Simgot SuperMix 4 IEM Review - A New FPS Gaming King?
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- The Simgot SuperMix 4 is one of the latest IEMs from Simgot, offering 4 drivers per side. It's supposed to offer several improvements over previous Simgot products, and at $150, puts it in a very competitive IEM space. So how does the SuperMix 4 stack up to other IEMs? Check out the review to learn more!
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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
01:03 - Specs, Comfort, Cable
05:24 - Objective Sound
10:22 - Subjective Sound
14:41 - Gaming, and vs Others
20:05 - Final Thoughts
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Hi Gadgetry Tech would you ever consider making an IEM or Headphone tier list. Since you get to try so many IEM & headphones a tier list would be awesome.
First review I have seen from you...Absolutely Fantastic!!! The comparisons to other IEM's provide an invaluable amount of information. Thanks, and I'm a new subscriber.
Looking forward to an honest review. You are one of the honest guys 💪
i appreciate your videos brother, just prerordered these. looking forward to trying your apex eq in pred lobbies 👀👀
I'm planning to buy a pair soon, so I thank you for this review, Joseph!
Thank you...this is great. I might have to get this for gaming..
I would love to hear more about your favorite IEMs for CS2 or Valorant. Best IEMs at different price tiers for couple of game genres sounds like a video I would watch
excellent review, glad you brought out the volare and megafest (they're both on my list to acquire), however, just like you i can't stand the ear tip extension with NO LIP - i would pass on this set just because of that, can't stand pulling out silicone tips stuck in my ear canals
Great review. Are you going to do the p1 max 2 you think?
Great review! Patiently waiting for that Apex EQ...... :)
I'm trying so hard to wrap it up haha
@@GadgetryTech What is ur best IEM for gaming especially Valorant and watching movies max price 370 euro's????
@@GadgetryTech Are these the best of the best if not what do you suggest i was thinking about the new moondrop Crinacle dusk
Great review. I am going to give the SuperMix 4 a try. Could you recommend a decent DAC/Amp combo to use with these IEMs, please?
I know you’ve mentioned before that you have them en route, but I can’t wait to see how the ZiiGatt Arete compares to the Supermix 4. Trying to decide between these two as my next IEM
I'll definitely compare them to eachother!
Add the same indecision.
The Linsoul Sale decided for me.
Ended up buying the Supermix 4 for $135.
Still waiting for the Arete review tough, hope it doesn't make me regret my decision.
Pros/ cons still have me highly interested but I'm also interested in that IEM tree. I found myself looking at that throughout the vid!
Haha, thanks! This is the jewelry tree I purchased! amzn.to/3RatITz
Yo, Joe! Will you take a look at the Sennheiser 620S as well?
Hi Gadgetry, I have EM6L and do you think it is a good choice to upgrade to Supermix4? I normally use them to play Apex Legends, and pop/mainstream music
So you talked about cables at the beginning of your video and how there are better options out there than some stock IEM ones. Can you please do a video on IEM cable suggestions? Or even what type of cable materials we should be looking for when shopping for one.
Sure think! I typically like OFC cables (oxygen free copper). A great budget pick are the Linsoul Tripowin cables. Just make sure you get the right termination for your IEMs
interested in both the em6l and the supermix4, maybe kiwi quartet too, for my first pair of IEMs. Switching from Nova 7. $100+ is kind of more than I wanted to spend on my first toe dip into IEM pool. Do you have like a ~$50ish best for gaming IEM? I see the KZ s10 pro is also a 1DD, 4BA system like the em6L. Wondering how close it gets in performance for half the price...
Great review, thank a lot. Do you think the Fiio KA11 dongle dac is suitable for Supermix4?
It's absolutely more than enough! That will be a great pairing
Helpful 🙏
I was wondering what is a good mmcx iem to use with the kimura microphone cable in fps games?
Great Review! Would love for you to review the Davinci and the EM10.
hey, between the cloud 3 wireless, cloud 3 wired and the Logitech gpro x2 which one you would choose and why to play on console with your friends?
