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So I have been using mine for the past few months and it had been a life saver. I got used to the electronic reverse switch so it’s second nature now. The only negative is that other than the Chuck and quick connect drill bits don’t stay in the tool and you have to pull them out manually from the work piece. Really a pain in the ass.
Two things - 1- I never place tools directly on a finished surface just in case of the issue you demonstrated. I have made it a practice to use cardboard, towels, drop cloths, or even instruction sheets under my tools. Since the advent of the belt hook, this practice became necessary. 2 - I plan to buy this tool and 3D print a wing or even just build one! Great video!
I haven't read the comments yet but my solution for the tool falling over was to use a 6 amp battery that has a wider base. Great video. Never mind on my solution. I just saw it tip forward now, lol.
Picked one of these up in store today and loved the feel and features of it. Was able to place the attachments on and remove them in store, compared to the Bosch multi head drill I own the process was a lot smoother and felt like it was far better designed. Absolutely loved the offset 1/4 in head. Came back to watch some reviews and just came across your video, I didn't even realise it in store but your point about the electric forward and reverse switch on top is such a disappointing deal breaker for me! Not only for the inconvenience of it, but because an electric push button switch is going to fail far sooner than a mechanical! The base I could have lived with or even modified, the switching not so much. Thanks for the review, appreciate it!
I've been in the woodworking business for 40 years. I just had to install four sets of kitchen for a multi-family. I found this drill kitand the Bessie face frame clamps I bought with the drill was the best tool investment I've made in the last 20 years. I've got to watch your video and see what your deal breaker is , I think this is one of the best design tools I've ever used. probably that micro switch won't last 20 years like a lot of the cordless Makita tools I still have that are 25 and even 30 years old. But all in all I'd say it's a fantastic tool if you're doing installs saves a lot of time switching bits of screwing around and getting into a corner has never been so easy 👍
conantdog that’s awesome glad you’re loving the new drill! I enjoy using it in my garage/shop. For instals I prefer the Makita Subcompact set and the Festool CSX.
55 years of using drills, hell I used to run screws with a brace &/or Yankee. Got one of these yesterday and 1- at 67 I appreciate a light tool, 2- had no problem running the reverse one handed, 3- great to get back to the D style.
For those of you guys watching right now: there is a solution to the stability problem, its called a Stability Stand Bracket for Milwaukee M12 FUEL Installation Drill Driver ...FYI.👍🏻
@@spaguru Its a 3D printed addon, you're best bet is to google "Stability Stand Bracket for Milwaukee M12 FUEL Installation Drill Driver" and you'll find a few varying options.
Are you kiding me? Deal breaker is it tips over? The first thing ever taught to me about finish work is cover the area your working on so your tools wont hurt things and NEVER - EVER - IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, STAND YOUR DRILL UP, it is always laid down, so it will not fall or get knocked over. If I found someone on any of my jobs with thier drill standing up with a bit in it, on open finished floor, counter tops, inside a cabinet, etc, they'd get one chance to learn, or be writen up. I thank you for the tool review ✌️
I actually like the forward and backwards button, I think it’s great and simple, a pretty neat feature. I’ve always lay my drills/power tools sideways or for this too my favorite is it attached with a clip to your pocket or belt. I prefer it with the tiny m12 battery than the bigger heavier battery, in my opinion I think it’s a great tool.
i'm left handed and i dont understand this comment. The reverse button is not "just right the trigger", it's both sides.. and it has never been an issue. Left or right handed, everyone needs to press it from both sides.
Thanks for the review! Here’s mine: So I’ve bought one and have been using it for 2 weeks as a cabinet guy. It’s a great tool with some serious flaws. The reverse/forward button is in such an awkward spot. Plus it does this strange thing. If you have it in fwd, set it down and pick it up a few min later and then attempt to change the direction it only activates the feature and then you have to press it again. I know that’s confusing. It’s also confusing in real life. But ultimately it’s a very good tool. I use it for its attachments and even as my driver for using my hole saws. But it’s not my daily driver. Another plus is that it has opened up the m12 world to me. And the m12 oscillating tool is unbelievably good. Thanks for the review!
I love the way the fwd/reverse controls are laid out on this tool. I'm constantly nudging the directional push button on my cordless drills with the web of my hand when I least desire to, so this is a welcome improvement as far as I'm concerned. As far as not being "stable" when stood upright, well...I never stand my cordless tools upright on surfaces I care about anyway, so that is definitely not an issue for me.
Was looking for someone to say that about the direction switch... I didn’t know this had the direction switch on the top and personally I love it. I’m especially bad about bumping my direction switch on my M12 driver while I’m using it for some reason, happens all the time, and this will fix that. Yes, I know, I’m probably holding it wrong lol.
