Givony totally underplaying the Filipowski thing if various tweets are to be believed. Dude's gf was allegedly his babysitter who groomed him for Mormonism, cutting him off from his family. If true, yeah, most teams would be nervous....just not the Jazz. 😊
Just looked up Andre Iguodala. Warriors didn't have to give up picks, but it would have been worth it. But, the 7th year was the year the Ws bombed with injuries.
As a Nets fan I'm very excited. We got two of the Houston picks back. They now control their own destiny and can do a proper rebuild. They have a ton of draft picks. Simmons contact is done after this year. Bridges clearly wasn't good enough to be even a number two on a contender and wanted out. While the Knicks picks will probably not amount yo much they're still assests. It would be great if some of those picks turn into solid players.
I think his "odd" background helps makes him unique for sports. (He's a legit smart dude. Ivy League schooling.) Let's forget about his schooling, but the dude taught high school for a few years. Then, went to Journalism school. And, was a crime / politics reporter with his local paper. The dude preps hard with lots of notes and is very processed oriented. Working for Simmons helped him loosen up a bit personality wise. I remember his first podcast with Simmons. He was pretty stiff, lol.
@@ApoloWilliams you are clueless. Dude actually knows ball when it comes to on the court, and he has actual insider knowledge whem he says stuff it means something. He is not ESPN like Perk or SAS is/was. You are lost
@@WhereIsYourID wat inside knowledge cause listening to him he just like Steven a still yelling that kevin durant nonsense the only one who speaks truth and has knowledge is tim legler Lowe is like rest of idiots don't watch nba if he did his takes on knicks would be better
Spurs have been pretty terrible drafting players. They had no decision with Wemby. Everyone was taking him. But all their other young players are very bad or just meh. So if they pass on Dillingham, i am loving the odds that he is more apt to be a good player. Had spurs taken him, he would have just been a Cam Thomas type. And that just is not a good winning player. Now there is real hope for him that he is Garland/Maxey 2.0
can’t believe i haven’t heard anyone mention how bridges is worth 5 picks PARTLY BECAUSE HIS SALARY IS LOW. HES MAKING 20 mill less PER YEAR than OG a comparable player. when you make a trade you’re acquiring both the player AND HIS CONTRACT. ITS GOOD VALUE
That is a great point that I’ve been thinking about too. His contract is great value. Now they have 4/5 great value contracts on this team so the OG overpay is fine for a year or two.
It should be a win for the Nets but don't excuse their incompetence they have proven they can screw up now they have a cushion but why did they think they needed this many chances do THEY believe they're that bad
@@pimpnamedslickback7780 are you each team has only so many roster spots and if you need 4 times as many picks to fill in the same number of spots it's a reflection on management
Did anyone watch Mykal Bridges in Brooklyn since he came to the Nets? He basically took over the team and led them....he's a long wing who can shoot....take you off the dribble and can defend..... The vibe in the league is tall althoetic wings...lol
Took over them and led them? To what 32 wins? Last yr he was also awful on both sides of the ball. He averaged 11 points on 37% shooting after the all star break.
Masai ain't know fool he new after OG rejected the 4/117M extension it was time to use him as a trade trip so he didn't lose him for nothing in a bidding war at FA b/c he was not going to overpaid for him. He saw IQ as a Maxey type guard both from Kentucky who will be good to play with Scottie & did the right thing & got RJ who looks way better in Raps system + 31st pick who happened to a prototype like Scortie & literally is friend, Mgobo. Pascal trade was fair for an expiring contract 3 FRPs, Bruce Brown( will know tomorrow what happens), Kira & Nwora. He then traded Kira,OPJ + 1FRP (29 pick this yr) for Olynk + Ochai (8 pick). Good deal. Team is not hard cap. Like the trade Masai did w/ Sac earlier today ( Davion, Vezkenov+45pick (Shead- a dawg on defense) + 2025 SRP ( Blazers pick) for Jalen MacDaniels. Then they drafted the 18yr old kid Ulrich Comche ( Africa Academy) good physical tool w/lots of upsides. Love what Masai is doing. Scottie will shock the world again next yr. His vision, IQ , work ethic & competitive drive is off the wall. His shooting has gotten better from yr 1 to yr 3.
@@liferealgood You are either validating my surprise to what he said which imo is not realistic. Even with their current roster now they are barely a play in team.
The people living in BK are KNICKS fans! They will NEVER be the popular team that anyone cares about....they should MOVE to Seattle! It is hilarious that both these guys, one living in BK doesn't know any BK fans!!!
Boston, Cleveland, Indiana, Milwaukee, Philly----there you go. 5 teams thaat will likely finish ahead of the Knicks next year. They won ONE playoff series last year. Did they really show us they are better than Indiana or that they have a brighter future than Indiana? Is their roster better than Cleveland's? I am not sure we can say yes to these questions once we subtract the outsized NY media reaction which coarses through pundit's brains like a contagion.
