How about an active cool down? Blood pooling in the lower extremities can lead to fainting, dizziness, nausea. You also want to have active cool-down to facilitate metabolic waste removal.Have the person straddle the treadmill while you lower the speed and then have the person do a cool down walk to gradually bring the heart rate back down to pre-exercise heart rate.
Two things. One, a true VO2 max test should take no longer than 14-16 minutes. A 20 minute test may seem "more valid" but at a certain point the athlete is just utilizing anaerobic means to maintain his or her intensity. Two, it's nearly impossible to actually "max out" a fit person on a flat grade. Not enough muscle mass is recruited on a flat grade - when you increase the grade, you activate more of the posterior chain (hamstrings and glutes).
Actually you might potentially find that a protocol in the range of 8 - 12 minutes is more suitable. I am only suggesting this based off the research that has found that protocols which are longer (>12 minutes), may create a state of premature fatigue before oxygen uptake has plateaued. Additionally, research has found that cardiac output peaks at around 5-9 minutes of maximal exercise, so it may be a factor related to that! However, you obviously need to take into regard that a sufficient warm up has to take place! Indeed, its generally understood now that muscle mass recruitment isn't a determinant of a true VO2max! It just maybe that flat protocols are not as hard as protocols which use a steep incline. Therefore, VO2max is not achieved within the recommend time frame!
+Paul Bloom Since O2 consumption is actually being measured and not predicted as a submax test might do there is no way for him to cheat the test by using anearobic metabolism. What's measured is what's measured. As Clarke mentioned a longer test might make it harder for the individual to actually achieve maximum O2 consumption.
The athlete was given an active recovery as soon as he jumped off the treadmill. We placed the athlete back on the treadmill at a walking speed to allow for the prevention of blood pooling in the lower extremities and also to gain recovery data. We had the video edited for commercial purposes and our editor cut that part out for time reasons.
There should be a study demonstrating what happens with your VO2max intake measure depending on having or not having at your side an annoing guy that tells you loudly what you already knew when you signed up for the test.
Is it possible to have so little muscle mass that your muscles are the limiting factor to your vO2max? It's not like it would affect training to any degree, i'm just curious. thanks
For a trained recreational runner 9.5 mph would be light work even on 1 - 2% incline. 200 bpm at 0 incline means he was blowing gaskets and would have certainly passed out if continued.
That guy is in fantastic shape- so what was his VO max #? I take the bruce protocol test every 2 years at the hospital due to open heart surgery in 2002, a 4 x bypass, I run some 5ks and cycle to my cardiologists office 30 miles each way -- my VO max is about 51 judging by the time on the treadmill-- I am 58 so not a young guy but my surgeon and cardiologist are very impressed
shouldnt there have been an incline increase at somepoint to decrease the duration of the test but still allowing the subject to reach their max vo2 and hr?
I am 56 years old and my max is 51, i take the bruce protocol treadmill test every 2 years as i had open heart surgery in 2002 [4x bypass] so i am sure this guy probably had closer to 60, maybe more? Bruce protocol tests differs as the incline is steep, starts at grade 10 and increases 2 every 3 minutes but the speed is slower, lots of info. of the specs on the internet. He did an excellent job, usually they get my heart rate to about 190
So I'm a runner, and had a VO2 max test done my freshman year of high school at a cross country camp at UW Whitewater Wisconsin, however they stopped the test after 26:20 of running, because they said my amount of CO2 stopped changing after 20 minutes even though they were increasing the speed of my running and the incline. Is this something normal to happen?? I first questioned whether the machine was broken so I took more at UW Oshkosh, but had the same results.
Please also understand there is no such thing as a wrong or dumb question and that this video was made with the intent of educating people on the proper way to effectivily perform a VO2 Max test using gas exchange measurement and indirect calorimetry. With that said please be respectful to each other and debate with one another respectfully. Debating, questioning, and hypothosizing is all part of science and research. Thanks everyone!
I have 3 questions 1.how much would this cost? 2.Can anybody have it tested or do you have to be famous or good at ur sport 3. Who has had the best VO2 max ever tested? and what was it?
One exercise physiologist controls the cart, one is constantly recording heart rate, and one is there just in case he falls. At least that's what we were taught in our exercise physiology lab.
+minerva Westbrook To be clear it doesn't matter how fast you run (though that's usually correlated) the equipment is monitoring how much oxygen he is consuming perminute per body weight per minute. The treadmill is just the tool being used to get him to consume oxygen maximally. This can also be done on a bike.
Cool, thank you :) are there other methods that test VO2 Max? I'm thinking about power athletes who won't necessarily have great endurance thus not producing results on a VO2 max testing using a treadmill or bike. Thoughts?
