Can I Have a Spiritual Experience if Taking Antidepressants? | Tommy Rosen
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- Опубліковано 14 гру 2024
- Recovery 2.0 founder, Tommy Rosen, 26 years in Recovery from Drug Addiction and Alcoholism, answers questions posed by members of the R20.com community. In this video, Tommy offers important insight about anti-depressants.
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Coming in years after this was posted. Found the video looking for the answer to this exact question. Thank you so much for this opinion.
I've been doing so so well taking care of my body, eatung well, having wonderful experiences during meditation, having so much motivation. I tried weening off of a medication over the last month and I just can't keep up to the same standard as before. I'm now starting to see it as loving to my body, helping it in ways it may need in the moment, to give me the wonderful experiences and motivation needed. I'm trying to see it more as a tool to help me take care of myself spiritually. Just as I could see technology as a tool to take care of myself spiritually; to be able to get information from people all over the world, to find fantastic guided meditations, healthy recipes, etc.
From the bottom of my heart, thank you ❤. I was scared to start antidepressants especially cause the new earth transition. TY for reminding me even on drugs, I have the power.
I thank you so much 😭 I started crying while watching this video, it was exactly the advise I needed. It's hard to decide whether or not to start taking medication, but thinking of it as an act of self love gave me a new perspective ♡
Same
2022! I needed this! Thank you🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Really helpful for sure. Made me cry hearing too.
Same! Thank you!🙏🫶
Very loving response. It makes me sad to see the misunderstanding about what "spirituality" is. We seem to consider it as something separate from life. We think it means having supernatural "experiences" or being a certain type of person, or live a certain "type" of life. In my perspective we are already spiritual beings. We are souls who have taken on a body to live out certain experiences. The spiritual journey goes on no matter who we are or what we do. Perhaps the only difference between a "spiritual" person and non-"spiritual" is that the spiritual person is simply aware of being on the journey...conscious of the fact that we ARE on a spiritual journey. Whatever circumstances life has put us in...no matter what..that IS our spiritual journey. The challenge is to live THAT particular life to the best we can. Try to live with love , kindness, compassion...for ourselves and others. Some would say, to live our dharma. It's not about trying to "be" someone else, or "do" remarkable things...but to live our own life as well as we can...be the best person we can be. I think if we can do that, we've won the "prize". Blessings !
What a beautiful comment. Blessings to you as well.
Ani Fosler Well said ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
That is just beautiful. Thank you so much💜
Thank you so much this was so helpful xx
Wow I love this this resonates so much!!!!
Thank you so much for this video! I've been struggling with my mental health since puberty. Since 2018 my spirituality has taken a beautiful development and with meditation, breathing techniques and weight lose I was feeling wonderful and loving myself for the first time in my life. With professional medical help I decided to see how it would be to start lowering dosage until I was completely off. I was doing well for a while but these past couple of months I've had problems with some symptoms... Today I was put on a low dose of a antidepressant, I didn't want to believe it, I've come so far, worked so hard and I came out of that doctors office thinking that I just put up a huge wall between myself and my spirituality. I realize that for now this is the path I need to be on to keep loving and enjoying life. Took take things slow cause everything eventually does fall into place. Again thank sooo much for this video. Today of all days it was exactly what I needed and proof that the DIVINE will always have a way of reaching us. Namaste💗
Im so glad I found this video. Its exactly what I needed. Id give this guy a big hug if I could. Very warm and encouraging. Ive battled depression and anxiety since i was 12, im 31 now and am trying Prozac for the first time. Ive been feeling nervous about it, and its hard to swallow my pride that im having to rely on a pill now.
Wow powerful ! No one knows you like God & yourself & no one has the right to tell you what can & can't do! We know ourselves like no one else! Thank you for educating the Peeps in sobriety of any kind my hats off to you!
Just found Your Chanel true Richard Rohr interview- Amazing! Thank You. I’m 15 over years on antidepressant, 4 years ago I had a spiritual experience. Which is still inside me and makes itself felt from time to time. I hope and believe that one day I will be free from all my addictions 🙏
Thank you. I really needed to hear this. I'm crying, because I struggle so much with taking medicine. And I don't know why. Don't know if its a cptsd thing where I refuse help, and feel weak for needing assistance outside myself. A past life wound, childhood trauma of being drugged..-.- I have been struggling so much with just getting through the day. I think I have ADHD and it's like I am aching for flow..and consistency. I love myself so much, and I am such a kind loving person..and it seems like the normal day to day things most people can do literally feel like pulling teeth..and I often fall asleep feeling like such a loser because I am so stresed and exhausted..from procastination, and not being able to focus on one thing.. I feel embarrassed to talk to people because I ramble..and I just. I just want to feel confident in myself.. and showcase that I am smart and capable..I feel silly getting so emotional..it's just really a hard discicssion for me. And most people share their opinions, which is fine we;re humans..but like the truth is it was nice to have someone compassionately say..it's ok. It's ok to try and take care of yourself..even if it may seem against all you know.