Jonathan is great w the draft but he is not quite ready yet for the NBA analysis. Zach comes from perspective of winning NBA title, Givony’s position as draft expert over estimates the impact of what these rookies will mean in regards to winning. It’s kinda of two totally different wavelengths
nobody wants to play in brooklyn rn 😂 love the shoutout for how cute carroll gardens is lmao but at almost every home game there’s gonna be more away fans than nets fans 😔
People who cover the NBA refuse to ever acknowledge when players are no longer themselves until it's a year too late. Brook Lopez and Middleton are washed
Love the Lowe post but I have to disagree with his take on all this. I understand Mikal Bridges isn't a superstar and gonna be the "guy" on the Knicks but he's the last piece they needed to be true contenders. This is coming from a Pacers fan btw who if I had known bridges was actually available I would have been all for my pacers giving up a couple young guys and picks for him because he woulda been our last piece too. Does this mean they're necessarily locks to win the East? No hell Boston is still top dog until further notice but I am well aware that new york is unequivocally the second best team in the east now and those firsts they traded away don't even mean much IMO. What are they gonna do with the 26th pick in the draft the next few years? Because that's how good they're gonna be..so anyways I think this isn't as "clever" a trade for the nets as people make out...if anything they did that was clever it was get their own pick back...idk what the hell the rockets were thinking sending that back to them tbh. But anyway I don't think this move is gonna be as fruitful for the nets as everyone thinks and I very strongly believe the Knicks will be in at least the ECF sometime in the next couple years barring crazy injuries or something. If they move Randle and get back some draft equity or another big man that can shoot kinda piece or something like that then I'd actually say the Knicks had the best off season I could have possibly imagined them having in my mind.
Celtic fan here... So in a vaccum he's right that this many firsts is crazy. BUT when you think about the apron, you think about teams at that second apron... I think this is genius. You're not gonna want back end first round players anyways, and you certainly don't want to pay 9 mil for them and just keep adding to your luxury tax etc. So... if you control your core for the next 4 or so years... might as well go for it. Who cares? You're not losing anything if your the knicks.. you were gonna try to trade those firsts to get seconds anyways. So at face value, yea bridges for that haul is nuts. But when you factor the business end and the ramifications/realities of the new CBA, I think the knicks are just spearheading a new trend - "almost there" teams who are looking at going over the second apron and saying "f it" lets give our firsts, however many it takes, and secure the team we are gonna roll with for the next 3-5 years. All that said... I don't think tis enough to beat a HEALTHY Celtics team. I do think it puts the knicks securely in the "formidable" opponent range where nobody would be super surprised if they won... but all in all I think bridges and OG aren't stopping the Jays from doing what they do, and the celtics will still mostly operate how they want. The knicks will have a lot to say about it and the Celtics will have to play to their peak, but at least for next year I got Celtics... Once horford is gone and Jrue is on the decline... then we we can start talking about being truly fearful of the knicks.
@@nickgilday8946 yeah man thanks for writing all that honestly. I didn't want to go in depth as you did because I don't have the attention span for it lol but a lot of that was also in my mind in regards to the trade. Very happy to hear someone else "getting it". I thought I was alone out here just trying to figure out where Windy hosts his podcasts so I could find like minded individuals lol.
@@edwarddavis9343 yeah I was impressed to see someone else commenting that is knowledgeable of the subject. Usually I get everyday fans that just spew some nonsense about how good they think players are and eventually it turns into a drama of GOAT debate below my original comment that had nothing to do with that lol. Props to this Nick guy 🤘🏻
@@nickgilday8946in a yr they’ll have to move guys bc Randle and Brunson will want big new deals. Same with bridges in 2 yrs. Like there future flexibility isn’t actually that great. They went all in for 1-2 yr stretch and they’re not even favorites
Easier said than done. Also, just being big and being able to stretch the floor isn't enough. They also need to do the things you need bigs to do defensively. Channing Frye doesn't help you. Porzingis does (good luck with that).
Why is everyone missing the important details. It isn’t just 5 first-round picks for Mikal, it’s 5 first-round picks and a 35 year old in order to get a young up-coming star from your crosstown rival without giving up any of your young core. Timberwolves traded 5 picks and 4 players for Gobert. Suns traded 3 players and 5 picks for Durant. Cavs traded 5 picks and 3 players for d Mitch. The Knicks traded 5 picks and 1 aging star to keep their depth and get a player with better shooting and defense.
Teams who are at the aprons or about to jump into second are going to start emulating this idea - All those teams are trying to get rid of their firsts anyways, why not convert them into a core player. Yes that many firsts is too much for bridges in a vaccum, but when you look at it from the full picture - where the knicks are, what they need to truly compete with Celtics/contend, and the realities of the CBA... This is a great move. I'm a Celtics fan so take it with a grain of salt, but I don't think its enough to beat the Celtics at least next year. Both these teams have now put their feet in the mud so to speak.. Neither team will change significantly over the next 4 years or so. I think once horford retires and Jrue starts to decline, that scale might tip in favor of the knicks. Will be fun to watch.
