Meet The Most Dangerous Man In Europe
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So this guy is literally a movie character in the flesh. You couldn't write a better story of a supervillain playboy.
The funny thing is: Most of it seems to be fiction. Miklas (the Austrian chancellor Skorzeny and his troops captured) was probably never in any real danger of being executed, Skorenzy just claimed to be his saviour after the war, to shed a better light on himself. Operation Oak was neither planned by him nor was he important for it's execution. He nearly ruined the entire thing twice, once because Mussolini's guards saw him when he was checking out the naval base where the dictator was imprisoned, shot his plane down and relocated Mussolini to the alpine hotel he was then freed from by Wehrmacht airborne troopers (and a few of Skorzeny's SS troops that had gotten the permission to partake in the operation). Then Skorzeny demanded to fly out on the same plane as Mussolini, which nearly caused a crash, because the plane was overloaded. The Nazi leadership then gave Skorzeny all the credit and used him as a propaganda tool. The kidnapping of the son of the Hungarian minister was actually a very wide-spread SS operation that recaptured entire cities, Skorenzy didn't play a mayor part. After this operation Skorenzy was used in Operation Freischütz, trying to rescue a group of German units behind Russian enemy lines. This group of German units didn't exist, the Sowjets had created it and faked the whole thing, and the Nazis fell for it. During the Ardennes offensive Skorzeny and his group were supposed to take bridges and keep them open for panzer divisions, while wearing US uniforms (Unternehmen Greif). This was a failure. Then he was sent back to the eastern front, to defend a bridgehead. He was relieved of command after he lost more than 30% of his men. He was sent to the alps (German/Austrian border) to partake in the defense of the so-called Alpenfestung, which never left planning stage and there he handed himself over to the Americans on May 16, 1945. He might have been an asset for the CIA, but the western intelligence services seem to have considered him mostly worthless, the BND described him as being lucky to always be at the right place at the right time, while being mainly incapable of real work or achievements.
A lot of what was mentioned in the video is either factually wrong (the kidnapping and killing of Heinz Krug in 1962 for example, that was done by Mossad agents who kidnapped him, brought him to Israel, interviewed him for months and finally killed him north of Tel Aviv) or totally blown out of proportion, basically based on Skorenzy's own attempts of creating his own legend or Nazi propaganda.
@@MyRegardsToTheDodo Sounds plausible. Any sources you can give?
@@MyRegardsToTheDodo please, do you have any sources I can read?
@@MyRegardsToTheDodo Wow, so this guy was all over the place trying to be involved in as many things as possible.
@@MyRegardsToTheDodo
Great report, Skorzeny certainly made the most of the WW2 propaganda hype surrounding him and conveniently added some of his own spice after the war.
Never even heard of this man until I watched this, my history class was missing out on some important info back then
Didn't expect you to be here and this early, Hello
Hello mustache man...... Ohhhh wait
Sadly, the only heroes or interesting characters from World War II regularly mentioned are ones from the Allies. One exemption is Rommel.
I get the whole victor writes the history books thing, but there’s always two (or more) sides to every story.
Don’t get me wrong, Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were extremely evil, but was the Soviet Union any better? Absolutely not. If anything, they were worse.
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I heard of Operation Bernhard and the Mussolini hotel raid, but never heard of this dude.
This man’s life story is in a wayyy different level. So many twists just like a drama. Very interesting figure in history indeed.
it actually makes very much sense that Nazis would be working for Israel. FREE PALESTINE
Skorzeny was a massive self promoter and is too often taken at his own estimate of himself. He was actually Hitler's late war enforcer WITHIN Axis Europe. He himself never went behind enemy lines and rarely up to them. All his significant operations - rescuing Mussolini (not really his operation, at all), failing to catch Tito and taking Admiral Horthy - all took place hundreds of miles BEHIND German lines. In the Ardennes almost all the fluent English speakers he had came from the Brandenburgers. During Bomb Plot against Hitler he was slow to react and his fully motorised unit took eight hours to travel the twenty miles into central Berlin and arrived late. They could have walked there quicker. He is massively over hyped, not least by himself.
And this is why you have so many subscribers. Thorough research, great content and the most amazing narration. Bravo!
Bollocks. Skorzeny was a massive self promoter and is too often taken at his own estimate of himself. He was actually Hitler's late war enforcer WITHIN Axis Europe. He himself never went behind enemy lines and rarely up to them. All his significant operations - rescuing Mussolini (not really his operation, at all), failing to catch Tito and taking Admiral Horthy - all took place hundreds of miles BEHIND German lines. In the Ardennes almost all the fluent English speakers he had came from the Brandenburgers. During Bomb Plot against Hitler he was slow to react and his fully motorised unit took eight hours to travel the twenty miles into central Berlin and arrived late. They could have walked there quicker. He is massively over hyped, not least by himself.
The primary difference between a hero and a villain lies in who is telling the story.
And if he did wick stuff
@@zmeil From your point of view he did (also mine and most other people), but what if there was a person who killed more than 4 million innocent civilians, locked hundreds of thousands of other civilians in work camps because of their race, forced kids as young as 17 to fight, routinely bombed not just military targets but also civilian infrastructure (adding more innocent civilian deaths to the total) and finally supported and protected a man who was killing millions of his own people for having a different opinion than him. Who was this man? Who could possibly have done all of this and not be known world wide as a villain? Why it was none other than U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Just remember not all those seen as heroes are truly heroic and not all villains are as bad as they seem. History is still written by the winner today.
