Why General Zod VS Thragg Isn't Even Close!

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  • General Zod vs Grand Regent Thragg! Two of the toughest and most powerful warlords in comics are set to conquer the Earth for their empires, but really…this fight isn’t even close
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 721

  • @Animeaddiction
    @Animeaddiction 5 місяців тому +895

    General Zod is Superman with none of Kal-El's morals. Thragg gets thrashed.

    • @tissueoflies2780
      @tissueoflies2780 5 місяців тому +63

      Counterpoint: Kyptonians are superpowered when they absorb yellow sunlight, whereas a Viltrumites' Power is everpresent, it is absolutely concievable that someone as ruthless as Thragg could engineer circumstances where he wins that fight. Remember the immortal words of the late Stan Lee, whoever the author wants to win will win, they will find a way.

    • @Animeaddiction
      @Animeaddiction 5 місяців тому +33

      @tissueoflies2780 General Zod is one of the best military minds from Krypton. He could easily engineer circumstances to favor him. The author's input means nothing.

    • @Madeintheshade65
      @Madeintheshade65 5 місяців тому +31

      ⁠@@AnimeaddictionGiven these are two fictional characters authors input means everything

    • @Animeaddiction
      @Animeaddiction 5 місяців тому +15

      @Madeintheshade65 If you're saying author's input means everything, then BOTH sides get it. And we're back to the same scenario where Zod's superior Kryptonian powers trump Thragg's Viltrumite abilities.

    • @ericaugust1501
      @ericaugust1501 5 місяців тому +5

      wrong. kryptonians have a fatal weakness. that fundamental weakness renders them vulnerable to the viltrumites who possess no weaknesses. you can't just imagine their best abilities against each other. you also have to incorporate their critical weaknesses if any. and when it comes to kryptonians, they drew a short straw when it comes to planetary scale power.

  • @craigwilliams1073
    @craigwilliams1073 5 місяців тому +672

    Battle Beast would have won if he didn't nobly damage himself!

    • @AlexTikhonovich
      @AlexTikhonovich 5 місяців тому +67

      well, Thragg was damaged equally. All you saying is if Battle Beast took advantage of weaken state of Thragg then he'd win. That not that much an achievement (even what really happend in comic is more impressive than what you suggesting)

    • @chilloutbo3539
      @chilloutbo3539 5 місяців тому +41

      @@AlexTikhonovichtrue the fact that battle beast had a chance to win is still a high feat tho. Even if he didn’t wound himself thragg I believe would’ve still given em an ok fight but ultimately thragg would’ve lost

    • @ETS-hk1fh
      @ETS-hk1fh 5 місяців тому +10

      @@chilloutbo3539 because thragg was injured? It goes against BBs warrior like character if he fights opponents at their weakest

    • @Hyralamellow
      @Hyralamellow 5 місяців тому +14

      @@AlexTikhonovich TBF, Thragg had a far superior healing factor in comparison to Battle Beast. BB bit open Thragg’s head, for crying out loud.

    • @bobby6009
      @bobby6009 5 місяців тому +4

      ok fanboy, study more.
      battle beast is high level in Invincible universe which every time you see thragg, you'll remember who battle beast was which is on thraggs shoulder haha

  • @10svntn
    @10svntn 4 місяці тому +139

    I love how majority of this video just explains thragg as a character and the proceeds into a short outro of how he absolutely stands no chance against Zod hence you have earned my sub 😂

  • @nslater1388
    @nslater1388 5 місяців тому +216

    Just because a comic is bloodier and infinitely more violent, doesn’t mean their characters are stronger.

    • @VengeDracul
      @VengeDracul 4 місяці тому +22

      Exactly. I am glad someone said this.

    • @komiahialoho4303
      @komiahialoho4303 4 місяці тому +7

      This oughta be pinned

    • @RunningWild.
      @RunningWild. 4 місяці тому +2

      Exactly. You'd think that wouldn't have to be said.

    • @Alecations
      @Alecations 4 місяці тому +12

      It actually means they're weaker:
      If someone shrugs off a galaxy exploding in their face, it's more impressive than being turned into a bloody pulp.

    • @RunningWild.
      @RunningWild. 4 місяці тому +3

      @@Alecations it doesn't mean that either. That's just your preference of style.

  • @Khan-rz8qi
    @Khan-rz8qi 5 місяців тому +791

    Wait, are we talking about General Zod the guy who repeatedly goes head to head with Superman? The same Superman who destroyed an entire solar system with just his sneeze?😂 Thragg gets thoroughly stomped point blank period!🤝💯

    • @NOGIMAD
      @NOGIMAD 5 місяців тому +61

      Well, it depends. Remember, Zod wasn’t nearly as powerful as Superman during their first fight because zod didn’t grow up on earth like Clark did. Zod did not have the luxury of being charged up by earths sun for however long Clark had been on earth.
      Thragg is in a complete state, meaning his power is at its peak. So I think, it would be a lot closer than a lot of people realize. Specially if thragg fights a Zod that is still not fully charged by the sun and still resorts to jumping instead of flying.

    • @Mayan_88694
      @Mayan_88694 5 місяців тому +26

      @@NOGIMADno it wouldn’t be close at all. Because Superman casually holds black holes the size of entire solar systems.