Yeah cause they haven’t hit on everyone of their drafts. Stop pretending Brian is working alone. RC is in the room, Pop is in the room, freaking Tim Duncan is in the room. The Spurs aren’t one person they are an organization. Brian doesn’t make decisions on his own
Spurs fans know we are all stupid compare to the front office the spurs have. Real spurs fans know to never have any doubt in our organization. That’s what being a spurs fan is
1) I said "if". 2) There's clearly something off about the situation since he fell to the 2nd round, and teams are talking about that being part of the reasoning.
Durant is AT BEST a top 13, and that is with him being 13 In no order 1-5 MJ, Wilt, Kareem, LeBron, Magic 6-10 Bird, Duncan, Shaq, Hakeem, Russell 11/12 Kobe/Curry Its KD greater than Bill Russell, or Big O, or Dr J, or Moses Malone, or West, or Ish Thomas or Giannis, or Jokic or Dirk? I would day no
😂….Cobble Hill & Carroll Gardens. Used to live in Cobble Hill. And just to be clear, there used to be a buzz in NYC about….say the Yanks in the Neter days. There is no “buzz” in NYC about anything anymore bc it’s a lifeless façade of a city now. 💯
9:00 mark "The Knicks were the team the Celtics feared the most" Excuse me??? I know you need to filibuster to fill up an hour show, but enough of the word vomit and outright lies
The rockets got 10 players that play the 2/3/4 that they invested money or high picks in they need to consolidate talent to maximize it b4 they all gone
Why are the most gifted humans the most ungrateful? Exodus 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain....and folk wonder why lousy stuff in their lives happens?
People forget they got jason terry too and how big kg and pierce are as names and how good they still were at the time and how much they still had left to play...still a bad trade but if brook stays healthy that team takes the 2014 heat 7 games....
Knicks Congratulations you actually made some smart moves and you definitely surpassed the sixers and the bucks on depth. Bridges- at this point you could say bridges is probably your SG id say he is a top 10 SG in the NBA . Premier defender who can guard 1-3. This protects brunson on def. He has improved his scoring I think he may be underrated there not saying he is a #1 but, you get a younger jrue Holiday type Not as much of a play maker but has more size. OG Annunoby Not sure I think he is a 200 mill player. But he could turn out to be your second best player on the team. Athletic can defend shoot and has developed a better handle to help the offensive tempo and flow. Both he and bridges fit the def mentality of the head coach. Id rather have him at 200 mill than say PG13 going forward because he is the better defender and although PG can score between the 2-3 position there are at least 12 players id rather have be my leading or second leading scorer so I like the timeline of the two wings. Randle and Robinson I think healthy the Knicks don't have better offensive threats than Tatum or brown but you could slow them down now and play a team based off with only one lead scorer and everyone else plays off him. Randle definitely need guys besides brunson who could relieve the pressure of scoring in the playoffs now you have two wings to help and Robinson now becomes trade bate. Hartiensteien played well obviously he will probably go somewhere else for more $ but id look to see if they can maybe move off Robinson bring him back . Possibly you could now move off randle. I give the Knicks an A for off-season moves
Anf, Sharpe, Deni, Ayton, clingan starting lineup will be very big and very interesting for Portland. They might not be that bad especially if Scoot gets better or Anf stays
NFL 1ST ROUND PICKS HAVE WAAAY MORE VALUE THAN NBA 1ST RD PICKS BECAUSE THE NBA IS BUST HEAVY W/ 1 AND DONES SO THOSE 5 LATE 1st RD PICKS THE NYK GAVE UP IS VIRTUALLY WORTHLESS & THE MORE THEY WIN THE MORE THE PICKS STINK. THE KNICKS ARE PLAYING CHESS, LET THE PICKS GO WHILE THEY STILL HAVE VALUE. TOP TEAMS GET SHITTY PICKS. 👀
@@liferealgood NOW those picks are worth something! It's just too bad they squander it, Rinse cycle repeat. I'm just glad the NYK no longer live there because we have a grown up running the show. NO NBA2K, NO FANTASY LEAGUE.
They talked about Risacher relative to Bridges. What should they talk about, how Atlanta is trying to unload Young and/or Murray and nobody wants them?
New Yorkers always vastly overestimate how much players want to play in their city. Who wants to pay crazy taxes and have every person on the street harass you over losses?
Thank you guys for actually talking about the draft and everyone in it and not talking about the lakers and bronny for an hour straight. Dropping a like and a sub just for that
WWIII is around the corner. The Knicks going all in on this next season gives us the chance to be the last Champs... ever. All future picks could be irrelevant. 🤷🏿♂️
New York wins ONE playoff series in the last twenty years or whatever it is. And one could argue that injuries played a big role in this victory. Anyway, because they won ONE playoff series, we are all going to have to hear all summer long how the Knicks are championship contenders. Amazing! (Note: Tommy T is going to have to show that he doesn't just squeeze his players to death to overachieve for a year or two. Right now, there is no evidence that it is going to be any different. Look at the minutes he played his guys in the playoff. I am not surprised the Knicks overachieved last year. I am not surprised at all. Now what would surprise me is if he built a real, long-term (3-5 years) contender. In fact, I would be shocked if he did this)
You’re just repeating what you heard someone else say. Half the team was hurt, somebody had to play the minutes. He used what he had, and did pretty well considering the circumstances. If the Knicks manage to stay healthy this season they will be in the conference finals minimum
You couldn’t be more wrong. They beat the Sixers this postseason and the Cavs the postseason prior. Also both teams were dealing with injuries in the first round. Embiid was hurt but the Knicks didn’t have Randle or Bogan. Then they were 2-0 or 2-1 on the Pacers before OG injury. Series easily could’ve been over in six if OG didn’t get hurt.