The treadmill will still cause them to consume oxygen maximally and the protocols usually make the test pretty short and it's only really intense for the last couple of minutes so pretty much anyone regardless of fitness level can get a fairly accurate reading. The bike or rowing machine should really only be used for well trained athletes in those sports. Those who arent will experience volitional fatigue of the muscles before they reach maximum aerobic capacity. A subvo2max test that uses heart rate, weight and gender is a much easier way to find VO2max but these tests are not 100% accurate and therefore are really only good for generally assessing the cardiovascular fitness from a health perspective and not for performance. In all honesty though a vo2max reading isn't of much used to a power athlete like a sprinter or lifter. A Wingate test to assess anaerobic capacity would be more appropriate.
at 8.5M/hr pulse 189 you kidding? He is clearly not a runner or drank all night beforehand. I mean this is an easy methodology.. finishing just at 9.5 with no incline...interesting to see what was the output
The values are wrong on stage 6 the speed is 6.8mph not 9.5mph which is in the video... something is wrong Edit: i mean in stage 6 it should be 6.8mph , that is the standard
the dude that paced the whole video made this look stupid. Thanks for my major change. The white dude and the one with the clip board made thus look legit though.
hi everyone i am sorry i have not answered all your questions that have been posted on here. I have been extrememly busy the last several months running My Exercise Science facility. I recommend that everyone continue to leave comments and questions on the video or about exercise physiology, and i will answer them for you all very soon.
His point was exactly the opposite, his point was that VO2 max is dependent on a number of variables including, but not limited to being massively obese. So, in the mean time, keep being massively obese. I'm sure that there is a promising boxing career in your future.
198 heart rate????? This guy looks about 25 years old which would put his maximum heart rate at about 195 so he would have to be running at over 100% his Max to hit almost 200 BPM.
I still don't know what "Clutching at straws" means. I'm just repeating what you said here: Some people do like being pushed, it's fat lazy people who don't!. And YOU are the one that said that, NOT ME. You think the equation is true [Don't like to be pushed = Fat and Lazy]. May be the equation is [Don't like to be pushed = would rather walk than run], [don't like to be pushed = can't run] I was looking up female stress tests since females are NOT small men. Found this video by accident!
Just so prinecornerkick knows, I found this video by accident. I was looking up stress tests for women since woman have a different equation for the stress test. I didn't come looking for this video and I didn't say "Oh let me find a video I hate so I can troll on it". That is stupid. Just don't assume that all people that can't run 8 miles an hour are fat or lazy. My mom can't run 5 mph and she is neither lazy nor fat. You made a blanket statement which is a big over-generalization.
This is what you said: "Some people like to be pushed" THEN YOU SAID ""IT is FAT AND LAZY people who don't". MY MOM does not like to be "pushed". I don't like to be pushed either. So to me or my mo don't like to be pushed that must mean we are= fat and lazy. According to you ALL people that don't like to be pushed are = fat and lazy. We are NEITHER fat/lazy. We do NOT like to be pushed. So your equation is false. Not all people that don't like to be pushed are fat or lazy. Just your opinion
Yeah, my mom is 5 foot 5 and about 110 pounds. Oh wait. . .she's not "fat" at all. She wears size 4 pants. But, wait. She can't run like this video either. Well jeez. I guess my mom is just LAZY according to you, right? But what you didn't know is my mom is 60. Welcome to life. You will age to. Not everyone is "fat" like you say.
How about an active cool down? Blood pooling in the lower extremities can lead to fainting, dizziness, nausea. You also want to have active cool-down to facilitate metabolic waste removal.Have the person straddle the treadmill while you lower the speed and then have the person do a cool down walk to gradually bring the heart rate back down to pre-exercise heart rate.
I thought so, too.
Are you a physical trainer? I have a lot to learn about tips and techniques
Two things.
One, a true VO2 max test should take no longer than 14-16 minutes. A 20 minute test may seem "more valid" but at a certain point the athlete is just utilizing anaerobic means to maintain his or her intensity.
Two, it's nearly impossible to actually "max out" a fit person on a flat grade. Not enough muscle mass is recruited on a flat grade - when you increase the grade, you activate more of the posterior chain (hamstrings and glutes).
Actually you might potentially find that a protocol in the range of 8 - 12 minutes is more suitable. I am only suggesting this based off the research that has found that protocols which are longer (>12 minutes), may create a state of premature fatigue before oxygen uptake has plateaued. Additionally, research has found that cardiac output peaks at around 5-9 minutes of maximal exercise, so it may be a factor related to that! However, you obviously need to take into regard that a sufficient warm up has to take place!
Indeed, its generally understood now that muscle mass recruitment isn't a determinant of a true VO2max! It just maybe that flat protocols are not as hard as protocols which use a steep incline. Therefore, VO2max is not achieved within the recommend time frame!
