I do miss the pulse graphs though... I used to compare them because I only pulsed for 1-2 secs, and the drop across that 5 second pulse could vary quite a bit between two similar batteries..... For example: Batt.A might initially sag to 3.6V, and quickly drop (in a linear fashion) to 3.3v over the 5 seconds, while Batt.B, despite also initially sagging to 3.6V, might decrease _logarithmically_ to 3.3V, mostly retaining that 3.6v for the first 2 seconds (which matters to me), before sharply crashing to 3.3v during the last 3 seconds (Which wouldn't matter to me). I really just wanted to show that there is at least *_some_* unique usefulness to be had from those old pulse graphs. (At least for the first 3 or 4 pulses.)
On behalf of the entire vaping community I thank you for putting all of this out there and for constantly testing new batteries and for teaching us about battery safety. All hail Mooch!
Great video. Very thorough. I’m glad you mentioned the longevity of the cells at the very end. From my research, the 30Q really is the best 3000mAh/15A (20A) battery when comparing the overall results. The VTC6 suffers a significant capacity loss after 50 cycles. Because the VTC5A has such a solid reputation, due to bias, many just stick with the brand when seeking a 3000mAh version. I think the 30Q is a magnificent performer.
Excellent video, thank you. That is a whole lot easier to understand May I make a suggestion? Make a excel spreadsheet of all of the results in future, and make it downloadable, That way everyone can then simply use the file and sort the batteries into whichever order that they wanted, as per which spec is the most important to them - internal resistance, voltage sag, watt hour at 10A & 15A
From someone who has always declared a complete lack of battery knowledge and understanding, I must say that I did understand this completely. WELL DONE, Mooch!! And big thanks. :)
You are a superlative teacher. I learn so, so, SO much from you. Years ago, when I first started following you, I had several moments of true panic as I realized how dangerous these batteries are, ESPECIALLY when buying from shady places on the internet. I immediately threw all of my "purple efest" batteries of unknown origin out and started buying from one of your recommended sources. And now I take everything I absorb from you out into the world to my friends and family to make sure we all stay as safe and informed as possible. Thank you for everything you do for the community!
Thanks for everything you do for the community brother. It's imperative that this information gets shared and spread. Again thank you for all the time you take from your life to help others
Mooch you are the most Trusted guy in vaping to date , either on UA-cam or online forums, Even though you do not do reviews or such An have only just started your own UA-cam channel. but your knowledge and input has been the best for every new old an in-between vaper, you have saved so many people from potential mishaps with there mods and cells a big Thank you , 👍👍
Mooch you don't know how much I appreciate you making it easier for me to understand batteries! It is very interesting to see you break it down like you do thanks man I'm excited to learn more!
You know you're a gentleman and a scholar when you create your own battery benchmarking system to cut through all the manufacturers marketing bullshit to give the people the real relevant numbers. You sir are a hero.
Thank you very much for putting these videos up! The way you present the information is very well done. Simplified enough for us dummies out here but still informative enough that all vapers should watch these videos, regardless of knowledge or experience.
Iv been using hg2s for a while now, I dont really go above 68 watts but overall I am happy with longevity of a fully charged cell as well as performance, i can see if you were using a single cell device how sony or samsung would be a better choice, once I retire my hg2’s I will deffinitly try another type of 18650 as per your data suggests, thx mooch!! Keep it up, I hope your enjoying making the content as much as the community is enjoying watching and learning from you, truly I am grateful for your knowledge.
another perfect video mooch. I swear I feel like u r talking directly to me when you make these videos, I know you arent, but, always answering all my exact questions. thanx for all u do mooch
Thanks for all the work you’re putting in and for these very informative test results. I would really like to see you make a video about the LiPo cells we use in vaping and when they should be replaced, etc. It would also be very helpful if you could discuss when we should be retiring 18650 cells, etc.
Wonderfully clear explanation of the factors to consider when choosing our batteries thanks Mooch. I like that you also include the initial cost and life cycle of the cells in your considerations. Will certainly be interested in your longevity results in due course!
Another great vid mooch. I love how u go over everything on the white board nd use graphs, it really helps me to understand what ur talking about. All of this info is priceless. Thankyou.