I've heard people say that one good reason to use a 12 volt tool is because they don't stand up. if you have a drill bit in a 12-volt tool and you brush it it's going to fall over and possibly ruin something so laying them down maybe a better practice anyways, as long as you don't lay it on the side with the belt hook
I love the push button forward reverse I am left handed and I usually put the drill in reverse. The lock also keeps the drill from running when it is stored
Glad you are enjoying the drill David:). Thanks for pointing out the lock button feature- I may or may not have figured that out shortly after I released this review:(
A foot or a stand that attaches to the magnet tray. And that the "foot" attachment itself has the same style magnet tray so you don't loose that "perk"
I use it for security camera maintenance work on lifts. Works out great without cracking acrylic domes with too much power. Attaching a lanyard strap on the guard part so it doesn’t fall and hurt anyone. The weight balance isn’t stupid for when I need both hands free and let it hang. No place to set it down when I’m 40 feet up in a plastic tub. The bubble button can be reached with the thumb of my hand holding it. If I couldn’t reach it and had to use another hand it would be unbearable.
That's like exactly what I need it for but my dad whos been a network tech for 20 years keeps telling it aint worth it, hes just old i aint listening to him lmao
@@redneckcommie Mint be the extra heads distracting. I’m deep into hobby woodworking and find the weird head attachments useful there. I only use the impact lock-in connector at work and do switch to my other M12 drill and driver some weeks. It’s a 170 dollar toy ;)
I agree with both of your criticisms. Both are things I could live with, but both are bad design work. That said, tipping forward with the XC batteries is completely unacceptable, glad I haven’t bought one yet. Love my M12 tools, and this one has great promise, but I think I’ll wait for Gen 2
I've learned too lay the drill down all the time. No matter how stable it is standing up it inevitably gets knocked over at some point. Usually it winds up dropping on the floor. The festool is the premium installation drill, but the battery platform isn't worth the premium price. I usually just carry a couple m12 drills on me with different bits depending on what I'm doing.
I have the Milwaukee and Festool and the Festool never comes out of the box anymore.. I love the milwaukee and I have no problem with the forward and reverse. I do think the Festool has more power.
Love that the tool heads are interchangable but hate where they put the forward / reverse button. should have left it where ALL the other drivers have it!!
Regarding the last point about tipping, I feel like that's just begging for a 3D printed accessory. It would be pretty easy to design and print something that gives it a wider base without adding much bulk.
I have one of these and to be honest his 2 deal breaker gripes are non issues for me, the forward reverse button doesn't cause me any heartburn, the tipping over doesn't both me either because I always lay my drivers down in their side so I don't have to worry about it falling over and damaging the surface or breaking a bit.
@@shanew7361 Not really, the only thing I wish was different is that the chuck on the offset head had a lock so when you use it while drilling a hole it would stay in the chuck instead of staying in whatever you are drilling into. That's a good price, I paid $239 at Home Depot a year ago when they were first released. I hope you enjoy it
You don’t want to stand any tools up on finished floors or cabinets. You want to have a piece of plywood to lay down and lay your tool on. Or just lay the tool on the pack up bag.
The switch on top is better. I have the M12 Fuel Hammer Drill and Driver. I frequently hit the forward/reverse slide switch with my palm near the base of my index finger. Maybe my hands are just big for the M12 platform, but I think the slide switch should be placed a bit higher. Since it's not, having the button on the top is a good feature.
That big chunk in front of the handle. What is it for? Seems designed to get in the way in confined spaces. Just to hold bits? Better places to put them. Why not try the Bosch? Same attachments, slightly more power, no bit sticking down in front of the handle, and sliding fwd/rev that you like. Doesn't stand up, so it will not fall over. You lay it on its side. (Simples.) If you are working on fine finished surfaces you should be using a tool mat anyway. 'Milwaukee, widen the base'. Why don't you? Better yet, add suction cups.
Glad I watched this before purchase. F/R button on top is 100% no go. Like you said, I'm constantly changing directions and anything different would be so awkward. Moving on from this one, but thanks
Thank you for the one of the best reviews I've seen for this tool! I decided to buy one today and used it up in my attic to drill and install some construction lag screws in a very tight space. Worked great, mostly, I just wish the clearance using the right angle attachment could be less. But for a versatile tool, I'm good with that. I came to comment on the tippyness aspect -- it's no problem for me as I will always lay the drill flat. Look, I'm a clumsy DIYer with a couple cordless ryobi cordless drills that are bottom heavy with their batteries. And while I do like to set down those drills in an upright position for the easy grab, I admit that that on more than one occasion I've managed to knock over the ryobi drill and break the bit (a thin one, say 3/32). My corded drills lay flat, I'm good with flat. oh, and the forward/reverse/lock button, I couldn't figure that out in the store but it's just one button. Works for me just fine -- only thing is you need eyes on it to see the direction as opposed to the traditional tactile thing. Keep up the reviews Funny Carpenter and peace from the US.
Thanks for the review. I agree with you. The forward reverse switch is most certainly a deal breaker for me. They keep making these drill/drivers smaller, lighter, and more powerful. All great improvements but the trade off seams the lowest clutch setting is too powerful now for delicate driving. My biggest need is a very low clutch for driving lots of delicate screws. Like a #4 x1/2" piano screw into soft materials. With the clutch in the lowest setting can you pinch it and engage the clutch?
I’ve had the forward/reverse on my m12 fuel hammer drill get pushed in accidentally more in 2 months than 6 years on my DeWalt 20v. This direction button is all about ultimate clearance. As far as standing it up, I learned to always set a drill/driver down on its side after doing a summer with an electrician. It’s just asking for material/project or tool damage.
