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Thanks that was an informative video. You could make a Faraday box out of a conductive metal. the lid and the bottom would have to overlap and make an electrical connection.
In Florida were going to the Swamp Buggy races and we stopped at a Wells Fargo and used the atm machine. In a few days we get a call from the bank and our debt card was compromised. Then we thought back to where it could have happened. Then we remembered there was a guy in a van and he had a card reader on the machine. We had that happen so many times while living in Florida. Everything is fine here in Missouri, so far. Line that box with lead.
Part of the reason for the video was to make people aware of the scammers. As for the faraday box I’m going to line it with HVAC tinfoil duct tape and try it.
After the video ended I put the fob in its Faraday pouch then placed the pouch in the faraday box and I could still open the bronco lol. So my conclusion wad that if your going to take people advice and buy a Faraday box for protection you better check to see if they actually work.
Paul" Part of the "Faraday" effect is that the shield (conductive shell) of the box or baf, is should be connected to a good Earth Ground. That way, any Electro Magnetic Field radiation, will be conducted to ground and "killed." That works with EMF going in or comming out. Your Aluminium foil works, because Al is more magnetically restrictive - you might say "Dense" _ Than the coper foil on the box or the mesh of the bag. In the case of the products you bought, the foil or mesh becomes a sort of antenna for the fob signal, so it still gets out, only in a much weakened state. we could talk about this stuff for hours, if you want to, but I think you've found the solution to your problem. I really enjoy your videos about how things work, or get done. I've learned a lot over the years. Thanks!
That’s great info Jim. I’ve had those Faraday dooflickies over a year now and only today did I even question if they actually worked so did the test and of course they don’t work lol. I even put the fob in its little case and then I put in the box which should be double protection and I could still open the door. Utter garbage. Thanks for watching and commenting. Hope all is going well on your end.
unintended consequences. making the vehicle more convenient to unlock and drive, has also made it easier to steal. I always thought the key fob was an idea to fix a problem than never existed. then again i never had an opportunity to use one. so maybe i am missing out on all this CONVENIENCE ahahaha 🤪🤪
Hi Paul and Kathy great video! Thank you for the great information. I own a 24 Tundra and Toyota allows you to turn off your fob by holding the lock button and then press the unlock button two times. Now your remote is off and can't broadcast the signal. I wonder if Ford or Ram as a similar feature.
That’s a great system. I’m going to do more research on this and see if there’s something that I’m not aware of. Appreciate you watching and commenting.
"Thank you" Paul ..... Amazon got me for $37 4 months ago .... I just now "tested" mine and it too DIDN'T BLOCK the Fob signal .... Money wasted !!! So, I carry a strip of foil in my pocket, and a spare in my Jeep . Much gratitude sir !!! (Rick from Massachusetts)
Rick if you have the pouches. Look inside. If yours have two compartments put your key in the silver section of the pouch and close the pouch. It should work then. My latest ones work like that. Ride safe bud.
I'm just going to put my fob under my hat. Thanks for sharing this information with your users. I will keep my thoughts on the problem to myself. There is Canadian UA-camr (GP Outdoors) who had his truck stolen because of this tech. It's no joke. They saw his truck, followed him home, and used a device to extend the range of his fob and in the morning he discovered his truck was missing. They believe it was put into a container and shipped out of Canada to somewhere far away. I will stop commenting further. Enjoy the Journey - Cheers
Paul, What if you lined the box with Foil? And also the pouches would that work. My autos are older so I really don't have this problem. But I am with ya on this. You work all your life for what you have you pay big money for stuff you have. Here where I live we have valuable stuff too my Wife is priceless to me and I will protect her. My tools are valuable as is my Hatchet collection. Somebody comes to my house to take my stuff maybe in for a repair at the local ER 45s and 40 cals do leave fairly big messes. Moral of this don't monkey with someone else's monkey. Stay safe folks.
Ya Foil will work but I’m going to develop something more permanent. As for defending our stuff. I like your stand on the theft issue. They might get it if they come here but they’re not leaving in the shape they arrived in and most likely not even the same vehicle.
What I learned from my old RCMP friends, yes there are still some trustable old guts is to put a hidden battery disconect which you can set when you park in unsavoury places. In Ontario and many US places this works well as the thieves work fast but any hold up in time means they skidaddle and find an easier target. The hidden disconect should be out side the vehicle anywhere unsuspious. These disconnects disconect the ignition module like an error code and she won't start. Now if it is a Chysler don't worry it won't start anyway.