    • @Mayan_88694
      @Mayan_88694 5 місяців тому +20

      @@NOGIMADit wouldn’t be close at all, because Zod is on par with Superman. Who casually holds solar system sized black holes in his hand.

    • @user-zw2jt6tn6p
      @user-zw2jt6tn6p 5 місяців тому +7

      Yes guys zod is superman equal somewhat only so much like feral beating superman come on zod in general ain't coming close to old boy thragg and thragg has mad experience to

    • @chilloutbo3539
      @chilloutbo3539 5 місяців тому +15

      @@Mayan_88694 stop saying casually like he wasn’t absolutely gassed after doing that ridiculous shit. Use the Superman that uses all of his might to lift a car nd see what he does to thragg😂😂😂 ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

  • @Adamwofford
    @Adamwofford 5 місяців тому +35

    You also forgetting, Zod mindset, Zod is a general, from a world of ranks, and Zod was trained to be a general from birth, which means he can keep a cool head in battle, even if he starts to lose, him and superman, supergirl can think faster then others heroes or villains

    • @ericaugust1501
      @ericaugust1501 4 місяці тому +3

      jeez, you are ignorant. any hero with superspeed would think fast. its the only way superspeed works. your brain state has to match your physical state otherwise you would not be able to control your body for general articulation needed to manuver or fight or interact with the environment. ergo Viltrumites think in superspeed as well.

    • @charlesdoran2832
      @charlesdoran2832 4 місяці тому +1

      Also Thragg is a master tactician since he's at least 6,000 years old and not to mention he's conquered planets for most of those years, becoming Grand Regent around 2-3 thousand years prior to when he was first shown in the comics. I'm not disputing the strength difference or even the durability difference I'm disputing the idea that Zod is a smarter fighter or tactician or leader, personally on that level i believe they are relatively quite different as i just googled Zods age he's about 40 or 50 (if im wrong please correct me) so Thragg is a better general and general tactician as he is thousands of years older than Zod.

    • @ericaugust1501
      @ericaugust1501 4 місяці тому

      @@charlesdoran2832 absolutely agree. but i actually don't think there is, even remotely, good enough evidence that Zod is physically more powerful than Thragg. when you account for the fact that Zod is not Ka-el (and most of the claims of kryptonian feats are based on Kal-el, who grew up under a yellow sun...which Zod did not), then you account for the varied writers who wrote superman for 70 years, from from the outright silly to the grounded, from the absurdly lacking in realism to the realistic, also account for misunderstanding that readers take away from the unrealistic writers of superman, then account for the difference between a pg13 DC universe and a more adult Invincible universe, when you examine all that, you come away with realising Viltrumites are actually stronger than Kryptonians, with Kal-el, and specifically only Kal-el, capable of matching them or exceeding them.

    • @charlesdoran2832
      @charlesdoran2832 4 місяці тому +2

      @@ericaugust1501 thats an interesting point, but Zod has beaten or at least injured superman on several occasions believe me i wish that viltrumites were superior to kryptonians but they aren't simply because of their feats being compared, granted some of supermans feats were a bit wacky like sneezing away an entire solar system but it's still canon as for invincible he's capable of destroying planets not solar systems. As i said before Zod and Superman were able to go toe to toe which must mean they're on a similar plain of strength even though superman holds back. In my opinion, I still think Zod would beat Thragg physically but probably couldn't outsmart him, an interesting match up would be Allen the alien vs Zod, what are you thoughts on it?

    • @ericaugust1501
      @ericaugust1501 4 місяці тому

      @@charlesdoran2832 i will just add when you said 'so that is canon on wacky superman feats'. if we take everything as canon, we also have to take superman as being pretty weak as canon, like he was in the 50s 60s and 70s. thats the problem with superman, he is not a consistent character. canon of weak, or canon of strong, its all canon. Invincible has be benefit of a single writer, and concept so the species is consistent from start to finish (more or less). trying to canonize an inconsistent character has be an exercise of discarding some, and keeping the more sensible.
      as for Zod vs Superman... writers need to create tension i suppose, so the story might not make sense. i'd have to examine the Zod vs superman issues were Zod wins to see where the writers messed up the character continuity. the point is, in a very inconsistent character, just because it happened, doesn't mean its canon. sometimes it just the fever dreams of some bad writer.
      well, i don't know too much about Allen or the ending of the series (avoiding spoilers for the tv series, so resisting the temptation of reading the comics), but from the small temptations i have succumbed to, since Allen was an attempt to create someone stronger than the viltrumites, and it initially failed, and it required his 'second' evolution to perhaps match them, he would lose? arguably if Allen could have beaten Thragg, the series would not have needed Invincible, so from a plot point of view Allen should not be able to beat Thragg, and if he can't beat Thragg, and people claim Zod can beat Thragg... well, then Allen would fail :)

  • @user-po9xv3yh6m
    @user-po9xv3yh6m 5 місяців тому +53

    LETS GET THIS RIGHT...THRAGG WON ONLY BECAUSE BATTLE BEAST INJURED HIMSELF TO MAKE THE FIGHT FAIR AND BATTLE BEAST Didn't KNOW ABOUT THRAGGS HEALING POWER...Don't sugar coat that battle man ...BATTLE BEAST Could've DESTROYED THRAGG

    • @fd35g3
      @fd35g3 4 місяці тому +3

      DanCo has been making terrible videos lately. Leaving out super important content like that.
      Zod can't FTL even close to what a Viltrums can. Thragg would absolutely thrash Zod to pieces. Can avoid all lasers, is stonger, has thousands of years of fighting and destruction experience. Zod has zero idea of Viltrums weakness.
      Thragg would grab Zod at FTL+ and tosses him into a black hole within seconds.

