i really appreciate the fact that you went back to the "basics" after you walked us through more long term self reliance such as trapping, smithing, etc. here is a a trick that usually works for me when it comes to working with any type of grease/oil. i usually make bannock out in the woods and add my grease or oil into the water when i heat it to about luke warm. it helps me mix everything that much better and faster. keep up the great education.
Nice. So many people are so concerned with light weight and minimalist survival that they forget that the people who actually HAD to live like this would never choose to be without just for the sake of a little more weight, they would find a way to bring creature comforts on their treks. Pack animals, wagons, pull carts like your tub sled, etc. there is no sense in being miserable when you can "smooth it", to borrow a phrase from you. Another great series. Semper Fi
Hey Dave, after watching this episode I thought of a historical woodsman staple that many frontiersmen carried with them as a regular staple as well as a Civil war staple and that would be ' Hard Tack'. I would like to know how to make Hard tack to carry and eat as a staple for bushcraft. Thanks to you and all at WildernesOutfitters for all your video series and knowledge. Outdoormentor24 Peoria, AZ
Top notch video, Dave. In my opinion, many people vastly over estimate the amount of game they are likely to take in an emvergency situation. So learning how to make good use of flour, cornmeal and beans is imperative. The little oven would be great for corn bread, too. Woundn't be hard to make one of those ovens. Lots for folks to think about.
Dave, I will throw in my 2 cents worth. When making whole wheat bread, use 1/2 whole wheat flour with 1/2 regular flour and it will be much lighter and less dense. This recipe is very much like bannock and no yeast is needed. Infact you could add brown sugar and dried fruit or raisens if you wanted a treat. Also dried eggs to fortify it for more nutrition.
We made a reflective solar oven using only aluminum foil, a few sticks for a frame, and duct tape to hold it all together. It took a couple of hours to bake a loaf of bread but it turned out pretty good. I imagine one could also be made from a $2.00 emergency space blanket. Of course you need a sunny day. This oven unit is great for just about any weather as long as you have a campfire.
I've been reading Horace Kephart's writing for a long while now, and his life in Appalachia. I have a few of of his books, more recently American Frontiersman magazine's premier issue featured an article on Kephart. They showed what he used and the modern equivalent and where to purchase it. Also I would like to add that if you want a reflector oven common man, you can make one out of a 3 quart olive oil tin, by sawing it in half and cutting the other half to fit into the other.
Little tip for the bread Dave, if you use both bowls at the start of your baking, the bread will steam itself and you'll get a nice crust, and then half way through the crust will have set up and you can take the lid off to let the bread finish baking, if you have butter you can brush a little on the crust to make a nice butter crust bread!
Hey Dave, thanks for the demonstration of the Old Scout Reflector Oven, I also picked one of these a few months ago and I excited to use it this summer. I also agree with you about that bag it comes in, do you know if the Haversacks will be back in stock any time soon?
Enjoy seeing the old ways as in it does still rules the way we pass down from generations past of how we were raised still in practice of ranch style cooking down here in Texas on the Lazy S ranch doing it every day and more so during calving season of the spring...we as also do alot with bannock & tortillas as well. Our camp kitchen is the now stationary old chuckwagon. So as to making fire? We still burn our cooking fires with cow dung.Depending alot on who's doing the cooking and any compliants? Becomes an automatic nominee of who's cooking next. Lol. :) Cya!
Hey Dave thank you for another excellent video. Also thanks for being so prolific. You put a lot of good content out there and I for one really appreciate it.
That reflector oven is such a good idea, though have you thought about getting the outside of those dog bowels painted or smoked black? They would absorb much more heat that way. I love those lightweight bowels to cook just about anything, i've even filled them with coals and used them as a small cooking surface, and with few holes drilled in, you can carry a fire for miles. that clip thing to make a lid was genious! Wish I had though of that!!!! Much love to you and your family and friends
Hi Dave, I've seen where some of the old " Yankee Bakers " had a wire trivet on the shelf rack that had a wire connected to it and projected out the side to spin you food while you were cooking. Just a quick pull and a push and you have turned your food. They also say to keep the fire High / Roaring while your cooking and there is no time limit, It's done when it's done! Thank you
Awesome addition to a base camp/cabin type event,maybe a trip with a group,not for a scout or three day hike for sure.It could free up some time for other things while it cooks because it's burn free for the most part unlike a skillet i'm guessing.I like it for a power failure option.
well That thing is pretty cool. Ive done some wet/dry baking in my pathfinder cup. Like the idea of the two dog bowls clamped together. Need to try that.