Nice review. Came across it just AFTER I’ve ordered my drill 🙄. Anyway I’m thinking I won’t find the ‘deal breaker’ to be that, as I’ve never been able to leave my other M12 drills upright and besides, wouldnt/shouldn’t do it even if I could. They always hang off the (excellent) clip or lay flat. Much safer practice for all tools if I’m working on vulnerable surfaces. I’m more concerned about the forward reverse switch but from other reviews it sounds like if you don’t have an immediate strop and send it back then you soon adapt. Besides this won’t be my main driver, but specialist one for awkward spaces. We shall see. But thanks for the clear concise review and lack of unboxing crap! Subscribed!
Definitely try it out in store and see what you think. I tried to deal with it for a while but couldn't do it. I gave it to my Dad haven't heard back yet though.
Great review - the tip-over thing could easily be solved if you could pair the larger footprint battery with a wider front foot that matches the height and could be kinda L-shaped and attach from the side where you're not using the belt hook? If you're handy with a 3D printer that's an easy fix, but the customer shouldn't have to do that. It would be good if something like that was included in the kit as it would be a very cheap attachment if it was properly tooled up.
Really good review, I’m considering this tool and this has given me a realistic idea of what to expect. In your opinion, is this tool useful for home diy or is it overkill and better suited for professional use?
Tremendous question! Going to expand on this in an upcoming video, but basically if u have other m12 stuff than this drill makes sense as an all round tool for typical DIY. It can pretty much do everything fairly well. If I was starting out a cordless tool collection for just home DIY. I would buy Makita 18v stuff. Their blowers, hedge trimmers trimmers, etc are awesome! My first drill would be the Subcompact drill set with the drill and Impactor. I own that set now and it’s first class. I do own and love some M12 tools, but if I’m choosing only one platform it’s Makita 18v all day long.
I’m already established with the hitachi 18v line and just getting into the m12 and m18 line as a way to supplement my Hitachi 18v tools. I do like the Makita line, but Milwaukee was the only possible choice for me because I really wanted the m18 wet/dry vac. I also pick up the inflator, so the choice to go with milwaukee has been made. My next purchase is either the installation tool or the 5 piece m12 set that comes with a ratchet. Thanks for your opinion!
Got this drill 3 weeks ago, love everything about it BUT ... the forward reverse switch sucks ... its totally not intuitive .. i have the Bosch its great as well but does not fit in the hand like the MW does. Also the Flexiclick has a locking hex holder on the right angle which helps with backing out drill bits as oppose to the magnetic holder on the MW. The forward reverse is a deal breaker for me.
The direction switch on my drill easily broke and the problem was chronic. It cost Milwaukee a lot of $ to fix/replace those switches. But...I agree the location is not what we’re used to
I guess I missed this in the review but after a few days of use I finally realized the bare tool AND the right angle both will directly accept a 1/4 hex bit, i.e. you won't need the jacobs or driver chuck when in a tight space.
The lack of the traditional forward/release button is 100% a deal breaker for me. The other features are great and I can deal with not being able to stand it up, but I will wait for the next revision with F/R button.
has this been confirmed by milwaukee that they will do this? if so I'd like to wait too, but using my 1/4" milwaukee impact driver to use my 4" holesaw to make a hole for my dryer vent took a while with it constantly bucking. So that 3/8 attachment and smooth drill feature would be great to add to my kit now, I'm sure I can live with the button as it overshadowed by my immediate need for a better solution daily.
@@fabiangomez357 - I haven't been keeping up with tool news so have no idea if Milkwaukee will implement a mechanical F/R/ button. I ended up with a Bosch brushless flexiclick. It worked well, has a traditional F/R button, and is more compact than the Installation driver.
I've learned to like the top switch, I have a habit on my normal drills and drivers of just slightly hitting the forward reverse button and putting it in neutral. Grrr
@@Mantis858585 - okay, that makes sense from that point of view. Inadvertent changes to the drive direction could cause damage to the work surface. Thanks for your input!
Re. the stability of the drill when it is standing, if you take a 4.0 or a 6.0 battery, then there in no issue. (Milwaukee should'nt sell the drill with 2.0 batteries, luckily it can be bought without batteries, then take a 6.0 Ah)
I am a DYI person so I may miss something , but I really don’t like those magnetic bits, they always seem of come out of the holder and fall on the floor or get stuck on the screw and pull out of the chuck. So I too really like the drill but I don’t understand why the offset chuck uses the magnetic bits while the normal 1/4” chuck uses the locking style. So you need to have two kinds of bits or use the locking style in the magnetic chuck which does not work well. I also don’t like the stability of the drill and the top mounted reverse. Other then that I too am a fan of this drill.
The Funny Carpenter I have looked at the locking collar and I don’t think it would add that much to the diameter of the offset. Plus having a bit come out in a tight quarters would be even more frustrating. For me I would gladly give up the small amount distance to securely hold the bit. It was a vary good review,. I have actually considered to see if I could hack this drill and put some small buttons in parallel with the reverse switch and add buttons down near the trigger on the magnetic bit holder frame where my finger could switch it . You pretty well matched my likes and dislikes. I have been remodeling my kitchen and used this drill a lot. I think there are more likes then dislike, but there are definite areas of improvements.
