XD
I've heard that Hungary is contemplating a policy of no income tax for families with 4 or more children
@@friedawells6860 well, they'll need such😂. Expensive household
Shocking isn’t it 😂
Antinatalsim ❤
Bingo
Yes, people have gone on strike the only way they can. I love joking "Have children, the people on the top of the Ponzi scheme need more people on the bottom to exploit."
What wasn’t mentioned is how raising children has changed dramatically. Uber focus on the child and their happiness at the expense of a balanced life. I raised my children this way (and as a single parent with no family help). It shows the younger generation that family life and raising children is filled with drudgery, deprivation and standing in the sidelines with no life. Maybe we need to let up on the competition, the child focused life, the impossible situations of mothers who both work and raise children. And the expectations people have for what life is (easy, without challenges, uncompromising) - I think this has been facilitated by the internet/social media.
You left out the controlled mainstream media and corporate media - the real culprits.
Precisely! And personally, I'm a father of 2 (still) young boys, and that is something that my wife and I had discussed pretty right away when we decided to start our family. "Luckily", we were both on the same wavelenght and agreed, and understood, that what we sometime call "the King child" in our corner of the world, would make us probably unhappy and ever chasing a perfect image that doesn't exist. And might disintegrate us in the end.
We discussed and agreed that only both our individual happiness, and as a couple, could make us good and viable parents. Hard to make happy kids with sad disfunctional parents...
So we've compromised all the way, a tad towards the kids still, it's the era (and because of our unending for love them too ofc), but we never lost sight of ourselves. That there should be space and time for ouselves too, that our lives should not be entirely and solely governed by the needs of the children. And I mean the morden "needs", beyond love, safety, food, warmth, stimuli, kindness, etc.
There has been time when we said, no kiddos, we're gonna do this, we're gonna go there or we're gonna do it this way. Yes, even if you two adorable little monkeys are unsatisfied with it. And explained to them kindly that mummy and daddy also have to be happy to be good parents. I think they always understood. And I'd say it's proven to be for the best so far.
So yeah, I believe you're right about that aspect of nowadays parenting, the social image of perfection that is ingraned in us and expected from parents, has completely unnatural expectations, often unrealistic, and so often counterproductive in the end. Especially to young parents, already naturally terrified at the prospect of being responsible for a little life.
And this is one more huge incentive not to have children I'm sure, or at least to be scared engouh to delay it for ever longer, anf for ever more people it seems. Add economical stress, polution, news echo chambers about extreme safety atmosphere/incident issues, loss of hopes in the future and politics and governance, rampent poverty and the discusting distribution of wealth... and so many other stressful factors.... well this ain't the spirit of the 50's for sure.... Sad, but real.
God I'm glad and thankfull for my family and my children. I know I would have died a lonely, grumpy and sad old man otherwise ^_^ Love. Be kind!
Cheers
@@goergeskaplan2910my parents raised us this way and now as grown adults who are all married, we are grateful they had that foresight. I always knew “mom came first to dad and dad came firs to mom” it made me secure. I remember one incident where my brother and I were teenagers arguing with our mom and my dad said “ you will not argue with my wife in my house”. It reminded me that she’s more than “just” my mom, she is also “his wife” and she was his wife long before she became my mom, and as much as in my mind I could argue with “my mom” arguing with “his wife” is unacceptable 😂. So i believe your children will not only appreciate your approach, but it is the best way of setting them up for success. You and your wife are the foundation holding the whole family together, and a strong foundation ensures that the house will always be safe.
💯 our lives revolve around trying to make sure our kids are always having fun
This is why the French way of rearing children is the best.
Im 63. My dad supported a wife and 6 children. He was a blue collar worker and we were middle class, lived quite comfortably. Bring those days back please!
They can’t. We’re too greedy. If wages rose enough that we could afford a large family on one wage, we”d still have two wages a bigger house, more cars and more social media presence. The planet is imposing its own balance on us once again.
It's a myth. Your parents likely worked way harder than people do today.
Hi mate, not going to happen. There was less taxation back then, houses were more affordable etc. Basically its way more expensive now.
This is the whole problem. You need two incomes to raise a family. It’s hard to just pay for yourself let alone a child. I wanted children but I never found someone to have them with and I don’t want to be a single mother. It’s very sad.
To do that people need to go Vegan since most of the resources food, fuel, water and land is going to raise farm animals that is the real reason and beside meat, dairy and eggs destroy human health that cause also wasting resorces to treatment of preventable deseases
A great shoutout to the woke Cambridge students. Without their boycott and protests, i would have never heard of this great film.
Classic example of the streisand effect.
lmao
Thata how I got here too
same here!
Love it!
Nailed it!
I'm 35 and our third daughter was born 3 weeks ago. This documentary is making me feel slightly better about our exhaustion. Having kids is hard but it's undeniably the ultimate purpose in life. I have no doubt about. I just put my older 7 and 5 yr old daughters to sleep and told them how much I love them. feeling the love be reciprocated is absolute magic and does not compare to my career successes
For you maybe. For other (many) people only having kids is not enough
@@HelloKitty-kb7ji many people are selfish
Assuming you have a husband to help you. I agree with you 💯. It is exhausting especially when a single parent must raise the children alone and find the means to support them alone. Motherhood should be valued more in society.
@@bumblebee8653 Hehe your username made me giggle for obvious reasons (it's cute). But yes I agree with you, Motherhood and Fatherhood MUST be valued more by society.
@@HelloKitty-kb7ji he did not say that 'only having kid' is enough. By his words you can see that he values both, family and career success but his kids give him the most joy.
There are also the issues of:
1. Men and Woman not wanting to be married to each other anymore, not even wanting relationships anymore. A genuine war of the sexes now that's also leading to the single/loneliness crisis.
2. The alarming rate of divorces makes marriage undesirable
3. Couples moving away from parents and extended families to seek jobs elsewhere, leaving the tremendous burden of raising children solely on the couple (while having to balance their careers, pay the bills etc), while previously it was distributed among grandparents, uncles, aunties, older cousins, neighbours etc.
The western culture's obssession over 'self-reliance' is really bonkers. It really does take a village to raise children. But somehow, here in the west, we keep telling ourselves and each other that we gotta do everything on our own or else we'd be seen as a 'burden' to family. The whole mentality of 'get out of the house once you turn 18' is so messed up tbh.
Precisely. It’s crazy in every way. Currently the couple move away from parents and the parents are left to live lonely and depressed lives as they grow old and helpless. The couple take up a place in some city for work, have kids whom they’ll have to raise alone or pay expensive daycare to look after, while having full-time jobs.
Finally the parents live alone and depressed, the couple is burnt out raising kids on their own, and the kids grow up with parents who barely have time for them, and they don’t receive the love and wisdom from grandparents who are yearning to give it to them.
Grandparents lose children and grandchildren, children lose the support and help of parents, the grandchildren grow up without guidance or the care and wisdom of grandparents. Everyone loses. This has probably never happened in human history at this scale.
I think it’s got to do with the education system. We’re educated for jobs that are mostly available only in cities and so are forced to move away, creating the above cycle. If this doesn’t change we’re all doomed. We need to plan to get out of this mad, senseless cycle that’s clearly changing the course of the human race for the worse.
I’d like to add- lazy boomer parents that show no help or support as being grandparents. This makes situations on young couples harder to financially support themselves and be parents without the support from grandparents
Point 3 is why the 'nuclear family' was the start of the problem.
That’s very true.. which probably connects to opting for jobs in cities (one reason being the “big city” dreams that’s been shown in movies for the past many decades?), a consumeristic mindset that can be funded only by city jobs, the Education system that basically provides skills only for jobs available in cities. All leading to moving to cities, away from joint families, increasing the burden of raising children, increased cost of living, etc
Couple that with the general individualistic attitude that’s encouraged as “cool”, and war between sexes (ultimately leading to loneliness), and it’s a perfect recipe for population collapse.
They made life expensive, economy unsustainable, environment slowly uninhabitable, and yet they wonder - why are people not having kids?
That’s a complete lie!
Nah… I know people who have big house, 3-5 rooms yet do not have children. It’s just wife and husband enjoying life 🙂. I feel it’s a personal choice these days. I’m currently pregnant and still living in apartment. My partner and I married late and started our life a bit late cause we weren’t sure what we were doing in our earlier years. But never late than never! Idk some people call me irresponsible though because I don’t have big home; yet they idealize people who have big homes yet no kids. Kids aren’t as valued these days; they’re considered a burden
@@eatnplaytodaypeople with big homes and no children are absolutely a negative on society.
They inflate the value of homes because they can afford to pay more while at the same time not using the space they take. An absolute bane on society.
@@boxjointeconomy is unsustainable which is why markets crash. It’s literally just part of any economic system.
Life is far more expensive because wages have not increased at the same rate as inflation
Environmental uninhabitable… yeah that’s not true and doesn’t really make any sense.
They were still 66% correct
Exactly- the boomers screwed the younger generations and now wonder why no one’s breeding. They bought a house for $1k and mum stayed at home. So there’s a gap right there.
Every one of my friends in Vancouver canada who haven’t had kids cite affordability as the reason. We all waited till our 30’s to have kids and now we are all turning 40 and yet most of us aren’t anywhere ahead financially than we were 5-10 years ago.
Do those same friends spend thousands of dollars on pets, gadgets, and a fancy car?
Lol vancouver..my home town.. destroyed by greed on all levels. Good job im old and do not have to live there.
@@Sisterlisk That's exactly right. In Germany also. Couples invest in dogs and cats, but no children.
@sharegreats2157 such an empty life, if you're able to have children but won't
@@sharegreats2157Dogs and cats cost a fraction of what children do.
"Career. Career. Career. Career. Career. Wrong time. Not enough money."
Hmmm.....almost like the economic system is the problem.
That is good example inductive fallacy. This has nothing to do with economic system. It has clear correlation with means of production. When your means of production are primitive, you can increase your personal production by using children as non paid labor. So one have beneficial midterm invesment, that starts to give results after 6 or 7 years. When you have sophicticated means of production, you have very long term invesment. Until your invesment did not start paying back, it is all cost to you. Majority of humans are not very good with long term investments, our brain does not work this way. So, you have depopulation in all economic systems, as long as means of production advanced, so one can not use his kids as labor.
@@abupinhusproduction is bullshit anyways. We produce more now than any other time in history and are supposedly better off than ever before. But all we have to show for it is a metric shitload of overpriced garbage that's supposed to distract us from how shit it is we have work in other men's castles. Shit's a scam.
@abupinhus so you have taken the elitist view, make babies to have them serve your 'system' mindset. Another thought could be that children bring joy by their sense of wonder. Children can encourage someone to be a better person and want to sacrifice and share. They actually help make familial bonds, both immediate and extended, and build communities. Children grow up and leave. They are only a good long-term investment if they are part of a monetary system, where you get a very small percentage of that child's production.