Heh, I've not seen a reflector oven since I was in boy scouts. We used to make them using aluminum foil and a couple of sticks. Would have been nice to have one like this one. :D
Great new vids Dave. I am a fan of this dog dish setup per your early vid, I have one and may get another with clips like you show. I got mine red hot in testing with a little al stove! Added water quick just made a little dent in it. I cut up a tin can for a stand using snips, and a few other mods to it like flatten an edge, add wire to insert knife for handle, I posted vid on it.
There’s a book called ‘Just Bread’ (I think) and it’s good to differentiate the main 2 types of bread baking; yeast recipes and this type which is basically bannock. Then your biscuits……then practice and adjust for field recipe and cook kit. That’s what I did and it has served pretty well as I had a lot of experience with meat, etc but very little in baking….especially bread.
Hey Dave! I like this product but as your rule of multi-use goes for the stove, do you think it would work well also as an impromptu kiln? Would it even be capable of getting hot enough for that you think? Let me know what your thoughts are.
Can to tell me if you are still happy with your Tractor Supply Trail Wagon ATV? The reviews are mixed and was wondering how yours is working out? I might pick one up if they are reasonably reliable. Thanks.
In terms of subsistance living, wild yeast can be harvested from just about anything. Obviously you'd go for the yeast off wild berries or grapes or something like that, and it'd be something more easily done in the spring summer and fall months.
Hey dave you mensioned making flour out of acorns Can you do that in one of your video's along with other stuff you can use to substitute other ingrediates. I enjoyed you video on making the bread in that reflector oven. Couldnt you use just tin foil as a reflector
sidebar dave...where can i look for coal for sale besides in bulk 1 ton hauls...any suggestions. im a canuck who became interested in blacksmithing just because of your vids. keep up the great work!!!
This is a very similar recipe to my Irish Soda Bread (Butter milk instead of water) which is a lot wetter when it goes into the oven, I think your 1/3 of the water content was a little off, 16 divided by 3 is about 5 and 1/3 ounces, not the 3 and a bit ounces you used in the video. More liquid would make the bread rise a little bit more and avoid the 'sad bread' that Kephart mentioned in the book. Great video and I'm going to try and make my own Reflector Oven based on the one in this video, I might even post a video of the build after I've finished it ;)
A couple good uses when it starts to go stale. It is good to thicken soups & stews. Or, bread pudding. Chunk it up in a small pan. Mix an egg, a little milk, sugar, vanilla, & cinnamon, pour over the bread and bake.
After watching this video, he's just making a rustic Irish Soda Bread with an improvised Dutch Oven. I like the idea of the paper clamps on the sides. The key with baking: when using Baking soda, or Baking powder, less kneading. If you make yeast bread, more kneading! You can also make a sour doughbread too. You would first need to make a yeast culture, a few spoons of flour and some water with a dash of salt, Keep it warm 80~90 deg... Theres more involved though. Google sourdough culture...
we did kielbasa, hot dogs most likly you broil meats in it and fish! we didn,t have mush back then when we where scouts btw great vid keep your powder dry!
Are solar cookers coming up soon then? This is a cool trick from another reputable youtube channel about common man solar cooking- Eat the Weeds Episode 71: Solar Cooking Thank you Dave.
Miners in the old days would make their own sourdough yeast culture, let it dry out. and put in in a satch and wear it around their necks, to make sure that other miners wouldn't steal their valued sourdough.True story! Some things were more valued than gold.... Sourghdough was one of them. This is how the famous sourdough industry in Northwest got started... The gold rush....
I wonder if a sheet of polycarbonate or green house glass across the front would increase its efficiency. Also is you were to cover the bowl with a damp rag and let it sit near enough to the fire for a bit, it'd probably give you a real nice rise. Just my 2cents.
The recipe called for kneading the tallow in cold. It is called the "biscuit method" by bakers. It makes the bread flakier, and more delicate. Also, over kneading the dough will over work the gluten strands and make your bread tougher. Sorry, I'm a chef and a food nerd in addition to an outdoorsman...lol
next time use a fork to cut in your grease its a lot easier,and if you use whole wheat flour i would use more bakeing powder. whole wheat is harder to rise than white flour because of gloutin content. I love reflector ovens when out in the bush.