So I'm still kinda new to the iem world, my setup has always been HD58X plugged into my goxlr mini, recently started using IEMS, right now I'm using the tangzu fudu verse 1 but listening you talk about EQ makes me wonder if I can make them sound even better, do I need to download a program for it, how does it work?
In your graph what is the output impedance on the "High Out Impedance" graph? Looking at these all for fps gaming. Ive got other audio devices for music and story games.
My music is all over the place but mostly pop punk and some country. I also do a lot of gaming but only fls is valorant. Are there a good iem for those or should I go with something else? And what dac / Amp would you recommend up to $200
Do you think these would be good for story games as well?
Great review. Would love to see you review some of sennheisers IE series (200,300,600).
I'd love to one day. They aren't cheap and Sennheiser hasn't returned messages so I'll either have to buy or find another means
@@GadgetryTech I’d be happy to lend you the 600 for testing.
Appreciate it! I have a couple secondary options for getting them, but that's very kind of you to offer that.
Regarding the Orchestra Lite comparison (ignoring the price difference and sound profile because of EQ), are they superior in terms of imaging, depth, layering and resolution to the Supermix 4 for FPS gaming?
@gadgetrytech
from my POV, simply Supermix 4 is more bassy. If you prefer sound clarity, Orchestra Lite would be better.
What would you recommend Truthear x Crinacle Zero Red ($66), Simgot's EM6L ($131.5), or Sennheiser HD 560S ($174) for gaming, if these prices are to be considered in my region ?
Any eartips you recommend for the supermix 4?
What ear tips are you using with these?
any recommendations for dac/amp, tips and cable for this iem? i just got it i am using CREATIVE G6 7.1 HD Gaming DAC and External USB Sound Card with Xamp Headphone Amplifier, any eq profile for this iems?
Hey Joe what change if anything? I caught your live stream and you seem not to be feeling these IEM 😅. You went back and forth with other IEMs and it seemed that there was something in the sound that was throwing you off. Did eq do the trick? Just curious on how you went about it. I play Apex most of the times, plus I have no way to eq them so I'll be patiently waiting to see if something else pops up. Thank you for all your hard work and as many have stated you're really one of the most honest youtubers.
So I had been messing around with showing a demo of Sonar right before I unboxed those! When I switched to my IEM amp, a generic game target was active and it was peaking the treble even further when in call of duty. When I took measurements, it bypasses Sonar so the measurement still seemed normal. That was a byproduct of listening for something for the first time while in game and not having a baseline to go off of lol.
My Apex vid drops as soon as tomorro! Goal is Sunday, but it will be out by Monday I feel.
The EM6L is my daily driver for COD, wonder if I should upgrade to the super mix 4 or stick with them and wait for a next more affordable budget pair ?
I’m looking to pick these IEMS up myself and I’m no audiophile by any means and the way I’ve got my audio set up with my Astro mixamp connected to my ps5 and pc and I really have no intention of replacing the mixamp as of yet anyway but would I still be able to use these IEMS connected to the Astro TR mixamp will little to no issue?
Hey, I heard there is some problem using these directly to the laptop or smartphone due to output impedence and it needs a DAC/AMP otherwise sound is not proper, can you please tell me if I plug these directly using apple lightning to 3.5 mm dongle will they work properly, also my second device is macbook pro with m1 chip. Thanks
Can you please share your recommended EQ for this Set?
I just ordered it on the Linsoul Sale.
You sir are awesome!