@liferealgood Good point about the earlier victories. It just felt like 20 years. I hear what you are saying. But I still think there is a motivation for the knicks to be good that creeps in. As a result, we are going to be told that they are a championship level team. Is the overachieve narrative wrong? Is that not what we saw in large part? Brunson shooting 30 times a game has a half life, no? Teams will figure that out? What do they have after that? Maybe if Randall comes back, they will have a second option player who can create his own shot. That is till not a lot. Maybe answer this question for me. Why are people convinced that Knicks are better than say---I don't know--the Pacers. Have they shown us they are or is there simply an outsized reaction to the Knicks?
The Duke Center Filipowski story is wild. Mormon brainwashed and groomed by older mormon gf to cut off his own family and now drafted by Utah - incredible story. Poor guy - she isn't even that hot
I get what you're saying, but her hotness is irrelevant. If the story's true, she's a predator who groomed a teenager, indoctrinated him into a belief system, and alienated him from his family. She could be the hottest person ever and it would be equally repugnant.
Givony totally underplaying the Filipowski thing if various tweets are to be believed. Dude's gf was allegedly his babysitter who groomed him for Mormonism, cutting him off from his family. If true, yeah, most teams would be nervous....just not the Jazz. 😊
Overblown story. Kids have falling outs with their families all the time. We’ve only heard his mother and brothers side
Just looked up Andre Iguodala. Warriors didn't have to give up picks, but it would have been worth it. But, the 7th year was the year the Ws bombed with injuries.
As a Nets fan I'm very excited. We got two of the Houston picks back. They now control their own destiny and can do a proper rebuild. They have a ton of draft picks. Simmons contact is done after this year. Bridges clearly wasn't good enough to be even a number two on a contender and wanted out. While the Knicks picks will probably not amount yo much they're still assests. It would be great if some of those picks turn into solid players.
WTH is wrong with Charlotte, why can't they seem to get right...?
Zach is funny, likable, and charismatic. Love this guy!
He's 🗑 his basketball knowledge is espn
I think his "odd" background helps makes him unique for sports. (He's a legit smart dude. Ivy League schooling.) Let's forget about his schooling, but the dude taught high school for a few years. Then, went to Journalism school. And, was a crime / politics reporter with his local paper.
The dude preps hard with lots of notes and is very processed oriented.
Working for Simmons helped him loosen up a bit personality wise. I remember his first podcast with Simmons. He was pretty stiff, lol.
Zach burner
@@ApoloWilliams you are clueless. Dude actually knows ball when it comes to on the court, and he has actual insider knowledge whem he says stuff it means something. He is not ESPN like Perk or SAS is/was. You are lost
@@WhereIsYourID wat inside knowledge cause listening to him he just like Steven a still yelling that kevin durant nonsense the only one who speaks truth and has knowledge is tim legler Lowe is like rest of idiots don't watch nba if he did his takes on knicks would be better
Spurs have been pretty terrible drafting players. They had no decision with Wemby. Everyone was taking him. But all their other young players are very bad or just meh. So if they pass on Dillingham, i am loving the odds that he is more apt to be a good player. Had spurs taken him, he would have just been a Cam Thomas type. And that just is not a good winning player. Now there is real hope for him that he is Garland/Maxey 2.0
What's nagging Zach about Milwaukee is Doc Rivers.
can’t believe i haven’t heard anyone mention how bridges is worth 5 picks PARTLY BECAUSE HIS SALARY IS LOW. HES MAKING 20 mill less PER YEAR than OG a comparable player. when you make a trade you’re acquiring both the player AND HIS CONTRACT. ITS GOOD VALUE
That's a really good point. That contract is the only reason everything in this is workable.
That is a great point that I’ve been thinking about too. His contract is great value. Now they have 4/5 great value contracts on this team so the OG overpay is fine for a year or two.
For now
Excellent point. You are trying to win the title too. The all in makes sense
You feel better about this deal because the Knicks didn't lose any rotation players!
Bogey was a 3 point shooting monster he was a key bench piece that needs replacing but greedy 0g eat that salary up
@@BrooklynKnicksFanwe don’t need him. Brunson/Bridges/OG/Randle/Robinson……. Cope harder
Unless they don’t sign IH
IH is more valuable than Robinson..
@AustinWilliams-ex9um yea im not feeling og could have gotten 38 million a year
It should be a win for the Nets but don't excuse their incompetence they have proven they can screw up now they have a cushion but why did they think they needed this many chances do THEY believe they're that bad
Chances? You mean draft picks? Probably bc they want more players are you slow?