Great vid mooch, your reminding me how much I enjoyed physics at school when I was a pup. Amazing how we forget stuff we don't always use. Thanx for the info and keep it coming :)
Thank you, Mooch! It is totally awesome you made it clear mAh capacity has nothing common with voltage. it is really not that apparent fact! You're great! as for HG2 i always thought it is 2500mah battery (my measurements are (on avearge): 30Q - 3020mAh, VTC6 - 3080mAh, HG2 - 2600mAh, VTC5A - 2550mAh)
Thanks for the video and time saved. I just post your links as it saves troll arguments that start with a question then after answered , the person who has probably never tested a single battery in their life, wants to argue with someone who has been testing for 33 years. SMH. Thanks again for time saved because if they don't hear it from you the info is not correct .
Thanks Mooch. Keep our minds thinking about vape variables. Sony VTC6's were the first set I bought when I got a mod w/o internal battery in Sept '17. They have been well cared for & your instructions are being followed. A safer vape starts with understanding what vaping is. Would you mind getting a degree in Flavor Compounding to help resolve dicetyl issues and such. I'm starting to DIY eliquids and weed such things out.
Another incredibly informative video. That's amazing that you've done this much work into battery research and the really important stuff that the Ohm's law is just not enough to figure out, and I'm just hearing about it. When I first started vaping no one asked me what kind of coil I was looking for what wattage I was going to be using or what amperage of battery I needed. I followed the instructions in the manual that came with the mod it's a "regulated" mod but over the last four now 5 videos I've learned that the pamphlet Inside the Box may have been a generic pamphlet because it's not making as much sense as you are. Keep it up, just wish I knew this before I bought all those batteries. Thanks a bunch Mooch and keep making the videos
hello mooch you are a great teacher people should b very proud that you take your time to help orders to know about batteries so they don't hurt themselves cos DARES loads of people out there that haven.t a clue they think that they can put a battery in a mech mod and vape all day long then they wonder why it blows up on dem you are a savior for dem b proud of what you DO CANT THANK YOU ENOUGH SO KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MOOCH☺☺☺☻☻♥♥♦♣♠
A great video again Mooch Thenk You, I Like the Sony VTC6 in my mods running at around 100w, I find the Samsung 30Q seems to run out of power sooner, I have a set of LG HG2s and was a bit disappoinrted with them and I get low battery warning about 2/3 of the way through a cycle as the vaoltage got closer to 3.5v a lot sooner than either of the others. I ran the LGs at around 70w and they just about hold up, at much lower wattages they are still fine
Awesome video, thanks Mooch!! I'm looking forward to your results on longest life involving discharge cycles. I use regulated mods and have been using HG2s for years with great results. I'm excited to see how they compare, though, as I've got 2 year old HG2s that seems to perform just as well as new HG2s.
thank you Mooch for all your hard work!! i appreciate everything you do for the vape community. fantastic job. really impressed with the thorough explanations. looking forward to the next one. thanks for keeping us safe :D
I'm loving the videos mooch thanks for another great one, they are always loaded with a huge amount of great information, keep up the great work and a huge thank you for what you do for The Vaping community!
I look forward to every video you post. I have been learning so much more than I thought I knew about cells. I am curious if you recommend that I not fire a dual 18650 regulated mod below 2.5 volts or something more like 2.75 volts as a rule of thumb? I am a low wattage subohm vaper and usually build a .2 ohm single coil N80 and 40W at about 3V is my go to but is it bad for the cells for me to vape at any lower wattage on this build? Thanks again for your time Mooch. Looking forward to the next one.
The display shows you the output voltage of the regulator unless there is a separate battery voltage display. You can use the coils at any voltage that fits they way you want to vape. A regulated mod should refuse to fire at around 3.2V for each battery. Check the manual for your particular mod.
Great video. Watt Hours are definitely a better way to judge battery performance than amps and mAhs. I look forward to seeing more of these shootout videos. I can also see having this kind of information in the minds (and wallets) of consumers should encourage manufacturers to produce better batteries with lower internal resistances/chemistry. I think for the most part they have been relying on consumers being ignorant of how batteries rate against each other and hoping that printing ridiculous performance numbers on the wraps will cause your average Joe to just buy it. This is performance accountability.