U need to Iris to coach u a little on cooking skills,some thimgs on cooking will confuse the common man but needs to be done! Cut in the grease is when the drippings are cooled and solid u cut and mix till all dry is blended with the dry. Use of a fork makes your action look like cuts in the flour and grease.U cut and mix till all the dry is small lumps then add water. Patting the mass into your pan is mashing out thr air bubbles.LOVE YOUR Videos. GOD bless you and yours, y
p.s. i also mix the salt and baking powder into the water so i avoid salty spots and evenly coat the flour with baking powder. give it a try and see what you think
So this is pretty much a ghetto biscuit. The reason you use cold, solid fat in a biscuit is because the small balls of fat make the biscuit flaky. It is more work to cut in the solid fat, but it'll give you a better result in the end. All you have to do is cut the solid fat so that you are left with a crumbly mixture before you add the liquid. A fork completes the task pretty easily.
i really appreciate the fact that you went back to the "basics" after you walked us through more long term self reliance such as trapping, smithing, etc. here is a a trick that usually works for me when it comes to working with any type of grease/oil. i usually make bannock out in the woods and add my grease or oil into the water when i heat it to about luke warm. it helps me mix everything that much better and faster. keep up the great education.
Nice. So many people are so concerned with light weight and minimalist survival that they forget that the people who actually HAD to live like this would never choose to be without just for the sake of a little more weight, they would find a way to bring creature comforts on their treks. Pack animals, wagons, pull carts like your tub sled, etc. there is no sense in being miserable when you can "smooth it", to borrow a phrase from you. Another great series.
Semper Fi
Hey Dave, after watching this episode I thought of a historical woodsman staple that many frontiersmen carried with them as a regular staple as well as a Civil war staple and that would be ' Hard Tack'. I would like to know how to make Hard tack to carry and eat as a staple for bushcraft. Thanks to you and all at WildernesOutfitters for all your video series and knowledge.
Outdoormentor24 Peoria, AZ
A survival show saved a young boy life last week. Keep the knowlege flowing.
Thanks for the inspiration Dave. I'm getting out my old Dutch oven and cleaning it up!
Top notch video, Dave. In my opinion, many people vastly over estimate the amount of game they are likely to take in an emvergency situation. So learning how to make good use of flour, cornmeal and beans is imperative. The little oven would be great for corn bread, too. Woundn't be hard to make one of those ovens. Lots for folks to think about.
Dave, I will throw in my 2 cents worth.
When making whole wheat bread, use 1/2 whole wheat flour with 1/2 regular flour and it will be much lighter and less dense. This recipe is very much like bannock and no yeast is needed. Infact you could add brown sugar and dried fruit or raisens if you wanted a treat. Also dried eggs to fortify it for more nutrition.
We made a reflective solar oven using only aluminum foil, a few sticks for a frame, and duct tape to hold it all together. It took a couple of hours to bake a loaf of bread but it turned out pretty good. I imagine one could also be made from a $2.00 emergency space blanket. Of course you need a sunny day. This oven unit is great for just about any weather as long as you have a campfire.
I've been reading Horace Kephart's writing for a long while now, and his life in Appalachia. I have a few of of his books, more recently American Frontiersman magazine's premier issue featured an article on Kephart. They showed what he used and the modern equivalent and where to purchase it. Also I would like to add that if you want a reflector oven common man, you can make one out of a 3 quart olive oil tin, by sawing it in half and cutting the other half to fit into the other.
Hey sarge when are you and Dave going to get your own tv series? You two are bullet proof, thanks for what you've done for me and my family! !!
Little tip for the bread Dave, if you use both bowls at the start of your baking, the bread will steam itself and you'll get a nice crust, and then half way through the crust will have set up and you can take the lid off to let the bread finish baking, if you have butter you can brush a little on the crust to make a nice butter crust bread!
Old school "Dave" video, the best type. Sitting in the dirt, in front of the fire.
Looks delicious! Nothing like warm fresh bread near a camp fire on a cold day.
Hey Dave, thanks for the demonstration of the Old Scout Reflector Oven, I also picked one of these a few months ago and I excited to use it this summer. I also agree with you about that bag it comes in, do you know if the Haversacks will be back in stock any time soon?
Enjoy seeing the old ways as in it does still rules the way we pass down from generations past of how we were raised still in practice of ranch style cooking down here in Texas on the Lazy S ranch doing it every day and more so during calving season of the spring...we as also do alot with bannock & tortillas as well. Our camp kitchen is the now stationary old chuckwagon. So as to making fire? We still burn our cooking fires with cow dung.Depending alot on who's doing the cooking and any compliants? Becomes an automatic nominee of who's cooking next. Lol. :) Cya!