TY Tim
If Germany had won , there would been no Nuremberg trials 🤔
There are no heroes in life.
@@haveyouhuggedyourreptiletoday actully, 1 part off history is written by the not so winning side. Vikings, because the place we heard most a out vikings wich is written is inn countries the vikings raided, not much text from viking age, except that one book by Snorre Sturlason. Wich tells us about hero's and storyies from the timeline, however, we still learned more by finding texts off the vikings from other sources then vikings. Written by the loosers, considering vikings plundered alot inn the place writing about them.
Otto Skorzeny in Israel: "I'm playing both sides so I always come out on top."
"Better to have him inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in...." - What the Mossad must have been thinking, to paraphrase LBJ.
He’s a 5 star man.
@@John-ei8wq he is THE Golden God
I just discovered the channel and I have to admit that there is a very good vibe here, a different and joyful energy! Very nice content!
Beautiful! Thank you for making this. It was awesome to watch
“I need you to invade enemy territory to rescue Mussolini, do you think that is going to be hard?”
“Actually super easy, barely an inconvenience”
Rescue missions are TIGHT.
WowWowWowWow...Wow
That Peaky Blinders joke got me good 🤣
Yesssss grand humour
I’m happy someone like yourself is putting out new content and not repeating videos on ppl that thousands of other channels already did. Love learning and I never heard of otto before so thanks.
Skorzeny was a massive self promoter and is too often taken at his own estimate of himself. He was actually Hitler's late war enforcer WITHIN Axis Europe. He himself never went behind enemy lines and rarely up to them. All his significant operations - rescuing Mussolini (not really his operation, at all), failing to catch Tito and taking Admiral Horthy - all took place hundreds of miles BEHIND German lines. In the Ardennes almost all the fluent English speakers he had came from the Brandenburgers. During Bomb Plot against Hitler he was slow to react and his fully motorised unit took eight hours to travel the twenty miles into central Berlin and arrived late. They could have walked there quicker. He is massively over hyped, not least by himself.
"If you have friends in high places who consider you valuable, you can, quite literally, get away with murder."
So nothings really changed...
Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill him self
@@archockencanto1645 If one has friends in high places and becomes dangerous to them, one becomes so despondent that they often shoot themselves in the back of the head three times or something along those lines.
@@joecaner 😂. Which side are you on by the way? Escape or gotten rid of?
@@archockencanto1645 I'm on the sarcastic side.
This is great btw. Not the content per sey but rhe fact that this video is no bullshit, no sponsors and just your classic relaxed to the point style. No fancy editing, crisp clean cinematic and you seem completely relaxed. Mad props sir.
My grandpa actually fought during the Battle of the Bulge (for the allies) so it's kind of crazy that there is a teeny tiny chance he could've encountered this guy.
Not really. What that guy and his team really did during the Ardennes offensive was fail at their objectives. Their objectives were different bridges they were supposed to capture and hold for panzer divisions that followed them. For this they were supposed to use US uniforms. Didn't work out, though. And before that he had spent over a year searching for a German unit that was supposedly lost behind enemy lines at the eastern front. Turned out the Sowjets had invented that unit. After he failed at the Ardennes offensive he was sent back to the eastern front to defend a bridgehead. There he was relieved from command after losing over 30% of his men in about six weeks. Then he was sent into the alps region to defend the Alpenfestung, a retreat German high command had planned, that never left planning stage.There he handed himself over to the US military, and that's about it.
Oh, and the famous "rescue of Mussolini"? Not his operation, he basically had to beg to be allowed to partake. And he nearly ruined it twice.
Sounds homoerotic
@@ruspotter2037 They probably kissed during the cease-Fire
on Christmas Day!
@@ruspotter2037 Yeah now I see it.
it actually makes very much sense that Nazis would be working for Israel. FREE PALESTINE
I love the ending, ".. you can quite literally get away with murder.", followed by cheeky wink and smile. Thoughty2 what are you planning ? Been watching your vids for a long time, thought I'd finally subscribe. Great content ! ATB
Omg I'm so proud of you I can't believe you have 5 million suscribers now! I used to watch your videos back to back years ago when you were just starting and always thought you were so underrated! Been away from watching youtube for a few years due to busy job but back now and now you've blown up, how fantastic!
History is written by the victors, conflating their own achievements. That was until the common man could write his own story and we could see things from their point of view.
@Black Lesbian Poet
Bruh
@Black Lesbian Poet is this Nicola Adams?
We do not care
@@hadrianfaber2738 sorry but you could have just ignored my comment. Just had some insight and thought I'd share. 50 people enjoyed.
My post was deleted. I wonder why.
I know you might not see this comment, and that's okay, but I just wanted to say that I love your videos, Thoughty2. I watch them as soon as you post, and you never cease to amaze me! I really hope you keep up with the good work. We all love you!
Have you read his book? I have it as an audiobook and it’s lovely, read by Thoughty himself.
@@N_0968 Yea! I got it on my birthday on the 15th April
@@exitshikari This nice young man, Aaran Lomas, narrating stories here, has an ample podcast channel as well, as this nice video rubric
@@zmeil mhm! i've listened to all of his podcasts
This might seem like one of those broker-scammers spam threads, but at least Aaron is an engaging professional presenter. So i'll assume this plug is natural fanbase created.😁
Otto's 1970s funeral is on UA-cam. Very eerie. His longtime wife sure was a stand-by-her-man type of gal. Much respect.