Great comparison, bud. I'm a sony fan since the tamiya days, no wonder they have the best batts in the market. ;-) Btw, is toshiba also makes 18650 or no longer operating? There batts are realible too back in the day.
Thank you so much sir, another amazing piece! Where would the vapers be without you, you're a legend. This means so much for us whom want to understand better exactly how things are working. My sincerest gratitude Mooch
Another great video, Mooch! I'm about to buy a single 18650 battery boro mod and I want it to last as long as possible so, which would be better: a 0.1 ohm coil or a 0.5 ohm coil? I make my own coils so I can craft what I need to... If u have any particular suggestion I mean.😅 *** And I'm more in to flavor so the vapor production it's not a problem for me.
Hey mooch. First, you have no idea how much I appreciate the fact that you actually reply so quickly and honestly. Next, I have an IJOY Captain PD270 that was given to me with 2 20700 IJOY batteries but one is a 5 leg and one is a 4 leg. Should I dump these and get 2 fresh 5s or 4s? The mod and the batteries are new.
My head hurts after trying to absorb that awesome presentation. 🤔 Need to go take my meds.😜 Thanks for another mind filling lesson but I hope there is not a final exam at the end of this series. 🙏. All joking aside, this reinforces my precautions and direction of my quest for both efficiency and performance during my ‘Vape Journey’, much thanks agian. 👍🏻👍🏻
Moochie your videos are mo' better. Love to learn more about my batteries and getting more familiar with them. Thank you for taking your time to teach all of us. I have a lot more info because of your videos and reddit threads. Knowledge is power. I thought the Sony Vtc6 and Samsung 30Q were 15 amp batteries? Are they a 20 amp batteries?
i am so glad you started putting out videos... Very useful information in the vaping world. Just a thought, any way you could do a clone video, how to tell if you have real or fake sony vtc5a's or other batteries. thanks bud!
this is beautiful, it was hard for me to go back and forth between posts on ECF to understand things, putting it together in videos is amazing, thank you Mooch, and is Liion wholesale a vendor that you would use as a supplier?
Great information, thanks! I recently purchased a high intensity flashlight that recommended 3000mah batteries but wondered how they stacked up. This video answered that question. You mentioned you might follow up later with a summary of performance after many cycles. Will you be posting those results soon?
Thanks for the great info, I have both the LG HG2 & Sony VTC6 (two sets of each), have yet to use the latter.....yet the LG HG2 is a dang good battery. I never allow mine to discharge below 3.7V, has been recharged many times & unlike some others I have, the performance is still there! Love your UA-cam channel, hope to learn more about batteries.;-)
Another great video. It is really hard to compare batteries from the figure when there are multiple of them performing on multiple A levels. Now all we need to is to calculate our average A usage then look at respective values. However, I still cannot tell the impact of Vsag and Wh combined. Maybe you can come up with a proportional equation to calculate overall efficiency regarding these two values. E.g. Battery Quotient= 3.Wh - 2.Vsag. With this quotient, I can calculate which battery suits me best for my A usage. Thank you
I am really interested in seeing how the cells perform after some cycling. Have you managed to finish the testing you mentioned in the video? From the datasheets it seems the VTC6 might be the worst performer while the HG2 could jump to the top. I would really love to know the truth.
The cycle life testing? No. It’s been interrupted several times. I have a P26A/VTC5A cycle life shootout going on now and then hope to restart the 3000mAh shootout. It will take a couple of months to finish though.
Another great video Mooch! I enjoyed that, and the new testing information is great! 👍😃🤘
I do miss the pulse graphs though... I used to compare them because I only pulsed for 1-2 secs, and the drop across that 5 second pulse could vary quite a bit between two similar batteries.....
For example: Batt.A might initially sag to 3.6V, and quickly drop (in a linear fashion) to 3.3v over the 5 seconds, while Batt.B, despite also initially sagging to 3.6V, might decrease _logarithmically_ to 3.3V, mostly retaining that 3.6v for the first 2 seconds (which matters to me), before sharply crashing to 3.3v during the last 3 seconds (Which wouldn't matter to me).
I really just wanted to show that there is at least *_some_* unique usefulness to be had from those old pulse graphs. (At least for the first 3 or 4 pulses.)