Are these the best of the best if not what do you suggest i was thinking about the new moondrop Crinacle dusk
Please can u tell us when u say gaming king if your are talking about Gear phone/iem or juste about iem, because i think we have not the same benefit when we use iem for gaming, the sound can be pretty smouth but about spacialisation and precision i think we cant have the same result, Thank you for your answer
Looking for a decent qdc boom mic! any recommendations? :)
what dac amp do you recommend with it that have xlr for mic also❤ minimalist ones specifically
any experience with Aful Explorer, Truthear Nova, or Myer Audio CKVLX compared to these? competitive gaming mainly, thanks
Is fiio ka11 a good dac for this iem?, just pre-ordered these
Hey buddy great video once again
I've just got the em6ls from using nova pros and I've used the eq tuning config for warzone with Sonar and the steel series dac
I find that the foot steps are clear as hell with the pc speaker EQ sound in game... But everything else seems every so loud aswell when in a gun fight and air strikes ect ect and can't hear the steps
So I switched to headphone/headphone bass boost there brill but just not as good as pc speaker with the steps
What EQ are you running if you don't mind me asking in game? Any tips
Keep up the work man
Thanks so much for the super chat!! Regarding EQ - I usually use my custom tunes I share with the community, maybe a couple tweaks here and there from time to time, but ultimately very similar. In game I pretty much always use the headphones preset, as it's kind of the best blend of footstep boost without the air strikes being as loud as they are in PC speaker mode.
@@GadgetryTech were can I find your custom tunes buddy?
Here's the site: gadgetrytech.squig.link/?share=SIMGOT_EM6L. If you click on Apex or Warzone at the bottom, it gives you a custom target with auto EQ support towards the top. My Apex Video and Warzone EQ video explain how to use the tools to tune!
I have issues with metallic timbre so those will be a hard pass.
However I do wonder how some EQ could balance them out so they could be tonally fixed while keeping their technicalities.
Tonality is as important as layering for gaming imo to be honest because the sounds in game can be overwhelming loud and fatiguing.
That's where the Hype4 shine but that's another price tag.
At 150€ I would still pick Myer SL41 over the Supermix4 no question !
Do i need to buy an amp or something else or can i just plug them into my laptop to game? This is going to be my first IEM THANK U
How can I tune these for apex? Gunshots are too loud & I don’t want to have to use loudness EQ
Hi Joe , I’m playing Only on ps5 .I’m trying to find an eq presset for the razer Barracuda midle ,can you help me or guide me somehow? Thanks!
Do you have a favourite IEM for single player gaming? Something with an immersive sound
SuperMix 4 or Arete?
I’m so torn if the Arete is worth the price gap. Show me the light 💡
Hey man! Love your videos! i just bought KZ ZS10 Pro 2, but its not in your IEM list for warzone Auto EQ. How can I try it?
You can export the Warzone target and upload it to other people's lists to Auto EQ.
i got the em6l 103$ you were referring to vs the 150$ super mix. Funny art of war seemed to hate the em6l, seemed highly biased though.
Maybe in part because they may not have worked as well with his audio tune for cod(absolutely game changing) but more likely they pushed him off because the tips kept coming off in his ear because they don’t have a lip to keep the tips on.
He definitely didn’t care for them tho lol
Hi sir, I recently bought the EM6L after seeing your 2024 roundup video for gaming audio.
I have been regularly using them by directly connect the jack into my laptops audio port. In addition, I came from the Nova 7s you recommended using your custom EQ.
Overall the EM6L work great and I love them. The only thing is that some games like valorant, the guns are quite bassy and it makes the other sound less pronounced. Also, I can’t hear the fine detail/environment I do on my nova 7 (I expected this though).
I was wondering if you or any of the viewers here had any suggestions or maybe an EQ I can try within the sonar software. Also, I guess should I even still be using it (as of now the nova 7 EQ is disabled).
Btw I am not an audio person lol. I play many tac shooters and FPS.
Thank you
I think this got answered in my Discord server, but i wanted to agree with what was said there. Typically a bass boost comes from high output impedance, and even a cheaper $10 apple dongle is all you need to solve that problem. It's a good start at least. Additionally, Valorant is a fairly bass-heavy game. So you may want to pull some bass down with EQ to help clean it up.
@@GadgetryTech thanks for your reply. I ordered an apple dongle and I’ll let you know, I will even play around in sonar and maybe recur the bass a few notches
@@artic_ac6898+1 for the apple dongle. Much better than laptop audio.