Yes I’ve done similar things with some of our vehicles but with these new Broncos they are online all the time. So many computers in them now. I got in one time last year and it told me not to use it for 15 minutes because it was in the middle of a live update. I can tell where it’s located by my phone. Start it from anywhere. All other kinds of data available to me but can’t stop anyone from steeling it lol. The world is gone completely mad.
Not surprised that box doesn’t work, definitely good advice using the foil. what I am surprised about is how far that fob works from. My wife’s Dodge Journey you gotta be right there at the door for it to work, and it only will unlocked the driver door for safety so no one can jump in your passenger seat. I didn’t know that they can try to steal the signal whenever, I thought it was just when you were using it. Learn something new. Glad to see you guys back and doing well.
Yes they can steal the code and that’s why there’s Faraday pouches. Same with credit cards. They can steal them as well without taking the actual card. I’m hoping this video will bring more awareness to the issue. Thanks for watching. Hope you’re doing well.
You can easily fix that 'easy entry' design shortfall Paul - You can design a new accessory for attachment to any Bronko - A Hasp & Staple complete with a Padlock! One for each of the 5 doors per vehicle. Every Bronko owner should be crying out for a set of those. 🤔
Paul by I never understood why they got rid of the key to start the vehicle. This issue is this push button ignition and why can't you disable the key fob when you leave the vehicle. Dare will be some crowd now over to Dollar Store buying up tinfoil to wrap up dare keys.
Well you are absolutely right. Although vehicles were stolen back then they were harder to steal so our technology has actually went backwards in that department.
Well the people who steel the cars are lazy also and don’t want to half to use a key to open the door. Seems like with technology we keep taking steps backwards. Thanks for sharing.
I had a bad key for my dodge truck that kept locking the doors every couple of seconds. I didn’t have a Phillips screwdriver small enough and assumed the battery was dying. I used this exact method to seal it off while we used the spare key to get home. A new battery in the remote fixed the problem
We’re all like that these days. I’m not saying they won’t get it but they will have to outsmart me first and even then they’re going to be in pretty bad shape to enjoy it.
And if I come by wanting one of your cars don't want Billy maybe little killer for an hour if it snows over to the local church or if it's a drive I'd go with ol blue ( the best you have ever shown on the channel)
lol. Lots of options. They’d never get Ol Blue. There’s a systemic way of starting him. You miss a step and he’s not moving. It’s my own development theft deterrent system.
I have that faraday bag and it works for my Lexus. There is two spots you can put the key on the inside, I think you were putting the key outside of that internal pouch.
I leave my 2023 F150 key in a Faraday bag under my back seat in a lock box. It works as otherwise I could never lock the truck as it would think I am inside. As I have a key code to enter the truck if I ever lose my key, I can get the spare under the back seat.
Do you have intelligent access to get in it? If you do put the faraday pouch with the fob in it and touch the door handle. If the door unlocks then the pouch isn’t doing its job. I also have the keypad. I just need to find a way that my fob can’t be read while it’s in my pocket.
@@7863348Nothing happens when I touch the door knob. The system works great. The key under the back seat is effectively blocked. I got the bag off Amazon.
I think it was Land Rover who were developing a system whereby the key would just switch off if it didn't detect any movement for a period of time. That would stop scanners picking the code up while the vehicle was parked up at your address. There's really no reason for the key to be broadcasting 24/7. Try lining, or wrapping, your box in foil too!
Land Rover got that part figured. Over here you just can’t keep them working. I guess to be fair Ford got their issues as well. I’ll get this issue figured out then do an update video.
Me Bean has it figured out. He has a latch with a pad lock. I think auto manufactures should give customers an option 1) keyless entry or 2) keyed entry as in the old way. I for one would actually buy a keyed entry if I could get it. It looks like you faraday gear is attenuating the fob signal at best rather than blocking the signal. Be interesting to put a cell phone in your faraday box and try to call it.
Paul and Kathy go get a roll aluminum tape cover your faraday box 📦 and little key 🔑 bags . Paul clean 🧼 your double barrel shot gun . 😊. Iiiiii iiiii new about the aluminum trick 10 yrs ago . 😊
Hi folks. If you carry the aluminum foil around with you be careful that a zealous police officer doesn’t arrest you for having drug paraphernalia. Cheers, John
Well the pouch is for the fob. The idea of having it is to prevent some scammer from gaining access to the code while it’s on your person. That being said, after the video ended I put the fob in the pouch and then into the Faraday box and I was still able to get in the vehicle with the intelligent access so it was a complete failure. People including myself need to not assume all of these things are created equal and test them as soon as they receive them.