    • @MyAramil
      @MyAramil 4 місяці тому +6

      @@fd35g3 And Superman has held black holes in his hand and walked around as if it where a a small bird. And since Zod more or less matches superman. As for speed? since Zod matches superman, and since superman not only heard Billies watch activate calling him from another galaxy away and got back to earth, again from another galaxy, within the span of a fight. That puts Zod at faster than Thragg.

    • @ebubejamesoriehi2921
      @ebubejamesoriehi2921 4 місяці тому

      ​@@fd35g3 He's clearly a DC boy😅

    • @ericaugust1501
      @ericaugust1501 4 місяці тому +1

      @@MyAramil what you are describing is probably sloppy writing. ie. the writer doesn't understand galactic distances when he wrote about jimmy's watch. you have to keep stuff like that in mind. which year was the comic written and compare it to popular culture at time. not everything in comics can be instantly and literally canon. Whereas the invincible universe attempts to be more realistic, so when they describe viltrumites FTL speeds, its far more likely to be accurate over the science-gibberish that too often used in the DC universe, and especially in 70s and 80s DC comics. maybe even 90s, physics and galactic knowledge was also still pretty weak.

    • @VengeDracul
      @VengeDracul 4 місяці тому +3

      @@fd35g3 Why do you assume this would happen? Zod goes toe to toe with Superman. You really think Thragg can handle Superman. Viltrumites can't even handle being in the Sun with out being burnt. Hate to break it to you, Zod is faster than Thragg. You don't need to know someone's weakness to beat them hand to hand. That has been proven in comics so many times already.
      Since you want to go do that route of Zod not knowing a weakness. Same thing can be said about Thragg having zero clue for Zod. No Viltrumite is beating a Krptonian.

  • @thebarkingmouse
    @thebarkingmouse 4 місяці тому +22

    Zod would easily destroy thragg unless thragg had some kryptonite. Not even close.

    • @MyAramil
      @MyAramil 4 місяці тому +4

      How would Thragg know about that rock?

  • @TheDjbenton
    @TheDjbenton 5 місяців тому +148

    Spawn vs Ghost Rider

  • @thefurrybastard1964
    @thefurrybastard1964 5 місяців тому +262

    Zod isn't merely stronger and tougher than Thragg, he's smarter. He knows how to fight without powers, and he mastered his powers when he got them. He's a master tactician and can evaluate opponents and formulate strategies against them while fighting them.

    • @ericaugust1501
      @ericaugust1501 5 місяців тому +3

      wrong. kryptonites have a fatal weakness. that fundamental weakness renders them vulnerable to the viltrumites who possess no weaknesses. you can't just imagine their best abilities against each other. you also have to incorporate their critical weaknesses if any. and when it comes to kryptonites, they drew a short straw when it comes to planetary scale power.

    • @bayoe-emmanuel6610
      @bayoe-emmanuel6610 5 місяців тому +46

      @@ericaugust1501are you only watching the tv show?

    • @killermacho444
      @killermacho444 5 місяців тому +22

      @@bayoe-emmanuel6610he’s probably watching the show

    • @killermacho444
      @killermacho444 5 місяців тому +36

      @@ericaugust1501bro, viltrumites have a lot of weakness, 1.-high temperatures, 2.-a human with a robot was able to contain mark just by using uh high levels of sound, I remember only those because I read the comic long ago.

    • @MachinaX7
      @MachinaX7 4 місяці тому +4

      @@killermacho444 To be fair Kryptonians are vulnerable to kryptonite, red sun radiation, high sounds as well, and magic.

  • @LeonardoTyrone-sr4qz
    @LeonardoTyrone-sr4qz 5 місяців тому +90

    Bro if what you and death battle said is true about viltramites healing factors having a hard time in the sun then that favors the General because while Thragg is getting weaker Zod is getting stronger

    • @Ketchup_and_Mustard373
      @Ketchup_and_Mustard373 5 місяців тому +17

      Exactly he's defeated because he was being melted by the sun. Superman/Zod can sit inside the core of a sun indefinitely. Kryptonians are superior

    • @LeonardoTyrone-sr4qz
      @LeonardoTyrone-sr4qz 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Ketchup_and_Mustard373 Right

    • @ericaugust1501
      @ericaugust1501 4 місяці тому +3

      @@Ketchup_and_Mustard373 no, Thragg will laugh at Zod sitting in the sun and go have drink at the local bar. then when Zod leaves after realising how moronic he is sitting in the sun doing nothing (also pretty sure that is a Kal-el strength, NOT a Zod strength, but whatever) he'll punch him thru the head while holding the tiniest piece of kryptonite. the end. Kryptonians have a fundamental weakness which they cannot avoid. Not to mention, red suns. everytime Zod sees a red sun, he has to shit his pants for fear of any fight going near it.

    • @animeverse-bc3cu
      @animeverse-bc3cu 4 місяці тому +7

      ​@@ericaugust1501Bro, average kryptonians in the comics are easily galaxy level. They also get powered up by any star except red star. Viltrumites have more weaknesses compared to kryptonians. A single kryptonian would solo the entire invincible verse.