I'm sorry I can't afford Fastool I got The milwallee For the price and I have batteries already Let's all your thing about the bits can always put the longer Bit in the Milwaukee If I win the lottery then I'll think about getting the festool You keep up with your videos they're entertaining And knowledgeable See you later from Florida and Cheers With a beer
I always lay my tools down on a carpet square or two...where are my tools? - always on the square, can they possibly under any circumstances fall over with sharp bit in them - nope, they're laying down...we all work differently.
Curious, have you used the Bosch 12V tool? Wondering how the Milwaukee compares to it. BTW, the Bosch doesn't stand up at all and, the battery is a pain to remove.
Personally, I have zero concern. Bring a microfiber towel with you and lay the drill on it’s side on the towel. It’s not natural to stand a drill up. It is natural to lay it flat on its side. That’s what I have been doing for 25 years. Thanks.
@@TheFunnyCarpenter haha ahh you are actually quite funny 😅 I'm a lay downer too as usually when it gets stood up its kicked off the scaffold wereas when its lay down it tends to just get trodden on
Put this big battery in it and your golden man. Just like the 18v battery has a square base like a traditional drill battery… the m12 big battery has the square base and will weigh it down right. Not a deal breaker it’s a lightweight tool. Put a bottom heavy big battery in it and your good to go
Put this big battery in it and your golden man. Just like the 18v battery has a square base like a traditional drill battery… the m12 big battery has the square base and will weigh it down right. Not a deal breaker it’s a lightweight tool. Put a bottom heavy big battery in it and your good to go
buy the Festool or if it is to expensive for you the brushless Bosch. This 12V driver is far from being compact or light. Seriously its close as heavy as some low Tier 18V
Austin Galloway that Bosch flexiclick looks sweet. I might have to snag one to review! The Festool csx lacks any power whatsoever, that being said it is one of my favourite tools.
Even when I do finish work, I always lay my tools flat, clip up. Sure I’m increasing my contact with the material, but a tool can’t fall and damage something when it’s already laying down!
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So I have been using mine for the past few months and it had been a life saver. I got used to the electronic reverse switch so it’s second nature now. The only negative is that other than the Chuck and quick connect drill bits don’t stay in the tool and you have to pull them out manually from the work piece. Really a pain in the ass.
This guy sounds like the Bob Ross of tools very calming
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Two things - 1- I never place tools directly on a finished surface just in case of the issue you demonstrated. I have made it a practice to use cardboard, towels, drop cloths, or even instruction sheets under my tools. Since the advent of the belt hook, this practice became necessary.
2 - I plan to buy this tool and 3D print a wing or even just build one!
Great video!
I've got a scrap 1/2" thick, 12x12" foam pad i picked up somewhere. I lay down my tools on that.
Intuitive, industry specific and practical review. Like Niki Lauda improving Ferrari
I haven't read the comments yet but my solution for the tool falling over was to use a 6 amp battery that has a wider base. Great video. Never mind on my solution. I just saw it tip forward now, lol.
Best drill on the market, I have the festool drill and I always go for the Milwaukee !! I’ve been doing custom cabinets for over 34 years.
That’s good to hear, I’m glad you like it!
Picked one of these up in store today and loved the feel and features of it. Was able to place the attachments on and remove them in store, compared to the Bosch multi head drill I own the process was a lot smoother and felt like it was far better designed. Absolutely loved the offset 1/4 in head. Came back to watch some reviews and just came across your video, I didn't even realise it in store but your point about the electric forward and reverse switch on top is such a disappointing deal breaker for me! Not only for the inconvenience of it, but because an electric push button switch is going to fail far sooner than a mechanical! The base I could have lived with or even modified, the switching not so much. Thanks for the review, appreciate it!
I like your calm voice. I dont know why, but it's soothing :-D Btw, amazing review on the Drill. Thank you for sharing.
I've been in the woodworking business for 40 years.
I just had to install four sets of kitchen for a multi-family.
I found this drill kitand the Bessie face frame clamps I bought with the drill was the best tool investment I've made in the last 20 years.
I've got to watch your video and see what your deal breaker is , I think this is one of the best design tools I've ever used. probably that micro switch won't last 20 years like a lot of the cordless Makita tools I still have that are 25 and even 30 years old.
But all in all I'd say it's a fantastic tool if you're doing installs saves a lot of time switching bits of screwing around and getting into a corner has never been so easy 👍
conantdog that’s awesome glad you’re loving the new drill! I enjoy using it in my garage/shop. For instals I prefer the Makita Subcompact set and the Festool CSX.
That’d be the perfect gift for Father’s Day, birthday, or Christmas.
55 years of using drills, hell I used to run screws with a brace &/or Yankee. Got one of these yesterday and 1- at 67 I appreciate a light tool, 2- had no problem running the reverse one handed, 3- great to get back to the D style.
This is a really good review. Covers everything I need to know. Thanks. And subscribed.
Thanks EJ glad it was helpful:)
Ditto
For those of you guys watching right now: there is a solution to the stability problem, its called a Stability Stand Bracket for Milwaukee M12 FUEL Installation Drill Driver ...FYI.👍🏻
Part number?