@@7863348 I recall my late Dad saying about cars " the more complicated it is , the more can go wrong with it " . "and don't sign anything till you read it " , you wouldn't buy it if you knew about it .
Paul & Cathy, what a frikken great team; Tin foil hats and all !!!!
Thanks for the fantastic PS message.
Paul and Kathy thank you for the heads up. Give the box and the bags to Kathy sell on her web site ha ha.
LOLOL ... GREAT idea 👌👍👍
Thanks that was an informative video. You could make a Faraday box out of a conductive metal. the lid and the bottom would have to overlap and make an electrical connection.
I’m going to line the box with hvac aluminum tape and try it.
In Florida were going to the Swamp Buggy races and we stopped at a Wells Fargo and used the atm machine. In a few days we get a call from the bank and our debt card was compromised. Then we thought back to where it could have happened. Then we remembered there was a guy in a van and he had a card reader on the machine. We had that happen so many times while living in Florida. Everything is fine here in Missouri, so far. Line that box with lead.
Part of the reason for the video was to make people aware of the scammers. As for the faraday box I’m going to line it with HVAC tinfoil duct tape and try it.
That was very interesting thanks for sharing take care
After the video ended I put the fob in its Faraday pouch then placed the pouch in the faraday box and I could still open the bronco lol. So my conclusion wad that if your going to take people advice and buy a Faraday box for protection you better check to see if they actually work.
Paul" Part of the "Faraday" effect is that the shield (conductive shell) of the box or baf, is
should be connected to a good Earth Ground. That way, any Electro Magnetic Field radiation, will be conducted to ground and "killed." That works with EMF going in or comming out. Your Aluminium foil works, because Al is more magnetically restrictive - you might say "Dense" _ Than the coper foil on the box or the mesh of the bag. In the case of the products you bought, the foil or mesh becomes a sort of antenna for the fob signal, so it still gets out, only in a much weakened state. we could talk about this stuff for hours, if you want to, but I think you've found the solution to your problem.
I really enjoy your videos about how things work, or get done. I've learned a lot over the years. Thanks!
That’s great info Jim. I’ve had those Faraday dooflickies over a year now and only today did I even question if they actually worked so did the test and of course they don’t work lol. I even put the fob in its little case and then I put in the box which should be double protection and I could still open the door. Utter garbage. Thanks for watching and commenting. Hope all is going well on your end.
Fantastic demonstration on security. Loved it.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
unintended consequences. making the vehicle more convenient to unlock and drive, has also made it easier to steal. I always thought the key fob was an idea to fix a problem than never existed. then again i never had an opportunity to use one. so maybe i am missing out on all this CONVENIENCE ahahaha 🤪🤪
Exactly. Seems the technology is going backwards.
If somebody tried to steal from me I'd put up a fight, I'm 63 years old and a veteran.
I’m with you. I’d do the same. I might not win but they’re be one heck of a mess to clean up regardless.
Hi Paul and Kathy great video! Thank you for the great information. I own a 24 Tundra and Toyota allows you to turn off your fob by holding the lock button and then press the unlock button two times. Now your remote is off and can't broadcast the signal. I wonder if Ford or Ram as a similar feature.
That’s a great system. I’m going to do more research on this and see if there’s something that I’m not aware of. Appreciate you watching and commenting.
"Thank you" Paul ..... Amazon got me for $37 4 months ago .... I just now "tested" mine and it too DIDN'T BLOCK the Fob signal .... Money wasted !!! So, I carry a strip of foil in my pocket, and a spare in my Jeep . Much gratitude sir !!! (Rick from Massachusetts)
Rick if you have the pouches. Look inside. If yours have two compartments put your key in the silver section of the pouch and close the pouch. It should work then. My latest ones work like that. Ride safe bud.
Thanks Guys. I can envision You "Modding" up your own Faraday Box ..
lol. I think it’s going to be a simple mod. I’m going to get some HVAC foil duct tape and line the box with it. Not to worry. I will test it lol
Great video guys it just shows how easy people can get sucked into buying something that won't work. Safe travels. Ken.
Exactly Ken. Maybe this will bring some awareness to the subject.