Hey Dave thank you for another excellent video. Also thanks for being so prolific. You put a lot of good content out there and I for one really appreciate it.
That reflector oven is such a good idea, though have you thought about getting the outside of those dog bowels painted or smoked black? They would absorb much more heat that way. I love those lightweight bowels to cook just about anything, i've even filled them with coals and used them as a small cooking surface, and with few holes drilled in, you can carry a fire for miles.
that clip thing to make a lid was genious! Wish I had though of that!!!!
Much love to you and your family and friends
Hi Dave, I've seen where some of the old " Yankee Bakers " had a wire trivet on the shelf rack that had a wire connected to it and projected out the side to spin you food while you were cooking. Just a quick pull and a push and you have turned your food. They also say to keep the fire High / Roaring while your cooking and there is no time limit, It's done when it's done!
Thank you
Great video Dave, keep em coming
Awesome addition to a base camp/cabin type event,maybe a trip with a group,not for a scout or three day hike for sure.It could free up some time for other things while it cooks because it's burn free for the most part unlike a skillet i'm guessing.I like it for a power failure option.
Good video Dave, had to lol watching you put the spoon on the ground then mixing with it! My late hubby used to say, germs cant grow in honey or oil.
ive always loved these little things. this one looks pretty refined too
well That thing is pretty cool. Ive done some wet/dry baking in my pathfinder cup. Like the idea of the two dog bowls clamped together. Need to try that.
Native american used flat rock to make a oven to cook in. The reflector oven has been around since ondreds of years, nice clip Dave.
Heh, I've not seen a reflector oven since I was in boy scouts. We used to make them using aluminum foil and a couple of sticks. Would have been nice to have one like this one. :D
Great new vids Dave. I am a fan of this dog dish setup per your early vid, I have one and may get another with clips like you show. I got mine red hot in testing with a little al stove! Added water quick just made a little dent in it. I cut up a tin can for a stand using snips, and a few other mods to it like flatten an edge, add wire to insert knife for handle, I posted vid on it.
Thank you Dave another great series i can watch your vids all day long....actually i do that already hahaha, keep them coming sir.
There’s a book called ‘Just Bread’ (I think) and it’s good to differentiate the main 2 types of bread baking; yeast recipes and this type which is basically bannock. Then your biscuits……then practice and adjust for field recipe and cook kit. That’s what I did and it has served pretty well as I had a lot of experience with meat, etc but very little in baking….especially bread.
Hey Dave! I like this product but as your rule of multi-use goes for the stove, do you think it would work well also as an impromptu kiln? Would it even be capable of getting hot enough for that you think? Let me know what your thoughts are.
Can to tell me if you are still happy with your Tractor Supply Trail Wagon ATV? The reviews are mixed and was wondering how yours is working out? I might pick one up if they are reasonably reliable. Thanks.
Great video Dave... that bread looked pretty good too.
Thanks
In terms of subsistance living, wild yeast can be harvested from just about anything. Obviously you'd go for the yeast off wild berries or grapes or something like that, and it'd be something more easily done in the spring summer and fall months.
Hey dave you mensioned making flour out of acorns Can you do that in one of your video's along with other stuff you can use to substitute other ingrediates. I enjoyed you video on making the bread in that reflector oven. Couldnt you use just tin foil as a reflector
sidebar dave...where can i look for coal for sale besides in bulk 1 ton hauls...any suggestions. im a canuck who became interested in blacksmithing just because of your vids. keep up the great work!!!
Like your history lessons ... more of that...
Do you think with a little peace of Plexiglas that could be a solar oven? Might have to have some make shift insulation around it but....
I love the cooking videos!
Just curious Dave, why don't you carry this book and Nessmuck's book in the store?
Thanks Dave... Another great one... I'm such a moron... I was thinking "reflector oven" meant it was going to be "solar". This was very informative..
This is a very similar recipe to my Irish Soda Bread (Butter milk instead of water) which is a lot wetter when it goes into the oven, I think your 1/3 of the water content was a little off, 16 divided by 3 is about 5 and 1/3 ounces, not the 3 and a bit ounces you used in the video. More liquid would make the bread rise a little bit more and avoid the 'sad bread' that Kephart mentioned in the book.
Great video and I'm going to try and make my own Reflector Oven based on the one in this video, I might even post a video of the build after I've finished it ;)
Great video! I Would love to see a camp cookery about keeping, packing and cooking different types of bacon.
Love this series! Thanks for doing it.