I bought the Supermix 4 and use it with a DAC (Creativ Sound Blaster Play!3). I don't know why the Supermix 4 are so super quiet. Please help!
Is there a possibility of including a microphone with a cable?
For COD Warzone using your custom EQ would you recommend the Supermix over the EM6L?
i have simgot em6l and truthear nova im looking to move on to something different, what should i try?
this vs aful performer 5?
On a side note, I was thinking of pairing a good IEM (whichever I decide on) with a good DAC with mic input. I was thinking of the Schiit Hel+ but they seem to be out of stock and they are not returning my email. I'm a bit concerned there.
EDIT: Just heard back from Schiit. Apparently they have no idea when the Hel will be back in stock...in case anybody wanted to know.
If they are having stock issues, I'd seriously consider the Creative G5 or Qudelix 5K in that sub $200 price range. Both are still great picks!
@@GadgetryTech I considered the G5 but most reviews had it as a jack of all trades but master of none. Whereas the Hel+ seemed focused as a good DAC. What do you think? I'll investigate the Qudelix 5K. Thanks.
Hey! I was wondering if you'd recommend the EM6L or the Supermix 4 with an apple dongle without additional EQ for R6?
Is these good for fotsteps
Hi joe I hope your feeling better today I play on ps5 only and I ordered the focal elex for gaming audio for ps5 how are they are they mostly for music do you think I made a mistake are they good for story games thank you stay safe and happy gaming to all
Dude, I'm really enjoying the Elex! Such a wonderful headphone and works great on so many things, both music and gaming included! I think you'll love it.
So for general use which ones would you pick, for any game, music listening just everything. EM6L or SM4 ?
EM6L is more balanced to other uses, tonality is not as metallic as the supermix4.
I can’t wait for Fortnite EQ review !
Thanks! Atm my Apex one should drop tomorrow or Monday. Then it's Xdefiant, then Fortnite :)
@GadgetryTech
awesome videos I just subscribed. For competitive gaming I saw in another video you also really enjoyed the EM6L phoenix . Would you pick the EM6L phoenix or these ?
Splendor 2, Supermix 4, or
ziigaat x Fresh arete for COD?
how do they compare to ew200?
hey joe, do you have the hesuvi eq update for these?
I only play Apex legends. Which would be the best IEMs for that?
These, the Em6L or orchestra lites?
Would these be a good pair with the steelseries gamedac 2
I am chasing something with a bit less bass and subbass with just 1-2 db more midbass. Just tubfill out the mids and male voices.
Treble forward and extension is ok for me though. I am not sensitive to that without being partially deaf, yet.
Sounds like the EM6L from Simgot is better suited for you. They are still wonderful IEMs
Simgot SuperMix 4 or Simgot EM6L for cs2, valorant, fortnite, pubg, maybe dota 2
Which headphones would be more versatile?
Subtitles translate poorly and it's hard to read 20 minutes of it
Would you recommend the eml6 or supermix 4 for rainbow six siege?
Check Freshreviews out, he did a comparison of all simgot IEM’s and he basically put the above all for R6 Siege
Do you have a measurement of the nozzle diameter for the SM4?
...did you watch the video?
Small bore … thats what she used to call me 😢
LOL
Oh Lord, best joke I've heard in some time, good job 😂
you say sm4 has more details than em6l but for those who already have a em6l, is sm4 a significant enough upgrade for music listening that justify buying sm4 ?
It does have significantly more detail but em61 is darker and more syrup, which you may find more musical. SM4 is more revealing and analytical. It had more to work with of you have access to PEQ and filters. I think it games better bc of the detail.
@@TheModeRed i ended up buying sm4, and i concur that em6L is warmer and sm4 more analytical, so i prefer em6L
@@amanieux over eq'd up my bass and mids and down my highs just slightly so I can listen with richness at higher volumes. Then I still get the details
is the Tangzu Xuan NV good for gaming?