That's why I like my key! I'm old fashion! Great video. From Northern Maine 🙂;]
Awesome video Paul! I'm with you. I'm not just handing over my hard earned things. I'm going to make me a foil lined box.
You can do it! It will be better than what you can buy. Good luck. 🤞
Thanks for the info.
Any time! Thanks for watching.
Very informative video. Thanks for passing on your findings.
Glad you enjoyed it
You, my friend, are the mod father -- fix it. Line the box with foil and see if it works, Good luck and great video!🤠
Thanks 👍. I think I’m going to buy a great big gun safe and put the key fob in there 😂
Thats amazing Paul.
Thank you.
I'm just going to put my fob under my hat. Thanks for sharing this information with your users. I will keep my thoughts on the problem to myself. There is Canadian UA-camr (GP Outdoors) who had his truck stolen because of this tech. It's no joke. They saw his truck, followed him home, and used a device to extend the range of his fob and in the morning he discovered his truck was missing. They believe it was put into a container and shipped out of Canada to somewhere far away. I will stop commenting further. Enjoy the Journey - Cheers
Great information! Thank You!
Glad it was helpful!
Paul, What if you lined the box with Foil?
And also the pouches would that work.
My autos are older so I really don't have this problem.
But I am with ya on this.
You work all your life for what you have you pay big money for stuff you have.
Here where I live we have valuable stuff too my Wife is priceless to me and I will protect her.
My tools are valuable as is my Hatchet collection. Somebody comes to my house to take my stuff
maybe in for a repair at the local ER 45s and 40 cals do leave fairly big messes.
Moral of this don't monkey with someone else's monkey. Stay safe folks.
Ya Foil will work but I’m going to develop something more permanent. As for defending our stuff. I like your stand on the theft issue. They might get it if they come here but they’re not leaving in the shape they arrived in and most likely not even the same vehicle.
What I learned from my old RCMP friends, yes there are still some trustable old guts is to put a hidden battery disconect which you can set when you park in unsavoury places. In Ontario and many US places this works well as the thieves work fast but any hold up in time means they skidaddle and find an easier target. The hidden disconect should be out side the vehicle anywhere unsuspious. These disconnects disconect the ignition module like an error code and she won't start. Now if it is a Chysler don't worry it won't start anyway.
Yes I’ve done similar things with some of our vehicles but with these new Broncos they are online all the time. So many computers in them now. I got in one time last year and it told me not to use it for 15 minutes because it was in the middle of a live update. I can tell where it’s located by my phone. Start it from anywhere. All other kinds of data available to me but can’t stop anyone from steeling it lol. The world is gone completely mad.
Not surprised that box doesn’t work, definitely good advice using the foil. what I am surprised about is how far that fob works from. My wife’s Dodge Journey you gotta be right there at the door for it to work, and it only will unlocked the driver door for safety so no one can jump in your passenger seat. I didn’t know that they can try to steal the signal whenever, I thought it was just when you were using it. Learn something new. Glad to see you guys back and doing well.
Yes they can steal the code and that’s why there’s Faraday pouches. Same with credit cards. They can steal them as well without taking the actual card. I’m hoping this video will bring more awareness to the issue. Thanks for watching. Hope you’re doing well.
You can also hold the lock and unlock buttons on a Toyota which disables the wireless function.
That’s a great feature 👍
You can easily fix that 'easy entry' design shortfall Paul - You can design a new accessory for attachment to any Bronko - A Hasp & Staple complete with a Padlock! One for each of the 5 doors per vehicle. Every Bronko owner should be crying out for a set of those. 🤔
oh that would look super cool 😎
Paul by I never understood why they got rid of the key to start the vehicle. This issue is this push button ignition and why can't you disable the key fob when you leave the vehicle. Dare will be some crowd now over to Dollar Store buying up tinfoil to wrap up dare keys.
Well you are absolutely right. Although vehicles were stolen back then they were harder to steal so our technology has actually went backwards in that department.
great video. Hard to beat good ole tin foil
You got that right!
Well the people who steel the cars are lazy also and don’t want to half to use a key to open the door. Seems like with technology we keep taking steps backwards. Thanks for sharing.
Pretty interesting.
nice to know
I had a bad key for my dodge truck that kept locking the doors every couple of seconds. I didn’t have a Phillips screwdriver small enough and assumed the battery was dying. I used this exact method to seal it off while we used the spare key to get home. A new battery in the remote fixed the problem
cool. Glad it worked out for you,
It is a sad thing that you have to go to all of this trouble to keep what you worked for.
