I just battled the pine bore last summer. Right or wrong, I went and got some cheap insect spray from the dollar store and sprayed all my logs after I pealed the bark. It worked well, only missed a few and round two hit the holes that still were active. Great info in your video. Thanks
Oh that’s cool what are you building? We will be pouring concrete this summer and timber framing our home. In fill with cordwood will probably start the following year.
Please look up Rob Roy cordwood building books and or you tube videos, before you start getting your materials, if you appreciate this couples mistakes, then you will be very happy to have watched or read Rob Roy, teaching how to build with cordwood, very informative and well worth learning from a pioneer in cordwood building, that lasts.
Research Rob Roy, cordwood building, he has several books out and you tube videos, well worth a look see! Rob and his wife started building with cordwood in the 70's after doing a some research. After his first book and word got out , him and his wife has taught cordwood building classes for years now, and they have taken the guesswork and errors out, there are new and different materials, that their past students have experimented with also, as in paper mache and cob (cobwood). I have been following Rob and his wife's journey with cordwood building since the early 90's, they thoroughly demonstrate every step and materials to use. If anyone is thinking about building with cordwood, I highly recommend that, they do their research with Rob Roy, to prevent very time consuming errors. I feel bad for this couple, it's a lot of work even without mistakes!
I have a couple of his books as well as Richard Flatau and have learned a lot but will undoubtedly make some more mistakes on the way. It is a lot of work but we enjoy it and it beats working at a job everyday to pay off a conventional house. Our house will be paid for when we finish and we will have the satisfaction that we built it ourselves.
Good idea. I noticed on a recent camping trip that the park we were in REQUIRED that we only used "burned off" firewood or firewood gathered at the park
Could you build a pen to stand up your tall uncut timber? With a grid of boards separating each tall timber. Know what I mean? Like how they store pool cues.
Not terrible by any means. Somethings are only learned by experience. Air space is important for firewood. One thing you might try is stacking in the open on exposed IBC tote cages with only a top cover. Once it dries out in the open, then you can move it into your ready to burn pile in your shed. It's easy to move the totes with your tractor.
I do use IBC totes for my firewood but this wood will be used for our cordwood house and there is over 6 full cord so it would not have been practical. Thanks for watching
Thanks for this video. Awesome information! My wife and I are in the beginning phases of building our own cordwood house. We are still clearing and such. I have a bunch of pines that I cut down this summer. I didn't get to peel them right away. Bugs got under the bark. I got them peeled cut down and stacked. Think they're ruined or can I save em?
I went through and split out all of the bug infested areas in my wood and treated them with the borax and no longer have any evidence of them in the wood. That being said I didn’t have to do any research as to if there is a way to get rid of them by treating the wood alone. I would google some of the products to treat the wood and see if it will kill them off effectively once they are already in the wood. It seems to me the liquid would make it’s way into the holes they create by burrowing and kill the pest. I would probably soak them longer and also try to separate the non infested “good” wood from the “bad” by splitting it so you don’t see the holes ( if you know what I mean) Hope this helps Where are you building? What type of wood did you go with?
@@backinthewoods2022 Cool, I just read about the Borax treatment pretty recently. Ill do some more reading. We're in Arkansas. Last year we bought 5 acres of woods and vines. We've brought water, and electric to the property, cleared about an acre, built a green house and a shop. Living in a camper for now, we work full time as well so its not moving super quick but we've still done a lot in a year. We're going to use pine for our home might get to mix in some cedar but not much. Pine is basically all thats on our property.
Sounds like we have a lot of the same things going on. We are moving to our land in the next few months and will be living in our 15x20 cabin for probably two years until the house is complete. We have been doing our projects only on the weekends so far. It will be nice to have more time to do them soon. Good luck with yours.
