Navy chief charged with espionage used Google as source
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2024
- A military judge must decide if a Navy chief charged with espionage was simply writing research papers for money or if he committed espionage and betrayed the United States.
I did 20 years in the USAF - there is no such thing as accidently communicating sensitive information to ANYONE who doesn't need to know.
Unless you're tRump and do it while KNOWINGLY being recorded 🙄
Exactly!
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Thank you for your service 💐
Right on Jon 🎉
The NDA non disclosure agreement I signed stated that I could not divulge anything I knew to be classified, even if it appeared in public media. Nor could I confirm or deny the validity of such information.
The Chief screwed the pooch!
Classified is the lowest level 😂
Bingo: "even if it was available to the public elsewhere" is the key. In otherwords, you cannnot CONFIRM the validity.
@@flight2k5 "classified" is NOT a level.
@@thefrustratedtheologian6238 yea it is. Classified, secret, top secret
@@flight2k5 And yet the term classified applies to all three levels you mentioned. You're overthinking this; officials don't go on the news as say "sorry dude, I can't confirm or deny what you're saying because it's Top Secret or Secret." - you know they're just going to say nothing or that it's classified.
Long prison sentence. Dishonorable Discharge, total forfeit.
He messed up royal 😕
Yes, all of what you said and more. He made terrible decision for an American Officer.
The "Big Chicken Dinner"
Chief, what were you thinking?
TRAITOR
As a prior Navy Chief, give him life in maximum security. Imagine giving the enemy documents on systems designed to PROTECT the Sailors on your ship. This is why Chiefs are losing authority, our authority comes from our trust and reliability. Bad apples like this need to be screened before advancement!
divulging our national secrets? sounds like someone else we all know who worked in govt.
I can think of 2. Ones in prison where they belong
"When the president does it, that means it's not illegal" -Richard Nixon
Apparently if they declassified by the wave of their hand with no one in the room, that's good enough. Strange times indeed.
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Bro, that's literally hundreds of people.
Trump! He spilled the beans of our nuclear submarines to the world, directly to Kim Jong Un
I bet this guy gets more punishment than you-know-who.
Traitor
The word carries less meaning since Cheeto Jesus showed up.
@@user-hp1gk4jj5e TDS! drink!!
Disgusting behavior
Just like Trump
I thought treason meant your life.
Was his wife a part of this too?
For the layperson, Life in prison or "life sentence" is typically 20-25 years in every country around the world for the last century. You have access to internet and verify this information yourself for USA, Canada, France, U.K., Singapore, Chine, Taiwan, Germany, etc. You must be thinking of "Life in Prison without the possibility of parole" which is a different sentence. Laypeople often confuse the two, attorneys and governments understand the difference.
@@rfarevalono, you are equating civilian crimes with UCMJ. Life in prison for UCMJ is actually life in prison. There is no time off for good behavior and there is not 1/3rd / 2/3rd rule. This is UCMJ. The rules are very different.
most espionage cases yes. this one who knows. I think the point (besides getting attention) is to put a narrative of the faithful loyal wife because it looks pretty obvious that he did the deed
For treason to get you the death penalty, you have to be caught doing it by two witnesses.
He is a chief and should have known better, and he done it eight times
There’s a reason doctors tell patients not to look up their symptoms on google.
why not?
@@robertchandler2124 “the chief used Google as a source”. I was being sarcastic. Usually when you tell the doctor you looked up your symptoms on Google. They’ll usually give you the response don’t look your symptoms up on google and roll their eyes.
That's why I use Bing....
Dude will be busted down and sent to Leavenworth. If he's not, then we have a major malfunction within UCMJ and the case as it's been reported.
Like the former President…??? Another Traitor getting off on getting off
There's more traitors to be found!
Dude is just a patsy if an anything at all.
Sad! So many people want to be in this country, they love the USA and he treats our country like a second choice
Greed!
Life in prison, no question.
For the layperson, Life in prison or "life sentence" is typically 20-25 years in every country around the world for the last century. You have access to internet and verify this information yourself for USA, Canada, France, U.K., Singapore, Chine, Taiwan, Germany, etc. You must be thinking of "Life in Prison without the possibility of parole" which is a different sentence. Laypeople often confuse the two, attorneys and governments understand the difference.