@@pimpnamedslickback7780 are you each team has only so many roster spots and if you need 4 times as many picks to fill in the same number of spots it's a reflection on management
Did anyone watch Mykal Bridges in Brooklyn since he came to the Nets? He basically took over the team and led them....he's a long wing who can shoot....take you off the dribble and can defend.....
The vibe in the league is tall althoetic wings...lol
Took over them and led them? To what 32 wins? Last yr he was also awful on both sides of the ball. He averaged 11 points on 37% shooting after the all star break.
How do u mispell his name? Its in the title of the vid 😅
@@raincity3s u must be a editor or proofreader for a living..lol....and a lot of time on your hands....
@@GearWave just seems odd my guy. Its literally in your face and u still found a way to mess it up. No need to get offended.
Did he say the Nets are two years away from contending for home court advantage in the playoffs? WTH!!! 😅😂😂
Wait, isn't Ben Simmons coming back? 😅
@@whitelotus1594Ben Simmons workouts clips boutta be 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Masai ain't know fool he new after OG rejected the 4/117M extension it was time to use him as a trade trip so he didn't lose him for nothing in a bidding war at FA b/c he was not going to overpaid for him. He saw IQ as a Maxey type guard both from Kentucky who will be good to play with Scottie & did the right thing & got RJ who looks way better in Raps system + 31st pick who happened to a prototype like Scortie & literally is friend, Mgobo. Pascal trade was fair for an expiring contract 3 FRPs, Bruce Brown( will know tomorrow what happens), Kira & Nwora. He then traded Kira,OPJ + 1FRP (29 pick this yr) for Olynk + Ochai (8 pick). Good deal. Team is not hard cap. Like the trade Masai did w/ Sac earlier today ( Davion, Vezkenov+45pick (Shead- a dawg on defense) + 2025 SRP ( Blazers pick) for Jalen MacDaniels. Then they drafted the 18yr old kid Ulrich Comche ( Africa Academy) good physical tool w/lots of upsides. Love what Masai is doing. Scottie will shock the world again next yr. His vision, IQ , work ethic & competitive drive is off the wall. His shooting has gotten better from yr 1 to yr 3.
@@mollyweir9350 that’s fair but what does that have to do with anything I said.
@@liferealgood You are either validating my surprise to what he said which imo is not realistic. Even with their current roster now they are barely a play in team.
Givony isn't telling Zach the full story about filipowski or however you spell it
What happened?
I love that they give us the whole episode I want to press play and go about my day
The people living in BK are KNICKS fans! They will NEVER be the popular team that anyone cares about....they should MOVE to Seattle! It is hilarious that both these guys, one living in BK doesn't know any BK fans!!!
Boston, Cleveland, Indiana, Milwaukee, Philly----there you go. 5 teams thaat will likely finish ahead of the Knicks next year. They won ONE playoff series last year. Did they really show us they are better than Indiana or that they have a brighter future than Indiana? Is their roster better than Cleveland's? I am not sure we can say yes to these questions once we subtract the outsized NY media reaction which coarses through pundit's brains like a contagion.
Jonathan is great w the draft but he is not quite ready yet for the NBA analysis. Zach comes from perspective of winning NBA title, Givony’s position as draft expert over estimates the impact of what these rookies will mean in regards to winning. It’s kinda of two totally different wavelengths
nobody wants to play in brooklyn rn 😂 love the shoutout for how cute carroll gardens is lmao but at almost every home game there’s gonna be more away fans than nets fans 😔
Didn’t you all say that in 2019
People who cover the NBA refuse to ever acknowledge when players are no longer themselves until it's a year too late. Brook Lopez and Middleton are washed
Jonathan you are kidding. Nets 2 yrs back into home court advantage if they played card right?
Love the Lowe post but I have to disagree with his take on all this. I understand Mikal Bridges isn't a superstar and gonna be the "guy" on the Knicks but he's the last piece they needed to be true contenders. This is coming from a Pacers fan btw who if I had known bridges was actually available I would have been all for my pacers giving up a couple young guys and picks for him because he woulda been our last piece too. Does this mean they're necessarily locks to win the East? No hell Boston is still top dog until further notice but I am well aware that new york is unequivocally the second best team in the east now and those firsts they traded away don't even mean much IMO. What are they gonna do with the 26th pick in the draft the next few years? Because that's how good they're gonna be..so anyways I think this isn't as "clever" a trade for the nets as people make out...if anything they did that was clever it was get their own pick back...idk what the hell the rockets were thinking sending that back to them tbh. But anyway I don't think this move is gonna be as fruitful for the nets as everyone thinks and I very strongly believe the Knicks will be in at least the ECF sometime in the next couple years barring crazy injuries or something. If they move Randle and get back some draft equity or another big man that can shoot kinda piece or something like that then I'd actually say the Knicks had the best off season I could have possibly imagined them having in my mind.