Skorzeny was a massive self promoter and is too often taken at his own estimate of himself. He was actually Hitler's late war enforcer WITHIN Axis Europe. He himself never went behind enemy lines and rarely up to them. All his significant operations - rescuing Mussolini (not really his operation, at all), failing to catch Tito and taking Admiral Horthy - all took place hundreds of miles BEHIND German lines. In the Ardennes almost all the fluent English speakers he had came from the Brandenburgers. During Bomb Plot against Hitler he was slow to react and his fully motorised unit took eight hours to travel the twenty miles into central Berlin and arrived late. They could have walked there quicker. He is massively over hyped, not least by himself.
Interessante aflevering dit.. ik heb er zeer van genoten, van deze onbekende geschiedenis. 😊 weer wat bij geleerd.
I demand more great content BY ORDER OF THE PEAKY BLINDERS. Gotta love it, keep up the interesting work. i will keep watching for as long as you keep posting
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This is, in my opinion, one of the best videos of your production so far, Thank you!
Sadly, not. Skorzeny was a massive self promoter and is too often taken at his own estimate of himself. He was actually Hitler's late war enforcer WITHIN Axis Europe. He himself never went behind enemy lines and rarely up to them. All his significant operations - rescuing Mussolini (not really his operation, at all), failing to catch Tito and taking Admiral Horthy - all took place hundreds of miles BEHIND German lines. In the Ardennes almost all the fluent English speakers he had came from the Brandenburgers. During Bomb Plot against Hitler he was slow to react and his fully motorised unit took eight hours to travel the twenty miles into central Berlin and arrived late. They could have walked there quicker. He is massively over hyped, not least by himself.
I read this dudes book, its fucking insane what he did, and was rather respected by the British generals who defended him in court just due to his sheer tactical know how
Not to mention that the book offers the pov of a Nazi soldier, which you rarely ever see, and you get what is as primary of a source for these 'grandios' missions.
what is the name of the book ?
Skorzeny was a massive self promoter and is too often taken at his own estimate of himself. He was actually Hitler's late war enforcer WITHIN Axis Europe. He himself never went behind enemy lines and rarely up to them. All his significant operations - rescuing Mussolini (not really his operation, at all), failing to catch Tito and taking Admiral Horthy - all took place hundreds of miles BEHIND German lines. In the Ardennes almost all the fluent English speakers he had came from the Brandenburgers. During Bomb Plot against Hitler he was slow to react and his fully motorised unit took eight hours to travel the twenty miles into central Berlin and arrived late. They could have walked there quicker. He is massively over hyped, not least by himself.
@@markaxworthy2508 yes after finishing the book and doing a bunch of research I found the same thing out.
Excellent video, as usual.
Thanks much.
The end does not justify the means.
Whether he's good or evil isn't determined solely by which side he's on.
People who do evil things for "our" side are still evil.
Good point
@@seanrodrigues8184 You are entirely wrong.
Essentially, you are arguing that murder and rape are not evil, it's all subjective.
There ARE subjective taboos that exist per-society, like nudity or "bad words".
But murder, rape, robbery, and fraud are seen as evils in most societies, because they all have in common the violation of the natural rights of others. They all involve transgressing against the right of another to choose for himself and his property.
And the only sound way to organize any society is through the universal application of principles. "The End Justifies the Means" specifically pretends that if you violate principles like good/evil and justice because you have some short-term gain in mind, it's okay.
But, in fact, what is important is the long-term benefit of applying just principles consistently. You will always cause more harm than good if you violate them.
Speaking of justice, that is also an objective concept:
Justice is making whole the victim of a natural rights violation. In other words, when someone commits evil, it is justice to make them fix what they did wrong.
These are not "human constructs", they are natural conclusions any sapient social species can arrive at rationally. This is why they are part of what is called "natural law", as laid out by John Locke.
@@zmeil I'm glad we agree. Sadly, our nations are run by machiavellian sociopaths with low moral development, who believe that Might Makes Right. They think they can advocate for evil, as long as it's on "our side", and it's somehow okay, instead of actually being something worse than evil by an openly-evil regime.
They undermine the justice of the very nations they claim to represent. They are even more evil than their equivalent on the other side, because they claim to represent us. They besmirch all the good things our societies stand for.
@@seanrodrigues8184
> But good and evil are ideas.
> That's all they are.
Your argument that if something isn't imposed by the fabric of reality, it's purely subjective is false.
John Locke did demonstrate this logically, regarding natural rights. What he laid out is objectively true, even if acting on it is not forced by reality itself:
1. Society is comprised of individuals. It depends on their cooperation to function and survive. And to exist in the first place.
2. Without society, in the hypothetical "state of nature", people have certain natural choices. They have freedom of movement, defense, expression, association, conscience, et cetera.
3. Society must enhance those natural choices, or else the individual loses more from society than he gains. Therefore it is "right" to structure society to protect them. This is why "rights" are CALLED rights.
4. When a state takes over a society, claiming to represent it, and violates those natural rights, it wages war on the MEMBERS of society. This is inherently unstable, and obviously does far more harm than good.
All of the above is objectively true. Now you can convince yourself, or be convinced by corrupt rulers, that there is a better way...for example, that the individual is not important, any more than a single cell in a multicellular organism. But that doesn't change the facts, it only gives you different priorities.
> You wouldn't call a bear who mauled a wolf evil.
> Because that is simply just nature.
That's not why. I wouldn't call the bear evil, because it's a lower animal, with no sapience and no social awareness. It is BENEATH good and evil.
But human beings, despite certain misanthropists equating us with lower animals, are higher than that. They are capable of recognizing and respecting the natural rights of others. That is what gives THEM commensurate natural rights.
