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I learned something new today. I never realized the corkscrew was different on old vs new models, and just confirmed it by looking over my collection. Sure enough, my older models have that groove. Thanks for that bit of information!
Thanks so much for this. I got a Climber when I was a kid and it got confiscated by TSA a few years ago. I finally got around to replacing it and couldn't figure out why I couldn't remember having a parcel hook. It turns out I didn't! Also, the back feels different when I run my thumb over it; now I know it's because of that center filler section. You cleared it all up for me!
Thanks for sharing about this very cool side-by-side comparison of old and new Victorinox Climbers, it was really neat to see how they've changed over the years. Congrats on 5k subs, btw. You're wicked awesome buddy! 👍Take care and Cheers!
Great to see the improvements between generations of the same knife. And potential cost-saving with the scissors. Makes you wonder what changes we will likely see when they release a newer version! Great video TK 🫡
Eu não sei o que é mais incrível: se a similitude entre um canivete de 30 anos atrás e um atual (eu nunca vi uma marca ser tão perfeccionista e conservadora como esta) ou o fato do autor do vídeo notar tantas diferenças. Victorinox é genial.
Excellent comparison and really cool between the new and old Victorinox climbers (Climber 14), it was really cool to see how they changed over the years, I have one from the 1976-86 years like the one shown in the video. Congratulations and best wishes.
Nice to see that they’ve tried to actually improve over time as opposed to just figuring out how to charge the customer more and increase the bottom line. Good stuff as always, TK! 👊🏻
Thank you for the comparison. It was very informative. A quick note: I have the older style except my awl is the newer style with the eye hole. Probably a later version of the older model (maybe '85/'86)
A very thorough and excellent review. Thanks for sharing! And thank you for advancing my Victorinox education. So many red Swiss knives. So little time! Cheers, RW
had a couple of Climbers at arms reach - one of them seems to have the older style blade and there's no pin hole, but everything else is the newer style. I wonder if that would mean it may produced somewhere around late 1986 - early 1987? I have no idea of how old it is, having aquired it used a long time ago.
@@ThriftyKaniffy I have 2 Climbers. both purchased after 1990. One doesn't have the hole for the pin. I've lost the tweezers and the tooth pick on that one. The I guess newer one has a little hook at the end of the tooth pick. At one point I did have one with a screw in the scissors. I could have gotten it right around the change though. I was around 11 then, old stock must've been carried for some time as well. I remember it increasingly coming loose. I lost that one a long time ago. It's actually quite amazing how long I've held on to these 2. I did get the newer one when I thought I lost the old one...
I love comparing Victorinox knives with old and new products. This older one, that you have here in this video, was actually called the “Traveler”, then Victorinox changed it to the “Climber”. Interesting that not only do they change the tools gradually, but also the names of their knives. 😮👍 Edit: so if you are curious what an even older Victorinox with scissors looked like I have this video which compares the older scales and tools on a huntsman. This one here is from the 70’s and there are a lot of differences surprisingly compared to the one in this video here. ua-cam.com/video/UMzxeKixUBI/v-deo.htmlsi=J5qv2LDjfLe_xfgT
It's interesting to see a company actually improving a product over time and not just cost cutting. Can remember the corkscrews changeing from five twists down to four. Was a young buck about town then and the five twists got the cork out of a wine bottle easier. A swift, masterful cork extraction for the ladies at parties was important then, i was less than happy at this twist reduction! 😅
How do you find out what years it’s from I’ve got my dads old Victorinox I got when he passed years ago. It’s funny because my father use to sharpen his Victorinox with a bench belt sander and the main blade is literally has half the blade from years of sharpening I was thinking about having it changed but it wouldn’t be my dads. Thank You for another awesome very helpful informative and just real fun to watch lol lol you talk about the tang stamps lol I always post comments while I’m watching but always learn more as I watch the video lol 😊😊😊😊😊😊thank you😊
No worries Watchcity. The dating gets rather complex because in order to narrow it down you have to make multiple considerations. Check out www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php which is a masterful resource for Swiss Army Knife information.
Hey John nice pieces buddy…. I’ve been missing the alox models they come out with every year with the colors but there close to 80 bucks…. But I have a feeling there going to be saut after……. And they are beautiful…… I’ll catch you soon bud 😊
For smaller traditionals I like the smaller USA made Old Timers found on used the market like the 108OT. For something new a Case medium jack like this ua-cam.com/video/HyY5w1Evs8g/v-deo.html
Thank you for a detailed comparison of my favorite model! One detail left out on the scissors is that in the newer ones, the spring rides in a "keyway" with a stamped cam on a thinner spring, while the earlier ones ride against the handle, without the keyway with a wider, flat spring. Mind you, the older style spring works the same in the newer style scissors. Again, thank you for the video!