Wow I bet you wouldn’t argue that for a child pedo 😂
I remember when life in prison for treason meant, well, life in prison. It seems to mean less than it did when I was in,
For the layperson, Life in prison or "life sentence" is typically 20-25 years in every country around the world for the last century. You have access to internet and can look it up yourself for USA, Canada, France, U.K., Singapore, Chine, Taiwan, Germany, etc. You must be thinking of "Life in Prison without the possibility of parole" which is a different sentence. Laypeople often confuse the two, attorneys and governments understand the difference.
@@rfarevalo Military courts were different than civilian courts, and military prison (like Leavenworth) used to be an actual threat.
You didn’t get out early because of good behavior.
@@JimsEquipmentShed Bullshit. It has been the standard practice of Military Prisons to reducing sentences for good behavior since World War One. You should question how you come to arrive at the wrong information and why you feel the need to post wrong information. Every prison system in the world knows that you manage prisoners by increasing their sentences and or reducing their sentences. This is a fact of human psychology and public policy in the USA and worldwide.
@@rfarevaloyou're displaying your own ignorance by professing expertise.
These are Federal, NOT state charges.
In the Federal system, even under a defined term, "good" time is nearly impossible. As in a 25yrs sentence means 23 to 25.
And life? Life means life under Federal rules.
Yeah, I know you want to impress people and want to share yourself, but go learn something first...go spend some time working a JAG office or go work alongside A-USAs.
@@JimsEquipmentShedyou are correct.
That is one reason why we state LE on Federal task forces are on Federal task forces. Sentencing. Scares the he** out of defendants.
Plus, of course, Federal search warrants are super easy to get and nobody Fed works very hard😂
You would also be within bounds if you called Aravelo an idiot.
Not advocating crime but how dumb do you have to be to choose being a traitor that has the toughest penalties versus a host of other scams in the internet age?
If guilty send him to jail Gitmo
Send him back to his old country, and take all his money.
U.S.D.B. United States Disciplinary Barracks is in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.
He needs to spend life in prison, no excuses, period.
He'll be in a military prison.
Leavenworth, I'd bet. When I was in the navy, stationed aboard USS Theodore Roosevelt, they kept giving us dirtbags to work for us while they decided what to ultimately do with them. Guess who got stuck with being directly in charge of the morons? Me....one of the was caught deliberately writing bad checks, which made the navy look bad. I don't recall his name, but I can't forget the thing he kept saying every day....until they sent him to Leavenworth for four years, "I ain't goin' to jail". It was his favorite phrase, but it didn't help him any. I'll be pleased to hear this chief get his.
Fast promotions sinks ships.
He made terrible decision for an American Officer. This is so unbecoming of anyone in US military. I can't understand why he would do what he did. Dangerous to our national security.
not a officer
The judge has to think it over while she waits for the Chinese to come up with enough money to convince her to let their spy off the hook.
He had a security clearance. Doesn't matter who he gave the information too. I'm sure he had that talk about dissemination. Him accepting money makes it espionage.
Serve time in Gitmo...... You've embarrassed your shipmates and the USA.
It should be the death penalty.
Stop
We don't do that.
@@billyyank5807actually it’s in the law, last time death was enforced for treason was in the 50s tho
The Federal government has not used the death penalty in 75 years.
It is a thing of the past just like the military draft (50 years).
@@handsomeman-pm9vyThe draft isn't a thing of the past lmao, you still need to register for the draft before you turn 25. We just haven't been in a war that was in that dire of a need for resources since Nam
I tried to get back in the Navy… and this is what they are promoting these days…
I’m in my late 40’s I still wanting to go back in service and this idiot betrays the flag….. this is what they are promoting in the Navy.
dont know about late 40s but air force and navy sometimes will allow u to go back in in your 40s if you have a specialized rate. I thought about it when ukraine kicked off but I was only in engineering and they have no shortage of them ahaha. comms ew intel etc you might have a shot. if not look into MSC. Prime contractors are still hiring and shipyards are making a big push. Sending people to Oz as well to help build there attack subs. Just a thought and good luck]
Life in prison.
Prison will be better than a life outside where you will be kryptonite to any employer.
Not really.
In the oilfield I worked with guys with 3rd degree murder convictions, dishonorable discharges, all sorts.
A lot of places check to see active warrants and that's it.
If driving a company vehicle is involved, they look at driving history.
Companies don't care, don't have the time and money.
It's the bigger corporate jobs that will look that up. Some decent paying blue collar jobs don't. Nobody wants those jobs anymore, so, it's easy to get into them. Guys in their 20s today aren't really competing for them like they used to.