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If my teachers in school had been like you I would have actually paid attention. Your method is teachingis top notch man
If only your teachers were teaching you how to vape.... haha
I teach...Mooch is untrained as a teacher, but better than many I've worked with ;)
On behalf of the entire vaping community I thank you for putting all of this out there and for constantly testing new batteries and for teaching us about battery safety. All hail Mooch!
You and DIY ejuice channels are THE BEST contributors to this community. Content like this puts people like RIP to shame
Great video. Very thorough. I’m glad you mentioned the longevity of the cells at the very end. From my research, the 30Q really is the best 3000mAh/15A (20A) battery when comparing the overall results. The VTC6 suffers a significant capacity loss after 50 cycles. Because the VTC5A has such a solid reputation, due to bias, many just stick with the brand when seeking a 3000mAh version. I think the 30Q is a magnificent performer.
Excellent video, thank you.
That is a whole lot easier to understand
May I make a suggestion? Make a excel spreadsheet of all of the results in future, and make it downloadable, That way everyone can then simply use the file and sort the batteries into whichever order that they wanted, as per which spec is the most important to them - internal resistance, voltage sag, watt hour at 10A & 15A
Vape community king is back! Everyone who wants to vape should watch mooch videos
From someone who has always declared a complete lack of battery knowledge and understanding, I must say that I did understand this completely. WELL DONE, Mooch!! And big thanks. :)
You are a superlative teacher. I learn so, so, SO much from you. Years ago, when I first started following you, I had several moments of true panic as I realized how dangerous these batteries are, ESPECIALLY when buying from shady places on the internet. I immediately threw all of my "purple efest" batteries of unknown origin out and started buying from one of your recommended sources. And now I take everything I absorb from you out into the world to my friends and family to make sure we all stay as safe and informed as possible. Thank you for everything you do for the community!
This helps me confirm that the VTC6's I got last fall were the right choice to replace my 18+ month old HG2's
Joshatdot they're great batteries for sure. I just got a pair of 30 Q's and they have been amazing as well.
Solid explanation and video here Mooch.
Your efforts for the community is appreciated, hope you know that!
Thumbs up.
Mooch, your unsurpassable ability to clearly convey complex concepts so succinctly is thoroughly appreciated. Muchos thankos!
Again I hate that the video ends. I love your work. Thanks for all you do!
You are doing a HUGE server for the community! Thank you for that
Thanks for everything you do for the community brother. It's imperative that this information gets shared and spread. Again thank you for all the time you take from your life to help others
Mooch you are the most Trusted guy in vaping to date , either on UA-cam or online forums,
Even though you do not do reviews or such
An have only just started your own UA-cam channel.
but your knowledge and input has been the best for every new old an in-between vaper,
you have saved so many people from potential mishaps with there mods and cells a big
Thank you , 👍👍
Been using your charts for the longest man. Youre one of the biggest assets to the industry, glad we have you to educate us man 😀
Mooch you don't know how much I appreciate you making it easier for me to understand batteries! It is very interesting to see you break it down like you do thanks man I'm excited to learn more!
You know you're a gentleman and a scholar when you create your own battery benchmarking system to cut through all the manufacturers marketing bullshit to give the people the real relevant numbers.
You sir are a hero.
Mooch you're the only person I rely on for all my battery information and I thank you sir for all you do theses vids have been a god send.
You're amazing... Been following your blog for yearS now. :) Thanks for sharing your knowledge, experience & time!!! LIVE LONG(er) & VAPE ON!
Mooch... your still going strong... thank you for the information you are the battery info god lol... we need more people like you in the community
Thank you very much for putting these videos up! The way you present the information is very well done. Simplified enough for us dummies out here but still informative enough that all vapers should watch these videos, regardless of knowledge or experience.
Thanks Mooch! I don’t know what we would do without you. Trust the battery wraps? Lol. Great video and you explained it well.
This guy is truly a genius and super at explaining things so even the not so smartest people can understand it. Thanks!