@@spaguru Its a 3D printed addon, you're best bet is to google "Stability Stand Bracket for Milwaukee M12 FUEL Installation Drill Driver" and you'll find a few varying options.
How about just use the included belt clip?
Because if you use the belt clip you don't set it down and don't have to play a balancing act for it to stand up right... cuz its hanging on your hip.
Are you kiding me? Deal breaker is it tips over?
The first thing ever taught to me about finish work is cover the area your working on so your tools wont hurt things and NEVER - EVER - IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, STAND YOUR DRILL UP, it is always laid down, so it will not fall or get knocked over.
If I found someone on any of my jobs with thier drill standing up with a bit in it, on open finished floor, counter tops, inside a cabinet, etc, they'd get one chance to learn, or be writen up.
I thank you for the tool review ✌️
Thank you for the informative review! It seems to be begging for a packout case.
Great review! Thank you! Honestly many things I hadn't thought of... I'm still going to have to go with this.
Hope you enjoy it!
How do you like it still? I just ordered one and reading comments about the lack of trigger switch directions button.
I actually like the forward and backwards button, I think it’s great and simple, a pretty neat feature. I’ve always lay my drills/power tools sideways or for this too my favorite is it attached with a clip to your pocket or belt. I prefer it with the tiny m12 battery than the bigger heavier battery, in my opinion I think it’s a great tool.
I like the Deal Breaker section....
The reverse button just right the trigger is a real pain in tha ass for left handed. The button on the top is an improvement for left handed.
i'm left handed and i dont understand this comment. The reverse button is not "just right the trigger", it's both sides.. and it has never been an issue. Left or right handed, everyone needs to press it from both sides.
Thanks for the review! Here’s mine:
So I’ve bought one and have been using it for 2 weeks as a cabinet guy.
It’s a great tool with some serious flaws.
The reverse/forward button is in such an awkward spot. Plus it does this strange thing. If you have it in fwd, set it down and pick it up a few min later and then attempt to change the direction it only activates the feature and then you have to press it again. I know that’s confusing. It’s also confusing in real life.
But ultimately it’s a very good tool. I use it for its attachments and even as my driver for using my hole saws. But it’s not my daily driver.
Another plus is that it has opened up the m12 world to me. And the m12 oscillating tool is unbelievably good.
Thanks for the review!
Thanks for the info, I definitely agree with your assessment.
I love the way the fwd/reverse controls are laid out on this tool. I'm constantly nudging the directional push button on my cordless drills with the web of my hand when I least desire to, so this is a welcome improvement as far as I'm concerned. As far as not being "stable" when stood upright, well...I never stand my cordless tools upright on surfaces I care about anyway, so that is definitely not an issue for me.
chuckschilling that’s awesome Chuck, glad you’re loving the drill!
Was looking for someone to say that about the direction switch... I didn’t know this had the direction switch on the top and personally I love it. I’m especially bad about bumping my direction switch on my M12 driver while I’m using it for some reason, happens all the time, and this will fix that. Yes, I know, I’m probably holding it wrong lol.
I've heard people say that one good reason to use a 12 volt tool is because they don't stand up. if you have a drill bit in a 12-volt tool and you brush it it's going to fall over and possibly ruin something so laying them down maybe a better practice anyways, as long as you don't lay it on the side with the belt hook
I love the push button forward reverse I am left handed and I usually put the drill in reverse. The lock also keeps the drill from running when it is stored
Glad you are enjoying the drill David:). Thanks for pointing out the lock button feature- I may or may not have figured that out shortly after I released this review:(
A foot or a stand that attaches to the magnet tray. And that the "foot" attachment itself has the same style magnet tray so you don't loose that "perk"
Just to clarify one thing. It has 300 INCH lbs of torque. Which converts to 25 ft-lb of torque.
Hard rule against standing drills up.
I'm with you. I lay all tools down in the fall position because you WILL knock them over.
I lay them on the floor if I can, I won’t drop my drill from anywhere to get it shattered
You can probably 3d print something that screws into the belt holders on both sides to make it more stable.
I use it for security camera maintenance work on lifts. Works out great without cracking acrylic domes with too much power. Attaching a lanyard strap on the guard part so it doesn’t fall and hurt anyone. The weight balance isn’t stupid for when I need both hands free and let it hang. No place to set it down when I’m 40 feet up in a plastic tub. The bubble button can be reached with the thumb of my hand holding it. If I couldn’t reach it and had to use another hand it would be unbearable.
That's like exactly what I need it for but my dad whos been a network tech for 20 years keeps telling it aint worth it, hes just old i aint listening to him lmao
@@redneckcommie Mint be the extra heads distracting. I’m deep into hobby woodworking and find the weird head attachments useful there. I only use the impact lock-in connector at work and do switch to my other M12 drill and driver some weeks. It’s a 170 dollar toy ;)
I agree with both of your criticisms. Both are things I could live with, but both are bad design work. That said, tipping forward with the XC batteries is completely unacceptable, glad I haven’t bought one yet. Love my M12 tools, and this one has great promise, but I think I’ll wait for Gen 2
Thanks for reviewing this drill. It’s been on my radar for a while now. I’m on my way to KMS now to purchase!!
Jason Doddridge enjoy!
How do you like it?