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I learned something new today. I never realized the corkscrew was different on old vs new models, and just confirmed it by looking over my collection. Sure enough, my older models have that groove. Thanks for that bit of information!
Thanks NYC, glad to help.
Thanks so much for this. I got a Climber when I was a kid and it got confiscated by TSA a few years ago. I finally got around to replacing it and couldn't figure out why I couldn't remember having a parcel hook. It turns out I didn't! Also, the back feels different when I run my thumb over it; now I know it's because of that center filler section. You cleared it all up for me!
Glad it helped! Thanks for having a look.
Thanks for sharing about this very cool side-by-side comparison of old and new Victorinox Climbers, it was really neat to see how they've changed over the years. Congrats on 5k subs, btw. You're wicked awesome buddy! 👍Take care and Cheers!
Glad you enjoyed it, Toad. There;s quite a number of differences between these two.
Great job showing the differences. I never knew how much they changed over the years. Thanks for sharing, Live Long Prosper and Collect Your Own Way!
It surprised me how many small changes they've made. Thanks, Stan.
This was a really neat comparison! Nice one, buddy!
Glad you enjoyed it, David. Thanks for watching.
Great to see the improvements between generations of the same knife. And potential cost-saving with the scissors.
Makes you wonder what changes we will likely see when they release a newer version!
Great video TK 🫡
They just keep evolving. Victorinox is a great company. Thanks, Stu.
Fantastic comparison John! Amazing how many differences there are when the knives are next to each other!
Thanks, Matt. While minor, they do continue to innovate over time. The parcel hook was a good addition.
Eu não sei o que é mais incrível: se a similitude entre um canivete de 30 anos atrás e um atual (eu nunca vi uma marca ser tão perfeccionista e conservadora como esta) ou o fato do autor do vídeo notar tantas diferenças.
Victorinox é genial.
Eu aprecio muito você assistir. Obrigado pelas palavras gentis.
Excellent comparison and really cool between the new and old Victorinox climbers (Climber 14), it was really cool to see how they changed over the years, I have one from the 1976-86 years like the one shown in the video. Congratulations and best wishes.
Glad you enjoyed it, APE. The older models are always fun to compare with. Thanks, and have a great day.
Great, informative video! Summary at the end made it perfect. Greetings from Germany
Thanks very much Andreas. A big howdy to you from Texas.
Nice to see that they’ve tried to actually improve over time as opposed to just figuring out how to charge the customer more and increase the bottom line.
Good stuff as always, TK!
👊🏻
Yep, seems like there is some pride given to the product. They're a great company.
Just an observation- the newer model screwdriver/cap lifter has a 90 degree stop while this feature is absent on the older model
Yes, good catch. Thanks, Guy. I appreciate your comment.
Great review .👍 It was interesting to see the evolution of a classic pattern .
Thanks .✌
My pleasure, Michael. Something a bit different.
Thank you for the comparison. It was very informative. A quick note: I have the older style except my awl is the newer style with the eye hole. Probably a later version of the older model (maybe '85/'86)
Yep, Keith sounds like it falls between these two. Thanks for watching.
Great comparison video John! I'd be curious to see which one held up better over time.
I suspect they'll both be around long after I am. Not that I'm in any hurry.
A very thorough and excellent review. Thanks for sharing! And thank you for advancing my Victorinox education. So many red Swiss knives. So little time! Cheers, RW
Glad you enjoyed it, RWA. Cheers.
I like them both but my favorite is the Tinker. Looking forward to the 19th’s show.
I enjoy the Tinker too. Thanks, Frank.
Great looking knives! Nice comparison! They both have a nice tool set!!
Thanks, Mike. This is a top 5 SAK for me and with so many to choose from that's pretty high on the list. Makes a great EDC.👍
Tremendous engineers. Impossibly impressive!
I hope you enjoyed the comparison, Rick.
If you carefully sharpen the inside of the package hook ( using a thin round file or diamond rod ) it makes a quite serviceable seat belt cutter .
Nice idea, Michael. Thanks.
Congrats on 5000 John.
Thanks very much James. I hope you'll join me for the LIVE celebration on Sunday Nov. 19th 10:30am CT.
Thank You!
nice, enjoyed seeing the changes.
Thank you, OMKR. I enjoy Swiss Army knives and hope this was informative.