Not true it's all about status. In America right now we have African immigrants who take fast food jobs and raise a family in apartments. Americans are just spoiled and want the best of everything all the time
We are not seen as humans anymore. We are increasingly seen as cogs in the financial system to make the upperclass even richer. We are born into a world were heritage and inheritance is worth more than hard work. In a world where money is everything.. many feel defeated. We do not have time for family or children anymore. We work ourselves to the grave. What point is there to bring a child (or more) to a world like that? If you truly love children.. do not bring them into this world if you are not able to spend enough time with them and give them stability. I am well educated with a good salary.. but my work demands to much time from me.. for me to even consider having a family. We are no more than well educated modern slaves with suits and ties. When more people draw that conclusion.. this is the result. "How many slaves do you intend to raise?" It's either that or give a *single* kid a large inheritance so he can live a better life. You can't have two, three or four children in todays society. That in combination with climate change and the expensive house-market is making the decision rather easy for people aged 20-40. And do not even entertain the thought of what todays 10 year olds will decide when they are 20-40. They will more than likely bring us down to 0.2 - 0.6 / woman.
I come home.
3h "free-time"
I go to bed.
Wake up.
Work.
Repeat.
We are not masters of our own lives. We are simply here to complete tasks that are currently too advanced to automate. For many.. that will soon change. As a result of our prosperity during the 20th Century we should have been awarded more free time with family, 25h-30h work weeks. But instead the rich just got richer. Why earn money if you can't even spend time with your loved ones? What is the point of having children if you have to work 60h/week, or more? Kid will just grow up without knowing his parents.
Also.. traditional values aren't cherished anymore. Divorce is a very common occurrence nowadays compared to 1900s-1970s. People break up all the time, over tiny things. Which makes it even harder to envision a "happy family" future. You have to consider all sorts of outcomes.
Total Rubbish ! A whole lot of people hard a harder life than YOU years ago and they all managed to fit it into their daily lives. Some went to war for years, some had to do shift work, some did overtime or created a business, which is hard work. Excuses, excuses; make time and make it work for you and your kids.
It's not rubbish. We see what happens to children born in even harsher times/environment. They suffer a lot. Lots of violence or starvation. Child labor too. Exteme poverty means children work full time jobs in sweat shops or even partake in prostitution for a bit of food. @@linmal2242
@@linmal2242 These people had no choice. Women got pregnant and they had another mouth to feed. A hard life I wouldn't choose. And now we can choose.
@@linmal2242Previous generations are also known for dysfunction, domestic violence (🤢), poor mental health, child labor (🤮), substance dependence, and really just uncivilized “values” in general. As a millennial, there really is nothing about the culture associated with Gen X’ers and Baby boomers, or any other generation that I would describe as commendable or respectable. Just bc people were more likely to get and stay married does not mean they were high quality parents in healthy marriages. The biggest difference between then and now is that
1) back then people didn’t actually care about children, their well-being or opportunities. Procreation was always thoughtless and self-centered for most ppl whereas now, people are more likely to actually think about their reproductive choices and make decisions relative to their capacity to provide a quality, optimal life for children since that’s what they deserve.
2) Women really didn’t have a lot of options and
3) people of both sexes in general had fewer employment options.
That’s all changed now though bc many more people have options that allow them to deviate from chaos and struggle. So that’s what we do. You mad?
It goes without saying that I absolutely love this. Great work mate. Keep grinding!
Views have quadrupled since I was on your Modern Wisdom podcast 2 weeks ago. Thank you Chris!
Chris, it's Your "fault" I found out about this documentary!
Thank You!
Just watched both shows back to back.
You're all getting lost on 'why are women choosing to have fewer kids?', when the answer is in the question. Choice. Because they have a choice now. And having kids is scary, so given the choice a lot will avoid it. Women are choosing to have fewer kids because they can *choose* and it happens everywhere you give them more choice/options. The result of diluting the options you have from one to two is that it's a zero sum game. Choice will reduce the birth-rate by exactly the number of women who choose not to have kids. Choice is the problem here. Women didn't used to have these choices. That's what has changed. The birthrate drop does coincide with options increasing for women.
I wouldn't call choice the problem. It's the mechanism, sure. The actual problem is discouraging the choice. Looking down at motherhood and family life. A failure to make up for the village we humans once had to help raise a child. In that environment, not many want to choose for a family.
@@DennisNeijmeijer But isn't that the point? What has 'changed' to cause birth rates to go down? You can't really fix it if the cause was giving ppl choice. And choice will cause a massive drop off in the birth rate. All the ppl who choose to not have kids represent fewer kids than would have been born without that choice. Binary choices are zero sum, so the choice must necessarily reduce the birth rate by everyone who makes that choice.
I'm not saying ppl should be unwilling parents. I'm just pointing out that no one feels ready for kids really, so when it happens most ppl are terrified, even when it's planned. Throughout history we just got through that fear and ended up glad we had kids. Now a lot of people are chickening out when nature tries to force their hand, then it never comes at the 'right time' because there really isn't a right time & you're never ready.
Thanks to "Redacted" covering the Cambridge students and their protests I ended up here. Can't wait to watch part II and III.
Same! Way to go Redacted!
Lol me too!!! Amazing
Me too 😊
Same here!😂
Me too
@birthgap I'd like to propose the solution: Older people need to accept that if they want grandchildren AND educated daughters, the grandparents need to BE THERE to help raise the grandkids. Commit to your children, especially daughters, that you will be there to help shoulder the burden of dishes and laundry and diapers and picking up from school and everything else. NOT living your best lives playing golf in Florida or Arizona.
We evolved as intergenerational families with aunts and uncles and grandparents always around to help raise kids. Modern life has fooled us into thinking we can get by with just a nuclear family of 2 parents and the kids. Dropping birthrates and the mating crisis is showing us that is not the case.
Knowing that my wife and I would have ZERO support from our families absolutely was a factor in not having children.
That's nice in theory and it used to be the norm, BUT it doesn't acknowledge that feminism encourages the delay or abstinence of starting a family and openly disparages the life choice of motherhood.
@@RCCarDude You want to blame Feminism, others blame religion or not enough religion, others blame patriarchy or pro-choice or porn and video games distracting men.... I'm sure they're all factors to some extent but they're all irrelevant in regard to what Grandparents can do to influence their own young adult daughters and sons.
This makes me think of the number of older siblings who choose to be childfree because their parents forced them to raise younger siblings.
When I look at my young children (who often tell me how much they want to be mommies and daddies one day), this is exactly what I know my husband and I will want to do for them. We were exceedingly lucky to find each other young, become well educated, and he entered a very lucrative field. So when we were in our late 20s, I could stay home with our babies and we could afford to hire help, since none of our family lived nearby to help us. We have been very lucky and I worry that our children will need much more help if they are going to have families of their own one day.
@@tonkashouse I don't want to "blame" feminism but I definitely understand why you could read my comment that way. I should have been more clear: feminism has basically won the culture war and because of that any shift in culture away from female individualism will be seen as a shot across the bow at feminism.
Give us a future worthy of our children and we might have more.
Make your own future. Are you really so helpless?
@@MyBelch don't deal with society?
Is it possible your expectations are too high? When in history have average people had more security than today?
@@MyBelchwe are making our own future.
Without kids. 😂😂😂
#BreedYourOwnWorkers
Not stoping the Africans. Isn't that strange? Why is the mentality of non-African women so different?
How can young people start a family if they cannot even afford a home?
The journey of a thousand miles...
I mean....apartments and other housing situations exist.... you don't HAVE to be a home owner to provide shelter for your children. And before you say anything about high rent, In America at least there are programs for first time home buyers that allow people who would otherwise never be able to buy a home, be able to get a home and get approved for a loan with an interest rate as little as 5 percent. Other initiatives and programs may even buy the property outright for you, and then just set up a direct loan where you just repay them directly every month with little or even no added interest!! There are ways to do it!!! People need to STOP using homeownership as an excuse for not having at least one to two children.
@@Eph5wife4life That's just bullshit. There is a difference between being able to physically own a home and being a serf just paying back interest on a loan where you never accumulate any financial security through paying the principal. The issue is not the home in and of itself (or even apartment if you want to go there), it's the financial security. Even if every young person alive were given homes, most of them wouldn't even be able to afford living in them.Try having a 15k$ repair on a home with a monthly take home pay after expenses of 500$... that's 30 months of paying back without accounting for interests or other expensive life events!!!
The real issue is that for years incomes have been stagnant and regressing in purchasing power to afford the salaries of old people, their entitlement programs and their housing ponzi schemes. Housing affordability is just a symptom of this. When people say they can't afford a home, they are saying more than just ''homes are expensive'', they are implying ''everything else is expensive'', they are implying ''my salary is too low to cover living expenses even if I buy a house'' and they are implying the money is somewhere else if it's not in their pockets.
@@Cocoisagordonsetter The difference between having kids and a teepee and having them in an apartment is that you don't have a fiancial obligation by living in a teepee... while living in an apartment implies you have a landlord asking for rent and if they are anywhere near the average (or even below), the rent they are asking is extortion and that means there is no money left at the end of the month to pay for another person's food, clothing, additional room, education and transport, let alone entertainment.
@@Cocoisagordonsetter Let's clear some things up here :
-I've been happy with my current partner for close to 2 years now and we both frequently talk about having children and marrying and we both have been wanting children for as long as we can remember. Better luck next time on that one.
-I've been living in a metropolitan city where I am for a couple years out of necessity for studying in my engineering field. I have been despising this lifestyle for about as long as I got here and I have been looking everyday at opportunities to leave to a more rural/suburban town since I graduated. Nowhere in your weirdest dreams would I even come close to having an urban mindset and neither does my partner.
-Housing is not better in rural/suburban areas where I live. The housing market in Canada is on the brink of collapse pretty much everywhere in roughly proportionnal measures for sitting on the biggest housing bubble of history. By all measures, we should be starting to see panic selling any month now when the refinancing wave starts hitting people with double their montly payments for sitting on a house overpriced by 100% when they bought during the pandemic at near 0% interest rates.
Here is my 2 cents :
-Living in a teepee is hippy shit you can't really easily pull off anymore if you have anywhere near the average level of societal obligations. I can't suddenly leave everything I have and go build my own home in the woods and have 5 children. First of all, it would be irresponsible to raise them isolated in a way preventing them from interacting with the broader world and understanding the ways of society. Second of all, it would be irresponsible to leave our famillies. Finally, it would just make no sense with my current way of life for many more subtle reasons.
-In the end, I am simply not going to have children under a financial situation where they are guaranteed to fail either and no rational person should be expected to. I have my own plan going forward and I will most likely be fine myself in the long term with my own family, but if we want to solve the demographic bomb for everyone (not just my personal above average situation that is just threading along somewhat fine by lucky circumstances), the economy is what we need to fix, not the rational choices people make as a result. Old people need to stop expecting the world to be given to them by the younger generation and pension/healthcare systems should simply be abolished as they are for being pure financial drains and ponzi schemes on the younger adults to profit the old. The young adults mathematically will not even have the money to pay into it enough to keep it running anyway in a matter of 5-10 years because of the lack of adults coming of age... There's only so much that can be accomplished on public debt denominated in currencies that are printed and losing value by the hour above 100% public debt/GDP ratios.
We have four kids. They are quite spaced out, but that's just how they came. We live relatively poor and simple lives because of this. Ever since our first (in 2002) our friends said, "Oh I wish I could afford to have children." Many of those friends remain childless to this day.