When using a drill in my left hand I am always bumping the reverse switch with my thumb knuckle. The top mounted switch looks like a good idea.
I've learned too lay the drill down all the time. No matter how stable it is standing up it inevitably gets knocked over at some point. Usually it winds up dropping on the floor. The festool is the premium installation drill, but the battery platform isn't worth the premium price. I usually just carry a couple m12 drills on me with different bits depending on what I'm doing.
I’m looking at this for my RC race cars. The negatives will not bother me. Seems like a winner.
I have the Milwaukee and Festool and the Festool never comes out of the box anymore.. I love the milwaukee and I have no problem with the forward and reverse. I do think the Festool has more power.
Love that the tool heads are interchangable but hate where they put the forward / reverse button. should have left it where ALL the other drivers have it!!
Regarding the last point about tipping, I feel like that's just begging for a 3D printed accessory. It would be pretty easy to design and print something that gives it a wider base without adding much bulk.
I have one of these and to be honest his 2 deal breaker gripes are non issues for me, the forward reverse button doesn't cause me any heartburn, the tipping over doesn't both me either because I always lay my drivers down in their side so I don't have to worry about it falling over and damaging the surface or breaking a bit.
Glad to hear you're enjoying the drill.
How do you like your drill so far?
@@shanew7361 It's awesome, I use it all the time
@@kevinboothe9991 I just ordered one from Amazon for $175. Any issues with the buttons on top instead of switch at trigger?
@@shanew7361 Not really, the only thing I wish was different is that the chuck on the offset head had a lock so when you use it while drilling a hole it would stay in the chuck instead of staying in whatever you are drilling into. That's a good price, I paid $239 at Home Depot a year ago when they were first released. I hope you enjoy it
You don’t want to stand any tools up on finished floors or cabinets. You want to have a piece of plywood to lay down and lay your tool on. Or just lay the tool on the pack up bag.
The switch on top is better. I have the M12 Fuel Hammer Drill and Driver. I frequently hit the forward/reverse slide switch with my palm near the base of my index finger. Maybe my hands are just big for the M12 platform, but I think the slide switch should be placed a bit higher. Since it's not, having the button on the top is a good feature.
That big chunk in front of the handle. What is it for? Seems designed to get in the way in confined spaces. Just to hold bits? Better places to put them.
Why not try the Bosch? Same attachments, slightly more power, no bit sticking down in front of the handle, and sliding fwd/rev that you like. Doesn't stand up, so it will not fall over. You lay it on its side. (Simples.) If you are working on fine finished surfaces you should be using a tool mat anyway.
'Milwaukee, widen the base'. Why don't you? Better yet, add suction cups.
Glad I watched this before purchase. F/R button on top is 100% no go. Like you said, I'm constantly changing directions and anything different would be so awkward. Moving on from this one, but thanks
Thank you for the one of the best reviews I've seen for this tool! I decided to buy one today and used it up in my attic to drill and install some construction lag screws in a very tight space. Worked great, mostly, I just wish the clearance using the right angle attachment could be less. But for a versatile tool, I'm good with that. I came to comment on the tippyness aspect -- it's no problem for me as I will always lay the drill flat. Look, I'm a clumsy DIYer with a couple cordless ryobi cordless drills that are bottom heavy with their batteries. And while I do like to set down those drills in an upright position for the easy grab, I admit that that on more than one occasion I've managed to knock over the ryobi drill and break the bit (a thin one, say 3/32). My corded drills lay flat, I'm good with flat. oh, and the forward/reverse/lock button, I couldn't figure that out in the store but it's just one button. Works for me just fine -- only thing is you need eyes on it to see the direction as opposed to the traditional tactile thing. Keep up the reviews Funny Carpenter and peace from the US.
Glad you said that about holesaws falling out. I thought it was just me!
It always happens in chucked drills, the bigger the hole saw the worse it happens, it's because of the weight and inertia on startup
Great video....all points taken....i'm only pissed about the xtra steps to forward and reverse...everything else its acceptable for this great tool!
I think is just his personal opinion. THE DRILL IS AWESOME! just the way it is.
indeed, but still not as good as the Festool CXS....in my personal opinion:)
Good review. I just got one. Very happy so far. Yes it is tipsy and the f/r switch location sucks.
How do you like it still? Just ordered one.
The Bob Ross of carpentry
I lay tools down on the side anyways. This is perfect for me! Awesome!
Thanks for the review. I agree with you. The forward reverse switch is most certainly a deal breaker for me.
They keep making these drill/drivers smaller, lighter, and more powerful. All great improvements but the trade off seams the lowest clutch setting is too powerful now for delicate driving. My biggest need is a very low clutch for driving lots of delicate screws. Like a #4 x1/2" piano screw into soft materials. With the clutch in the lowest setting can you pinch it and engage the clutch?
I’ve had the forward/reverse on my m12 fuel hammer drill get pushed in accidentally more in 2 months than 6 years on my DeWalt 20v. This direction button is all about ultimate clearance.
As far as standing it up, I learned to always set a drill/driver down on its side after doing a summer with an electrician. It’s just asking for material/project or tool damage.