I use New Climber from 6+ years ❤
One of the better Victorinox models, though there are a number great ones. Thanks, Piotr.
had a couple of Climbers at arms reach - one of them seems to have the older style blade and there's no pin hole, but everything else is the newer style. I wonder if that would mean it may produced somewhere around late 1986 - early 1987?
I have no idea of how old it is, having aquired it used a long time ago.
Im sure theres many small variations. Would take some investigating to narrow it down. Thanks, Juhan.
@@ThriftyKaniffy I have 2 Climbers. both purchased after 1990. One doesn't have the hole for the pin. I've lost the tweezers and the tooth pick on that one. The I guess newer one has a little hook at the end of the tooth pick.
At one point I did have one with a screw in the scissors. I could have gotten it right around the change though. I was around 11 then, old stock must've been carried for some time as well. I remember it increasingly coming loose. I lost that one a long time ago. It's actually quite amazing how long I've held on to these 2. I did get the newer one when I thought I lost the old one...
I love comparing Victorinox knives with old and new products. This older one, that you have here in this video, was actually called the “Traveler”, then Victorinox changed it to the “Climber”. Interesting that not only do they change the tools gradually, but also the names of their knives. 😮👍
Edit: so if you are curious what an even older Victorinox with scissors looked like I have this video which compares the older scales and tools on a huntsman. This one here is from the 70’s and there are a lot of differences surprisingly compared to the one in this video here.
ua-cam.com/video/UMzxeKixUBI/v-deo.htmlsi=J5qv2LDjfLe_xfgT
Thanks, Mark I'll check it out. I'd read the Traveler was the Climber's predecessor without the keyring. Take care.
It's interesting to see a company actually improving a product over time and not just cost cutting. Can remember the corkscrews changeing from five twists down to four. Was a young buck about town then and the five twists got the cork out of a wine bottle easier. A swift, masterful cork extraction for the ladies at parties was important then, i was less than happy at this twist reduction! 😅
Sounds like you went to some much more sophisticated parties than I ever did. Mine were highlighted by a punch bowl and ladle. LOL. Thanks, JK.
I have an older model but the awl does have an eyelet, so I can only assume my model is a couple of years older than yours?
The eyelet on the awl blade came about in approximately 1985. Would need more info to date it more precisely. Thanks, Martin.
What about taking some rockwell files and comparing the blad hardness
Might do that someday. Thanks David.
How do you find out what years it’s from I’ve got my dads old Victorinox I got when he passed years ago. It’s funny because my father use to sharpen his Victorinox with a bench belt sander and the main blade is literally has half the blade from years of sharpening I was thinking about having it changed but it wouldn’t be my dads. Thank You for another awesome very helpful informative and just real fun to watch lol lol you talk about the tang stamps lol I always post comments while I’m watching but always learn more as I watch the video lol 😊😊😊😊😊😊thank you😊
No worries Watchcity. The dating gets rather complex because in order to narrow it down you have to make multiple considerations. Check out www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php which is a masterful resource for Swiss Army Knife information.
Hey John nice pieces buddy…. I’ve been missing the alox models they come out with every year with the colors but there close to 80 bucks…. But I have a feeling there going to be saut after……. And they are beautiful…… I’ll catch you soon bud 😊
Yea I've been getting more into the colors even though I told myself I wouldn't. These things are addictive. Thanks, Pete.
Just getting into the game. What would be a good first nice USA made small traditional knife to get?
Buck 301 stockman?
I would say grab a case Texas Jack knife. Small, but very usable. 👍
For smaller traditionals I like the smaller USA made Old Timers found on used the market like the 108OT. For something new a Case medium jack like this ua-cam.com/video/HyY5w1Evs8g/v-deo.html
Thank you all for the input. I'll check them out.
Thank you for a detailed comparison of my favorite model! One detail left out on the scissors is that in the newer ones, the spring rides in a "keyway" with a stamped cam on a thinner spring, while the earlier ones ride against the handle, without the keyway with a wider, flat spring. Mind you, the older style spring works the same in the newer style scissors. Again, thank you for the video!
Thanks for the added detail, Juan. Appreciate you watching. Have a great day.
I carry one almost every day !
It's a great choice among the 91mm. Thanks, lwilson
Ya thrifty my dads has a pen in his knife scales not a pin a pen it still writes too,
Yessir, the 91mm plus scales have the pen.
Swiss = improve modern instead of cheapening with price increases....
True. They've avoided that trend.
Love me a nice SAK
Thanks, Hawkbill.
Good video, but what you call "spacers" are technically backsprings. 😊
You're right! Thanks, Giovanni