Celtic fan here... So in a vaccum he's right that this many firsts is crazy. BUT when you think about the apron, you think about teams at that second apron... I think this is genius. You're not gonna want back end first round players anyways, and you certainly don't want to pay 9 mil for them and just keep adding to your luxury tax etc. So... if you control your core for the next 4 or so years... might as well go for it. Who cares? You're not losing anything if your the knicks.. you were gonna try to trade those firsts to get seconds anyways.
So at face value, yea bridges for that haul is nuts. But when you factor the business end and the ramifications/realities of the new CBA, I think the knicks are just spearheading a new trend - "almost there" teams who are looking at going over the second apron and saying "f it" lets give our firsts, however many it takes, and secure the team we are gonna roll with for the next 3-5 years.
All that said... I don't think tis enough to beat a HEALTHY Celtics team. I do think it puts the knicks securely in the "formidable" opponent range where nobody would be super surprised if they won... but all in all I think bridges and OG aren't stopping the Jays from doing what they do, and the celtics will still mostly operate how they want. The knicks will have a lot to say about it and the Celtics will have to play to their peak, but at least for next year I got Celtics... Once horford is gone and Jrue is on the decline... then we we can start talking about being truly fearful of the knicks.
Love your comment and the comment made before yours. Shows both of you understand the business side of the New nba
@@nickgilday8946 yeah man thanks for writing all that honestly. I didn't want to go in depth as you did because I don't have the attention span for it lol but a lot of that was also in my mind in regards to the trade. Very happy to hear someone else "getting it". I thought I was alone out here just trying to figure out where Windy hosts his podcasts so I could find like minded individuals lol.
@@edwarddavis9343 yeah I was impressed to see someone else commenting that is knowledgeable of the subject. Usually I get everyday fans that just spew some nonsense about how good they think players are and eventually it turns into a drama of GOAT debate below my original comment that had nothing to do with that lol. Props to this Nick guy 🤘🏻
@@nickgilday8946in a yr they’ll have to move guys bc Randle and Brunson will want big new deals. Same with bridges in 2 yrs. Like there future flexibility isn’t actually that great. They went all in for 1-2 yr stretch and they’re not even favorites
Im confused why givony is talking about rob as a point guard. He cant run the 1 or guard the 1 and did neither good all year
The way he describes the nets is so funny 😂 they have sucked since Jason Kidd and Vince Carter left
If the Knicks get their hands on a big that can stretch the floor, the Celtics better be on point when they meet in the ECF
Lmao
Easier said than done. Also, just being big and being able to stretch the floor isn't enough. They also need to do the things you need bigs to do defensively. Channing Frye doesn't help you. Porzingis does (good luck with that).
@@josephrafferty6763 you sound like you’re coping
@@pimpnamedslickback7780 ?
@@josephrafferty6763 you sound like you’re coping
Rob cant replace mike conley. They arent the same position
Zach looks like he couldve been a. Double for better call saul
My dude chocking of Eddy it’s pretty funny how passionate he is lol
Btw Zach we (Croatia) are out of Euro. Our team came yesterday in Zagreb.
Kinda hard to believe Sean Marks is doing a good job. A lot of evidence out there that he's an idiot
Villanova Voltron😂
Why is everyone missing the important details. It isn’t just 5 first-round picks for Mikal, it’s 5 first-round picks and a 35 year old in order to get a young up-coming star from your crosstown rival without giving up any of your young core. Timberwolves traded 5 picks and 4 players for Gobert. Suns traded 3 players and 5 picks for Durant. Cavs traded 5 picks and 3 players for d Mitch. The Knicks traded 5 picks and 1 aging star to keep their depth and get a player with better shooting and defense.
Teams who are at the aprons or about to jump into second are going to start emulating this idea - All those teams are trying to get rid of their firsts anyways, why not convert them into a core player. Yes that many firsts is too much for bridges in a vaccum, but when you look at it from the full picture - where the knicks are, what they need to truly compete with Celtics/contend, and the realities of the CBA... This is a great move.
I'm a Celtics fan so take it with a grain of salt, but I don't think its enough to beat the Celtics at least next year. Both these teams have now put their feet in the mud so to speak.. Neither team will change significantly over the next 4 years or so. I think once horford retires and Jrue starts to decline, that scale might tip in favor of the knicks. Will be fun to watch.
lol that Givony said Risacher is 8'11". that would be quite something 😂
Wemby and Giannis paring would be fantastic. Plus, Spurs probably have 10 first round picks.
David Stern would come back from the grave to veto this trade lol
I never question the Spurs, a phenomenal organization.
Keeping popovich too long
Brian Wright has done nothing to inspire confidence.
Yeah cause they haven’t hit on everyone of their drafts. Stop pretending Brian is working alone. RC is in the room, Pop is in the room, freaking Tim Duncan is in the room. The Spurs aren’t one person they are an organization. Brian doesn’t make decisions on his own
Spurs fans know we are all stupid compare to the front office the spurs have. Real spurs fans know to never have any doubt in our organization. That’s what being a spurs fan is
Where would they be had they not lucked into Wemby
If all the internet chatter is true, idk how Givony can downplay the Flip girlfriend situation.
Yeah internet chatter is always true right? How can we believe this story after Josh Giddey got portrayed as a predator based on nba twitter alone
1) I said "if".