We have 4 kids too & we lived a relatively poor & simple life as well. That has never bothered us. One of our grandchildren is soon to be the father of 3 - good for him.
You are far richer for having them.
maybe you couldn't "afford" it. but you did it anyway and you're all alive. We act as if financial success and even stability is the primary goal in life when so many of our ancestors could never dream of the economic positions we hold today, globally...
I married late, by the time we felt we could afford children I was in my late 30s. I was very lucky. I lost the first. Then had my first son. Was told not to have anymore as it was a health risk. But I took the risk and had a second. I never thought about the cost of raising children. We were poor but had a roof over our heads, food, and clothes. We didn't take big vacations. Both boys went to college and one got a masters. Yes, I'm still poor by a lot of people's standards. I stayed home with them till they were in their mid teens. Best job I ever had.
You can never "afford to have children." Regardless of your lifestyle, your money will have to go farther. If your idea of a night out is Denny's, you'll be replacing that with McDonald's. If you get a new car every year and totally upgrade your wardrobe seasonally and redecorate your house every time trends change, you'll still have to cut back on things you've come to think of as "necessities." So if you "wait until you can afford kids" you'll never have them. You just have to have them and find your joy in them, not in material goods.
Workism = no time, no money, no future, no meaning beyond productivity.
Workisim=Capitalisim
@@Silver77cyn Should we apply Communism then?
@@MrSandman_0981 Nope.
@@Silver77cynNice well rounded argument. Just stellar
People seeking financial freedom while being enslaved to their jobs.
After caring for parents and grandparents, who can afford kids or have energy to start a family of their own? A one bedroom is so expensive. How can you afford to have kids, pay childcare, and buy a house in today’s global economy?
Look at rural Japan.
Abandoned wooden houses for $10k.
Don’t pay for childcare! Look for a husband who makes good money and take care of your child yourself!!
I don't expect my children to take care of me, and any parent who does is wrong.
@@CharlotteMEllett when your parents make you a caregiver for your siblings at a young age, you’re not thinking about adding another mouth to feed or an additional bill to pay because you never had a choice. Btw… caring for your elders is the right choice.
@@piedradesechadaIt is far smarter for a woman to go out and make her own good money as there is a clear, documented historical pattern of the negative prospects that go along with women being financially dependent on a man. You are safer to just adopt as a high earning single woman or freeze your eggs and attempt motherhood once you’ve become established on your own. But encouraging young women to be broke dependents is encouraging them to be idiots.
I wanted to say that the women I know personally who chose not to have children did so because - They did not want to have a relationship with a man because, in their life experience, that meant being beat-up. Other women that I know chose not to get married because, in their observation, that was the equivalent of becoming a house slave. They saw their Mothers work themselves to death on the altar of their families. The ones I knew personally, who were not happy with family life, were locked into marriage with an unfaithful husband. I reckon I would sum up the reason why a number of women might choose to not get married and have children is because - they do not want to live in fear, did not want domestic violence, did not want an unfaithful husband, did not want to be absorbed by their husband every minute of every day for the rest of their lives. I am stating some experiences. A good man with honorable qualities (faithful, honest, self-control, patience, self-sacrificing, hard-working, loving) is worth his weight in gold.
😅😂keep waiting for your good man, you might find him before the age of 60
Women only care about men being attractive. If you're not attractive you don't exist.
@@4chukwuebuka waiting?? 😂no. There is no a good man
@@rose-yeah 😕 so no 60 years old woman marriage?
Blablabla typical women babbling. You and your friends probalby already rejected hundreds of good men because he was too boring or whatever. And being a housewife today is a total cakewalk copared to 60 years ago. Keep crying and have fun with your cats drama queen.
Hope this video blows up - came from your podcast with Chris Williamson and so pleased I found it. Thank you!!
Thank you for your kind words. Glad you enjoyed it.
@@birthgap I disagree that low birth rates have no cause across societies. I'd say the cause would be liberalism as apposed religious patriarchy -- with all the other things that come with liberalism, feminism, pluralism etc. All the nations that have low or tending to lower birth rates have liberal economic models and slowly but surely liberal cultural norms. Saudi Arabia is now becoming more liberal after nearly a 100 years of religious tandem rule with its elites.
Same
Same, came from Chris's podcast.
@@scriptozavr Welcome!
We need to make it a valued career to have and raise children. We also need to make it possible for a household to be able to live on one income like it was in the older days.
This is so true
Or let in more migrants
So repeal the 19th ammendment then? Because that's the only way this is undone
They reward families with cash incentives for each child they have in Russia.
Well in the US there is not maternity paid leave they call that socialism
"When the ordinary thought of a highly cultivated people begins to regard 'having children' as a question of pro's and con's, the great turning point has come."
Oswald Spengler
But that is not what he has shown. It is when people don't plan ahead to have the kids they want that things go wrong.
@@stephenhoughton632My daughter was born exactly 1 week after my 18th birthday (1996)... She was not planned. Her father and I had been dating for several years, and we decided to get married. Neither of us went to college, both of us have GEDs. He worked and I stayed home, it didn't make financial sense for me to work because childcare would have eaten up my entire paycheck at the time. I found ways to earn extra money at home. I began selling cakes and baked goods.😊 By the age of 21 we were able to buy our first house. At 25 we started our own event planning and catering business. Our daughter is now 27. She is a college graduate with a Bio/ Chemistry degree, married, and they just bought their first home last year. Your priorities become your reality... There will never be an ideal time in life to have children. You can make all of the plans you want, but life rarely goes in accordance to plans, so you have to understand how to be flexible and make the best of every situation you find yourself in. Some of the best things in life are the things you never planned on.
Did he really say that? Is there a source for that quote?
@@yurigansmith The Decline of the West Volume 2, Knopf edition, page 104.
(Oh, and yes, he really said that.)
Incredible
We have turned having children into an expensive burden. I can't tell how many times I've heard the argument that a person should or is waiting to get financially stable before they think about kids dont know how it is in other countries but this is the common sentiment here in the U.S. Also something to think about, the whole conversations surrounding abortions should come into play.
Edit: I commented before I even finished watching this. This was really interesting and good
Having children is largely incompatible with a satisfying modern life which involves lots of sexual partners, education, career, travel, hedonism, and material goods. And there's no real easy way to make those things compatible.
@@someonesomeone25 brain dead take. Its about money and security for the children created
@@whyaminotoriginal I disagree.
Social media has ruined women's minds. Statistics gleaned from dating websites verify that 80% of women are chasing 20% of the men.
It's a trap because i doubt many people become what they consider finantially stable enough to have children, which actually means belonging to the upper middle class, something that it's very very hard in my country and many others
"and we know what happens with below replacement birth rates" - yes we know. After 4 or 5 generations everyone can afford a place to live. Indoors. This is wonderful.
After 7 or 8 generations, nature begins to heal. Our living planet remains a living planet. The end of reproductive greed is our best chance for long term survival.
And not fight for jobs that pay enough to survive and have families
This is the only sane comments I've seen so far. 😄
Wrong, automation will take the jobs, populations will centralises into cities and the prices will remain high, if not highest ever as location will be everything.
Are you homeless? You can’t afford a place to live but have the luxury of an iPhone to post this comment?
My husband and I raised 4 children on one very modest income in Seattle when all we heard was that it was impossible. We lacked nothing of ultimate importance. We went without, spent wisely, and even tithed 10% to our church. We saved our money, bought a fixer-upper that we renovated ourselves and that is now paid for. None of our kids graduated college because they chose not to. All of them married young (just like we did). They and their spouses all have 3 children each and are are now raising them on one income. They too, all own their homes and swap babysitting with their siblings because we're a close family. Because of it, all the grandchildren see each other regularly and adore each other. It's a good life that I wouldn't trade.
Are we all strange anomalies or is it just a lie that it can't be done?
Thanks for this. I so much needed to hear this
Wow very inspiring! Do you have any extra advice for someone who would want to live like you? My fiance and I are starting out our journey together this year. We are both 25 and desiring to have a godly marriage.
@@divinedela9125 I'm so happy to hear this! It really can be done!
@@friedawells6860 Really? Wonderful! We have found that God's ways are good and can be trusted even when it feels impossible or just too hard. Godliness with contentment IS great gain! Blessings to you both as you start your adventure together😘
@Walking Right Here Thank you so much! I'll take that to heart. God has already done many wonderful things in my life including bringing my fiancé, Jacco, into it. I really believe that His ways are the best. Please pray for us ❤️
PART 2 and 3 needs to be released, this documentation is so important for humanity.
Saw you on Chris Williamson. Amazing documentary. More people need to see this before it’s too late.
Thank you Henry
It's already too late. Capitalism, feminism and misandric laws have destroyed families, prevented families from forming, and promoted the promiscuous female. Women who have high body counts don't make good wives or good mothers.
A lot of people aren’t gonna have kids for ethical reasons, look up Antinatalsim. This is wonderful news for us.
Excellent analysis and long overdue conversation. My eldest of three children is my only girl. She went on to college after high-school and married her college sweetheart right after the graduation. Rather than her pursuing a career they made the conscious decision to start a family. It was tough on only his income, but he is a dedicated father and a hard worker. I now have three precious grandchildren who have the benefit of two parents and a stay at home mom. A real success story!
An educated mom, at that. Well done, all.
That is awesome - well done to you and to your daughter - and her partner. I think many people shy away from struggle nowadays, and live in constant fear of it such that they never have children for fear of not being able to support their family: but it is false reasoning, as you simply find a way to support it. People need faith in their own ability to find ways to support their family.
Happy for you but want to point out that at any moment her husband could have died and then she would be stuck with 3 children + a degree but very outdated (or no) work history.
My mother was in that position when trying to go back to work after being a SAHM for several years. The worst part is that she never paid into social security so now everything she makes is for that goal. My father made great money as an engineer btw
@MadFlourish Isn't there life insurance policies for sudden or accidental death? I was a stay at home mom for 25 years, when my youngest went to 12th grade, I started working again at my husband's company and don't regret either option. It was wonderful to be there for my kids and it's great working again. It's not that complicated. You adapt to your circumstances. My 3 kids, one is working in the company, the other just graduated and has a job, the 3rd one is still a student. Kids don't live with you forever, they become independent. They all had part time jobs. I'm sure each situation has it's own challenges, but being frugal in any situation you find yourself in, make life bearable. No situation, can not be overcome!
💜🦋🤗
As a childless senior, here's what I've felt and noticed. Parenthood is a thankless, expensive and often tedious job, while at the same time is highly judged both by those close to you and by strangers.
How many times do you hear parents say "I can't wait to have grandchildren!"? This is a common refrain. IOW, I like children, and I like them even more when I can have fun with them, and don't have to be responsible to raise them.
Children used to be a necessity, because there was manual work to be done, and soon even very small hands would be picking up kindling to bring to the fire, or hauling cups of water to moisten the garden. In modern times, there isn't this need, and it's more commonly expected now that children have a prolonged childhood free of any responsibilities.