We all know what country this was: China, of course.
Exactly. Could be Russia too. That's why he asked about Chineae or Russian threats.
The man who sold that information put not only the US in danger, but all its allies, like my country Sweden who is a close US ally and member of NATO.
He deserves life in prison.
In my opinion.
Isr@el
Be funny tho if it was Japan cooperating as a red cell test to see if they could penetrate and then finding a guy just willing to spill the beans, maybe that’s the classified part of the trial, their testimony like “yeah we picked him because his navy class photo looks like he’s doing the troll face, then he was like, bro I’ll tell you whatever for 500k lulz” but yeah no it was probably China and he probably knew that too I’d bet.
@@elishh8173 I'm gonna laugh my azz off when it's Cameroon. The U.S. Media wants you to believe that it's Russia and China; don't fall for this trap. Hillary's Russia collusion was all made up and the media pushed it into the minds of accepting sheep who continue to believe it.
If the shared information was actually available as osint to the general public, via Google,that would sink the government’s case.
EDIT: Make no mistake, though: I’m content to leave work inside the office, and not share unsharables.
Intent is the part you didn't factor. Ultimately, classified information was received by the CCP. End of that arguement.
The opperitive word was "much" of the information.
He responded to a request through Facebook about military information? The correct response would be “I can’t talk about it!”.
What part of OPSEC did he not remember? Regardless if he shared information from Google, Wikipedia, Jane's ships, the intent was sharing information with a NOFORN while in UNIFORM serving. He has or had a clearance🤦♂️🤷♂️
You would be very wrong about that! Twenty years in the USAF as well almost another 20 for a defense contractor. Did a whole bunch of security training in that time. If there is classified info somehow available publicly, you're still not allowed to transmit that information to someone else.
It’s too bad he didn’t keep top secret documents in his garage next to his corvette. Then he would have gotten off Scott free.
What about the bathroom at the others club house?? 😂
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You have to get your news from more than one source. Agent Orange and Mike Pence also keep secret documents at home.
You'd think with all the dirt they smear at him they would have gotten him by now. Glass house shattering around the left.
I bet these last two goofballs of presidents wern't the only ones that kept that kind of shit at home lol
they both treated it like it was a normal thing presidents do haha
Why do ppl do this to their own country? Then ask for leniency from that same country.
Life in prison is not enough.
SuperMax in Colorado!!!!!!
No all military goes to leaven worth secured barracks prison
It's always about money. Sell your soul, sell you county's secrets, gambling debts, flashy lifestyle. This type of person is so corruptible. Egotists, no consideration for their families. All they want is the next "shinny object."
wasnt even that much.
"Your honor, my Commander in Chief said it was OK."
and my previous Command in Chief, right?
@@Deasy782🙄 cansee you're the fun one at partys.
@@Deasy782 Try and keep up.
Damn Chief...
Everything is classified these days. And who would be dumb to snitch willingly through scientific publication (white paper) that would be read by thousands?
These charges are ridiculous.
I will say the Judge who is in good stead with his position, knows more than what we know in the court case, I trust that decision. The Chief obviously knows he broke rules so I feel comfortable with it being carried out.
Career USAF, there is no accident here. lock this traitor up. He thought this person he sent info to was a foreign agent, that shows intent in my book.
My husband was in the Navy. He is so up set. He should spend the rest of his life in prison.
Aside from the comments on espionage, security and classified information covered elsewhere in great detail . . . I have to question why the photos show a PO1, not a CPO.
Probably the clearest photo they had of him in uniform. You know the intern doing the graphics doesn't know military ranks lol
He looks young and they probably thought it was a good pic. I think they just released the results of the boards like a month ago. he probably just made chief........
They obviously had suspicion of this guy before they set him up
There’s no reason to think he knew they were a spy
really researcher fr FB. what a dummy.
He probably knew but the money was worth it.
If they dont charge this man i have lost all faith in the justice system!
Did he think he wouldn't get caught? NOT a good person if he's done this.
A single lead piece will cause a ripple effect. Make an example and help others understand what consequences are.
It is certainly "conduct unbecoming", and cause for an immediate court martial/dishonorable discharge. If only and all info used was public, it falls short of treason.
Uh no. Very myopic. Even if it were so, and it doesn't appear that way, he should still be harshly liable in some way. Reasons?