Note that bears HAVE no natural rights. We can never trust them to respect our own rights and boundaries, therefore they have none we need to respect.
A person or state who acts like a bear, violating the natural rights of others, therefore surrenders his OWN natural rights. He or it is at war with society and humanity.
> Justice is NOT objective.
> (Not even in the slightest).
Yes, of course it is, by definition. If someone steals your property, justice is restoration of the injury...the wrongdoer must be made to return your property. The only subjectivity is the metric for deciding how much EXTRA he must give you, to reflect your loss of time with that property, and your stress/hurt over it.
Restoring those injured is objective justice.
> It's childish black and white ways
> of thinking.
> Such mindsets will get you
> hurt or taken advantage of.
Actually, you're projecting. The reason you are indoctrinated into such an oppressive philosophy as you have espoused is that others want to hurt and take advantage of YOU, and of the rest of society using use as their tool.
You haven't even been taught the principles of justice, or natural rights, despite a corrupt political class having usurped a monopoly on indoctrinating you in state "education" creches.
And it also makes the people who use the evil people in their own benefit even more evil.
Man, I don't know how the hell you find all these little historical tidbits, and THEN proceed to make them sound so gripping and enthralling for US! But it's entertaining as all HELL!! The thing I like best, is how your channel just hasn't changed too much throughout the years! It's a formula that works, and any little details that HAVE been changed over time, were obviously just for the better (like maybe with "sound", or "editing" or something like that)... Anyway, it's definitely a dependable place to both learn something mind-blowing, while being tickled into outright belly laughter, from a sharp and unforgiving sense of humor!!👍
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@@andywilchsalem2377 It's just an expression... And speaking of which,, If you need any more tips on "expressions", "common phrases", or "manners of speaking", please let me know, and I'll clear it right up for you!
@@sarlaccstapeworm990 *I Can't Think of Any Right Know, but I WiLL Label this Offer for the Future!!!*
@@sarlaccstapeworm990 You were right about the fact, Aaran and his channel biddies have improved the sound and the length maybe of each topic for video presentation, also the arguments go smoothly under good editing
@@sarlaccstapeworm990 ï//
Great video, thanks. Lots of avenues for future research too!
I can listen to you all day.
You're a great narrator.
And you seem excited
Love these videos, mate. Been watching for years. Good quality, as always. You’ve done really well, Aaron. Love and respect (another northerner).
Even though he was a Nazi, can't help but appreciate how wild his story is.
lol
Yes, made up. Hence wild story
@@jantschierschky3461 your mother is made up.
@@jantschierschky3461 what are you talking about most of what was said here was not made up its pretty easy to find info on skorzeny.
@@bigvinnie3 well I had family members who known him personally, also an family friend who was in the SS and all says same thing that he is a blow hard. If you actually go right into it you find out lot is bs and he just lived on the reputation given to him by the Propaganda.
I joined the channel! Definitely need your books!!
One of your best videos, kudos for another awesome production. The person and story are really interesting
Skorzeny was a massive self promoter and is too often taken at his own estimate of himself. He was actually Hitler's late war enforcer WITHIN Axis Europe. He himself never went behind enemy lines and rarely up to them. All his significant operations - rescuing Mussolini (not really his operation, at all), failing to catch Tito and taking Admiral Horthy - all took place hundreds of miles BEHIND German lines. In the Ardennes almost all the fluent English speakers he had came from the Brandenburgers. During Bomb Plot against Hitler he was slow to react and his fully motorised unit took eight hours to travel the twenty miles into central Berlin and arrived late. They could have walked there quicker. He is massively over hyped, not least by himself.
This is *perfect* timing. I was just looking for something to listen to for the next 20 minutes while I cooked some food.
Even better i just got back from work lamo
I just finished older video and this came up.
@@austin403 thc cookies.. 😂
@@Frosty_tha_Snowman I’ll be over in 20 minutes
To me the perfect timing too
I had the unique honor of meeting him in 1973 when I was a budding military historian. I'm amazed that he did not simply have Weisenthal removed, so to speak.
Hah, Wiesenthal is no joke, you're obviously not familiar with his work. Just imagine his stature a man who got a spy like Skorzeny to turn just to avoid beef with him.
What was he like? That’s awesome
@@Roy-zu2vt Imagine something that true it has to be backed up by a Prison sentence if you don't believe it. The Truth fears no investigation . Wooden doors and Windows
Otto is one of those good nazis. You know, a dead one, cause those are the only good nazis.
If meeting with a prolific Nazi is an 'honour' you need to re-evaluate your morals.
Love your channel42, keep it up.
Thanks for your work ❤️
They should make a video game about this dude, he’s literally WW2 James Bond
It might be a bold decision to make a game on a Nazi spy, especially if we are talking mission gameplay.
@@vydave Yeah I want another game playing as the "good guys" that dropped nukes on civilians
@@leeonardodienfield402 well it was that or a land invasion that would have killed quite a large part of the japanese population
In today's world of SJW's good luck lol
@@mzrohan3226 yeah seems about right
I have read about this man few days ago and thought that a video about him from you would be a very nice story. And as always you absolutely surpassed my expectations.
Hey Thoughty2,
Great Video as always, I would have an idea for a nother Video about the documented cases of Polyphagia, it's super bizarre but yet very interesting
Excellent video and presentation as always! Two thumbs up for this one as well!