+Paul Bloom Since O2 consumption is actually being measured and not predicted as a submax test might do there is no way for him to cheat the test by using anearobic metabolism. What's measured is what's measured. As Clarke mentioned a longer test might make it harder for the individual to actually achieve maximum O2 consumption.
That guy was amazing! His feet didn't stagger at all. Great job!
Come on guys at least tell us the results, it seems like a wasted watch otherwise.
this
Ya wasting our time
there was no recovery phase
isn't that heart rate 198 (bascially 200bpm) dangerous?
The athlete was given an active recovery as soon as he jumped off the treadmill. We placed the athlete back on the treadmill at a walking speed to allow for the prevention of blood pooling in the lower extremities and also to gain recovery data. We had the video edited for commercial purposes and our editor cut that part out for time reasons.
There should be a study demonstrating what happens with your VO2max intake measure depending on having or not having at your side an annoing guy that tells you loudly what you already knew when you signed up for the test.
haha thought the same thing
lmfao
Is it possible to have so little muscle mass that your muscles are the limiting factor to your vO2max? It's not like it would affect training to any degree, i'm just curious. thanks
Usually not on a treadmill. On a cycle ergometer it's not uncommon that muscle fatigue kicks in before central fatigue
I did this test years ago. Canyon Ranch also has these tests.
With the proximity of that treadmill to the wall, if he'd stumbled he'd been absolutely wrecked.
For a trained recreational runner 9.5 mph would be light work even on 1 - 2% incline. 200 bpm at 0 incline means he was blowing gaskets and would have certainly passed out if continued.
That guy is in fantastic shape- so what was his VO max #? I take the bruce protocol test every 2 years at the hospital due to open heart surgery in 2002, a 4 x bypass, I run some 5ks and cycle to my cardiologists office 30 miles each way -- my VO max is about 51 judging by the time on the treadmill-- I am 58 so not a young guy but my surgeon and cardiologist are very impressed
Just saw your comment...I do Vo2 Testing...THOSE ARE AWESOME NUMBERS!!! Keep it going
What's the reason you have THREE exercise physiologists involved here?
shouldnt there have been an incline increase at somepoint to decrease the duration of the test but still allowing the subject to reach their max vo2 and hr?
How can we know that is not vo2 peak? It looks like vo2 peak, because curves in computer screen was still increasing before the end.
Would you get different results if he was pushed to failure on a suspension treadmill?
this new to me.
ive done 10mph for 3mins flat to push myself.Since im all ways jogging my gold was to gon10mph for 10 - 20 mins straight.
What protocols did you use??
Damn! Like a BOSS! Good job Ryan! You kiled it
Shouldn't he have had an active recovery afterwards?
I remember doing this but for 12 minutes. Thought my heart was going to pop out of my chest
I am 56 years old and my max is 51, i take the bruce protocol treadmill test every 2 years as i had open heart surgery in 2002 [4x bypass] so i am sure this guy probably had closer to 60, maybe more? Bruce protocol tests differs as the incline is steep, starts at grade 10 and increases 2 every 3 minutes but the speed is slower, lots of info. of the specs on the internet. He did an excellent job, usually they get my heart rate to about 190
could you easily adapt this gear to test somebody on a rowing machine? or would you need entirely different equipment?
Cool video I always wondered how this worked. Is it possible for a 32 year old to have the vo2 max of a 20 year old?
Is this just a customized protocol you used?
So I'm a runner, and had a VO2 max test done my freshman year of high school at a cross country camp at UW Whitewater Wisconsin, however they stopped the test after 26:20 of running, because they said my amount of CO2 stopped changing after 20 minutes even though they were increasing the speed of my running and the incline. Is this something normal to happen?? I first questioned whether the machine was broken so I took more at UW Oshkosh, but had the same results.
Please also understand there is no such thing as a wrong or dumb question and that this video was made with the intent of educating people on the proper way to effectivily perform a VO2 Max test using gas exchange measurement and indirect calorimetry. With that said please be respectful to each other and debate with one another respectfully. Debating, questioning, and hypothosizing is all part of science and research. Thanks everyone!
What protocol is this?
which protocol is this
So what was his V02max????
I have 3 questions
1.how much would this cost?
2.Can anybody have it tested or do you have to be famous or good at ur sport
3. Who has had the best VO2 max ever tested? and what was it?
One exercise physiologist controls the cart, one is constantly recording heart rate, and one is there just in case he falls.
At least that's what we were taught in our exercise physiology lab.
ACSM's metabolic equation would suggest that he was near 56 ml.kg.min-1
how to know it is not vo2 peak?
What was his age?
what protocol did they use?
Ty Mesgale if
im heavy set. will this help me run longer to lose weight faster naturally?
You can do it Ryan!
SO what was the VO2max?