    • @ericaugust1501
      @ericaugust1501 4 місяці тому

      @@animeverse-bc3cu bruh, kryptonians are an extinct species for a reason, they just aren't that impressive. You and others keep saying that Viltrumites have weakness but you never list any. And to be clear: sonics don't count as everyone is vulnerable to them (and its a weapon, and weapons don't count), germ warfare doesn't count since all species are vulnerable to targeted biological weapons (and again this is a developed weapon so it doesn't count as weakness). The last, and most stupid suggestion for a weakness was viltrumites can't survive forever in a sun. This is colossally stupid since a) the fight would not take place in a sun, and b) if the fight did take place in the sun Zod would die anyway, since Thragg is holding kryptonite at the time. but also c) I don't believe that Zod can survive in a sun. i think that ability is exclusive to Kal-el because he matured/grew up under a yellow sun.
      point is none of the above are weaknesses.... meanwhile kryptonians have ACTUAL weaknesses, red suns AND kryptonite. Can you actually name a weakness that viltrumites have other than: if you damage them with physical and sonic attacks until they finally die? because kryptonians ALSO die when you subject them to endless physical and sonic attacks which doomsday proved. I need something MORE than physical and sonic attacks that both would be vulnerable to, and are NOT weaknesses.

  • @damianstarks3338
    @damianstarks3338 5 місяців тому +31

    The outcome of this fight is just like the fight between Superman and Omni Man

  • @hollowroxas4742
    @hollowroxas4742 4 місяці тому +12

    Zod:”You don’t seem to understand. Earth isn’t yours to conquer.”

  • @callmejacob3234
    @callmejacob3234 5 місяців тому +81

    Nobody wants the Lego Batman smoke he solos all. The only worthy opponent is Shaggy.

  • @ChrisDftw_
    @ChrisDftw_ 4 місяці тому +15

    Zod would rip out thraggs spine than go on to vaporize the rest of the viltrumites at lightspeed

  • @owenscott6159
    @owenscott6159 5 місяців тому +51

    Danny phantom vs invincible is even close

  • @proplayer341
    @proplayer341 5 місяців тому +25

    Battle beast was pre Injured too

    • @josecuestas7246
      @josecuestas7246 5 місяців тому +3

      And Thragg as well, as a bunch of Ragnars managed to disembowled him, making that Battle Beast gutted himself, to makes their duel fair.

  • @PJigggy
    @PJigggy 5 місяців тому +21

    This has been like the 3rd time this video is put out man basically 😂. Khryptonians just stomp Viltrimites.

    • @tayelolu_bells8241
      @tayelolu_bells8241 4 місяці тому +1

      What of in a red sun universe

    • @dragonmagic9872
      @dragonmagic9872 3 місяці тому

      @@tayelolu_bells8241 That is unfair because kryptonians are powerless under a red sun.

  • @budexlexxy9319
    @budexlexxy9319 5 місяців тому +10

    Pit zod against Darkseid, then we can have a real conversation.

    • @friendlyfire2374
      @friendlyfire2374 4 місяці тому

      But we are not talking about darkseid,we are talking a out zodiac vs thragg 😐

  • @kenndogg1481
    @kenndogg1481 5 місяців тому +15

    KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!

  • @richardkim3652
    @richardkim3652 4 місяці тому +7

    All the Invincible fanboys crying because they can't take the obvious answer.

  • @koop2.1.5
    @koop2.1.5 5 місяців тому +5

    Kryptonians are too durable. They can dish it out & take it, no diddy

  • @hardhitter1016
    @hardhitter1016 5 місяців тому +14

    You loaded this up yesterday

    • @hardhitter1016
      @hardhitter1016 5 місяців тому

      @@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 got it

  • @SofaKing2001
    @SofaKing2001 4 місяці тому +7

    No way there are comments saying Thragg would win 😂 I want what they're smoking

  • @omarjabali3541
    @omarjabali3541 4 місяці тому +2

    Kryptonians are on another level

  • @damianpatterson9363
    @damianpatterson9363 5 місяців тому +5

    DanCo, you forgot to mention that the only reason Invincible, his father, and Thaddeus were able to destroy the planet Viltrum was that the Space Racer softened it up with his blaster first. That example doesn't prove that high-level Viltrumites can physically destroy planets by themselves. When Anissa talked about destroying Earth, she meant destroying all of the people on it, not the planet itself. Also, Mark never matched Thragg in strength, even at the end. The only reason he beat Thragg in the end was because he got help from Robot.

    • @grizzlymelon8376
      @grizzlymelon8376 5 місяців тому +2

      Honestly, i tuned out when he failed to mention that part. So far there is absolutely no feat whatsoever putting Viltrumites (even the strongest ones) at planetary

  • @TheDjbenton
    @TheDjbenton 5 місяців тому +9

    Supergirl (DCEU) vs Superboy (Titans)

  • @PeaceKeeper-md2tr
    @PeaceKeeper-md2tr 5 місяців тому +5

    "Thragg will kneel before Zod." Do videos on Silver Age Superman Vs Classic Adam Warlock, Superboy/Superman Prime Vs The Magus, & Cosmic Armor Superman Vs LT Adam Warlock. Also, do videos on The Silver Surfer Vs Captain Atom & The Punisher Vs David Cain.