Nice review. Came across it just AFTER I’ve ordered my drill 🙄. Anyway I’m thinking I won’t find the ‘deal breaker’ to be that, as I’ve never been able to leave my other M12 drills upright and besides, wouldnt/shouldn’t do it even if I could. They always hang off the (excellent) clip or lay flat. Much safer practice for all tools if I’m working on vulnerable surfaces. I’m more concerned about the forward reverse switch but from other reviews it sounds like if you don’t have an immediate strop and send it back then you soon adapt. Besides this won’t be my main driver, but specialist one for awkward spaces. We shall see. But thanks for the clear concise review and lack of unboxing crap! Subscribed!
Lol those unboxing videos are terrible. I’m still liking the drill I have it sitting on my work bench with all the attachments out.
I Use the 4.0 battery instead of the 2.0
The boarding deal breaker for me is the top of tool direction change. I'll have to try it out in store to see if its a big enough deal. 🤔
Definitely try it out in store and see what you think. I tried to deal with it for a while but couldn't do it. I gave it to my Dad haven't heard back yet though.
Great review - the tip-over thing could easily be solved if you could pair the larger footprint battery with a wider front foot that matches the height and could be kinda L-shaped and attach from the side where you're not using the belt hook? If you're handy with a 3D printer that's an easy fix, but the customer shouldn't have to do that. It would be good if something like that was included in the kit as it would be a very cheap attachment if it was properly tooled up.
I need one of these!
Really good review, I’m considering this tool and this has given me a realistic idea of what to expect. In your opinion, is this tool useful for home diy or is it overkill and better suited for professional use?
Tremendous question! Going to expand on this in an upcoming video, but basically if u have other m12 stuff than this drill makes sense as an all round tool for typical DIY. It can pretty much do everything fairly well. If I was starting out a cordless tool collection for just home DIY. I would buy Makita 18v stuff. Their blowers, hedge trimmers trimmers, etc are awesome! My first drill would be the Subcompact drill set with the drill and Impactor. I own that set now and it’s first class. I do own and love some M12 tools, but if I’m choosing only one platform it’s Makita 18v all day long.
I’m already established with the hitachi 18v line and just getting into the m12 and m18 line as a way to supplement my Hitachi 18v tools. I do like the Makita line, but Milwaukee was the only possible choice for me because I really wanted the m18 wet/dry vac. I also pick up the inflator, so the choice to go with milwaukee has been made.
My next purchase is either the installation tool or the 5 piece m12 set that comes with a ratchet. Thanks for your opinion!
avega2792 good luck man! Always grab the one that will improve your situation in life the most:)
Home use, bought it for my wife and I may get one for small job.
Got this drill 3 weeks ago, love everything about it BUT ... the forward reverse switch sucks ... its totally not intuitive .. i have the Bosch its great as well but does not fit in the hand like the MW does. Also the Flexiclick has a locking hex holder on the right angle which helps with backing out drill bits as oppose to the magnetic holder on the MW. The forward reverse is a deal breaker for me.
Agreed!
I love the design.
The belt clip on it voids the need to set it down if you don't want to damage a surface.
Great video! Helped me decide what to get
The direction switch on my drill easily broke and the problem was chronic. It cost Milwaukee a lot of $ to fix/replace those switches. But...I agree the location is not what we’re used to
I guess I missed this in the review but after a few days of use I finally realized the bare tool AND the right angle both will directly accept a 1/4 hex bit, i.e. you won't need the jacobs or driver chuck when in a tight space.
Dude you’re a trim carpenter who uses a paddle bit to drill a hole in cabinets not a forester bit?
The lack of the traditional forward/release button is 100% a deal breaker for me. The other features are great and I can deal with not being able to stand it up, but I will wait for the next revision with F/R button.
has this been confirmed by milwaukee that they will do this? if so I'd like to wait too, but using my 1/4" milwaukee impact driver to use my 4" holesaw to make a hole for my dryer vent took a while with it constantly bucking. So that 3/8 attachment and smooth drill feature would be great to add to my kit now, I'm sure I can live with the button as it overshadowed by my immediate need for a better solution daily.
@@fabiangomez357 - I haven't been keeping up with tool news so have no idea if Milkwaukee will implement a mechanical F/R/ button. I ended up with a Bosch brushless flexiclick. It worked well, has a traditional F/R button, and is more compact than the Installation driver.
I've learned to like the top switch, I have a habit on my normal drills and drivers of just slightly hitting the forward reverse button and putting it in neutral. Grrr
@@Mantis858585 - okay, that makes sense from that point of view. Inadvertent changes to the drive direction could cause damage to the work surface. Thanks for your input!
Re. the stability of the drill when it is standing, if you take a 4.0 or a 6.0 battery, then there in no issue.
(Milwaukee should'nt sell the drill with 2.0 batteries, luckily it can be bought without batteries, then take a 6.0 Ah)
I am a DYI person so I may miss something , but I really don’t like those magnetic bits, they always seem of come out of the holder and fall on the floor or get stuck on the screw and pull out of the chuck. So I too really like the drill but I don’t understand why the offset chuck uses the magnetic bits while the normal 1/4” chuck uses the locking style. So you need to have two kinds of bits or use the locking style in the magnetic chuck which does not work well. I also don’t like the stability of the drill and the top mounted reverse. Other then that I too am a fan of this drill.