There is a tremendous volume of information out there about everything. Even if he didn't introduce new information into the mix, he clearly separated fact from fiction for his foreign employer, as well as interpreted the meanings of the available information...whether he acted as an espionage agent or the most savvy intelligence analyst they could dream up, a long harsh prison term should be in order.
Either way, he was employed for reward as a foreign agent while holding a security clearance.
@@JD-tn5lz A court martial can involve a sentence to military prison. I already covered the base you thought I didn't.
This should be a capital crime, some people have no pride or loyalty for the flag
So how much money did this Navy E-7 sell out for ??
How many people said thank you for your service to this guy?
Losers like you utter that phrase.
How many people say the same thing to Trump? Our country is f’d.
The sailor needs to pay for his crimes as a traitor.
sounds like some world class social engineering
This TRAITOR needs to be put away for LIFE!
Fetochini? , sounds like pasta
With the pose bro is definitely a sailor and loves seamen 😂
Some random sent him a message to get classified documents through Facebook and he did it?! I would've thought navy chiefs were smarter than this.
It's usually an officer that betrays their country.
It must be pretty rough in the Navy rn if every 6 months we got a new story of someone selling secrets to spies
Does being convicted of espionage carry an automatic death penalty?
And to think that some people like myself are still waiting to gain a position in the Navy as an officer. Was not denied is just waitlisted.
Life in jail for a traitor…😈😈😈
He should run for president.
Wouldn't a much better and more accurate title for the video be "Navy Chief Accused of Espionage Claims Information Provided Was From Google Searches"
The research papers were the cover for whoever he was giving information too.
Getting charged for thinking you can dupe a spy and make some side money and not give government their share of it 😂
He's a "Chief" Petty Officer (CPO), as an enlisted soldier, NOT a "Chief" in the sense as someone who's in charge of something big. Just to be clear for the NON Military people.
What’s a “missile destroyer?” Maybe reporters should use Google more when preparing reports so that they sound less ignorant.
im confused, how is it espionage if the info is googleable by anyone?
You can’t handle the truth!
Our politicians has done worse
Are we charging someone for "releasing" information that was already available on google? So silly
You can't work with foreign agents in any capacity
@@silencemeviolateme6076 Imagine if they held the presidents to the same standards.
@@icedcoffee8561 great. Until then we ignore crime?
If Google goes lower than this standard for making average Governative Agents feeling smart they can reduce themselves to the running dinosaur because it might be better..
That a source might be available on Google is irrelevant. If its damaging, its damaging. The opponent might never have found the damaging information, had it not been pointed out by the colluding agent.
Yeah he would incriminate himself because he is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Hand down the sentence already and penalize to the full extent of the law.
CHIEFs should KNOW BETTER!!!! Anyone having access to classified information knows better!!
This happens more than they actually report. During my service it was NVGs. Wound up being multiple bases. Hell they caught the Captain on base in Hawaii.
"japanese researcher" contacted him on a facebook and he fel for it. thats incredibly dumb!
You cannot fix stupid!
He should have kept ALL the classified document in the bathroom like the formal guy did. He'd been alright.
Damn Spy!
Send him to jail. Traitor!
Google hands your search history over to police without them even needing to get a warrant. They ask and Google give it to them. Welcome to the Fascist Police State.
It's not complicated. Treason is not complicated. Life in prison is an easy sentence. Back then treason acts gets hanged.
The papers were 'PERSONAL" docs. The Chief declassified them .
What happened to our Constitution's requirement for a speedy and PUBLIC trial????
Aileen Cannon: “Yeah, about that…”
Traitor TRAITOR..traitor !
Life in the Brig!
I hope for a life sentence.
Probably another FBI sting to see who's selling highly classified tech
says hi on a facebook Hi chief wanna make some good $zzz's Ok & snagged another hook line and sucka!
Damn, the Navy, and national guards are the best leakers.
I thought it said "chef" at first...
If he had access to classified information then he was annually trained on its handling and all possible scenarios. He knows that if there are any questions or concerns that he is to contact his information security officer.
As far as “Google-Ing” information, he was also trained on government classified information being available on the Internet, which does not make it unclassified and usable in a public forum for people who hold a clearance.
This is an open and shut case, this guy is going to jail.
That's treason.... We need to enact our train laws in their entirety.
His name is Fettuccini? It must have been the Italians behind all of this.
Terrible but if it's not classified information that puts lives at risk I'd say give him another chance at mcdonalds.
We need to know WHICH country
Doesn't seem complicated at all. He betrayed the country.