  • @nwaynwayeibomdy-1610
    @nwaynwayeibomdy-1610 5 місяців тому +72

    I swear all vultrimites or whatever the name was, are made of paper. So easy to tear apart.😂😂😂

    • @SHAKE-S-PIERRE
      @SHAKE-S-PIERRE 5 місяців тому +12

      That’s because they actually try to, rarely to people in dc fight like that

    • @jaccblikky8977
      @jaccblikky8977 5 місяців тому

      The ragnars bite their heads off easily.😂

    • @ExpertContrarian
      @ExpertContrarian 5 місяців тому +6

      “characters actually die in the adult comic book as opposed to the one meant for children” duh

    • @ericaugust1501
      @ericaugust1501 4 місяці тому

      @@SHAKE-S-PIERRE its more a case of the DC universe is a fake universe. its all pg-13 so no one has 'real world physical bodies' and barely any blood. its all silly childish nonsense.

  • @saviong.4076
    @saviong.4076 5 місяців тому +12

    I've been waiting for someone to start throwing Thragg into some match up's! I think a Thragg VS. Vegeta video would be great, just putting that into the universe...

    • @blacksuperman9891
      @blacksuperman9891 5 місяців тому +24

      Anything beyond saiyan saga and thragg gets destroyed

    • @chilloutbo3539
      @chilloutbo3539 5 місяців тому +10

      @@blacksuperman9891not even a debate I still got saiyan saga vegeta tho bro was blowing up planets with ease

    • @pegeta
      @pegeta 5 місяців тому

      This is actually a hilarious, bad idea, if you follow either comic.

    • @MyAramil
      @MyAramil 4 місяці тому

      At the weakest we see Vageta, he casually destroys an entire planet with a single attack.
      Id argue that especially with the universe tournament in the super edition, Vageta would be faster than thragg by far.

  • @dirtomega
    @dirtomega 4 місяці тому +2

    Thragg doesn’t have a prayer against any fully powered Kryptonian.

  • @Ktw12344
    @Ktw12344 5 місяців тому +7

    Request: Slattern vs breacher

  • @jacktheripper704
    @jacktheripper704 5 місяців тому +6

    Love the videos so keep up the good work! Could you do Hal Jordan vs Jon Stewart

  • @miguelcapacite4513
    @miguelcapacite4513 4 місяці тому +5

    Zod will just take a bath on the Sun, while Thragg melts.

    • @ericaugust1501
      @ericaugust1501 4 місяці тому +2

      Zod melts in a red sun. also Thragg will not waste time in any suns, he'll go have a beer... a beer in a kryptonite mug, while he waits for Zod to muster the cahones to even approach him.

    • @robinsdoom
      @robinsdoom 4 місяці тому

      @@ericaugust1501thats a very unwise idea for thragg. kryptonite is radioactive for any lifeform that doesnt have resistance to it like doomsday. it can give cancer to humans over time. thragg is not that guy in the dc universe LMAO hes abt as powerful a threat in dc as anything a random green lantern faces on a tuesday.

    • @dragonmagic9872
      @dragonmagic9872 Місяць тому

      @@ericaugust1501 Then when General Zod even begins to approach Thragg, he'll laugh as he parties with Thraggs head in his hands and his mutilated corpse on the ground. Laughing about how dumb Thragg must be to think he could beat Zod. Also, how the heck does Thragg even know what kryptonite is? do kryptonians make a habit of going around the galaxy and exposing their fatal weakness to all their enemies?

    • @ericaugust1501
      @ericaugust1501 Місяць тому

      @@dragonmagic9872 Yes, everyone knows about the kryptonite weakness. everyone. the fall of the kryptonian empire is well known in any galaxy that follows history, let alone a viltrumite empire that has existed for millennia gathering intel everywhere.... everyone has heard how the stupid kryptonians blew themselves up before they even mastered space travel. thats right, they never mastered space travel, if they had, they'd have colonized other worlds. since they didn't, we have to assume only jor-el knew how to build spaceships.
      i know this flies in the face of some superman stories by stupid writers who are too stupid to comprehend what the fact that there are no kyrptonian colonies means. the kryptonians are such a galactic joke at this point, that all their failings were well publicized.. and ps. Zod is routinely mocked for being such a loser from a backward hick world, thinking he is some sort of general mastermind, where his only offworld experience was when he was thrown in prison.

  • @soupnjuice5907
    @soupnjuice5907 4 місяці тому +3

    Omniman , invincible and Thaddeus flew behind the infinity ray shot through planet viltrum

  • @TheDjbenton
    @TheDjbenton 5 місяців тому +11

    General Zod vs Black Adam

  • @Kongo-Slade007
    @Kongo-Slade007 4 місяці тому +1

    ZoD is like the bad ass version of superman ,with out any moral limitation like superman ,and is too OP

  • @user-qv8du3xz7h
    @user-qv8du3xz7h 5 місяців тому +3

    Superman prime vs Dr.Manhattan

  • @ColinWhitworth
    @ColinWhitworth 4 місяці тому +1

    Do Charlie Brown vs Garfield.