Great video ...I learned some things from it...however I live in Staten Island and plan to move to PA soon and build a cabin and few sheds like this...I have been using my old school way for many years and its look great and seems to hold up to the elements well...I first debark all the way down, then I actually take my blow torch and burn the wood till black, take a wire brush and clean it somewhat till I get the finish I like....sometimes repeat.....then...I use Olive oil to treat it....I usually save my left over olive oil and treat wood with it...the finish looks great...try it on a small scale and let me know how it looks.....This is just my old school way of doing things....I'm sure other people have other ways...but mine looks good and works...let me what you think.....
we have little spiral white bugs beetle things that do the same thing .they get under the bark and eat trough the wood .But we leave the bark on ,onless we are building something .The fire takes care of them .If you pile your wood all the same way the wind should get through better
I would like to build a cordwood shop . What I have in mind is a timber frame , 36"x8" bottom sills with a 8 " cord wall and a 23" straw bale inside . Do you have any advice ? Should the footing under the bale wall be insulated from the sill , tie the bale wall to the cord wall , should I house wrap between, or a couple layers of tar paper , any advice at all
I’m sorry but I would not have good advice. Maybe in a few years when I get to see all the mistakes from my project and know what I would have done differently. Until then I’m a novice.
I saw a bumper sticker for your channel while driving. Really cool idea. Do you know the channel EdibleAcres? They have great info on growing sustainable food in a closed system
I have found powder post beetles .... in many old barn structures... need to do some research and find some good natural treatments, that we can mix in water ...and apply with a pressurized sprayer I have a friend that used to use crude oil to treat his wood... but I worry about is flammability
I live in a woods in Eau Claire County, so your channel interests me. Your project looks like a lot of work, but should be nice (and unique) when finished.
Certain word is far more susceptible than others..- to these problems... (If you could get nothing but hemlock I don’t think bugs attack that... Ill get a giant wire wheel , that could take that final layer off ... Also make my wood in much longer length s and then once it’s totally dry use a good chopsaw ..to cut it to the perfect length , ...this way ..it’s easier to handle and his tax better than Little squares Hey so what he should do is take that eight or 10 year old stuff and use it by using a chopsaw and cutting off all that so long as he stops and now you’ve got a good clean piece of wood to work with... Could also make a kiln out of exterior doors , which are insulated..and put box fans & in a heat source ... an old house furnace works well...and you would be amazed at how quick everything dries ! you must move the air, use a dehumidifier to get rid of the moisture So if we could get some tree trimmers and tree cutters that would save us tops and allow us to pick them up in a trailer you can get a lot of small wood from Cedar and Redwood or Hemlock ...whatever species will be bug resistant !! and that is what I would try to work with the tree trimmers ..and pay them some extra to get it
I have been thinking of building a small smoke house using cord wood. I have no pine on my property but may use hemlock if I ever do it as I heat my house with hardwood.and don’t want to use my hardwood for building. Of course I’m not building a home that needs to last a lifetime so if it lasts 10 years I’ll be good. Just as an FYI, I built my log home from a kit 30 years ago, it’s made from milled white pine logs and even though the logs were treated for boring insects at the mill , carpenter ants have been a constant problem over the years here in NH. I’ve used various products over the years ( some no longer available due to being known carcinogens ) and seem to have them under control but I’d love to see what the inside of my logs look like just out of curiosity.
Sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner I wanted to look at a book I have and see how good Hemlock is for cordwood construction. It looks like it is a decent choice because it doesn’t swell and shrink to bad. There are charts you can look at for volumetric shrinkage with all the different woods, lower the number the better. The borax seems to have fixed the problem for now. I don’t see anymore evidence of the pine beetles, we will see what happens in the future.👍
@@bucktalesoutdoors7566 you as well. I saw a shooter this weekend but it was about 110 yards out of bow range👎 I would love to see another of your videos on tracking deer during gun season. One day I hope to get in a big track and try it out for myself. That kill and one with a recurve are on the bucket list.
Tracking in the snow although it’s getting tougher the older I get especially in this hilly country is still my absolute favorite and most rewarding way to take a Buck. I’m hoping we’ll have favorable snow conditions later in the season and I’ll get the chance again this year.