I don't know what the answer is. I know I would have been a crap*y parent. I didn't want to subject anyone to that sort of childhood. It takes a dedicated and emotionally healthy/available person to raise a child. I laud them. I just knew it wasn't for me.
@@Shaa-Belle Awesome. I've lived the life I always wanted.
I'm a 35 year old woman and I feel the same way. I am a teacher and enjoy working with kids, but parenting isn't for me. I also don't want to bring children into an increasingly troubled world. I see the argument that population decline can be a problem within our given economic systems but I think overall it's a positive. We need to live more simple, quality lives. Musk and electric cars are not a solution to the environmental crisis. Fewer people living less modern lives is. I hope wildlife will regain habitats.
@@user-sm7pm1df3e For you to answer that it means that, or you still didn't understand, or you actively WANT humanity to desapear from the planet. It isn't just a matter of "Oh it will remain a happy bunch, living in peace with cows and chickens." No. To colapse, it means, we will vanish. For good. If you are ok with that, you are more indoctrinate than you might think. And that would just prove more the point of the video.
And you have 35. Wait to reach to 45. It will get lonely pretty fast and pretty hard. Just listen to the older woman of the video. They are not happy. They are very sad and regretted. And you think you will be different? You will not. Sadly, you will read all I'm saying here and think you are still right.
@@user-sm7pm1df3e the more you age the worse it will become
Good for you :] As long as you are happy.
"Raising children is hard. If it was easy, fathers would be doing it." - Dorothy Zbornak, "The Golden Girls".
;)
Single mothers are the worst burden on society... Statistically.
@@user-rj2zm7ub2k 💯!! Single motherhood is a direct result of poor decision making… leaving the gov’t and tax payer dollars to pick up the slack 😕
So FUNNY, to insult fathers as 2nd class parents, hilarious! Oh wait, where did all the good men go? Far away from people like you, and even from 'fatherhood', as that's become a sick joke now, if not a crime men are punished for. Now scroll up and watch the video again, then keep laughing.
Takeaways:
• 80% of childless women are not childless by conscious choice
• economics, whether crises or careers, explain why they don't have children
I want someone to explain to me, an Indian 20 year old woman, how am I supposed to change my mindset of not having kids or be married when I made the decision based off on everything I've seen growing up in India. In our society we still have a lot of traditional households, where the woman leaves her parents' house and goes to live with her in-laws and her husband. What this results in ( I'm sorry for generalizing here) is the berating and disgraceful position she is put in by the husband and in-laws over the years. We've all heard it happen so often , maybe she gave birth to a girl child, maybe she did not bring enough dowry, maybe she is of a different cast or class etc. She can't leave because of the kids and "what will society say" ( trust me this is a big issue in India, we think of society before we think of ourselves) and over the years being a housewife is not enough and not honorable anymore. If she is a more modern woman and has a job, she is still demoralized and demeaned about not being a good mother to her kids and not being present all the time. If she then chooses to get help from outside like hiring a nanny that's considered shameful.
Now coming to the even more complicated mental battle we have to play is the generational trauma we pass around in India for the sake of bonding I guess. We are all constantly seeing our parents struggle because of their financial or educational position. Making us believe that money and education is of vital importance. Children are not. We have our role models tell us that we must think for ourselves and love ourselves first, family is important but only the one we currently have and not the one we would be making. Our parents give their emotional burden to us, especially if you are the older child and we are supposed to somehow take in this out pour of trauma from a 50 year old person as a 20 year old, rationalize it in our heads and be okay with feeling helpless about it. Now why would I have kids when I've seen all these examples of not having them? How do I convince myself that in 2023 if were to find a guy and have kids with him all this and more would not push me to insanity?.
I'm not indian so I can't speak to your position exactly. I did have generational trauma though that put me off having kids originally. Having a kid and raising them the way I wanted to be is the best thing I've ever done with my life, you have to be strong to put a stop to passing on the trauma. This is probably a lot easier when you gave your own house though ❤
❤true. Your own home is key. It is not a popular idea, but in Japan they have this term 'vanishing' it removes elder care. Move away. As a parent I insist that the young enjoy their lives, have children if you wish. Stop caring for elders. Govt. Needs to remove insurance companies from the equation. If we have a health system everyone pays into, instead of giving it to Insurance companies which charge exhorbitant premiums, there would be plenty of money for elder care freeing up All People from elder care! Yes, I want my family free of that when my time comes, i love them that much. So I encourage the young to move away but write a letter, send a card or a small b-day gift.😊
@@Cocoisagordonsetter What? That is exactly what she is trying to get away from!! She is not chasing an education just for the purpose of being 'valuable' and meeting a higher quality man. Geez!! Her life is not about that at all. Her life should be lived as she likes. Not to marry. Not to increase her value in society. Not to have kids. She wants to be free to make her own choices! And your comment is completely opposite of what she is trying to say. She doesn't want that.
A good reason to have children is too keep your family lineage going. Also to keep the human race alive. If everyone stops having children we will eventually become extinct. If you don’t like your traditional Indian values or lifestyle then maybe you can marry a foreigner. Maybe you can move to a different country. You can marry an American or whoever and move away. Build the life you want somewhere else. Have children. Children can change your life and views about life. Unconditional love for your children. They are a blessing ❤️
The problem is patriarchy and new patriarchial norms.
Men being useless in the home is not new. Nuclear families/girls leaving to live with inlaws is.
It's a hard choice for every woman in every country for different variants if the points you made.
Historically men would rape to get the children they wanted but before that, women would live together and help each other.
If you can leave the country or go to more progressive cities that's your best bet. But your fears of the future based on your real life experiences are reasonable. You'll have to chose which road to take. Both will be hard but at 20 something you have lots of time. Geriatric pregnancy doesn't start till 42 and if you still have periods you are still technically fertile.
This was worth every minute of watching. The truth is a beautiful but harsh reality. Thank you.
I appreciate your feedback and am glad that you enjoyed watching.... Thank you!
@@birthgap Saw your video from Chris channel. Great video.
A thought experiment question I have is, would people seeing more of the life cycle aka more people seeing births, deaths and in between not have a positive affect on people to have more children. So not having that would have an inverse effect ?
Also after a war, birth rates increase but as society ages (older people) they are less likely to go to war. Would war create a push for more natalist policy as people want to have their nations survive ?
The loss of a sense of community in many societies has certainly distanced people from "the life cycle". Not seeing/feeling that could well be a factor, as you suggest... More generally I believe the solution to stabilizing birthrates lies at the community level
@@birthgap indeed. This seems eerily similar to the Calhoun mouse experiment,behavioural sink. Same problem, we have mostly everything but still are not having children.
It can't be fixed. Countries need to have reduction in welfare state. We need to abolish retirement and lowering taxes + more immigration.
_Create a system of economic demand that requires extreme working hours just to make ends meet for a majority of the population_
_Refuse to provide assistance towards younger, childbearing age, couples_
_Continue to economically leech off of a dwindling youthful class, which in turn creates even less for the youthful class_
_Bitch and moan that people aren't having kids_
My words of wisdom to the Oligarchy:
Congratulations, you played yourself.
People used to have way more kids in way worse circumstances. My grandma was born in a little cabin without electricity or running water.. She had 8 siblings. She lived to be 91. We're bitching about non-existent things today. The fact is we're lazy, entitled and prefer living comfortably over furthering society. And so we will die out, and it's not gonna be pretty in the end.
@@novakattila
I want my future kids to have an actual chance, not just work for the rest of their life in some dreg job living in a derelict manner until they're gray in the hair.
@@VultureXV thats literally what life is mate. People are just mentally too weak today to tolerate hardship.
That's what life is for the working class, the ruling class have always shagged kids on islands and preached to us that we need to have a stiff upper lip and be stoic all while never having to worry about anything in their lives, including laws
@@novakattila then the best choice is to not have kids, bringing people into this without their consent is the biggest asshole move possible
A few things happened in the 70s all over the world.
The views of the future turned from ”glass is half full” to ”glass is half empty”
The environmental movement.
The shift from classical economic theory to the neo classical.
The modern feminist movement and liberation of women.
The spread of more agressive consumerism.
Speculative economical behaviors of companies.
A disconnect between companies profits and worker salaries(one increased exponential the other stood still)
Individualism of one kind or another came to dominate.
All this combined makes for a quite big change in cultures.
You forgot the pill and tampons.
Yes, improvements in mass production were supposed to enable 4 day work weeks while providing us with all we need. Instead, more of the profitability of automation went to the people at the top, meaning the rest of us work even harder. We just work harder with more efficient equipment so the bigshots can buy bigger yachts.
If regular people were seeing the upside in advanced automation, we might have enough time and money to do a great job of raising kids, if that is what we all desired.
@@skylinefever to be frank, its not just the bigshots who benefit from men's overwork but "liberated women". They account for 70+% of consumption in the USA and produce nothing. Including babies.
Easy to see that fear keeps women from having children; fear of being trapped, overwhelmed, losing their identity. I am here to tell you that your fears will come true..but only in small doses and it is far outweighed by the joy and deep love and satisfaction you have because of your children.
@@ronmaest Tampons don't affect fertility. It make more sense to say women entering the workforce affected these numbers more so. So now they keep delaying child birth. However they have the freedom to decide, and mostly they never find the *perfect* guy so they eventually settle and when they do ofcourse its too late.
Its a lovely thing how mothernature always wins.
I know that amongst my peer group there is a lot of us in our late 20s/early 30s without children and all of say we just can’t afford to bring children into this world. Currently it’s become impossible to rent or own a home without two adults working full time.
I also think there is something to be attributed to governments creating an unstable and seemingly unsafe society, nobody thinking logically wants to bring life into an unstable society.
It's a propaganda by crony capitalist like Elon Musk, they just want more slaves workers and consumers for their company
It’s impossible to do without two incomes and every woman knows that the likelihood of divorce is 50% so it will be on her. Yes, some men are asked to pay child maintenance in divorce and most who are required to do, but many simply walk, or refuse to work, and it becomes a huge problem. So that 50% divorce rate makes children quite a gamble.
This is the other side of the equation. Those having children are driven by emotion which increases societal instability.
presumably you can find cheap rent if you move out of the city. it seems you are instead pursuing career over children.
@@sw6118 lol women are the ones who initiate divorce
Corporations have stolen our future. I raised two sons and it cost me a fortune, no time off for my children, sky high daycare, school administration problems, health care, cloths, food, school extras and all the little costs. Companies don't like when you have to take time off and attend to a child problem. The culture, especially the American culture, is unconducive to child rearing. So why go through all of this? The population dropping is no surprise to me. It's hard enough to make a living, without children. With children it's almost impossible. This is a result of economic policies of governments, not human nature. It's a reaction to the environment.
This 100%. I don’t understand the others in the comment section saying it’s primarily bc of the decline of religion and selfishness of the younger generation.
I don’t know why? Gee I have no idea why? It can’t be because every country suffering from this suffers from a culture of hyper capitalism and extreme competition where no one wants to settle down before 35-40? And that no where in the culture is child rearing praised or looked up to in any way?
Maybe we all know exactly just why but we never ever questioned how we live and how vastly different it is from the lives our ancestors for tens and tens of thousands of years lived like.