Skorzeny was a massive self promoter and is too often taken at his own estimate of himself. He was actually Hitler's late war enforcer WITHIN Axis Europe. He himself never went behind enemy lines and rarely up to them. All his significant operations - rescuing Mussolini (not really his operation, at all), failing to catch Tito and taking Admiral Horthy - all took place hundreds of miles BEHIND German lines. In the Ardennes almost all the fluent English speakers he had came from the Brandenburgers. During Bomb Plot against Hitler he was slow to react and his fully motorised unit took eight hours to travel the twenty miles into central Berlin and arrived late. They could have walked there quicker. He is massively over hyped, not least by himself.
Wow what history lessons we getting from u and its for free, thank u sir and keep them coming we really appreciate what u doing!
I wouldn't call this a history lesson, considering it's really badly researched and mostly based on fiction (partially created by Skorzeny himself). It's quite interesting, but that's about it.
Skorzeny was a massive self promoter and is too often taken at his own estimate of himself. He was actually Hitler's late war enforcer WITHIN Axis Europe. He himself never went behind enemy lines and rarely up to them. All his significant operations - rescuing Mussolini (not really his operation, at all), failing to catch Tito and taking Admiral Horthy - all took place hundreds of miles BEHIND German lines. In the Ardennes almost all the fluent English speakers he had came from the Brandenburgers. During Bomb Plot against Hitler he was slow to react and his fully motorised unit took eight hours to travel the twenty miles into central Berlin and arrived late. They could have walked there quicker. He is massively over hyped, not least by himself.
Quick couple of things:
I've been binging your videos lately, and they've been amazing, thanks for all of the really interesting content!
But also, what happened to Thoughty1 🤨
Thoughty2 sounds like 42 which, according to the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, is the meaning of life.
@@owentaylor5622 he was joking
you should do a video about Waldorf schools. I've always loved your videos and I think it's a topic you would totally nail talking about.
Good on you Thoughty for not censoring your videos. Big, big upvote from me!
When he changes the title in about an hour after its posting, the original title was Meet The Most Dangerous Man In Europe
That’s still the title I can see.
@@N_0968 He usually does end up changing it fairly quickly.
it's still that
Still is 1 day later
@@propio2957 Thank you, Captain Obvious. I had forgotten that I possessed eyes.
World peace would be in reach if all military leaders had to follow Otto's example by joining their men for combat instead of commanding them from a safe distance. You don't use people as cannon fodder if you are among them at the time. Otto's two most remarkable skills, superior economical planning and joining the fight personally, went hand in hand.
In days past, several monarchs would lead formations of their own units into combat. Maybe not always directly into combat, but at least in headquarters very near to the front where one sniper, ambush, or artillery salvo would be game over.
Ironically, it was often authoritative countries that would do this.
If military leaders were guaranteed to participate in active battle:
1. There would be a lot more guerrilla/ drone warfare.
2. Politicans would eliminate their enemies' best military minds by sending "rebels" to attack until the leader came out and the enemy snipers could pick them off.
3. Mass destruction/chemical weapons would be allowed again to protect their remaining best minds.
4. The ones left would naif, lacking the decades of experience military leaders now have and either be skittish enough to sabatoge their training to lower their chance of being sent to the front or sense a power void and fight to fill it with themselves and their like minds who will push for worse weapons to use on their enemies.
Sure, in the times before bombs, long distance rifles and chemicals weapons it was good to have the leaders near the front.
Yeah all we need for war to stop is to send military leaders into war
How did you possibly think that world peace would happen if military leaders got their hands dirty
"Otto?" So, you're on a first name basis with Obersturmbannführer Skorzeny?
Love learning something new from your videos.
You missed an interesting point in Skorzeny's career. After the war, Skorzeny also moved to IRELAND to County Kildare, where he took up sheep farming!!! He bought a 160-acre estate Martinstown House and was treated and welcomed as a celeb by Dublin high society in 1957. as Ireland at the time was still closely linked, more or less with the UK. Being an Irish resident entitled him to a visitor permit to England, and it is rumoured that he was also in the UK at the time trying to get a job with British intelligence. On the duelling scar or in German" Duell schmiss"[ with along with a monocle and cigarette holder has become the caricature of a German ww2 officer] You can still acquire such if you go to the right German universities,[Uni Heidelberg is still a good bet] and a duelling Frat house and purposefully insult another member of another duelling frat house and be challenged to a duel. Such a challenge being done by receiving a ripped business card from your opponent, delivered by his second dressed in top hat and tails.It's quasi illegal,as having young men going around universities with facial disfigurements is somewhat off-putting,even in Germany these days,but it still happens,and is not to the death and carried on under a very strict of rules and codes.
Sounds like you need your own channel, very interesting 👍
"no matter how horrible a person you are, you can quite literally, get away with murder"
*winks at the camera*
bro wtf is thoughty doing
Hey, I really love your videos, you touch on so many interesting topics and many (maybe even most of them) I've never heard of. Great job!
If you allow me to be nitpicky a little bit: I know polish names can look like they are some kind of wifi passwords, so I don't want to suggest that you absolutely need to pronounce it correctly. But I will only add that from me as a trivia: I read about this guy after your video and it seems (even he was born in Vienna, but his family came from Poland) he might have been still using polish pronunciation of his name so the rz part is like su in mea[su]re - some say it is like g in [g]enre, but this might be closer to other polish dż sound (but good enough). Last part is eny is close to English any.
Wiki says that his companions at the time might have used Skorceny ("c" as a "s" and eny as any) to make it easier and I think is it also closer than (sorry to compare) yours french or italian-like pronunciation.