@@backinthewoods2022 it's mold you're probably not going to be rid of it as it's in the sap wood,and it spreads we had an entire wood shed go on us,we sprayed a heavy concentration of bleach on it all it did was slow it,very disheartening as we know there's a lot of work involved there
short cuts tend to turn into more work. that is some good info you shared, anyone building with cordwood needs to know this.
Thanks for sharing your learning experiences. And being honest. Certainly helpful.
I just battled the pine bore last summer. Right or wrong, I went and got some cheap insect spray from the dollar store and sprayed all my logs after I pealed the bark. It worked well, only missed a few and round two hit the holes that still were active. Great info in your video. Thanks
Thank you 👍
I'm in northern wisc & saw this video as a recommend. Glad I watched it. My cordwood projects start summer 2021.
Oh that’s cool what are you building? We will be pouring concrete this summer and timber framing our home. In fill with cordwood will probably start the following year.
@@backinthewoods2022 chicken house/grain storage & tool shed
Please look up Rob Roy cordwood building books and or you tube videos, before you start getting your materials, if you appreciate this couples mistakes, then you will be very happy to have watched or read Rob Roy, teaching how to build with cordwood, very informative and well worth learning from a pioneer in cordwood building, that lasts.
In upper Wis need a hand?
Very helpful tips ...easy to learn from your experience. Much appreciated!
Thanks 👍
Research Rob Roy, cordwood building, he has several books out and you tube videos, well worth a look see! Rob and his wife started building with cordwood in the 70's after doing a some research. After his first book and word got out , him and his wife has taught cordwood building classes for years now, and they have taken the guesswork and errors out, there are new and different materials, that their past students have experimented with also, as in paper mache and cob (cobwood). I have been following Rob and his wife's journey with cordwood building since the early 90's, they thoroughly demonstrate every step and materials to use. If anyone is thinking about building with cordwood, I highly recommend that, they do their research with Rob Roy, to prevent very time consuming errors. I feel bad for this couple, it's a lot of work even without mistakes!
I have a couple of his books as well as Richard Flatau and have learned a lot but will undoubtedly make some more mistakes on the way. It is a lot of work but we enjoy it and it beats working at a job everyday to pay off a conventional house. Our house will be paid for when we finish and we will have the satisfaction that we built it ourselves.
Thanks!
Gently burning outside might be an option. They do in Japan for beehive making.
Good idea. I noticed on a recent camping trip that the park we were in REQUIRED that we only used "burned off" firewood or firewood gathered at the park
Thank you for this. We hope to build our own and this was very good tips
Good deal
Thanks for this.
A solution of borax in water will not only kill your mold, but also kill your bugs without being hazardous to you if you put them in the sun to dry.
Could you build a pen to stand up your tall uncut timber? With a grid of boards separating each tall timber. Know what I mean? Like how they store pool cues.
Life would not be so enjoyable without those learning experiences... I've been through similar situations in my life! Thanks!
At least I caught it early and it just cost me time not all the wood. Thanks for stopping by👍
Thanks for sharing I will not do this mistake but I am sure I will make others!
Not terrible by any means. Somethings are only learned by experience.
Air space is important for firewood. One thing you might try is stacking in the open on exposed IBC tote cages with only a top cover. Once it dries out in the open, then you can move it into your ready to burn pile in your shed. It's easy to move the totes with your tractor.
I do use IBC totes for my firewood but this wood will be used for our cordwood house and there is over 6 full cord so it would not have been practical. Thanks for watching
Thanks for this video. Awesome information! My wife and I are in the beginning phases of building our own cordwood house. We are still clearing and such. I have a bunch of pines that I cut down this summer. I didn't get to peel them right away. Bugs got under the bark. I got them peeled cut down and stacked. Think they're ruined or can I save em?