The ever rising cost of everything does not help either. We actually never can afford what we need to raise children. Starting with appropriate housing.
Children are not meant to be raised in soulless blocks of flats. Or cities build for cars. Where playing on the street unsupervised is a guaranteed way to get hit by an SUV.
@@MoDa87 it’s truly sad watching it happen in real time. I hope there’s a turning around the corner.
Yes! I agree 100%.
Nah, phones make women have access to the world of men and they think they are deserving of the top 1% of men. Men outside the top 1% are invisible to women. Women wanted and are in the workforce and have depressed wages due to there being 2x as many workers. Men don't want to put in effort to try and date women who now want to be like men and "sport F" basically sleeping around until they are 40. It's a giant societal mess.
A company in Seattle raised the minimum salary paid to $45,000 and adjusted everyone else's salary accordingly. This wasn't done as part of an experiment but the results were analyzed by the University of Washington. In the two years following this salary increase, the company experienced a significant baby boom among its employees. It's the money, stupid.
Yet we can't make all 8 billion people have the same kind of lifestyle and amount of wealth right? perhaps this population drop is really necessary, it just has not come up to Southeast Asia or Africa until now. Stabilize it to around 4 billion and I bet everyone lives abundantly.
Can you post a source?
@@gutsblackswordsman4707exactly. Supply and demand. When the Forrest becomes overgrown, a fire clears out the excess to make room for new growth. These cycles are observable everywhere in nature. Yet, we humans, in all of our arrogance, think we’re above the cycle. Silly humans.
Cap.
@@gutsblackswordsman4707 thanos is that you?
Just shared this with my 20-year-old daughter, who wants children. You echo the message I give her. Having children has an expiry date, but a career does not.
Bottom line.
Whats so great about having a kid you can barely afford?
@@whyaminotoriginal the love.
@toanewday The love, the personal growth and the knowledge and realization that one is a transient cell in a larger organism that doesn't cease to exist with one's own personal death.
What? Feminism says she can play the field while getting her professional career going and then marry a doormat at the age of 35 and start a family. Or, freeze her dried out eggs and start a family at 45. Of course, the success rate is about 3%. Only 50% of women marry. 50% of those divorce. And, 80% of those divorces are filed by the wife. So, only about 1 in 4 women get married and stay married. This is not a good environment in which to raise children.
The real reason is that the cost of living is too high and people have more awareness of what bad parenting can look like
That is not what the evidence showes.
@@stephenhoughton632 We don't need evidence to see this. Just look around and ask old relatives.
My grandpa worked alone as a teacher and was able to raise 3 children and build a house.
My father and my mother both had to work fulltime, but still they build a house, payed back the loan in 8 years and had my sister and myself.
I am a registered nurse now and I live in a 400 sqft (37 sqm) flat that I bought with a loan and I can't go on vacation to any other countries besides than poor states and I can't sustain a family alone.
I am certain that I will have at least 1 child, regardless of my financial situation, because I really want children, but in no world I can support a huge family.
One of the reasons yes, other factors like a fertility issues as well. I’m lucky enough to have a child and plan on two more if I can, but two of my friends have been trying and can’t get pregnant. They are told it’s “unknown infertility” meaning there’s nothing the dr can see that’s causing it. Here in the USA I’m of the mind that our very processed and fast food diet has some thing to do with it, along with birth control pills being taken for 20 years straight.
@@BloodSweatandFears that as well. But there is an assumption that feminism and childfree people are to blame. The reality is that most people want children, but they're growing up slower because they can't establish roots and the cost of living is too high. Then you also have health problems causing infertility
@@biancap1549 I think both of those is true. And to be clear I mean modern feminism not real feminism. Out of many people I know more than half have chosen not to have kids or cannot find a partner for various reasons. One being social media and online dating being a bad dynamic that in my opinion is ruining dating and trust. 2 of my female friends want children but have fertility they attribute to being on hormonal birth control for 15 years straight. It’s a lot to unpack for sure lol
We will have more children when housing is affordable, when two incomes are not obligatory to simply live and enjoy life, when education is affordable, when childcare is socially funded, when everyone has access to affordable healthcare, when people start treating the planet with respect, when wages are not laughable, when governments care more about people than profits, and when we learn we need community not consumerism. Until then I refuse to bring a child into this world so they can be another struggling cog in the machine.
Oh my thoughts exactly ❤
Well it could be argued that you are depriving that child of its choice of what to do in life. It’s not a certainty that it will be a cog or anything in particular that we can predict
41 and childless in UK, never met a man who was willing to commit fully and I didn’t want kids without marriage so wasted many years in ltrs and time just vanished 🤷🏻♀️ guess I thought I would meet someone who shared my values and it would happen naturally but it didn’t. I’ve never been very maternal anyway so I’m kind of on the fence about it.
I’m likely gonna look after my folks and have my dogs. All the single men I know including my brother aren’t interested in commitment to anything except their own enjoyment and don’t want children.
I think a huge part of that is the risk of losing it all if the woman leaves and weaponises the kids. Until the courts address the disparity there and incentivise couples to breed I doubt that will change. I’m surprised that keeps being left out of the mating crisis conversation, I’d wager it’s one of the biggest factors.
Also, I don’t like the lack of autonomy in our lives here, everything is regulated/taxed/monitored and technology has overstepped it’s utility. We’re so separate from nature now that even I feel lost here sometimes and that’s not a cycle I have an interest in perpetuating.
Just my thoughts, my friends are considering a second child but are on minimum wage and that’s the biggest reason they probably won’t.
I applaud you. Not many women even know this. The very few that do usually speak of it in very hushed tones and certainly not in public. As it turns out, misandric laws have been the most effective form of birth control the world has ever seen.
I'm grateful you never tried to baby trap a man. That to me is far worse than anything. It makes someone else suffer because the system sucks.
@@whenpigsfly3271 I don’t doubt it for a second. My cousin went through this when I was in my formative years and almost killed himself. He has had no contact with his daughters for years now as they were turned against him. I also had the door slammed in my face by the mum at the time and that was that. I had babysat often and loved those girls and I think it probably had a lasting effect on me which is why I’m indifferent about having my own.
@@skylinefever you have to want a baby for that 😂.
It’s such an awful thing to do either way, I’ve heard of men sabotaging their partners birth control too! Why would you!?
@Beelzeblub - I think most women don't realize how feminism has stolen their hope of having a family. It has taken 70+ years for men to fully appreciate the risks associated with having a family. When you compare the risk against the cost and benefits, having a family, from a man's point of view, is just not viable. It is strangely amusing to see women in LTRs diagnose the marriage problem as "men are insecure" or "men are intimidated by my education and income." Once men realize how dangerous family courts are, the best relationship a woman can hope for is a sterile one called "friends with benefits." Yet the younger women trudge on carrying the feminist's banner with all its attendant vitriolic rhetoric and having no idea of the harm they're doing. We should bear in mind that the legal and social systems we labor in are designed by rich oligarchs, and everything going on in the world is exactly as they want it to be. The oligarchs will soon see a world containing 500 million people.
I can't believe that the people who produced this video portray the fertility situation as an accident or a social misstep. The reality is that it has been engineered to be this way, and feminism and family laws are part of that social engineering. The history of the world is nothing but an ongoing story about the oligarchs mistreatment of the peasants and what the peasants are going to do about it.
That was a good point that people who have children don't have less children, but more people remain childless. Thank you for figuring that out :)
Well that's not true. In Europe most of people come from families with 2 o 3 kids, and they are now having just one, and too late. This means 50% or more reduction in just one generation. What the documentary states, might be true for large families 4/5 kids, but not for the (statistically) 'normal' ones.
@Joan Vallve we have chosen to have just one and that's looking like a mistake. I really hope things can change for the better. Looks like the next few years are going to be the start of a whole new world or complete control like the hunger games. I can't see how the rich will settle for anything other than complete control or total defeat.
@@joanvallve7647 From about 32:00 to 42:00, the documentary makes the point that in the entire industrialized world family structure has not changed for women who have had children, but many more are now childless. The birthrate for mothers has remained the same, but the birthrate for women has plummeted. So @lonegramlarsen6766 has it right according to the documentary. Do you have a source to back your claim?
@@Screw_This Percentage of 'only child' in Western countries in the late 60s: between 5 and 9%. Current percentage in Western countries: between 25 and 30%. This documentary only gives a percentage for families in Japan having 3 or more children, which remains similar. In my opinion, the 'child alone' data is much more relevant and completely contradicts the documentary thesis, which states that only the number of childless women has boosted. No, that is not true, so the thesis might also not be.
This is a huge epidemic. I'm 38 and my fiancé is 35. We have been trying to have children for over a year and a half. My heart sinks as I continue to age and still haven't had a big fat positive. Thank you for talking about this. As much as I want children, I feel so alone that I have yet to have children. 7 months ago, we sold everything and left the USA to have a more relaxing and healthy life in hopes that our fertility would improve. Still unable to have a child is absolutely heart breaking. I always dreamed of having 5 children, at this point I'd be blessed to have one. I waited till I met the man I wanted to spend the rest of my life with. I was on birth control for 17yrs. I have had all the vaccines, and I haven't always taken the best care of my body. I blame myself for not being able to even get pregnant. The emotions a woman carries who wants children but cannot seem to produce children is beyond devastating. This goes so much deeper than just the population decline. Thank you again for reporting on this topic. Unplanned childlessness is a reality for too many woman. I wish the government would help with fertility help, because it's so expensive.
Go carnivore. Then try. Youll get pregnant within months. You're welcome.
You should have had children 15 years ago. Society is messed up.
Hey I read your story and felt like responding by chance. I am a herbalist and health practitioner. Have you tried and natural methods?
Before you have a child consider the world they'll be living in. Climate change is going to destroy everything. And your child won't want to have children.
Adoption?? Both my late husband and my father were adopted.
The reason why people in the developed world are having fewer children is quite simple. I'm surprised that the people interviewed in this documentary couldn't answer this question. In rural areas, children are seen as free labor, whereas in urban areas, having children becomes a luxury. Therefore, having many children is advantageous on a farm, but it's expensive in a city. Additionally, women are more involved in the workforce compared to previous generations, which leads them to postpone having children until it's often too late.
Another thing that should be mentioned is the role of the airline companies. Allowing them to travel on planes along with the other passengers, rather than in dedicated family spaces, has done a tremendous amount of damage to the reputation of children.
A great documentary. I was aware that this is a problem, but I was not aware how fast it is going to go downhill in the near future. The crisis of loneliness will also get much bigger. Many people
will feel their second half of life is pretty desolate. If I look at my grandmother who died at age 82, the last 20 years of her life was a time when she was surrounded by her 5 grown up children and 13 grandchildren. She even got to see one great grandchild being born. Very few people will have a rich life like this in the future.
This is very true. My child sees her grandparents quite often, but because we had her so late I feel like I cheated her out of a lot of time with them.
Something else people don't seem to consider is that while they might not want to be parents, have they thought about not being grandparents, because that means something a lot different. People will not let you be involved with their children without a good reason, so when the loneliness really sets in with this cohort, they're going to be very distraught. We see this with more and more people lavishing attention on their pets. It's perverse in many respects.