Great points! I think the chuck on the offset attachment is to allow for tight clearances.
The Funny Carpenter
I have looked at the locking collar and I don’t think it would add that much to the diameter of the offset. Plus having a bit come out in a tight quarters would be even more frustrating. For me I would gladly give up the small amount distance to securely hold the bit. It was a vary good review,. I have actually considered to see if I could hack this drill and put some small buttons in parallel with the reverse switch and add buttons down near the trigger on the magnetic bit holder frame where my finger could switch it . You pretty well matched my likes and dislikes. I have been remodeling my kitchen and used this drill a lot. I think there are more likes then dislike, but there are definite areas of improvements.
d h ya it’s definitely a nice powerful drill for the size, but the flaws are annoying.
Probably to attach the other heads to the end of it.
Just lay the drill down!🤷🏽♂️
Only thing missing is the impact driver attachment.
Love the flick test.
Thank you!
Forward and reverse switch is a complete deal breaker! Otherwise it would be a swwet drill. Could have more power too.
Preach!
Not for left handed
Actually looking at this for HVAC installation looks like it would be perfect with all of your drawbacks.
Why are replacing Festool?
thanks for the great review
The push button forward/reverse drives me bat crap crazy.
Hi, what happened with the promised comparison video with the Festool CSX?
It’s coming! Hopefully by the end of November. Thanks for asking.
Thanks man.
Can this be used as a die grinder? Thank you.
Does it have an impact drive feature?
Does it ????
I'm sorry I can't afford Fastool I got The milwallee For the price and I have batteries already Let's all your thing about the bits can always put the longer Bit in the Milwaukee If I win the lottery then I'll think about getting the festool You keep up with your videos they're entertaining And knowledgeable See you later from Florida and Cheers With a beer
thank goodness youtube allows me to speed up videos
Great video! How would you say the power compares to a traditional right angle drill?
I’d say 1-1/8” spade bit through 2x4, but you won’t be blown away at all by the power.
"Hi. I'd like to return my drill"
"Is there a reason why sir?"
"Yes. It falls over" 🤣🤣
Seriously I do get it tho.
Nice video. Thank you
I always lay my tools down on a carpet square or two...where are my tools? - always on the square, can they possibly under any circumstances fall over with sharp bit in them - nope, they're laying down...we all work differently.
Indeed, not a bad idea with the carpet square. If working in some highly sensitive areas I will use my kneeling pad.
Curious, have you used the Bosch 12V tool? Wondering how the Milwaukee compares to it. BTW, the Bosch doesn't stand up at all and, the battery is a pain to remove.
Gracias por la información. Saludos desde Chile.
Personally, I have zero concern. Bring a microfiber towel with you and lay the drill on it’s side on the towel. It’s not natural to stand a drill up. It is natural to lay it flat on its side. That’s what I have been doing for 25 years. Thanks.
Ahhh another lay down disciple:) I come from a long line of standers😂
@@TheFunnyCarpenter haha ahh you are actually quite funny 😅 I'm a lay downer too as usually when it gets stood up its kicked off the scaffold wereas when its lay down it tends to just get trodden on
Have you ever had a chance to use Snap On tools with a rocker(?) switch for forward and reverse? In my opinion a lot better than cross bar switch.
the lack of the normal forward /reverse switch was the dealbreaker for me
same!
It is not for left handed, it is an improvement
Been using drills for 30 years? What!? I thought he was 30.
Ya so the drill does have a battery that has the extended foot on the bottom and like Wala to tipping.....
No wala. Still tips.
Nice review. Yup.. its a deal breaker. Just wanted to buy till i watched this video.
Put this big battery in it and your golden man. Just like the 18v battery has a square base like a traditional drill battery… the m12 big battery has the square base and will weigh it down right. Not a deal breaker it’s a lightweight tool. Put a bottom heavy big battery in it and your good to go
great review. thanks
Any views in fdd vs fpd. Can't see how much use the metal locking collar is in the fdd and fpd has more torque. Are the attachments plastic in both?
Put this big battery in it and your golden man. Just like the 18v battery has a square base like a traditional drill battery… the m12 big battery has the square base and will weigh it down right. Not a deal breaker it’s a lightweight tool. Put a bottom heavy big battery in it and your good to go
Still want it
Are you in Canada?
buy the Festool or if it is to expensive for you the brushless Bosch.
This 12V driver is far from being compact or light. Seriously its close as heavy as some low Tier 18V
Thank you! I was leaning in the flexiclick direction, what do you think? Is festool worth it?
Austin Galloway that Bosch flexiclick looks sweet. I might have to snag one to review! The Festool csx lacks any power whatsoever, that being said it is one of my favourite tools.
You're like the Bob Ross of power tools and carpentry.
Even when I do finish work, I always lay my tools flat, clip up. Sure I’m increasing my contact with the material, but a tool can’t fall and damage something when it’s already laying down!
Great review!
In your opinion, does the CXS have enough torque?
It could definitely use more power allowing it to be more useful for drilling etc... but for fine work it’s great.
@@TheFunnyCarpenter I just watched the comparison. It sank that 3” screw no problem. Excellent honest real world reviews. Thanks.