I went through and split out all of the bug infested areas in my wood and treated them with the borax and no longer have any evidence of them in the wood. That being said I didn’t have to do any research as to if there is a way to get rid of them by treating the wood alone. I would google some of the products to treat the wood and see if it will kill them off effectively once they are already in the wood. It seems to me the liquid would make it’s way into the holes they create by burrowing and kill the pest. I would probably soak them longer and also try to separate the non infested “good” wood from the “bad” by splitting it so you don’t see the holes ( if you know what I mean)
Hope this helps
Where are you building? What type of wood did you go with?
@@backinthewoods2022
Cool, I just read about the Borax treatment pretty recently. Ill do some more reading.
We're in Arkansas. Last year we bought 5 acres of woods and vines. We've brought water, and electric to the property, cleared about an acre, built a green house and a shop. Living in a camper for now, we work full time as well so its not moving super quick but we've still done a lot in a year.
We're going to use pine for our home might get to mix in some cedar but not much. Pine is basically all thats on our property.
Sounds like we have a lot of the same things going on. We are moving to our land in the next few months and will be living in our 15x20 cabin for probably two years until the house is complete. We have been doing our projects only on the weekends so far. It will be nice to have more time to do them soon. Good luck with yours.
Even though you have had difficulties, you have helped many of us by posting this. Thank you. Best of luck.
Great video ...I learned some things from it...however I live in Staten Island and plan to move to PA soon and build a cabin and few sheds like this...I have been using my old school way for many years and its look great and seems to hold up to the elements well...I first debark all the way down, then I actually take my blow torch and burn the wood till black, take a wire brush and clean it somewhat till I get the finish I like....sometimes repeat.....then...I use Olive oil to treat it....I usually save my left over olive oil and treat wood with it...the finish looks great...try it on a small scale and let me know how it looks.....This is just my old school way of doing things....I'm sure other people have other ways...but mine looks good and works...let me what you think.....
we have little spiral white bugs beetle things that do the same thing .they get under the bark and eat trough the wood .But we leave the bark on ,onless we are building something .The fire takes care of them .If you pile your wood all the same way the wind should get through better
They sound like the same thing we have
I said beetle in the video but they are really a grub like thing with a bid head and pinchers.
I would like to build a cordwood shop . What I have in mind is a timber frame , 36"x8" bottom sills with a 8 " cord wall and a 23" straw bale inside . Do you have any advice ? Should the footing under the bale wall be insulated from the sill , tie the bale wall to the cord wall , should I house wrap between, or a couple layers of tar paper , any advice at all
I’m sorry but I would not have good advice. Maybe in a few years when I get to see all the mistakes from my project and know what I would have done differently. Until then I’m a novice.
Impressive work
Thanks appreciate it👍
I saw a bumper sticker for your channel while driving. Really cool idea. Do you know the channel EdibleAcres? They have great info on growing sustainable food in a closed system
Thanks I will have to check that out
Looks like you ate the spider at the beginning of the video.
Try putting 2x2 or w.e. you have
Useful video :)
Are you using basswood?
No it’s all white pine
In between a layer for wood.
Does that beetle attack oak and elm ?
I have not seen it in oak before personally and I do t have any experience with elm.
I don't understand. I have ants and other critters in my wood. I burn it for heat.
Oh wait. What's a cord wood house? I'm looking.
There are still, 200+ year old barns in Canada standing, if built right ,shouldn't have critters eating a persons house.
I think I saw you in your car you had a sticker on your car saying “UA-cam back in the woods” we were in Eau Claire by oak wood mall 😂
That was one of my buddies
Dang. I am sorry that this happened to you two. Invaded by some stupid beetle. That has to be hard to handle .
It sucked at the time but we definitely fixed the problem now.
I have found powder post beetles ....
in many old barn structures... need to do some research and find some good natural treatments, that we can mix in water ...and apply with a pressurized sprayer
I have a friend that used to use crude oil to treat his wood...
but I worry about is flammability
'Cambium" layer
Interesting. Where in WI are you?
Just south of Hayward
I live in a woods in Eau Claire County, so your channel interests me. Your project looks like a lot of work, but should be nice (and unique) when finished.