We’re all like that these days. I’m not saying they won’t get it but they will have to outsmart me first and even then they’re going to be in pretty bad shape to enjoy it.
And if I come by wanting one of your cars don't want Billy maybe little killer for an hour if it snows over to the local church or if it's a drive I'd go with ol blue ( the best you have ever shown on the channel)
lol. Lots of options. They’d never get Ol Blue. There’s a systemic way of starting him. You miss a step and he’s not moving. It’s my own development theft deterrent system.
I have that faraday bag and it works for my Lexus. There is two spots you can put the key on the inside, I think you were putting the key outside of that internal pouch.
nope. I put it in the shielded side of the pouch plus I put it in the box and was still able to open the doors via the intelligent access option
I leave my 2023 F150 key in a Faraday bag under my back seat in a lock box. It works as otherwise I could never lock the truck as it would think I am inside. As I have a key code to enter the truck if I ever lose my key, I can get the spare under the back seat.
Do you have intelligent access to get in it? If you do put the faraday pouch with the fob in it and touch the door handle. If the door unlocks then the pouch isn’t doing its job. I also have the keypad. I just need to find a way that my fob can’t be read while it’s in my pocket.
@@7863348Nothing happens when I touch the door knob. The system works great. The key under the back seat is effectively blocked. I got the bag off Amazon.
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I think it was Land Rover who were developing a system whereby the key would just switch off if it didn't detect any movement for a period of time. That would stop scanners picking the code up while the vehicle was parked up at your address. There's really no reason for the key to be broadcasting 24/7.
Try lining, or wrapping, your box in foil too!
Land Rover got that part figured. Over here you just can’t keep them working. I guess to be fair Ford got their issues as well. I’ll get this issue figured out then do an update video.
Buddy was probably on Facebook talking to the girlfriend the wife and the mistress trying to keep all separate by
Me Bean has it figured out. He has a latch with a pad lock. I think auto manufactures should give customers an option 1) keyless entry or 2) keyed entry as in the old way. I for one would actually buy a keyed entry if I could get it. It looks like you faraday gear is attenuating the fob signal at best rather than blocking the signal. Be interesting to put a cell phone in your faraday box and try to call it.
Gotta love Mr. Bean. Sometimes the simplest solutions are the best.
Paul and Kathy go get a roll aluminum tape cover your faraday box 📦 and little key 🔑 bags . Paul clean 🧼 your double barrel shot gun . 😊. Iiiiii iiiii new about the aluminum trick 10 yrs ago . 😊
Can you put the foil in the box to stop the signal try to let us know
Very true 👍
You could have returned it to amazon if it was within one month.
lol. I bought it last year assuming it worked. It only occurred to me that I never actually rested it so I figured I’d show the test in a video.
@@7863348 the car thieves probably sold it to you. But maybe they don't make it to the island! 🤣🤣
Hi folks. If you carry the aluminum foil around with you be careful that a zealous police officer doesn’t arrest you for having drug paraphernalia. Cheers, John
Well I thought about that but I’m getting Kathy to put the foil in her purse. If we get stopped I’ll just point to her 😅😂🤣
Hey Paul, I was wondering if you could make me the exhaust mod diverter for my Kubota B2650..... Thanks!
We have them on our web page for both cab and non cab models.
how many are sold with same result as that . might be a uneducated idea but would the fob in the pouch and put in the faraday box be better .
Well the pouch is for the fob. The idea of having it is to prevent some scammer from gaining access to the code while it’s on your person. That being said, after the video ended I put the fob in the pouch and then into the Faraday box and I was still able to get in the vehicle with the intelligent access so it was a complete failure. People including myself need to not assume all of these things are created equal and test them as soon as they receive them.
@@7863348 that question is answered . I haven't much knowledge about them . they're as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike
@@7863348 I recall my late Dad saying about cars " the more complicated it is , the more can go wrong with it " . "and don't sign anything till you read it " , you wouldn't buy it if you knew about it .
I could never buy a newer car with all the RF entry. I even removed the radio fob receiver from my 1998 Corvette. I hate this computer crap in cars.
Not me. I love technology but it do have a few wrinkles to iron out.
the van did you take license plate number?
I didn’t see any point. Technically there was nothing he was doing that was illegal and I couldn’t prove otherwise.