2) There's clearly something off about the situation since he fell to the 2nd round, and teams are talking about that being part of the reasoning.
Nets should move to Seattle
I respect Jonathan rocking the standing desk but everytime he's talking on screen, it looks like there's another earthquake in NYC
Knicks your time is on For a Championship 🏆 in the next 2 or 3 year window cause Contracts are Coming up For knights Player's
Yes Zach, it has been very tough life as a Nets fan. Hopes and nopes is what we’re used to.
Durant is AT BEST a top 13, and that is with him being 13
In no order
1-5 MJ, Wilt, Kareem, LeBron, Magic
6-10 Bird, Duncan, Shaq, Hakeem, Russell
11/12 Kobe/Curry
Its KD greater than Bill Russell, or Big O, or Dr J, or Moses Malone, or West, or Ish Thomas or Giannis, or Jokic or Dirk?
I would day no
ESPN is terrible now
It has always been terrible.
😂….Cobble Hill & Carroll Gardens. Used to live in Cobble Hill. And just to be clear, there used to be a buzz in NYC about….say the Yanks in the Neter days. There is no “buzz” in NYC about anything anymore bc it’s a lifeless façade of a city now. 💯
9:00 mark
"The Knicks were the team the Celtics feared the most"
Excuse me??? I know you need to filibuster to fill up an hour show, but enough of the word vomit and outright lies
Zach is so much more pleasant to watch than Windy. Windy is very condescending and full of himself. Zach has way better energy.
Knicks can't win w/i durable bigs. IH is gone. They need more ball handlers who can consistently breakdown defense.
I love how 2 fake titles makes Durant a "top 12/15 at worst all time great"...
I said I love it? I meant I hate it
The rockets got 10 players that play the 2/3/4 that they invested money or high picks in they need to consolidate talent to maximize it b4 they all gone
Im confused why givony is talking about rob as a point guard. He cant run the 1 or guard the 1 and did neither good all year
If the Knicks get over the second apron but end up with bad record do the picks they traded still get moved to the end of the first round?
Is Zach trolling about liking the trade of pick 8 for a 2031 first?
Great show! First time watching, and a novice NBA fan, really enjoyed this.
Cam Johnson would be great for the Spurs!
Givony looks like he’s tweaking with his standing desk lol
As a nets fan, I have indeed needed therapy due to the last 12 years😂😭
Tanking for cooper Flagg is wild
1:14:12 Givony from the top rope😂😂😂😂
Imagine how much money they are paying to bridges and OG 😂😂that’s insaneeee
This year a combined $59m roughly.
Why are the most gifted humans the most ungrateful? Exodus 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain....and folk wonder why lousy stuff in their lives happens?
People forget they got jason terry too and how big kg and pierce are as names and how good they still were at the time and how much they still had left to play...still a bad trade but if brook stays healthy that team takes the 2014 heat 7 games....
Knicks
Congratulations you actually made some smart moves and you definitely surpassed the sixers and the bucks on depth.
Bridges- at this point you could say bridges is probably your SG id say he is a top 10 SG in the NBA . Premier defender who can guard 1-3. This protects brunson on def. He has improved his scoring I think he may be underrated there not saying he is a #1 but, you get a younger jrue Holiday type
Not as much of a play maker but has more size.
OG Annunoby
Not sure I think he is a 200 mill player. But he could turn out to be your second best player on the team. Athletic can defend shoot and has developed a better handle to help the offensive tempo and flow. Both he and bridges fit the def mentality of the head coach. Id rather have him at 200 mill than say PG13 going forward because he is the better defender and although PG can score between the 2-3 position there are at least 12 players id rather have be my leading or second leading scorer so I like the timeline of the two wings.
Randle and Robinson
I think healthy the Knicks don't have better offensive threats than Tatum or brown but you could slow them down now and play a team based off with only one lead scorer and everyone else plays off him. Randle definitely need guys besides brunson who could relieve the pressure of scoring in the playoffs now you have two wings to help and Robinson now becomes trade bate. Hartiensteien played well obviously he will probably go somewhere else for more $ but id look to see if they can maybe move off Robinson bring him back . Possibly you could now move off randle.
I give the Knicks an A for off-season moves
Kel el isnt a center now?
Dalton Connect (Knecht). Every German speaker is dying laughing. 🤣🤣
Paul George to spurs.
Shocking the world 😅
Looks like Givony was standing up through the pod
The rockets had 6.5 young assets...tate is something
Nets have a ton of picks now though and still some guys to trade
God is Good
The Celtics did not and do not fear the Knicks whatsoever lmao they’re not winning nothing with Brunson as their best player
Because Defense matters
Sorry Zach...
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Anf, Sharpe, Deni, Ayton, clingan starting lineup will be very big and very interesting for Portland. They might not be that bad especially if Scoot gets better or Anf stays
If everything goes perfect they will be 13th in the West.
I see Quickley in the kid the Wolves got.