I have really small ear holes and have trouble getting iems in my ears :(
need review for escape for tarkov i use aful 8 still nice but not hearing lot of detailes and foot steps also perhapes i will get u4s 64audio and end this iem thing im sicking to buy iems and sometimes i hear nothing diffrent lil bit maybe only 5 % or sometimes nothing im using ibasso dco4 and fiio k7
Is it worth getting the simgot em6l at $80 USD now or waiting for the Super mix 4 at retail price? I'm mainly using the iem for gaming.
I have 7hz salnotes zero first Gen and looking to upgrade.
Thanks
if you don't mind me asking where are you getting them for 80$
@@alexizboss3632 Aliexpress when they have sales and cupouns. The summer sale was the most recent.
Hey my friend, do you recommend the supermix4 or the Steelseries artic nova pro for gaming?
Nova pros sucks! I have them. At least for COD they suck
How does this compare to the Orchestra Lites....especially when playing Escape from Tarkov where sound is critical.
EDIT: watching now further....I don't think the supermix 4 is what I'm looking for. I'm still looking for a product similar in performance with the Orchestra Lites but with more comfort. If I'm not mistaken, the supermix seems to have a few problems with sound performance and they are not vented. Same problems as the Orchestra Lites but not on it's level of performance.
I feel that the SuperMix 4 is overall a better value for Tarkov. They are also more comfortable which I could argue is just as important here
@@GadgetryTech Value is important as well as the comfort which is why I didn't impulse buy the Orchestra Lites. But I'm going by the many many reviews I've read and seen about the Orchestra Lites which tout it's very impressive use in gaming with it's distinct sound profile. In that respect I haven't seen another pair of IEMs rated higher. Although, all reviews seem to agree about the Lites problems with comfort and it not being vented. This leaves me frustrated. I want the performance and the comfort (in around the same price range)....at least something approaching the specific performance but vented. Perhaps some of your untested products will fit the bill. Waiting to see.
@@GadgetryTech Please put the Moondrop Katos on your list with an emphasis on gaming vs the Orchestra Lites....unless you have already reviewed them and I missed it.
Any plans to review ziigaat x fresh arete?
Yes I have a set coming!
@@GadgetryTechlooking forward to it
Thanks for comparing these to the Orchestra Lites. Art_Of_War won't shut up about them. Anyone that plays Warzone should check out his channel btw. Anyway, I'm getting close to pulling the trig, and you've given me something to consider. Especially for about half the price.
On a semi-related note, a round up video of desktop mics would be dope. $0 - $50, $50 - $100, and $100+. 🙏🙏🙏
I actually having something coming not too far down the road on mics. After using both, I prefer the SuperMix 4 over the Kiwi Orchestra Lite. The Lites sound really nice but the comfort can be an issue for some.
@@GadgetryTechhey man. When u do the mic roundup, try to throw in the fifine am8. It’s a usb/xlr dynamic mic so it cuts down a lot of background/room sound. It’s only 16/44100 with the headphone output but the mic sounds better than anything I’ve heard in the $50 range. I think it’s like 54.99. I bought one for me, one for my son and my nephew put his quadcast up and switched to it.
Definitely worth a look for a budget option.
Bought for gaming and desktop general use, but been using it for music lol.
How are you liking them for gaming so far?
The most common and major problem with all the Simgot's are the metallic timbre and thin sounding vocals. The only reason I buy them is for the detail retrieval and built quality but they are major no for Vocal centric music.
i want to buy iems for mainly competetive valorant but also listening a bit of music which one do you recommend? price range abt 300. I was thinkíng abt blessing 3, moondrop dusk, yanyin canon II ?
Just ordered Blessing 3's for competitive FPS gaming. What did you end up with?
@@Sparxyx thieaudio hype4
Hey Joe. How would this work with the fiio k9 akm and the dx3pro+
Both will work totally fine! Those are good pairings for this
@@GadgetryTech Thanks man. Appreciate it
Hey, I'm totally new to IEMs and I would like to know if the EM6L or Supermix 4 are a good upgrade from a hyperx cloud 2?