@@tomherfel2916 I live just south of Eau Claire now and we are moving to our land this spring hopefully.
@@backinthewoods2022 I'm in Town of Drammen. We may be close.
I was wondering if 8" long is warm enough for your climate? I always see 16" long.
cambium layer, also, if your going to eat a spider on camera please show it to us
Oops! Sorry! That's what you're doing already! Lol!
Certain word is far more susceptible than others..- to these problems...
(If you could get nothing but hemlock I don’t think bugs attack that...
Ill get a giant wire wheel , that could take that final layer off ...
Also make my wood in much longer length s and then once it’s totally dry use a good chopsaw ..to cut it to the perfect length ,
...this way ..it’s easier to handle and his tax better than Little squares
Hey so what he should do is take that eight or 10 year old stuff and use it by using a chopsaw and cutting off all that so long as he stops and now you’ve got a good clean piece of wood to work with...
Could also make a kiln out of exterior doors , which are insulated..and put box fans & in a heat source ... an old house furnace works well...and you would be amazed at how quick everything dries !
you must move the air,
use a dehumidifier to get rid of the moisture
So if we could get some tree trimmers and tree cutters
that would save us tops
and allow us to pick them up in a trailer
you can get a lot of small wood from Cedar and Redwood or Hemlock ...whatever species will be bug resistant !!
and that is what I would try to work with the tree trimmers ..and pay them some extra to get it
I have been thinking of building a small smoke house using cord wood. I have no pine on my property but may use hemlock if I ever do it as I heat my house with hardwood.and don’t want to use my hardwood for building. Of course I’m not building a home that needs to last a lifetime so if it lasts 10 years I’ll be good.
Just as an FYI, I built my log home from a kit 30 years ago, it’s made from milled white pine logs and even though the logs were treated for boring insects at the mill , carpenter ants have been a constant problem over the years here in NH. I’ve used various products over the years ( some no longer available due to being known carcinogens ) and seem to have them under control but I’d love to see what the inside of my logs look like just out of curiosity.
Sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner I wanted to look at a book I have and see how good Hemlock is for cordwood construction. It looks like it is a decent choice because it doesn’t swell and shrink to bad. There are charts you can look at for volumetric shrinkage with all the different woods, lower the number the better. The borax seems to have fixed the problem for now. I don’t see anymore evidence of the pine beetles, we will see what happens in the future.👍
Thanks for the info on the Hemlock Kirk, glad to hear the Borax is working out. Good luck if you get out hunting.
@@bucktalesoutdoors7566 you as well. I saw a shooter this weekend but it was about 110 yards out of bow range👎 I would love to see another of your videos on tracking deer during gun season. One day I hope to get in a big track and try it out for myself. That kill and one with a recurve are on the bucket list.
Tracking in the snow although it’s getting tougher the older I get especially in this hilly country is still my absolute favorite and most rewarding way to take a Buck. I’m hoping we’ll have favorable snow conditions later in the season and I’ll get the chance again this year.
That wood is moldy i wouldn't be using that to build with, I don't even like bringing it inside to burn
We cut all the bad off
@@backinthewoods2022 it's mold you're probably not going to be rid of it as it's in the sap wood,and it spreads we had an entire wood shed go on us,we sprayed a heavy concentration of bleach on it all it did was slow it,very disheartening as we know there's a lot of work involved there
Why not use the japanese burning methode? shu shugi ban
I have seen that but don’t have any experience with it
I went this route instead will have to do some more research for future projects
Bleach and borax. Your ends look small 12 to 24. If you look at a lot of the old house, they had alot of bark on.
So can't you soak it in something that will kill bugs and preserve wood like motor oil or borax
Don't worry about quality, you can't use it anyway. It's to short
I’m using it for my house build.
Did he just eat the spider on his tripod? - haha
Caught that eh
Good protein
8 years ago....what are you waiting for?
We were waiting for the right property