If you use pronunciation closer to the original one many Poles (including me) would be really impressed, because at least some of us find it funny how people butcher our sur-/names ^.^ I also acknowledge that many people even thou they have polish surnames they themselves don't know how might it originally sounded like. Check out UA-cam boss - Susan Wojcicki. It's hilarious to hear Americans say Whykiki ;) (instead something like Voy-chi-tsk-ky) :)
But great job nevertheless!
Why would some Anglo-speaking person care about pronouncing polish surnames correctly? They’re supposed to stand in front of a mirror and go “-voy-chi-dhi” practice new ways and methods of pronunciation to please you? Wtf man? I see Polish people “zpeeking laik dis” all the time what do you think they would say if I go over and tell them no no it’s “speaking” pronounce correctly please. Wtf
@@goatmansasquatch1485 Does any of those Poles make educational videos in English and 'zpeak lik dis'?
Listen, man it is just me nitpicking on some dude I like watching and making a suggestion on something that would make him look even more discerning and knowledgeable on the topic.
Maybe he is already working on his diction anyway in front of a mirror for the rest of his script before making a video, or maybe he got talent and doesn't have to :)
Hey, no one is perfect, I'm making a lot of mistakes and also I would like to work on my accent to sound more like a native speaker.
I had hoped that my intentions would've come out as coming from a good place, but if you are getting it the wrong way then I'm sorry.
@@firuaun I’m pretty sure some do
Fascinating. Thank you.
You need to do a story on Hans Ulrich Rudel the most decorated soldier in WW2.
Despite the protagonist's politics and actions, Thoughty2 has packed 23 min full of action, adventure and ironic events into a taser to the brain. Excellent 👍
Skorzeny was a massive self promoter and is too often taken at his own estimate of himself. He was actually Hitler's late war enforcer WITHIN Axis Europe. He himself never went behind enemy lines and rarely up to them. All his significant operations - rescuing Mussolini (not really his operation, at all), failing to catch Tito and taking Admiral Horthy - all took place hundreds of miles BEHIND German lines. In the Ardennes almost all the fluent English speakers he had came from the Brandenburgers. During Bomb Plot against Hitler he was slow to react and his fully motorised unit took eight hours to travel the twenty miles into central Berlin and arrived late. They could have walked there quicker. He is massively over hyped, not least by himself.
Austrian here - while the pronunciation of "Die Spinne" was immaculate, the name Wiesenthal is pronounced to rhyme with "Reason Carl".
Weasonthul?
The" th" is actually just a T.
Where does the "r" sound come from?!
I'm sure a German would pronounce the w as a vee. Like veasontal. But as an English speaker myself, I've always heard it as weason-thul.
@@drouxbag94 vi-sen-taal
You are legit my home-school teacher at this point, thanks man 👍
(Also, petition for Otto to be in the next James Bond movie)
Really nice video! Keep up the good content :).
you're simply the best Thoughty2
These academic fencing communities still exist largely actually, both in Germany and in Vienna. They are called (Studentenverbindung) which means student bond or community, basically a fraternity. And yes, they still hold formal fencing matches with razor sharp swords and protection for the eyes and neck. We used to practice everyday and the primary goal is to whack your opponents temple or cheek as hard as you can with your sword while using your same arm to defend from enemy blows. They also have drinking matches with a lot of voluntary vomiting involved. Glad I left that hell lol
The spider was quite real. Before his death, I've been able to talk to a former SS Standartenführer of the 1st SS Panzer Division Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler (grandfather of an ex girlfriend) who has had involvement with it both for his own escape to Argentina, and to help others who arrived there.
It was an interesting conversation, in a way its too bad I don't have a recording of it, or good notes, but it was rather unexpected to end up in a conversation about this. He never wanted to talk about anything involving the war with his children and grandchildren, and I'm sure that wouldn't have happened if it were an interview of sorts.
Your documentaries are brilliant
Right from the source - The file for Otto Skorzeny (KV-2-403) is available for downloading (for free) at KEW National archives.
Physical Description: with 3 photographs and a US Army interrogation report
I actually saw the 'Last Nazi in the World' one evening while making a Prison Visit. I was speaking with someone, we were in the Visiting area which was a bunch of bulletproof boxes.
I noticed laser spots on the floor and then saw 3 very large guards transporting a prisoner to Visits. Their Tasers were 'Hot' and prepped for firing.
I expected to see a large animal of a Human all Hannibal Lecter style. Instead a very elderly scrawny man with a skimpy nightshirt on wearing handcuffs and being held firmly appeared.
And yup, for what it's worth, that there scary prisoner was the former grape now turned raisin of the last Nazi to be tried anywhere in the World being transported out of Canada Circa 2008 or 9.
The last Nazi in the world!! Loooool really? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤭🤭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The last nazis in the world are still alive, azov battalion in ukraine
Either you die a villain or live long enough to see yourself become a hero.
@@666Kaca drink more koolaid
@Huff_Puff the Kremlin is ran by a bunch of authoritative nut jobs that will cause Russia to become a third world backwater country.