There are people who don't have kids and don't want them for many reasons including abuse. Don't assume.e everyone is the same
Companion bots are the only real.solution to both the young male loneliness crisis and the elderly childless loneliness crisis. Artifical wombs are the only real solution to the birthrate crisis. Technology is the only solution to most things.
@@RCCarDude and nevermind their own parents who won’t enjoy the dimension of grandchildren. Life is not fair, it is what it is.
@@zebrafinch12 of course. That and/or personal mental issues/disorders that one may deem too horrible to pass on.
I'm a 67 year old man from England. I have noticed in my life an increase in misanthropy. It has always been there but over the last 40 years the growth is very apparent.
Now with the change in family values and expectations on both parents failing, misanthropy steps in and the result is people avoiding other people and do not want long term relationships, or children. The role of both men and women has changed dramatically over the last 40 years, and both sides feel the other is responsible. Evidence for this is all over social media. That’s where our problems lie.
Rockefeller agenda
Lol, try being a woman. Misogyny is everwhere.
I am a 22 year old women.
99,9% of men tteat me like an Objekt.
But somehow expect I treat them friendly.
The math doesn't math
5B.
I actively avoid men.
I have a very active social life, women are way more interested in community than men.
I don't see any semblance of real effort by the governments to encourage birthrate, on the contrary, globalization and delocalization made sure that wages kept stagnating for 3 decades, all the while rich Boomers managed to reap the benefits of the post ww2 boom. GenX was the beginning of the end: Reaganomics and neoliberalism made the 1% richer while offloading welfare on private companies that cared only for profits, thus moving production to China and South America. Having children is costly, I'm in the growing majority of people that decided not to have them and was able to change jobs without much ripercussions. It would have been a nightmare if I had a child to bring up. Then again, my parents weren't as preoccupied and barely made sure my sister and me weren't starving or needing child services intervention. Not emulating them anytime soon. Companies will have to pay employers more and sacrifice some profits, I'm all for it.
I became a parent in 2005 at the age of 25. When my son attended kindergarten in 2010 I was known as the "young Mom". I was 30. All the other parents were in their 40s. I thought it was an odd label to apply to me because 25 didn't seem that young to have a child but now that I am the parent of a legal adult, my son just turned 18, and I am age 43 the label of "young empty-nester" doesn't seem so odd as most of the parents I know - my age range late 30's to mid 40s - have families comprised of young children. I've watched in real time the growth of the phenomenon of later age parenting. Fascinating documentary. I will be interesting to see how this all turns out.
We won't be here to see it..
It's becoming more and more common to see couples having their first child in their early 40s. Time Will tell if this is good or bad, but it's something that it's certaintly happening.
I have also experienced this. My peers made me feel crazy for becoming a parent at 23. Some of them are having children now at 39/40. My sister had my nephew at 41.
And even then we all only have one or two children. Most of my friends don't have children yet.
@@Jose-se9puit can only be negative
The problem is that the cost of living with children for fertile adult women is too high to afford for most.
In America, healthcare is too expensive, childcare is too expensive, housing/rent costs are more than half of the monthly take home pay. There is poorly funded/no funded maternity pay or maternity leave (6 weeks is nothing). Pair that with a failing school system, parents having to work multiple jobs and several hours just to make ends meet and you have your reason right there. Instead of providing free healthcare and childcare to children, from birth to eighteen, regardless of socioeconomic status, the higher ups decided that greedy corporations were more important and they should have all the tax breaks, bail-outs, etc. But us normal people? We’re taking on way too much of the financial fallout that the top 1% has created. It’s only fitting that we’re heading for failure… we’ve allowed it to happen.
America has had much worse problems to face in the past, and people still had kids. The difference this time is that many have started believing Evolution and Climate Alarmism which tells them that life is worthless and humans are the problem.
Then why do poor people make the most children
@@guadalupefreyre5900 Many reasons…
I'm a woman who wanted to have children but the demands of our modern capitalistic society has made that impossible to do it and be a good parent. Kids need not just food, shelter and clothing. They need love, time, and attention, and glasses and braces and collage funds (because who can count on their countries education system to properly prepare them for the modern workforce)......
5uper11ero9irl isn't that incredible sad though? Or maybe you didn't want a family enough to pack your bags and leave the country? I would think that if something was central to your life you'd be willing to do absolutely anything to get it....
@@chad1682 that cannot be expected of most, obviously.
I think the problem is not capitalism. In the 40s, 50s and 60s they had capitalism but they did not have this problem because society was built around single income families. I am grateful as a women for my education and my opportunities, but now it's not just that women *can* have careers but they are *expected* to have careers and it's very very hard to be a mother and a successful career person. Its like the servant with two masters parable. And now the cost of living and consumer pricing is ajusted around single persons who can spend all their wages on themselves and things aren't commonly priced for families.
@@friedawells6860 the problem is definitely capitalism. Back then you had social democracy pushing back capitalism to an acceptable level for more people and long-term health. Soon after capitalism became way to overarching other aspects of society. People are ready for much more social democracy and less capitalism, they often are just not aware of it due to the constant mainstream narratives.
@@abcxyz123 Perhaps, but you can see that socialist countries like Denmark and Germany that have extensive regulations, maternity leaves, free daycare, free education and social welfare still have this problem and their birth gap is even larger than the US. I think we have created a culture where women are ashamed to take time off work to raise their kids. We have decided that having a career is the ultimate form of fulfillment and that the woman is lazy or missing out on her potential is she stays home while the husband works. And it may have something to do with a sort of culture of capitalism that molds people through advertising to be the ultimate worker and consumer, but I think the economic system itself is not to blame.
Lets be honest here, too. The world as it is has changed drastically from 20, 30, and 40 years ago. Prices are off the charts of inflation. Who can afford 2 or 3 children? Housing is off the charts as the cost of homes have soared into the stratosphere over the last 25 years, completely locking out most of the middle class. Jobs are not keeping up with inflation. It is common to see two parents working to make ends meet and some work multiple jobs to survive.
The birth gap is not something that appeared yesterday. Economic and social conditions have so negatively impacted the lives of the middle class that it is a no brainer.
Inflation is something only right wingers talk about. You're not a right winger are you?
As an inaugural Millennial I feel so VALIDATED by this global development. All of us powerless “little” people have felt like we have no power to fight back against the ruling class. But we are realizing how powerful we are when we refuse to reproduce and give the ruling and political class new serfs.
Yes, I love making a similar point. Why have children so the system can enslave them?
Tengo dos hijos y os doy la razón.
Gen X and SAME. It fills me with satisfaction.
The game is over when the pawns refuse to play.😛🍿
@@crystalfullerton3908 Gen X also. The first generation people took pills to not have...
Thank you for covering this topic, I spent years speaking with people I know. Sadly people are so worried about the future, careers, the planet, on and on the concerns pile up. The one piece of advice my dad told me and I never forgot was, "There never is a right time to have kids." He explained there is only now and have kids now and life becomes about living for them and not about living for just yourself. We are meant to have companions on this journey we call life.
Briliant ending to your post. I had a bit of disagreement on twitter today with a women who was preaching about global warming. I advised that population collapse is the biggest threat right now. They googled the global pop right now and kept on that train.
There is no birthrate decline according to many on twitter bevause the global popualtion is in decline.
These people would not even watch this documentary.
I gave up for a bit and just left them the link to this video pleading they try it just for half an hour at least before dismissing it.
Very well expressed. Problem is most ladies don't feel the same. Life should come when it comes, with sex a natural hobby.😅
Guess you encourage teenage pregnancy as well
@@mrmaly9861 Did someone someone piss in your cornflakes this morning?
I am definitely one of those people you talk about. I'm mostly concerned about the environment. In many cities in my country we've reached day zero. I'm an engineer, no jobs will offer much more than minimum wage and I refuse to struggle unnecessarily. I am a woman who loves her career and hobbies. Love spending my time with myself. I am my best company. And I'm not saying you are wrong or people like you are wrong. Just saying people like me exist, happily, and we are not wrong either. Being able to understand what brings us both happiness and respect each other is the true key. Best wishes.
This needs more views and deserves it. Great production. Its too late for me but you may save millions of others.
How can we have children when both partners have to worker over 12 hours or more just to scrape out an existence? How to find time to raise well adjusted children when parents are dead tired after a hard day's work? Those who choose to be childless are actually the responsible ones with the potential to be wonderful parents, should the economic circumstances allow. How ironic. The answer is that simple.
a very good point as well, it's all part of the problem.
Learn about finance and how to make money. If you have time for UA-cam but are poor, you are lazy. If you have time for social media but are poor, you are lazy. If you have time for TV but are poor, you must admit that you are lazy. No sugar coating about that!
people didnt use to live alone... one house one family... everyone together helping... no we are individualized... one house for heach person
Section-8 is the mommy of today and the future.
@@dusanveselka3240
An you are robbing people so you have money for everything....
Came straight here from your Chris W interview. Thank you for your vital work
Thank you Marty
The secret is there is never a good time to have children, you’ll never feel ready, you’ll never have enough money, you’ll never have enough support, but you just need to jump in with both feet. If I can have a child during medical school, raise them during medical residency and fellowships, and another one during my first year in practice while still taking time off of my career as a physician and still have a good career after it’s not impossible. During this time my husband and I had no support and very little money and were living in a country was not our birth country a good six hour flight away from any family members. But my husband and I managed to be able to make it work. It is possible.
All centered around you and your husband. You are so righteous. But are your children happy, and will they be happy throughout their lives facing bullying and other types of violence, body shaming, age shaming, inferiority complex, inevitable physical and maybe mental succumbing of their beloved parents, etc.?
Good luck when divorce comes.
I doubt you did much raising.
@@MrSandman_0981i dont think it matters much as a medical doctor. They always marry other md's or the like they all make bank.
That's wild, but hardly a model for everyone. Apparently you have drive, good for you, but personally one kid is more than enough to handle for me. That'll remain my contribution.
I've been in Japan for 20 years, in Kagoshima prefecture (in the south).
Here, the ratio of eligible women-to-men is 2:1, and ALL the women around me say they are desperate to find a "good husband" and get married.
But the economy, as portrayed on the TV - which the Japanese are addicted to - scares both the men and women away from commitment and having children.
To be blunt, I blame mainstream media for wanting to sell a story.
And this story will sink what "Japan" is.
Women also want to have millionaires because they are too lazy to work.
@@Cocoisagordonsetter It's more complicated than just "number of men". It's the number of "eligible men".
Or, "men who a woman would want to marry!" 🤣
@@Cocoisagordonsetter southern Japan is very traditional. So many women hope for a husband who will pay for everything, and then NOT have affairs all over the place.
Personally, I think the women are too picky.
I can’t afford to have kids. If I can barely keep my own income strong there’s no way I’d bring children in. The men I’ve tried to have relationships with are not reliable. Men with money choose playmates not families. Women I know who have stayed with men have to put up with unfair treatment in order to be in a family unit.
And the cycle continues.
The patriarchy has gotten out of whack. Males can adjust themselves by doing as much self work as women do instead of surface level relief.
Look up drizzle drizzle. Men aren't the problem.
@@SensSwordyes they are.