  • @PhoenixDS717
    @PhoenixDS717 5 місяців тому +5

    Easy win for Zod

  • @scellytoon0648
    @scellytoon0648 4 місяці тому +1

    thragg never stood a chance

  • @ragemonster4277
    @ragemonster4277 4 місяці тому +2

    Kirkman right now is seething

  • @CanineLupus0114
    @CanineLupus0114 5 місяців тому +2

    Zod would solo the entire viltrum empire
    the sun is 10,340 F which can burn viltrumites while kryptonians survived exploding universes that shit is no competition

  • @vince3918
    @vince3918 4 місяці тому +1

    Thrag is going to be a bloody minced meat when Zod is done with him

  • @howardcrews4410
    @howardcrews4410 5 місяців тому +2

    general zods bodies Thragg then conguers thraggs race and unites them with the kryptonians.

  • @ilikeknives1000
    @ilikeknives1000 5 місяців тому +1

    all zod needs is a yellow sun for powerup whilst thrag is as strong as he's gonna get

  • @TheDjbenton
    @TheDjbenton 5 місяців тому +3

    Queen Maeve (The Boys) vs She-Hulk (MCU)

  • @joshputzke5400
    @joshputzke5400 4 місяці тому +1

    *zod show himself in front of the viltrumite empire, while holding thagg's servered head in hand*
    zod: let me show all of you viltrimites, in the same way i showed your so called "grand regent". *zod's eyes glowing red* why earth is not yours to conquer

  • @leekuanlewis8926
    @leekuanlewis8926 2 місяці тому +1

    Battle beast killed himself, Thrag was not able to do so

  • @EmHotep4520
    @EmHotep4520 5 місяців тому +2

    The Guyver vs Ironman.

  • @iamthesenete9123
    @iamthesenete9123 5 місяців тому +2

    This is pretty much the same story as Omni man vs superman. Kryptonians are just far stronger than Viltrumites

  • @joshuariccio9754
    @joshuariccio9754 5 місяців тому +3

    How about Green Lantern (John Stewart) vs. Piccolo

  • @rootin222
    @rootin222 5 місяців тому +1

    ithe entire invincible universe vs Dr. Manhattan

  • @Hurricanelive
    @Hurricanelive 5 місяців тому +2

    Three... with the help of a magic bullet that did 99% of the heavy lifting to make it even remotely possible. Thragg Kneels... and serves Oouston!

  • @spawn2414
    @spawn2414 5 місяців тому +3

    Master Chief vs the entire marvel and dc universe

    • @ZeroDarkness-
      @ZeroDarkness- 5 місяців тому +1

      It would be hard for Master Chief
      Unless somehow he been aided by Doom Guy and Samus

    • @_nightshade_gaming4792
      @_nightshade_gaming4792 4 місяці тому

      Well....he aint gonna go pretty far tbh

  • @Hevenlee
    @Hevenlee 4 місяці тому

    one thing people forget to mention with the planet viltrum busting feat is that it was those 3 viltrumites AND the space racers laser shooting through the planet all at once.

  • @nephyr6292
    @nephyr6292 2 місяці тому

    Kryptonians just scale way higher then anything in the invincible universe

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow8782 5 місяців тому +2

    Great!

  • @carloscenteno1766
    @carloscenteno1766 3 місяці тому

    Suggestion: Adriana Vazquez (Welxome to Alcapulco) vs Batgirl (DC Comics)

  • @CloroxBleach-qy7vy
    @CloroxBleach-qy7vy 5 місяців тому +9

    Worth noting that thragg would’ve killed invincible during their battle on the sun if robot didnt temporarily help mark out. Even while being cooked by a star thragg woulda outlasted invincible had he not had a semi invincible suit on. Shows that even a end of series mark (before timeskip) still needed outside help to put him down, and would have died had allen not saved him. Zod still clears though.

    • @ericaugust1501
      @ericaugust1501 4 місяці тому

      people keep saying Zod can survive in a sun (assuming its yellow because a red sun kills him instantly), but do you have any proof. Superman surviving in a yellow sun is NOT proof, because superman grew up under a yellow sun. Zod DID not. therefore there is reason to believe only superman can survive inside a yellow sun because of his relationship to it, of absorbing its radiation his entire life.
      ps. that the 'sun gives kryptonians their power' is a retarded concept, that only makes sense to lazy 60s, 70s, 80s writers. there is zero difference between a red and yellow sun apart from their color being determined by their temperature. kryptonians needs to be rewritten to remove the sun from their source of power. i'm fine with them being able to use solar radiation to "eat" and sustain themselves (like a battery recharge, but recharging my battery does not give it MORE power suddenly, it just restores the existing power), so solar radiation of any kind should not be connected to their source of strength or have the ability to strip away their strength.

  • @bennycaustic5102
    @bennycaustic5102 5 місяців тому

    I like how even Thragg thought Battle Beast was insane

  • @scottmadoff7444
    @scottmadoff7444 5 місяців тому +4

    xenomorph's vs white spikes

    • @MyAramil
      @MyAramil 4 місяці тому

      I gotta give it to the Xenomorphs. I dont think the white spikes could withstand the acidic blood of the xenomorphs, And if a Whitespike gets a face hugger on it... Well then.

  • @millerrepin4452
    @millerrepin4452 4 місяці тому +1

    Viltrimites lose because their smart atoms crash after a software update.