One of your best. Fascinating history.
to be fair, you can paint a black and white picture about anyone, doesn't matter if he's a nazi or a an allied hero. Doing the nazi salut at a brother-in-arms's funeral is actually quite nice and nostalgic for them. If the sides were flipped, and those were british or american soldiers singing british or american song for their former friend and hero in a world where the axis won, we would still consider them heroes instead of saying they are showing their "true colors". I mean there's a good chance that man saved their lives or the lives of their friends and families during the war. A good man is a good man, no matter who he fights for and the same works in reverse, a bad man will be a bad man on both sides. The Allies had their villains and Axis had their heroes just as well.
anyway, good video as always, I love T2
I remember seeing a programme about RAF recruits and part of the process was to measure the men’s height and the length of their arms. Even now the planes are not adjusted to the pilots, pilots are chosen because they can fit in the pilot seat
I'm surprised that you haven't done a video on the Uruguayan flight 571 what crashed in the andes (That flight that a rugby team was on) and how they survived for that long
Brew makes short films in the same vein as Thoughty2, and has covered this subject in similar fashion
A video about Skorzeny, I have Been waiting for this
fun fact academic fencing is still happening in some student groups in germany but its super rare
Interesting to see such complexity fully play out for him. Cool to see the history of this
Oh boy! Just when I thought it couldn't get any better Thoughty2 came up with this gem of a story. Never heard of this what a guy. He should have written a book about his life. He was surely brave, interesting to learn about the 'fencing' All and all it's a tale I'm glad you covered. No matter how dangerous his story deserves to be told
Skorzeny was a massive self promoter and is too often taken at his own estimate of himself. He was actually Hitler's late war enforcer WITHIN Axis Europe. He himself never went behind enemy lines and rarely up to them. All his significant operations - rescuing Mussolini (not really his operation, at all), failing to catch Tito and taking Admiral Horthy - all took place hundreds of miles BEHIND German lines. In the Ardennes almost all the fluent English speakers he had came from the Brandenburgers. During Bomb Plot against Hitler he was slow to react and his fully motorised unit took eight hours to travel the twenty miles into central Berlin and arrived late. They could have walked there quicker. He is massively over hyped, not least by himself.
This was an incredible video, i thought at the end of them wwii part it would drag on but it was great, i never saw the twists coming it was greatly entertaining 👍
Skorzeny was a massive self promoter and is too often taken at his own estimate of himself. He was actually Hitler's late war enforcer WITHIN Axis Europe. He himself never went behind enemy lines and rarely up to them. All his significant operations - rescuing Mussolini (not really his operation, at all), failing to catch Tito and taking Admiral Horthy - all took place hundreds of miles BEHIND German lines. In the Ardennes almost all the fluent English speakers he had came from the Brandenburgers. During Bomb Plot against Hitler he was slow to react and his fully motorised unit took eight hours to travel the twenty miles into central Berlin and arrived late. They could have walked there quicker. He is massively over hyped, not least by himself.
This guy deserves a netflix series !
Netflix is cancerous farleft propaganda, they would never do accurate history series about nazis.
Agree 💯 % !
Incredibly high quality video, well done
Skorzeny was a massive self promoter and is too often taken at his own estimate of himself. He was actually Hitler's late war enforcer WITHIN Axis Europe. He himself never went behind enemy lines and rarely up to them. All his significant operations - rescuing Mussolini (not really his operation, at all), failing to catch Tito and taking Admiral Horthy - all took place hundreds of miles BEHIND German lines. In the Ardennes almost all the fluent English speakers he had came from the Brandenburgers. During Bomb Plot against Hitler he was slow to react and his fully motorised unit took eight hours to travel the twenty miles into central Berlin and arrived late. They could have walked there quicker. He is massively over hyped, not least by himself.
@markaxworthy2508 the fact that you spent all that time typing that amuses me because I literally couldn't care less 🖕😂🖕
I have no idea why, but the phrase "academic fencing" gave me some not-so-fun flashbacks of boarding school.
Great vid as always mr.42
One of the best videos you’ve done yet Bravo 👏
Skorzeny was a massive self promoter and is too often taken at his own estimate of himself. He was actually Hitler's late war enforcer WITHIN Axis Europe. He himself never went behind enemy lines and rarely up to them. All his significant operations - rescuing Mussolini (not really his operation, at all), failing to catch Tito and taking Admiral Horthy - all took place hundreds of miles BEHIND German lines. In the Ardennes almost all the fluent English speakers he had came from the Brandenburgers. During Bomb Plot against Hitler he was slow to react and his fully motorised unit took eight hours to travel the twenty miles into central Berlin and arrived late. They could have walked there quicker. He is massively over hyped, not least by himself.
Very interesting stuff, you should look into the scotsman who had the most confirmed kills with a bow and claymore. Man also escaped captivity 3 times during WWII.
He was not a fanatic or an ideologue. Just a loyal and competent man who knows how to adapt.
Bollocks. Skorzeny was a massive self promoter and is too often taken at his own estimate of himself. He was actually Hitler's late war enforcer WITHIN Axis Europe. He himself never went behind enemy lines and rarely up to them. All his significant operations - rescuing Mussolini (not really his operation, at all), failing to catch Tito and taking Admiral Horthy - all took place hundreds of miles BEHIND German lines. In the Ardennes almost all the fluent English speakers he had came from the Brandenburgers. During Bomb Plot against Hitler he was slow to react and his fully motorised unit took eight hours to travel the twenty miles into central Berlin and arrived late. They could have walked there quicker. He is massively over hyped, not least by himself.
The cut is fire bro 🔥 🔥
Fascinating. These characters from the 20th century have brethren in the leftists of the 21st century. Another superb video from T2.