Does VO2 max testing take into account a person's height? I mean someone who is short will have a shorter stride then someone who is taller.
thanks ***** :)
+minerva Westbrook To be clear it doesn't matter how fast you run (though that's usually correlated) the equipment is monitoring how much oxygen he is consuming perminute per body weight per minute. The treadmill is just the tool being used to get him to consume oxygen maximally. This can also be done on a bike.
Cool, thank you :) are there other methods that test VO2 Max? I'm thinking about power athletes who won't necessarily have great endurance thus not producing results on a VO2 max testing using a treadmill or bike. Thoughts?
The treadmill will still cause them to consume oxygen maximally and the protocols usually make the test pretty short and it's only really intense for the last couple of minutes so pretty much anyone regardless of fitness level can get a fairly accurate reading. The bike or rowing machine should really only be used for well trained athletes in those sports. Those who arent will experience volitional fatigue of the muscles before they reach maximum aerobic capacity. A subvo2max test that uses heart rate, weight and gender is a much easier way to find VO2max but these tests are not 100% accurate and therefore are really only good for generally assessing the cardiovascular fitness from a health perspective and not for performance.
In all honesty though a vo2max reading isn't of much used to a power athlete like a sprinter or lifter. A Wingate test to assess anaerobic capacity would be more appropriate.
you explain it very well my brother
NIU represent exercise phys!!!! BOOM
I would have died at 6 mph
at 8.5M/hr pulse 189 you kidding? He is clearly not a runner or drank all night beforehand.
I mean this is an easy methodology.. finishing just at 9.5 with no incline...interesting to see what was the output
Aren't you special
Alexander Silinskiy So then you must be a very good runner
The values are wrong on stage 6 the speed is 6.8mph not 9.5mph which is in the video... something is wrong
Edit: i mean in stage 6 it should be 6.8mph , that is the standard
the dude that paced the whole video made this look stupid. Thanks for my major change. The white dude and the one with the clip board made thus look legit though.
what protocol did you guys use?
Four people in there monitoring this guy? Seems completely superfluous.
Cause all three wanted to be on camera... That's why.... I'm not complaining though. Quite nice
Im doing this in 3 days! Wooh. A bit nervous..
That was fun.
hi everyone i am sorry i have not answered all your questions that have been posted on here. I have been extrememly busy the last several months running My Exercise Science facility. I recommend that everyone continue to leave comments and questions on the video or about exercise physiology, and i will answer them for you all very soon.
His point was exactly the opposite, his point was that VO2 max is dependent on a number of variables including, but not limited to being massively obese. So, in the mean time, keep being massively obese. I'm sure that there is a promising boxing career in your future.
198 heart rate????? This guy looks about 25 years old which would put his maximum heart rate at about 195 so he would have to be running at over 100% his Max to hit almost 200 BPM.
His maximum heart rate is whatever they measure it at, not what a general formula gives him. The formulas are well known to be very inaccurate.
I still don't know what "Clutching at straws" means. I'm just repeating what you said here: Some people do like being pushed, it's fat lazy people who don't!. And YOU are the one that said that, NOT ME. You think the equation is true [Don't like to be pushed = Fat and Lazy]. May be the equation is [Don't like to be pushed = would rather walk than run], [don't like to be pushed = can't run] I was looking up female stress tests since females are NOT small men. Found this video by accident!
Just so prinecornerkick knows, I found this video by accident. I was looking up stress tests for women since woman have a different equation for the stress test. I didn't come looking for this video and I didn't say "Oh let me find a video I hate so I can troll on it". That is stupid. Just don't assume that all people that can't run 8 miles an hour are fat or lazy. My mom can't run 5 mph and she is neither lazy nor fat. You made a blanket statement which is a big over-generalization.
the test was too easy for ryan! He either wanted more speed or an incline.
Sa sert a quoi ??? svp
Quand tu travailles sur ton '' Vo2max '' ca l'augmente la performance ,le coeur va battre beaucoup plus lentement pour le meme effort initial!
That made tired just watching him
This is what you said: "Some people like to be pushed" THEN YOU SAID ""IT is FAT AND LAZY people who don't". MY MOM does not like to be "pushed". I don't like to be pushed either. So to me or my mo don't like to be pushed that must mean we are= fat and lazy. According to you ALL people that don't like to be pushed are = fat and lazy. We are NEITHER fat/lazy. We do NOT like to be pushed. So your equation is false. Not all people that don't like to be pushed are fat or lazy. Just your opinion
NO, you have to be fucking tall
What a waste... no findings or whatsoever...
You're seriously clutching at straws love. Again, grow up!
so cringe
Yeah, my mom is 5 foot 5 and about 110 pounds. Oh wait. . .she's not "fat" at all. She wears size 4 pants. But, wait. She can't run like this video either. Well jeez. I guess my mom is just LAZY according to you, right? But what you didn't know is my mom is 60. Welcome to life. You will age to. Not everyone is "fat" like you say.