  • @marcosalvarez6596
    @marcosalvarez6596 4 місяці тому

    I’d actually like to see this on death battle

  • @edo._danny2213
    @edo._danny2213 4 місяці тому

    A List of DC Characters that Solo the Invincible Verse: Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Martian Manhunter, Green Lantern, Shazam, John Constantine, Captain Atom, Doctor Manhattan, Firestorm, General Zod, H’el, Darkseid, Mongul, Brainiac, Doomsday, Lobo, SuperBoy (Jon Kent), SuperBoy (Conner Kent), SuperBoy Prime, Black Adam, Orion, Doctor Fate, and plenty more

  • @alexwilks2848
    @alexwilks2848 4 місяці тому

    What if the fight takes place in a solar system with a red sun?

  • @samueljackson2478
    @samueljackson2478 4 місяці тому

    Don't forget Battle Beast weakened himself by cutting his stomach exposing his intestines Thragg didn't do that he took advantage of Battle Beast's chosen weakness.

  • @BiggBlamm
    @BiggBlamm 4 місяці тому +1

    And Superman and Zod don’t move at the speed of light… just fast as a mf,

    • @dragonmagic9872
      @dragonmagic9872 Місяць тому

      In the comics they can, Superman can travel millions of times faster than light in outer space.

    • @Brendan-kx8iy
      @Brendan-kx8iy 5 днів тому

      Dawg they are well above even billions to quadrillions of times the speed of light

  • @willchurch8376
    @willchurch8376 3 місяці тому

    Thragg could use his FTL speed to smash into Zod. I imagine it would be similar to when a bug uses its speed to crash into my windshield.

  • @randallsosa5990
    @randallsosa5990 4 місяці тому

    Please do Why Green Lantern vs Iron Man isn't even close 🤞🏿😎💯

  • @TheDjbenton
    @TheDjbenton 5 місяців тому +1

    Jean Grey Dark Phoenix (X-Men Films) vs Scarlet Witch (MCU) vs Raven (Titans)

  • @christopherbonilla6622
    @christopherbonilla6622 5 місяців тому +1

    Jon Kent Vs Mark Grayson

  • @gtfomyeggs
    @gtfomyeggs 5 місяців тому +12

    honestly this is more of a Viltrumite vs Kryptonian debate and i have to give it to Kryptonians

    • @ericaugust1501
      @ericaugust1501 4 місяці тому +1

      no. Kryptonians have too many fundamental weaknesses which viltrumites do not suffer from, like kryptonite rock and red sun solar radiation.

    • @robinsdoom
      @robinsdoom 4 місяці тому +3

      @@ericaugust1501even with those weaknesses, punching a viltrumite would be like punching through cardboard for a kryptonian.

    • @dragonmagic9872
      @dragonmagic9872 Місяць тому

      @@ericaugust1501 Pointing out a kryptonians weaknesses is irrelevant, this is a 1v1 battle between Zod and Thragg, not a debate on who has the most weaknesses.

    • @ericaugust1501
      @ericaugust1501 Місяць тому

      @@dragonmagic9872 its extremely relevant since critical physical weaknesses will play a role in any realistic battle for survival, not some fantasy boxing match, which Thragg won't waste his time with, because he does not have a child-mind like Zod, born on a backward world, that didn't master space travel, and blew itself up at the first opportunity.

    • @dragonmagic9872
      @dragonmagic9872 Місяць тому

      @@ericaugust1501 Alright, since you think you have all the answers, how the heck is Thragg going to get his hands on kryptonite in the first place? As if Zod would give Thragg a chance to even begin his search for green rocks he should have no knowledge of in the first place. Sorry, but Thragg loses horribly, end of discussion.

  • @edwardjohnson9444
    @edwardjohnson9444 5 місяців тому +2

    Thanos vs Mangog

  • @stephenchambers7972
    @stephenchambers7972 5 місяців тому +1

    if both thragg and battle beast were at full strength and health, the battle could go either way and I am putting my money on battle beast and thragg is still at a better advantage just because of his healing factor.

  • @NatukeToritseju-hh4ji
    @NatukeToritseju-hh4ji 5 місяців тому

    Request: Iron man vs Optimus prime

  • @randytafolla7159
    @randytafolla7159 4 місяці тому

    You should do one of Lobo vs. Battle Beast 😎

  • @JohanSkotkonung
    @JohanSkotkonung 4 місяці тому +1

    Would you ever be willing to cover the Eldrazi Vs Tyranids??

    • @hollowroxas4742
      @hollowroxas4742 4 місяці тому

      I’d say the Eldrazi got it simply because the titans never actually die and I don’t think the Nids can seal them away. It’d probably end in a stalemate though since during their war, they end up eating the entirety of their plain/planet.

  • @Psykolord1989
    @Psykolord1989 5 місяців тому +2

    I can't help but imagine a Zod - weakened by being trapped in the Phantom Zone -getting out and almost immediately getting in a fight with Thragg.
    (Zod) *grabs Thragg and grins* "Perhaps you're worthy of Zod's time after all. Let's take this to the next level!"
    *sundips, still holding Thragg*
    (Thragg) *super ultra mega dies*
    "Aha, and now we-"
    *sees he's holding a charred skeleton*
    "...Zod thought you were stronger."