@@deezed6478 You went after the bad boys and got burned. Don't touch the hot stove next time after being warned not to do it.
It's scary having children in this day and age. For one thing, cost of living is outrageous. You have a generation of young adults in many parts of the world that face no possibility of ever becoming homeowners, never mind face an eventual retirement. Job availability is apparently plentiful, but job security is at an all time low, and future employment predictions are blurry as per what fields will be available and which will be replaced by technology.
We are also the result of 4 decades of emphasizing self reliance, competence and accomplishments, lifestyle fulfilments personal goal achievement, traveling, etc. That's a lot of expectations on the shoulders of women who not that long had no access to financial stability if their marriage turned bad or went belly up. I absolutely understand the reluctance of locking themselves in a 20 year commitment of child rearing where a big chunk of this time is most likely to see her become less employable and havr to go back to square 1.
There simply is no incentive to have kids other than "it's rewarding". Yeah, sure it is. I'll pass on that, i can't afford to live myself.
This "day and age" is a lot easier to navigate than the 60s or 70s.
Your cost of living is vastly cheaper than cost of living in 1800 yet they had more children. People faced lifetime of servitude to their lords with no prospects of having freedom !!! and still had more children. Your ancestors didn't have food security, often dying of starvation, and yet had more children. They would love to dream of job security. All those reasons are bullshit, excuses, not the reason.
@@jaazz90Hahahah you’re so delusional!
@@HazzyWazzey Hahahah really? You're the delusional one. You don't want kids, simple as. And instead of being honest to yourself you come up with excuses.
When talking to my 21 year old daughter about this, she said she feels like she has to make a choice between children or buying a house and is very scared and frustrated with trying to plan a future
Don’t buy a house. Buy land. Put up a yurt or cabin.
Makes no sense to take on a huge debt of a house.
I remember In the US during the early 1970s the economy started changing for the middle class & divorces increased. There where more & more mothers who HAD to start working (+ raised the kids & do all the domestic work at home). That isn't desirable for a woman. Single men are are so into gaming & porn plus they often don’t have very good jobs & can't afford to marry or have kids; they are terrified of the topic. We were also always told as kids "what a terrible world we were creating & how it was declining therefore it was not a good place to bring up children anymore". Our working mothers often didn't seem to be enjoying bringing us kids up, we children assumed they regreted having us because it was too difficult. It seem they were stuck working long hours in their daytime jobs & then stuck with a second miserable job at night doing all the house work, cooking for everyone at home & doing all the child rearing alone even when the father was at home. Many of us were afraid to have children, especially if we were alone. If a boyfriend gets you pregnant he will run for the hills & leave you alone & your parents will not forgive you. It is a horrible position for a woman to be in.
Feminism... plain and simple. That and birth control pills
The problem with the argument being made here is that it's not really depopulation that's the problem per se, it's the fact that our societies tend to be built upon systems that assume endless and continued population growth. There's no inherent reason why we can't (eventually) build new systems better equipped to function under the new realities of demographic trends.
Good point. 👍
This.
Yes but we'd have to tax wealthy people for that to happen, which is why it won't.
Actually it's the opposite. These systems are designed, not on population growth, but age limits and an early age of death. Think about how much longer the human life span is now compared to just 50 years ago. While there have been birth booms and declines over the decades, the population has been relatively controlled via young deaths. Most people couldn't think about living past 70 just 50 years ago but now we have a thriving population of 90 year olds and even a population of 100 year olds. This was not precedent in most of our structures because we would expect more people to die sooner than they are. This is what programs like social security and state pension were banking on. People who would die less than 10 years on the system. This would be sustainable regardless of the birthgap because as there are less young people being born more old people would die and we would reach equilibrium. But with our expanding lifespans of people taking a $12,000 yearly pension for over 20-30 years per the law, that's more pressure on young people to pay into the same funds old people are using for far longer than intended. That creates an inverted pyramid. If more old people were dying younger than it wouldn't be an inverted pyramid, it would just become a block and reach equilibrium. But if we have an increase in life expectancy we have to match it with birthrates if we keep the same age frameworks of 65 being retirement age. Maybe we could change the law in the required age for retirement and force the older generation to work for longer as they live for longer. But it's hard to make the argument that a 75 year old grandpa should be expected to still be grinding his hours shoulder to shoulder to a 55 year old guy. But unless we start reversing the birthgap and start going above replacement, that's the only other system we can work on.
Yup, fewer people isn't really a problem once you get past the bump in more elderly than young. That could be dealt with through fair taxation.
I would suggest that the cost of housing plays a huge role in population decline. Both people in a partnership have to work to afford a house, either to own or rent. Subsequently children are unaffordable. As a child (many years ago), nearly everyones mother looked after the home and had more children. Owning a home was easily affordable on one income, now there is no chance of that. So until property values drop substantially which they ultimately will as more and more empty houses occur, both parents will be forced to work and thus less children.
Also I would suggest lifestyle plays a significant part in people not wanting children, but that's another story.
I was slowly coming to realize in my late teens that I wouldn't want kids because of how irrirated I get from basic interactions with them, even kids my own age at the time.
But with all the other shit of everything being unaffordable and unsustainable it only validated my decision and I even want to take extreme precautions such as getting sterilized before I even get hit on by a man.
@@britneybij3997 Sad. Don't preclude your options; you may have a change of heart ! Life has funny turns !
Amen! You said everything! I cry a lot exactly because of these reasons that will lead me to never be able to become a mother…. Because i am responsabile and i will never give birth to my child in survival conditions..I dont need a pregnancy test to love my child! I i love him already! And i cant do this to him/her ! Its a very unlucky era for us that are 30 now….
It's negative exponential. The NWO will end up with their 500 million without having to do anything about population directly.
What do you think of all of the people who have children anyway? Why do you think that expensive housing is necessary?
When I raised my children, I did not encourage them having children. Although I did encourage my daughter to have a career, it was not at the expense of having children, it was for her to be able to take care of herself no matter what life threw at her. My reasoning for not bringing children into this world is bc children are not valued in our society. Families are not valued. Education of children is about indoctrination, not education. Our society is not a healthy environment for children to grow up in, so why subject little children to that kind of world? Parents warehouse their children instead of raising them, and we can see how well that is working out for mentally healthy children. Careers come and go, but the way you raise a child can affect generations to come.
Yeah you should have had children and raise them to be good honest and hard working people.
You definitely can not pay attention to the indoctrination camps called the public school system. My kids grew up in that system and have turned out to be good honest hardworking people.
It’s all how you look at it. Learn what you need from it and leave the rest.
In interviewing the women who fall into the 'unplanned childlessness' category, I can't help but think back to the young couple at the beginning of the movie "Idiocracy". "We can't have children right now... not with the market the way it is..."
Mike Judge is an astute observer of human nature.
I work in social services in a part of the country still "green". The other couple isn't too far off from reality either.
Do you think your child deserves parents who are at least financially equipped to raise children?
@@gorochu4287 As someone who grew up in a very low middle class family I ask the same question.
Great documentary. As a trained economist, we looked into a lot of these metrics in grad school. However, I don't think anyone really understood the gravity of what we were looking at since we were all in our mid-20s.
Now, heading into my 30s, the game has changed. Young women, deeply afraid of never being mothers. Young women deeply angered by the horrid narratives perpetuated by progressive radicalism. It has failed them. It will fail us.
There is nothing more dangerous than progress for the sake of progress. Sometimes it's best to let people live by their nature.
The first comment I (mostly) agree with. Where I would be angry is at your professor for not stressing the seriousness of this. This way his pupils would be better prepared for real life. The work life balance with family playing a major role. This is the true path to happiness.
Civilization is not natural. That's the entire point of it.
Please google "regretting motherhood". Women are neither stupid nor blind. They know the burden that is laid on them when having a child.
@@greentarsius9051 You are the only one here who has associated stupidity with being a woman. No one else.
@@greentarsius9051 This is just due to the rise in narcissm and egoism in women. They are stuck in an adolescent stage where any forms of responsibility are deemed an affront to their unique human worth.
Who would bring a child into what will very likely be a Totaltarian or Feudal style system?
Some people will just argue that since people had children in feudal times then, people should have children now. To me, that's like arguing that because innocent people have always ended up in jail, innocent people should keep getting sent to jail.
@@skylinefever You both make excellent points.
Someone needs to carry the light of liberty into the future.
@@ElijahDecker I think that light will be extinguished. We've lived in a unique period of history in western nations. The freedoms we've enjoyed and the concept of a "middle class" are anomalies in human history. All signs are that we are reverting back to the two tiered authoritarian construct that is the norm. Those two tiers are abject poverty and misery for the vast majority of people and an all powerful ruling class.
There are so many reasons, but one big reason people should learn about, is the mouse utopia experiment and how we are living through the same thing. Modern comforts and urbanization, leading to solipsism. But other reasons such as radical Feminism, the pill, bad marriage laws and family courts for men, all sorts of things to have both men and women just cease interaction and turn inwards. Also some environmental worries, younger generations being falsely led to believe there is a right time to have a child (say after you buy a house even in an inflated urban real estate market, requiring extensive income) and even delusional indoctrination of young women to the point they don't think they have a biological clock. Man the reasons are endless.
Universe 25 is what you're referring to. When Maslow's hierarchy of needs are met and exceeded a metaphenomenon occurs: the biological impetus to survive and procreate is dialed down immensely. We think of ourselves as individuals but never as a super organism. Remember, our genes outlive even our species. That we have such a insular view of ourselves is a tragedy. It's no coincidence ppl have no vision or hope for the future. An autoimmune reaction has entered our collective epigenetics.
Yes, the laws are so bad, poor men can’t be themselves any more and women are able to tell them to go f*** themselves- literally 😂😂😂 - with the attitudes like theirs. You dream of the past - when men had all the power money and women had to be submissive to survive and put up with all the crap thrown at them by their fathers husbands and society. We have quite good memory. And that’s why we don’t want this shit anymore and prefer cats. 😂
With high costs of living, why r people surprised that others don’t want children ?
My mental health being unstable at times made my decision to not have children simple. I would not impose an unstable environment on children.
It might have straightened you out; caring for another, dependent human !
@@linmal2242 settle petal 🌻
@@linmal2242 nope
Awesome work on presenting the data visually Stephen - particularly loved the maps with hollowed-out regions showing birth-gap. Also amazing insight regarding the childless explanation (as opposed to shrinking families). I got quite emotional watching some of those women who missed their chance. Please please please release Parts 2 & 3 on UA-cam!
Glad you liked the data visualizations - they took a bit of time to envision but hopefully they help tell the story.... PS The emotional side continues into Chapter 2
@@birthgap I've been following this story for years (bit obsessed to be honest) and I've never seen the '50yr olds : newborns' ratio, but it is such an awesome and clear way of showing what we're facing 👏
@@birthgap Those birth gap graphics with black holes were a genious idea. There's something profoundly alarming in seeing your country decay and disappear. If you plan to have more public apperances, this is a graphic I'd show everywhere. (btw. I came from Chris Williamson's podcast.)
Great documentary. Thanks for good work. Great interview with Chris W.