Would be great for the Wolves. They say he is like Lou Williams/Jamal Crawford
NFL 1ST ROUND PICKS HAVE WAAAY MORE VALUE THAN NBA 1ST RD PICKS BECAUSE THE NBA IS BUST HEAVY W/ 1 AND DONES SO THOSE 5 LATE 1st RD PICKS THE NYK GAVE UP IS VIRTUALLY WORTHLESS & THE MORE THEY WIN THE MORE THE PICKS STINK. THE KNICKS ARE PLAYING CHESS, LET THE PICKS GO WHILE THEY STILL HAVE VALUE. TOP TEAMS GET SHITTY PICKS. 👀
Case in point the Detroit Pistons, Charlotte Hornets, and Washington Wizards. All these teams basically live in the lottery and have set up residency.
@@liferealgood NOW those picks are worth something! It's just too bad they squander it, Rinse cycle repeat. I'm just glad the NYK no longer live there because we have a grown up running the show. NO NBA2K, NO FANTASY LEAGUE.
We literally see 5 first round QBs a year become bust
"Knicks went all in picking up Bridges" 😂
WAIT TILL THE SUCKERS REALIZE THOSE PICKS ARE WORTHLESS THE MORE THE KNICKS WIN 👀😎
All in but have a deep squad and 5 picks in the next three drafts
@@tariqs4357 "suckers" 😂
@@rafybass11 ok 4th seed Knicks
@@evsr6084 HIT DOG HAS HOLLERED 👏🏽CHECKMATE SUCKER!♟ 😎
Atlanta makes their #1 selection and ESPN doesn't want to talk about it. Typical sports media
No one cares about Risacher. He is widely considered pretty underwhelming even relative to the "bad draft." Also bro, it's Atlanta.
They talked about Risacher relative to Bridges. What should they talk about, how Atlanta is trying to unload Young and/or Murray and nobody wants them?
Givony bringing up high school 3 pt % is eye opening scouts are even considering it the line is further back in NBA
He is just bringing it up to say he has shooting touch. If you have touch you can practice distance.
New Yorkers always vastly overestimate how much players want to play in their city. Who wants to pay crazy taxes and have every person on the street harass you over losses?
Thank you guys for actually talking about the draft and everyone in it and not talking about the lakers and bronny for an hour straight. Dropping a like and a sub just for that
WWIII is around the corner. The Knicks going all in on this next season gives us the chance to be the last Champs... ever. All future picks could be irrelevant. 🤷🏿♂️
Zach ranted for the first 10 minutes... have a conversation with your guest!
Were gonna watch a lot of Avdija-Clingan lobs
Paul george should just get a ring w Boston
Derek white>paul George
@@ouli4586racist
George loves money and doesn't care about winning playoff games
New York wins ONE playoff series in the last twenty years or whatever it is. And one could argue that injuries played a big role in this victory. Anyway, because they won ONE playoff series, we are all going to have to hear all summer long how the Knicks are championship contenders. Amazing!
(Note: Tommy T is going to have to show that he doesn't just squeeze his players to death to overachieve for a year or two. Right now, there is no evidence that it is going to be any different. Look at the minutes he played his guys in the playoff. I am not surprised the Knicks overachieved last year. I am not surprised at all. Now what would surprise me is if he built a real, long-term (3-5 years) contender. In fact, I would be shocked if he did this)
Do you watch basketball? They won the first round in the last two years and they only lost to the Pacers due to injuries. They were depleted.
You’re just repeating what you heard someone else say. Half the team was hurt, somebody had to play the minutes. He used what he had, and did pretty well considering the circumstances. If the Knicks manage to stay healthy this season they will be in the conference finals minimum
You couldn’t be more wrong. They beat the Sixers this postseason and the Cavs the postseason prior. Also both teams were dealing with injuries in the first round. Embiid was hurt but the Knicks didn’t have Randle or Bogan. Then they were 2-0 or 2-1 on the Pacers before OG injury. Series easily could’ve been over in six if OG didn’t get hurt.
@liferealgood Good point about the earlier victories. It just felt like 20 years. I hear what you are saying. But I still think there is a motivation for the knicks to be good that creeps in. As a result, we are going to be told that they are a championship level team. Is the overachieve narrative wrong? Is that not what we saw in large part?
Brunson shooting 30 times a game has a half life, no? Teams will figure that out? What do they have after that? Maybe if Randall comes back, they will have a second option player who can create his own shot. That is till not a lot.
Maybe answer this question for me. Why are people convinced that Knicks are better than say---I don't know--the Pacers. Have they shown us they are or is there simply an outsized reaction to the Knicks?
The Duke Center Filipowski story is wild. Mormon brainwashed and groomed by older mormon gf to cut off his own family and now drafted by Utah - incredible story. Poor guy - she isn't even that hot
I get what you're saying, but her hotness is irrelevant. If the story's true, she's a predator who groomed a teenager, indoctrinated him into a belief system, and alienated him from his family. She could be the hottest person ever and it would be equally repugnant.
It’s literally a rumor. People fall out with their family over many things. They choose to believe it was his girlfriend.
@@jackiemoon5906 The prom age thing is at least suggestive of something very problematic.