  • @coreykindle3037
    @coreykindle3037 4 місяці тому

    Don't worry Thragg just bring kryptonite with you, you'll be fine

    • @dragonmagic9872
      @dragonmagic9872 Місяць тому

      Is this the matrix? How does Thragg just know what kryptonite is and how to get it? Well, if Thragg gets to bring kryptonite then Zod gets to bring a high frequency noise device, so Thragg can weaken Zod and Zod can cause Thragg intense pain through high frequency sound.

  • @dylanwagner6215
    @dylanwagner6215 5 місяців тому

    I humbly request a Superman knockoff tier list, featuring darkseid.

  • @salmanpromon9050
    @salmanpromon9050 4 місяці тому

    Super Durability, Super Speed, Space Survival, Strategy, Super Sense, Heat Vision, Strategic mind, Freeze breath, Super fast thinking, Power level > Thragg

  • @SoldierBoy-bs9cu
    @SoldierBoy-bs9cu 4 місяці тому

    What people fail to understand is that the invisible universe is new, it hasnt been around as long as the DC universe where most of its characters achieved cosmic level powers in their so-called different versions and universes. Supes is OP. My point is time will tell, it all depends on what crazy idea and logic kirkman can come up with.

  • @vaguestvestige
    @vaguestvestige 4 місяці тому

    I think people forget that without Earth's sun, Kryptonians aren't what we're used to seeing. Also thragg is still a younger Viltrimite but he's an absolute unit. After another 1000 years, he might be..................INVINCIBLE. 😂IYKYK

  • @tonycamacho3015
    @tonycamacho3015 4 місяці тому

    General Zod better pray they fight under a yellow Sun

    • @dragonmagic9872
      @dragonmagic9872 Місяць тому

      If they fight under a red sun, effortless win for Thragg cause under a red sun Zod is a mere mortal, if they fight under a yellow sun, easy win for Zod, and if they fight under a blue sun, Zod crushes Thragg without trying.

  • @TheDjbenton
    @TheDjbenton 5 місяців тому +1

    Hawkman (DCEU) vs Namor (MCU)

  • @Ntimidation
    @Ntimidation 5 місяців тому

    Old King Thanos vs Onslaught

  • @CorruptDemocratsJ6
    @CorruptDemocratsJ6 5 місяців тому +2

    Top Tier Kryptonians are above nearly all others, especially their copycat counterparts that have come far after. It's a shame when Supes/Kryptonians are written poorly and underwhelmingly. It takes Dr. Manhattan/Living Tribunal style characters to top Supes/Zod/Superboy Prime, etc. Also, If thragg fought a top tier Kryptonian inside a sun, it would go even more poorly for The Ultimate Viltrumite. A being already at a disadvantage, being drained/melted by the sun while his already superior opponent continually heals and powers up the entire time.

  • @Salty.Peasants
    @Salty.Peasants 4 місяці тому

    The Guyver vs Ironman or The Guyver vs Blue Beetle. Also, include Guyver Gigantic Exceed. 😌

  • @delanongray7161
    @delanongray7161 4 місяці тому +1

    Of course Thragg dont stand a chance. If Thragg and Zod fought on the surface of the sun like when Thragg fought Mark, Zod's Kryptonian cells would absorb all of that. Viltrumites do not stand a chance against Kryptonians.

  • @mikey8086
    @mikey8086 5 місяців тому +1

    Agree. Zod head and shoulders above for sure. The invisible and dragon ball series is just trying to outdue marvel and dc. but marvel and dc have many more decades of material for their characters and versions.

  • @dsa3017
    @dsa3017 4 місяці тому

    you didnt mention that zod's laser beam can cut thrag in half

  • @Doom_Dusty
    @Doom_Dusty 2 місяці тому

    General Zod & Doomsday are the most powerful and most dangerous and, best Kryptonians you have ever seen.

  • @YouShouldntBeDancing
    @YouShouldntBeDancing 5 місяців тому

    The Spirit vs The Phantom!

  • @eastcoastpaper3862
    @eastcoastpaper3862 4 місяці тому

    you have decades and dozens of writers for dc, give the illustrators time, im sure better feats to come

  • @slifer135
    @slifer135 4 місяці тому

    The argument of Viltrumites vs Kryptonians is stupid just based on the last feat of Thragg vs Invincible in the Sun. They literally burned up in it, and no Kryptonian burns in a sun. They can literally LIVE in the sun and never be harmed because it's there "Plant" bodies life source lol.

  • @Johnathoncardenas7
    @Johnathoncardenas7 5 місяців тому

    Superman & Zod vs Shazam & Black Adam

  • @ogorosanekwu974
    @ogorosanekwu974 4 місяці тому

    I don't understand why you are censoring these comics. I believe everything the comics entails is the reason we are here. Anyone whose delicate sensibilities can be offended by those scenes shouldn't be here in the first place. You are describing strength, yet you censor it.

  • @alexanderthegreat.9920
    @alexanderthegreat.9920 4 місяці тому +1

    WITHOUT THE SUN ☀️ ZOD DONT STAND A CHANCE AGAINST THRAGG.

    • @dragonmagic9872
      @dragonmagic9872 Місяць тому

      What does that have to do with who's stronger? That's like taking away all of batman's armor and gadgets and throwing him in a fight against superman.

  • @duddly02
    @duddly02 4 місяці тому

    Given this is in the Image comics universe would love to see cross over with spawn, because spawn is stronger