They are missing the point! The money n stress is the issue! We can not house ,work ,mentality navigate and do it alone! Our traumatized older population have literally ruined the thought of enjoying that journey. Women are so not falling for this scam anymore. It absolutely falls on women.
As a genX I agree with you. We have worked ourselves to death trying to keep up with everything living through 4 recessions and really bad job markets.I would fully support young women getting government subsidies for raising their children. This way women don't have to risk being homeless if the man leaves. We need more children then pay families to have them. Womens nature to conceive children would be valuable to all - as it should be. Instead its a burden and that is wrong.
How I don't like the birthgap visualization charts:
Like many maps, they visually weight lower population density areas higher. One could look at some large, sparsely populated state/province with a large birthgap, and the size of that black area would look quite large, when it might matter much less than a smaller black area that represents some large city. For example at 19:23, I assume that northernmost Japanese island is sparsely populated than say Tokyo, but that small black area in Tokyo's prefecture likely spells a much larger impact on population decrease and the overall senescence profile of the nation.
What I'd prefer but might be harder to display, would be a 3D map with population density as height so that the volume taken up is directly proportional to total population, with an outlined dark area marking the birthgap, so that we see it in real population, and not as a ratio.
Thank you Mr. Shaw for putting it all together. I’ve been researching this for two years and it’s really nice to see an end to what I’ve been searching for and the cause of what we are all dealing with all over the world. Thank you.
Wonder if Dr Shanna Swan might be of help to you. As there is more to this than meets they eye!
@@blondebrandy thank you!
What would be "an end" to this problem? What solution have you considered as best suited to remedy the situation?
@@djk0125 no one likes the solution. It’s the end of social media. How did people pick the mates when they’re in 1970s? 80s? It wasn’t social media. Now we have dating sites since 2000. Too many choices. The first rule of sales as you don’t offer more than four choices of color. Or type. Because then you’re a victim or patron cannot make a decision. If you’re on social media you have 1000 people to date maybe lol in your hometown. You have 5 or 6 great prospects maybe two. Think about it.
In a lot of career driven women, it is not just about them wanting a career vs children.
Its about them legitimately needing a career and to be good at that career to survive themselves.
When the needs of that struggle are taken care of, there is not much left energetically, emotionally or financially to put into the demands of child rearing.
Even when a partner is in their life-most places require at least 2 incomes to live.
Everywhere we grow up seeing a lack, lack of resources. Lack of unpolluted food and water sources, lack of clean air and soil. Needs becoming more expensive.
This world needs to become alot more hospitable to want to raise a kid in FIRST, not just offer us meaningless tax rebates after we decide to have them.
No one that plans to have kids expects to survive solely on a handout, they want to be financially stable before they make that irreversible decision.
No woman wants to become a mother while she herself is struggling.
The childless numbers increasing tell me that more of us are struggling or just surviving.
If the governments really wanted to change this, they would stop the corrupt greed.
Yes
Might I add, it’s not solely on woman to populate the world and we shouldn’t be expected to raise children alone. Men play apart in this also by making and leaving women single mothers.
@@PrincessJas1024 agreed! If there is any doubt in the relationship or sign that the man won't stay, I for one do not want to have a child.
My Mom raised me alone since they got a divorce shortly after I was born and I don't want to raise my child in that kind of struggle-emotionally and financially
No, we aren't teaching the importance of marriage with our children, we drank the kool-aid we were given - focus on a career, men aren't important, relationships aren't important, grandparents aren't important, only acquiring is important - 4 televisions, new vehicles, huge huge houses, don't learn to garden - do takeout because that is a sign of wealth. Blah blah blah
@@marywiggins7411
Exactly. In general the higher their income, the less children people choose to have.
As someone who motherhood has come into my life unexpectedly, I totally get why people are not having kids. It’s exhausting and very self-sacrificing. My third baby is due in 2 months and my other children are both under the age of 4, so my experience is a bit more intense than if I waited longer between having them. But it makes sense that women who have children, are still having more than 1 and 2. Once you have one baby, the prospect of having more is inevitable. I never thought I would have THREE kids, but becoming a mother has transformed me in a way that nothing else has done. It is a huge blessing.
Whether it's blessing or not is subjective, several women have experienced many postparrtum complications it wrecks your body too much physical & mental fatigue plus the responsibility of raising the baby in a good human is no joke. It's not a blessing at least for me.
@@happythanos6632yes definitely agree with pregnancy wrecking the body. My hair has never been the same since giving birth to my child 12 years ago, and my periods are terribly heavy and painful since child birth.
@@happythanos6632That totally depends. My wife has 4 kids and is totally fine. I know women having more than 10 children, and being in great shape. One of the mothers in my parish left the hospital 24h after having her 12th child, because she was bored in the hospital.
Corpse Bearer!
And here we are, close to the full year of unsuccessful trying and I'm so sick of the disappointment every month. No changes, aunt Flo is absolutely reliable, my blood tests are good, whoever once told me the trying part is the fun part deserves a punch in the face. I want to have a family already.
People cannot afford to have children anymore… not because we cannot give up something… its BECAUSE YOU JUST CANT MAKE IT! Children need dignity and UNFORTUNATELY MONEY is what you need!
And why should we expect to give up anything? Let the richest and most elite give up something and just keep breeding among each other. They can hire their own kids to work for each other.
In the US, we need to get back to 125 million, what it was when I was growing up here. Currently we're choking with almost 400 million people, in just one short lifetime! Don't use old people as an excuse. We'll be gone soon. We need to get our numbers down or start getting used to SOYLENT GREEN and eating BUGS!!
dlnt worry, the growing lbbqt community will solve that
You are right.
I knew at 15 I didn't want to have children. Never wavered, never had "baby fever." Have saved well for retirement. Best decision ever.
As the lady said at the beginning, the common factor for falling birth rates among different countries is industrialisation. The more affluent a nation becomes, the more people want to pursue careers, travel and study ahead of starting families. Also living costs rise and space becomes more condensed. Dating and mating becomes more complex. People focus on individual pursuits. But on the other side, there's also the rise of single parents by choice in developed nations - middle aged women, gay men who are pursuing surrogacy. Although this may not be enough to reverse population decline.
the real rise is in the childless, not the rise of 1 child famlies.
To me, the most obvious reason is women not getting their needs met in relationships. In my mother's generation, many women went to college but most would still be married with at least 1 kid by the age of 30. The difference was men didn't waste women's time and young men understood that you didn't lead a woman on for years without marrying her. Cohabitation without marriage was almost unheard of.
Nowadays there are countless cases of men ending a 5,6,10,15 year relationship with a woman without ever fully meeting her needs or offering marriage to the woman.
They were right back in the day that current trends could not continue, but we rebounded now to the opposite where nobody is having kids. Life went from the most affordable it ever was, to the exact opposite in one lifetime
everyone around me is having only 1 child if at all, and my wife too insists she doesn't want to have more than 1. 1 and done. My question to everyone : Do you have brother / sister? Are they important in your life, were they key for certain traits strengths in your personality? Are they an important support structure for you in bad times? Yes? Well, your single child is not going to have any siblings growing up.
Do you have cousins? Are they important in your life?
If your child also has only 1 child of their own, then your grandchild won't have any cousins.
In 2 to 3 generations we're going to have a population that doesn't have any familial bonds other than their mother and father and grandparents. The state and the institutions will come in to fill that void in their perverted, exploitative ways. Do you have any idea what this implies?
That's one problem (one of many) that China has. No brothers, no sisters. No aunts, no uncles. No cousins.
Just acquaintances, nihilism and despair.
I'd say having no kids is preferable to one. raising one kid like that's gonna be harder on all of you than if that person has a sibling, especially when you, and they, get older. The kids help bounce off of and improve each other too.
Yes, millennial coworkers definitely seem to only want one child at most….. sounds really sad and lonely to me. I have four kids, and among the chaos, it’s such a joy to see them all interacting. I tell them that they are my greatest gift to each other.
Yeah I’m the millennial one and done camp here. The thing is it ruins your body, messes your health, is a financial burden, and maintaining a career or even a job, can be difficult, depending on the kind of child you get (disabilities etc). Many people that have one child start out thinking they will have two or three. Then realise the reality of modern day motherhood is very different to what society says it is like. That’s why there’s one and done, A LOT. It’s sad for the only child, their childhood, but as an adult, tbh, my experience of siblings and cousins, adds no real value, if anything I have to fight over resources later, eg an inheritance.
How arrogant to assume that everyone’s family is healthy to be around their children!
My fiancé and I have an amazing relationship. We could very easily handle having a kid in terms of relationship and family support. The problem is that we cannot afford it. She's school educated and I'm a skilled laborer. We make close to the same amount but it's still not enough. One of us would need to be a stay at home parent and it's not affordable. Having two working parents and raising a kid, let alone two or three... No way! It's too much.
thinking too much bro...
Where do you live that you can't afford raising one child on a decent wage?
@Tappajaav A decent wage. That's the thing right... If only I had a decent wage.
@@TankPlaysGames Ah, that's unlucky. Skilled laborer and school educated, both of those sounded like something that'd provide livable wage
@Tappajaav 15 years of experience. All the jobs in my area pay $22 an hour. That doesn't pay all the bills. And I manage my money well too. I have to. I don't have a choice. Considering the actual minimum wage in my area should be around $35 (I'm not kidding. It's bad here.) I am struggling to get by. My s/o works in Healthcare. The two of us together can't afford a run down house. The cheapest thing around is $400k and that's a 2 hour commute to both our jobs.
The opening sequence of Mike Judge's film "Idiocracy" was an eye opener 20 years ago..
Many People can barely afford to financially support themselves today - let alone anyone else. housing affordability and availability is becoming a world wide issue. No one wants to adopt, people need to make something new that looks like them. And having kids just for the purpose of taking care of the aging population is a bad reason to have kids.
exactly. 100%
One comment here - why sustain the population at current levels, given that automation and machines will increasingly replace human labour?
Exactly
there is ai and robot. earth need no more human
@Birthgap Low birthrates are only terrifying for corrupt governments. Less people, smaller welfare state and lower house prices. Also, doesn't Ireland have a large unemployment problem? Is that a product of low birth rates? Of course not.
I've been aware of this for a long time and your documentary is a statistically verified confirmation of what's going on. But, how bad it really is an that it can/will be even worse is what really hit me here.
You're are doing amazing work! Keep it up!
I have read many articles and watched videos about declining birth rates, and this video blew my mind. I didnt expect that the low birth rates were caused due to exceeding number of people going for childlessness, instead of for smaller family sizes. It shows that to solve any issue, we need to both look at data as well as examine potential factors from.a theoretical.perspective.
From those that I know, nearly every family (who is in a stable relationship) and has kids, have quite a few. Meanwhile most others have zero. There is also an extremely strong overlap between religiosity and birth rates. People need to wake up to the fact that immigration won’t solve anything and the future of most of the world is “Talibanization”. Not specifically Islam, but intense religiosity taking over society in general.
Practically, the cost of living is too high and men are thrashed in divorce so men do not want to risk paying for kids and mom when she leaves, and then being destroyed in “family court”.
My friend lives in Japan, she tells me it's really expensive to have children and find childcare