Iv been using hg2s for a while now, I dont really go above 68 watts but overall I am happy with longevity of a fully charged cell as well as performance, i can see if you were using a single cell device how sony or samsung would be a better choice, once I retire my hg2’s I will deffinitly try another type of 18650 as per your data suggests, thx mooch!! Keep it up, I hope your enjoying making the content as much as the community is enjoying watching and learning from you, truly I am grateful for your knowledge.
another perfect video mooch. I swear I feel like u r talking directly to me when you make these videos, I know you arent, but, always answering all my exact questions. thanx for all u do mooch
Thanks for all the work you’re putting in and for these very informative test results. I would really like to see you make a video about the LiPo cells we use in vaping and when they should be replaced, etc. It would also be very helpful if you could discuss when we should be retiring 18650 cells, etc.
Another informative lesson by #ProfessorMooch 👊🏼 Thank you for your time and effort 🤗
👍🏼👏🏼
Thank you for another great video filled with "don't blow yourself up" information. Most comprehensive battery videos out there!
Wonderfully clear explanation of the factors to consider when choosing our batteries thanks Mooch. I like that you also include the initial cost and life cycle of the cells in your considerations. Will certainly be interested in your longevity results in due course!
Thank you so much Mooch! I am learning so much from you. Please keep these coming!
Thank you Mooch for another great battery lesson. We appreciate so much your help. Have a great day!!
Another great vid mooch. I love how u go over everything on the white board nd use graphs, it really helps me to understand what ur talking about. All of this info is priceless. Thankyou.
Great vid mooch, your reminding me how much I enjoyed physics at school when I was a pup. Amazing how we forget stuff we don't always use. Thanx for the info and keep it coming :)
Thank you, Mooch!
It is totally awesome you made it clear mAh capacity has nothing common with voltage. it is really not that apparent fact! You're great!
as for HG2 i always thought it is 2500mah battery (my measurements are (on avearge): 30Q - 3020mAh, VTC6 - 3080mAh, HG2 - 2600mAh, VTC5A - 2550mAh)
Thanks for the video and time saved. I just post your links as it saves troll arguments that start with a question then after answered , the person who has probably never tested a single battery in their life, wants to argue with someone who has been testing for 33 years. SMH.
Thanks again for time saved because if they don't hear it from you the info is not correct .
I see you're getting more and more comfortable in front of the camera, Mooch. That is great! And, as always, very good and infomative video
Another great video, very informative and easily digestible. As always, thank you for the continued work you're doing to help this community.
Thanks Mooch. Keep our minds thinking about vape variables. Sony VTC6's were the first set I bought when I got a mod w/o internal battery in Sept '17. They have been well cared for & your instructions are being followed. A safer vape starts with understanding what vaping is. Would you mind getting a degree in Flavor Compounding to help resolve dicetyl issues and such. I'm starting to DIY eliquids and weed such things out.
Awesome info for the newbie and veteran Vaper alike.
New "stats" are very usefull
Keep em coming man, thanx
Are you planning on testing battery chargers? Thanks for the videos Mooch.
No time. :-)
Perhaps in the future.
Thanks man you really helped me in picking my first 18650s. I would rather have greater longevity and sacrifice a bit of power. 30Q for me. :)
Again, thankyou Sir for doing these videos. I can’t believe how much I’m learning from you 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thanks Mooch great video as always! thanks for what you're doing for us in the vape community
Another incredibly informative video. That's amazing that you've done this much work into battery research and the really important stuff that the Ohm's law is just not enough to figure out, and I'm just hearing about it. When I first started vaping no one asked me what kind of coil I was looking for what wattage I was going to be using or what amperage of battery I needed. I followed the instructions in the manual that came with the mod it's a "regulated" mod but over the last four now 5 videos I've learned that the pamphlet Inside the Box may have been a generic pamphlet because it's not making as much sense as you are. Keep it up, just wish I knew this before I bought all those batteries. Thanks a bunch Mooch and keep making the videos
Thanks again Mooch. Your linear and simple explanations are great. keep on rocking
hello mooch you are a great teacher people should b very proud that you take your time to help orders to know about batteries so they don't hurt themselves cos DARES loads of people out there that haven.t a clue they think that they can put a battery in a mech mod and vape all day long then they wonder why it blows up on dem you are a savior for dem b proud of what you DO CANT THANK YOU ENOUGH SO KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MOOCH☺☺☺☻☻♥♥♦♣♠
Great video Mooch. I like the way you explain the data in "laymens" terms.