Thank you for your videos, I can’t imagine the effort put into the research and no matter the topic, it is easily presented with a bit of comedic flair, sarcasm and irony that I find particularly entertaining and educational as well, a feat not easily achieved. If you have a podcast, or other media, please provide the information so those of us who appreciate your work and enjoy what you do can subscribe and support you in our own little way. Mucho gracias 🙏🏿👍🏿🤗
Apparently, there were many Nazis, who were 'released' by the Nuremberg trials. Those who were convicted, but not executed were imprisoned, quite often found themselves pardoned of their 'crimes' a couple of years later. Maybe there is some connection, that those 'exonerated', were well-connected and powerful.
This matters too, but Otto had discipline, and was intelligent, hard-working and a devout soldier, I will give him that!
Their ''crimes'' only admitted to under torture, with no proof otherwise
Was this related to Operation Paperclip? Where Nazis were secretly admitted to the States to further our research into rocketry and other chemistry and physics work. Many wound up at NASA.
Their files either had their Nazi data removed, which left an impression of a paperclip on their immigration papers, or they had a note paperclipped to rush approve these particular immigrants. I've heard it told both ways. (Or it was just a random.name designation for the secret program. 🤷🏼♂️
In fact it was Wernher von Braun, who was an SS Sturmbannführer (~Major) and rocket scientist, who would spearhead the Apollo Saturn V Rocket program in the States, including the V2 rockets which took the USA's astronauts to the moon...
Murica....wooo.
@@elisabethandersen1102 except testimony from ppl who were their victims that didn't die or just a witness...
Skorzeny was never important enough to end up in Nuremberg (except as a whitness, maybe). He was decently incompetent but always managed to fail his way up and knew the right people to be used as a propaganda tool for the Nazis (he didn't plan Operation Oak, for example, he and a few of his men were allowed to partake in it, but then he nearly ruined it twice). After the war he managed to create his own legend and be quite successful, because he again knew the right people at the right time.
Hands down one of the best chanels on youtube
I spit out my coffee when you made the Peaky Blinders reference lmao great Video as always
i saw a documentary about this guy a couple years ago... holy cow man this guy was crazy lol
Thoughty2, can I get a tutorial on how you style your hair? Kinda having trouble styling my curly locks.
Thanks management
:D
Very nicely done video.
Damn! Thanks for explaining all the scars! I always wondered
By the order of the Peaky Blenders, I command y'all to acknowledge the supremacy of Thoughty2's storytelling prowess.
Can we just appreciate how much research he does
Wow. So that's where our weird fencing comes from.
In Germany there are things called "Studentenverbindungen" which are usually very old school with lots of drinking and very strict social Hirarchys and stuff.
In most of them you are required to do this weird kind of endurance testing fencing stuff where you just hit at each other until one person can't anymore to test who has more strength and willpower.
Some of my friends are in a "Studentenverbindung" as well.
My uncle also has a pretty nasty scar in his face from his days at the University.
So believe it or not but this very outdated seeming tradition is still standing today.
It's funny to see how little has changed in that regard.
I highly recommend the docu series 'hitlers circle of evil'. It's super well done telling in detail how the Nazi apparatus got installed.
Hearing stories like this I often wonder if those events occured today if someone like this would still get away with everything all the same or if it would easier, harder, different, etc just based on Societal Evolutions that have happened between now and then.
I think that despite all the illuminati chatter, he'd be much easier to catch today. Having "friends at right places" still has huge value, but back then... like thoughty2 says - you could get away with everything. Just consider the amount of inhumanity the Dark Age church was allowed to commit without anyone ever touching them. Now the atrocities commited by priests and nuns leak left and right, people know, talk.
the ending of this video is wild very true indeed m8, if u are a nobody but u work for powerful men you will be living the good life no matter what u did or supported. crazy
It has been so long since i last watched you. Those old planetary videos and disturbing dounds videos were pretty good.
I would have to say he was more dangerous after the war, especially when he went to Egypt and taught his tactics there. which were later used by the PLO, Hezbollah and later Issis.
Skorzeny actually worked for Israel against Egypt in the Six Day War.
maybe vlad has a point about nazis in the west
@@r0ky_M I guess they left that out on the video about the Nazis and the grand Mufti that I saw.
1i1s?? lmaoooo
The story of this man has scary similarities to that of Youjo Senki (Tanya the evil). Mostly the increase of ranks, having his own commando unit early on, being german and dangerous. But in the manga/anime, there are no nazi and the missions are mostly military (but could still be the most dangerous man in europe).
Everything you just namend fits about 1000 people at least....
You literally just said "any successfully Nazi commander".
Truly scary similarities indeed. Shocking even.
Also the Anime might have not shown them as Nazis (left out the Swastikas) to avoid being "Offensive" or something but Tanya's entire side was literally just Nazi Germany.
What do you mean with "there were no Nazis"? Almost every character in the entire Anime was a Nazi...
Tanya was called the devil of the Rhein which was an actual Nazi War Nickname.
tanya the evil s1 is a banger
Love these videos
The bit that threw me for a look was that with the uniforms, since "It's only a (war) crime if you end up on the losing side" was a bit of a pillar of Allied actions.
A US stone is less than a British stone, so he was 252lbs. not 225. I felt that was not important, but wanted to write it here anyway for the benefit of the 1 person who might find it useful!
I didn’t even realise the US had a different stone measurement
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO STOP USING THE FOCKING IMPERIAL!!! METRIC IS 10000000000000000000(0) TIMES BETTER!!
I appreciate it, I live in the US, other than it representing some kind of weight, I didn't know how much.
@@kostadingramatikov9692 I don’t see how seeing as many countries around the world still have buildings that are 100’s of years old still standing. Many still functioning. Built using imperial measurements and their predecessors
@@Iamtheliquor what a shallow, ignorant comment.