I would mainly use them to play competitive fps games would i "hear better" with IEMs compared to a hyperx cloud 2?
If i bought either the EM6L or the supermix 4, would I need to get a dac/amp does it make a huge difference or is it just a nice thing to have?
Thanks for the great video.
Go for Supermix 4, it's a better EM6L. For fps gaming, you won't need a dac/amp.
It’ll be night and day from your cloud 2s when it comes to directional audio and knowing exactly where sounds are coming from.
You’ll never look back
Do you need a dac/amp to run this on ps5? or a straight plug to the controller is enough?
Straight to the controller is plenty! It should be all you need to get more than loud enough
@@GadgetryTech Thank you for the reply..love your vidz btw..
New to headphone audio community! Has been running the Tangzu Waner for over a year. Warzone player. Just pre ordered these (Supermix 4) based on this video and it being talked highly on Fresh Reviews as well.
Just wanted to ask if I need that Apple adapter, or if I will be fine plugging these straight to my motherboard and/or the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 3rd Gen headphone output. Please let me know. Thanks for your hard work!
Thanks! You def want something like the apple dongle. Those other devices like the focusrite have too high output impedance.
Speedy fast response time. Low latency feedback I love it. Thank You so much! Consider me your latest subscriber.
@@Kingsant thanks for the support!
Help i am looking for good IEMS and good headset to play COD , so these are relay good IEMS for cod ???
If they’re better than the orchestra lites, they absolutely are. I have the lites and my supermix 4s should be here in the next couple of days.
@@hillbillyjustice8213 So how are the Supermix 4s compared to the Orchestra Lites?
100% agree, using eq to lift certain freq causes perceptible distortion, at least in my experience. EQ is better suited to reduce a specific frequency, especially with less quality or less capable drivers imo
Yup! Ideally you want to reduce, not add
Hello Brother
Please rank 1,2,3,4,5 which iem you like most & give valid reasons why :
✅ KZ Castor Bass
✅ KZ D-Fi Switch
✅ KZ Vader
✅ CCA Duo
✅ CCA Rhapsody
1 = the best
5 = the worst
Supermix4 compared to the Dusk for music?
Depends on which Dusk and what your preference is. Dusk 2 (newest one just under $400) I like a little bit more for music. But if you want more v-shape or emphasized upper treble, then the SuperMix4 is still a great pick
@@GadgetryTech Yes definitely meant the Dusk 2. Bit worried about vocals with the Supermix4 based on what I'm hearing a bit. Have you ever tried any of the Thieaudio hype series?
So I got the Hype 4 this week. It sounds great and I think swaps back and forth with IEMs like the the SuperMix 4. A BIG sleeper hit though of all of the mid $300-600 IEM stuff is the Yanyin Canon II. That IEM is simply amazing foe the money. Maybe give that one a shot? Seriously underrated. It's great with bass and vocals, and treble extension is quite nice as well. gadgetrytech.squig.link/?share=Yanyin_Canon_II_uu,ThieAudio_Hype_4
@@GadgetryTech really tough! Looking at the Hype 4 and Canon II now too. Man lol
Vs the DaVinci for gaming please !
Davinci is in transit!
watts your iem recommondation for gaming
Simgot EM6L and SuperMix 4 are definitely towards the top
@@GadgetryTech already have em6L, thank you 🙏
Does it work well with the Sound BlasterX G6? Mainly for COD on the PS5? Or would you say the VZR Model 1 is the better option?
These or em10?
This for gaming. EM10 has more bass and treble extension
@@GadgetryTech thank you. Hope to see a review 👍
@@GadgetryTechthis or davinci
@@reesekilpatrick241 if you want more bass and smoother treble, Davinci. This still had good bass, just a bit brighter up top.
@@GadgetryTech thanks so much for the quick reply and great bud you’ve earned another sub