Great video mooch thanks for all your hard work that you do for this community . we’re would we be without mooch🙏🏼 . vape on ✌🏼
Pleasant surprise. Didn't know you were doing videos now. Excellent!
WHOO HOO I understood this one first time. Thank you for all you do and please keep up with the reviews.
You nail it yet again ... looking forward to the next one already !
Mooch delivers yet again.
You're the best Mr Mooch.
A great video again Mooch Thenk You, I Like the Sony VTC6 in my mods running at around 100w, I find the Samsung 30Q seems to run out of power sooner, I have a set of LG HG2s and was a bit disappoinrted with them and I get low battery warning about 2/3 of the way through a cycle as the vaoltage got closer to 3.5v a lot sooner than either of the others. I ran the LGs at around 70w and they just about hold up, at much lower wattages they are still fine
Awesome video, thanks Mooch!! I'm looking forward to your results on longest life involving discharge cycles. I use regulated mods and have been using HG2s for years with great results. I'm excited to see how they compare, though, as I've got 2 year old HG2s that seems to perform just as well as new HG2s.
thank you Mooch for all your hard work!! i appreciate everything you do for the vape community. fantastic job. really impressed with the thorough explanations. looking forward to the next one. thanks for keeping us safe :D
I'm loving the videos mooch thanks for another great one, they are always loaded with a huge amount of great information, keep up the great work and a huge thank you for what you do for The Vaping community!
Just found this for building a battery for am electric skateboard. This took me back to college:) somehow a lot more fun here lol
I hope it’s useful enough for you to consider subscribing. 🙂
That's just what I'm looking for!! Thank you once again Mooch :)
Thanks agian Mooch for sharing your knowledge! With you explaining everything in your videos, I've learnt alot. Cheers.
I look forward to every video you post. I have been learning so much more than I thought I knew about cells. I am curious if you recommend that I not fire a dual 18650 regulated mod below 2.5 volts or something more like 2.75 volts as a rule of thumb? I am a low wattage subohm vaper and usually build a .2 ohm single coil N80 and 40W at about 3V is my go to but is it bad for the cells for me to vape at any lower wattage on this build? Thanks again for your time Mooch. Looking forward to the next one.
The display shows you the output voltage of the regulator unless there is a separate battery voltage display. You can use the coils at any voltage that fits they way you want to vape. A regulated mod should refuse to fire at around 3.2V for each battery. Check the manual for your particular mod.
I really enjoy your videos. You've got a lot of information and are a great teacher.
Great video. Watt Hours are definitely a better way to judge battery performance than amps and mAhs. I look forward to seeing more of these shootout videos. I can also see having this kind of information in the minds (and wallets) of consumers should encourage manufacturers to produce better batteries with lower internal resistances/chemistry. I think for the most part they have been relying on consumers being ignorant of how batteries rate against each other and hoping that printing ridiculous performance numbers on the wraps will cause your average Joe to just buy it. This is performance accountability.
GREST video Mooch , wasn’t expecting the outcome of vtc6
Thanks Doc! 😊 Totally got a better understanding of what I'm working with
finally someone explains the area inside the graph. basic Trig, but easier to visualize for most people that way. (inc me ) ha ha thanks.
Wow, very complete explanation. Thank you very much!
Looking forwards to the next episode.
Sir if you've never taught, you should consider it. You're a natural
Glad that you decided to start making videos man!
Liked. Commented ENJOYED! love learning at 330am, before leaving for work. Thanks Mooch! 💯💯✔✔👍👍✋✋
Best explanation of watt hours! Thanks Mooch!
Great comparison, bud. I'm a sony fan since the tamiya days, no wonder they have the best batts in the market. ;-) Btw, is toshiba also makes 18650 or no longer operating? There batts are realible too back in the day.
Your videos are so helpful and reassuring! Thank you for all your hard work!
Thank you so much sir, another amazing piece!
Where would the vapers be without you, you're a legend.
This means so much for us whom want to understand better exactly how things are working.
My sincerest gratitude Mooch
Another great video, Mooch! I'm about to buy a single 18650 battery boro mod and I want it to last as long as possible so, which would be better: a 0.1 ohm coil or a 0.5 ohm coil? I make my own coils so I can craft what I need to... If u have any particular suggestion I mean.😅
*** And I'm more in to flavor so the vapor production it's not a problem for me.
Hey mooch. First, you have no idea how much I appreciate the fact that you actually reply so quickly and honestly. Next, I have an IJOY Captain PD270 that was given to me with 2 20700 IJOY batteries but one is a 5 leg and one is a 4 leg. Should I dump these and get 2 fresh 5s or 4s? The mod and the batteries are new.