Thank you so much! 🩵🕊️🙏🏻🦋🤍
I needed this today, thank you ❤️
Great video and expression of compassion. I've been on and off antidepressants for many years and have contemplated the effect on my spirituality. Thank you!
Wow dude. You kick ass. Thank you for your kind and inspiring words
beautifully said. thank you
Tommy, I was glad to you today and I'm so thankful. As I am who I am, it is difficult for me to find people that I can flow with. Thank you for your message. You've helped me a lot. I have subscribed and look forward to hearing more from you.
Good on you Tommy. To each his own. We are all different. Too many times in the fellowship I have heard people with no professional nor personal experience dish out "advice" to people on medication and sometimes it has led to tragic consequences. I don't take anything but I am grateful for this, but I did work with people for years who needed them.
Incredible, thank you ❤💚
Thank you, grateful for your video. It helped me a lot last year!
Very well understood and very well said, Tommy.
Thank you for this! I needed to hear this
I really needed to hear this. THANK YOU!!!!!
Thank you so much Tommy.
Wow this is so beautiful! 😭😭
most anti depressants are not a big deal. they balance a person who needs them. They're not euphoric.
Yes. The bias against antidepressants that I find in some corners of the spiritual community, even in advanced teachers, is pretty alarming. Antidepressants help a lot of people.
Also, this anti-medicine bias - it can extend to the new technologies that treat depression, anxiety etc. with direct brain stimulation and so on. Which is ludicrous. It's like anything new is a dirty word, and only 'natural' stuff is allowed, whatever that means.
When you've been on them a long time you'll see how damaging they can be
You guys don't know what the hell you're talking about. Don't give advice, please.
Thank you so much for this video!
Thank you 👏👏
Thank you 😊
Thank you for this video. It resonated in the simple, insightful, and powerful way you explain things.
Well said.
Thankyou
omg thank you
Yes. I did
Tommy, much respect. If you could address this I’d be most grateful
To me, drugs are drugs. Illegal drugs as well as doctor prescribed drugs. When you remove the human bias and categorizing, they are all simply different molecules with varying effects on the human mind and body.
If you I nclude the common illegal drugs in your talk on this video along with the anti-depressants you speak of, you speak what I believe. The acceptance for the possible benefit and purposefulness of antidepressants you speak about, can also apply to any drugs that serve individuals life journey at different times of life. They may help some people for periods, and they may even be essential at times to get through something or into the next level of self-realization. And as you say, no one should ever judge or take from people that right to use them if they feel so called.
How do you feel you can speak this way about antidepressants when you speak as you do about common drugs of abuse? It can’t be because of health risks as many pharmaceuticals are more physically damaging than illegal drugs.
So what is it then? Why do you feel it’s spirtually right for sobriety to be colored by some classes of molecules, and not others?
Taking drugs is taking drugs. And if your on any type of drugs, your not sober by definition. This is how I see it
What do you think? Thank you brother
novakaya I agree with your assessment with a few caveats...
I advocate for meditation as a method for seeking higher consciousness. It has no downside, only upside. I advocate for dietary protocols that lead to balance, strength and ease in the mind-body system.
I also advocate for freedom and believe strongly that everyone should have the right to seek in the ways they see fit for them. I speak for consciousness and against ignorance. That is all. When I speak about marijuana I am speaking from my direct experience and making conclusions for myself and sharing those with others that they may consider what I am saying.
In many cases people smoke pot or take other drugs not out of necessity but out of simple desire to feel or see differently. This is fine for them as long as the prices they pay for that are acceptable. But this sets them apart from people who NEED to take anti-depressants. There are others who “self-medicate” with this drug or that because it helps them navigate.
In almost all those cases, diets are not optimal and holistic methods of healing have not been explored. I want to encourage all to explore all roads to Truth. And if for a time that includes exploration with some kind of potentially mind-expanding drug or plant, may they go there with eyes open and not be deluded into thinking this is the Truth! It will
Only ever be a potential glimpse and then each of us will have to do our work. For there is no avoiding that. As for Benzos, Cocaine, Meth, Heroin, I see no value in engaging with these drugs on a recreational basis, only pain awaits people who go there! Love you. Grateful for the question.
Man you cracked my heart open with your words and the love that motivated you to care enough to share your time and insight
Thank you my brother!
It’s obvious the goodness and truth that guides your walk in this world and your calling to help others. Thank you
I may contact you again somehow. I may need some help steering on my path brother. I’ve walked with medicines in great light joy and growth for several decades but some darkness threatens me now.
I love you and bless you Brother Tommy
Matthew