They are very different batteries, don’t mix them in the same mod.
I guess I should of watched this first. I just bought a few HG2's. 😂 thanks for the info
There’s not a big difference. The HG2’s should perform well for you. 🙂
B Kopp I just bought 3 for my tri mod.. they work great. But I’m looking at the VTC6 3000 mah to use while I charge my HG2s
Thanks mooch, really appreciate the info, now i get it why my vtc6 died in just 2 mos.
Thank you for your time and effort passing on the info 😗☁️
My head hurts after trying to absorb that awesome presentation. 🤔 Need to go take my meds.😜 Thanks for another mind filling lesson but I hope there is not a final exam at the end of this series. 🙏. All joking aside, this reinforces my precautions and direction of my quest for both efficiency and performance during my ‘Vape Journey’, much thanks agian. 👍🏻👍🏻
Great video again Mooch...thanks for doing these, they really help.
My mom really appreciates your videos. Now i rarely even yell "Mah!" when i need something xDDD
Another excellent video, looking forward to life cycle data. Thank you and when is the Patreon thing getting started?
Great video, i am from denmark and here the vtc6 is cheaper than 30q/hg2
Moochie your videos are mo' better. Love to learn more about my batteries and getting more familiar with them. Thank you for taking your time to teach all of us. I have a lot more info because of your videos and reddit threads. Knowledge is power. I thought the Sony Vtc6 and Samsung 30Q were 15 amp batteries? Are they a 20 amp batteries?
Check my ratings table, link in the description. They can be run at 20A if not allowed to get hot.
Great teaching, thank you Mooch !
Great breakdown mooch. You do great work for our community
i am so glad you started putting out videos... Very useful information in the vaping world. Just a thought, any way you could do a clone video, how to tell if you have real or fake sony vtc5a's or other batteries. thanks bud!
Very informative - thank you so much. These videos are very clear and succinct.
this is beautiful, it was hard for me to go back and forth between posts on ECF to understand things, putting it together in videos is amazing, thank you Mooch, and is Liion wholesale a vendor that you would use as a supplier?
Yes, check the Description for a vendor list.
Great information, thanks! I recently purchased a high intensity flashlight that recommended 3000mah batteries but wondered how they stacked up. This video answered that question. You mentioned you might follow up later with a summary of performance after many cycles. Will you be posting those results soon?
Probably not until this Summer.
Thanks for the great info, I have both the LG HG2 & Sony VTC6 (two sets of each), have yet to use the latter.....yet the LG HG2 is a dang good battery. I never allow mine to discharge below 3.7V, has been recharged many times & unlike some others I have, the performance is still there! Love your UA-cam channel, hope to learn more about batteries.;-)
Thanks again for sharing knowledge, Mr Mooch,. Much appreciated.
Another great video. It is really hard to compare batteries from the figure when there are multiple of them performing on multiple A levels. Now all we need to is to calculate our average A usage then look at respective values. However, I still cannot tell the impact of Vsag and Wh combined. Maybe you can come up with a proportional equation to calculate overall efficiency regarding these two values. E.g. Battery Quotient= 3.Wh - 2.Vsag. With this quotient, I can calculate which battery suits me best for my A usage. Thank you
Really enjoying the videos Mooch......very good, solid info.....keep them coming! Thank you! =)
The Dislikes on your videos obviously come from those using batteries incorrectly! Keep it up Mooch 👊
Mr Mooch Killin it with the YT game! Another helpful, great video! 😉
Thank you for the all the excellent you provide!!!
I am really interested in seeing how the cells perform after some cycling. Have you managed to finish the testing you mentioned in the video? From the datasheets it seems the VTC6 might be the worst performer while the HG2 could jump to the top. I would really love to know the truth.
The cycle life testing? No. It’s been interrupted several times. I have a P26A/VTC5A cycle life shootout going on now and then hope to restart the 3000mAh shootout. It will take a couple of months to finish though.