A couple good uses when it starts to go stale. It is good to thicken soups & stews. Or, bread pudding. Chunk it up in a small pan. Mix an egg, a little milk, sugar, vanilla, & cinnamon, pour over the bread and bake.
After watching this video, he's just making a rustic Irish Soda Bread with an improvised Dutch Oven. I like the idea of the paper clamps on the sides. The key with baking: when using Baking soda, or Baking powder, less kneading. If you make yeast bread, more kneading! You can also make a sour doughbread too. You would first need to make a yeast culture, a few spoons of flour and some water with a dash of salt, Keep it warm 80~90 deg... Theres more involved though. Google sourdough culture...
Some dandy fine lookin bread there man. would have went great with my soup today
we did kielbasa, hot dogs most likly you broil meats in it and fish! we didn,t have mush back then when we where scouts btw great vid keep your powder dry!
Dave what camera do you rec your vids with about to buy a camcorder online
Was that baking powder or corn starch as the container suggested?
Are solar cookers coming up soon then?
This is a cool trick from another reputable youtube channel about common man solar cooking- Eat the Weeds Episode 71: Solar Cooking
Thank you Dave.
so awesome! i just may check this out & add to my bug out bag for a just in case scenario!!
i wha ch yor survival show and its mint man love it
I'm thinking a bit of butter milk (during cool weather) would make that bread wonderful, especially with some Mayhaw jelly.
Yeah i have seen a few solar cookers that had glass or plastic to increase inside temp.... and the base would be Matt Black
Miners in the old days would make their own sourdough yeast culture, let it dry out. and put in in a satch and wear it around their necks, to make sure that other miners wouldn't steal their valued sourdough.True story! Some things were more valued than gold.... Sourghdough was one of them. This is how the famous sourdough industry in Northwest got started... The gold rush....
The baker tin you were talking about.. Why not just use 2 bread loaf tins ?
I wonder if a sheet of polycarbonate or green house glass across the front would increase its efficiency. Also is you were to cover the bowl with a damp rag and let it sit near enough to the fire for a bit, it'd probably give you a real nice rise.
Just my 2cents.
The recipe called for kneading the tallow in cold. It is called the "biscuit method" by bakers. It makes the bread flakier, and more delicate. Also, over kneading the dough will over work the gluten strands and make your bread tougher. Sorry, I'm a chef and a food nerd in addition to an outdoorsman...lol
verry nice set up. just need some squirel gravy to go with it
I'm a little confused. Did you put the other dog bowl on top while cooking or not? I didn't see it in the video.
next time use a fork to cut in your grease its a lot easier,and if you use whole wheat flour i would use more bakeing powder. whole wheat is harder to rise than white flour because of gloutin content. I love reflector ovens when out in the bush.
Is there anything special about that aluminum? I work in a metal shop, that looks pretty easy to make.
I'd like to see you make a loaf of acorn bread if you haven't already :)
very cool dave i did not mo this! thanks man!
would it be stupid to put it on some hot coals also so that some heat would come from the bottom?
Nice stove. Try to add some dry east to your flour next time. You will get a realy lush bread.
U need to Iris to coach u a little on cooking skills,some thimgs on cooking will confuse the common man but needs to be done! Cut in the grease is when the drippings are cooled and solid u cut and mix till all dry is blended with the dry. Use of a fork makes your action look like cuts in the flour and grease.U cut and mix till all the dry is small lumps then add water. Patting the mass into your pan is mashing out thr air bubbles.LOVE YOUR Videos. GOD bless you and yours,
y
Brother you just made a really big baking powder biscuit. :)
gotta show this to my wife pretty cool....
Enjoyed it!! Gordon Ramsay of the woods lol.
Neat item to have!
Looks good,, I want some, lol.
almost eaxctly the same recipe i use for bannock. just need some rasbery jam and i would be livin good!
Mr. Canterbury, a fork is best to "cut" in the grease for lump free dough.
p.s. i also mix the salt and baking powder into the water so i avoid salty spots and evenly coat the flour with baking powder. give it a try and see what you think
So this is pretty much a ghetto biscuit. The reason you use cold, solid fat in a biscuit is because the small balls of fat make the biscuit flaky. It is more work to cut in the solid fat, but it'll give you a better result in the end. All you have to do is cut the solid fat so that you are left with a crumbly mixture before you add the liquid. A fork completes the task pretty easily.
Very nice thank you.
Try preheating your oven also use a tall fire.
oh yea im getting one
Two pie pans clamped together would work as a cooker. if you don't want to carry doggy bowls.
FYI there's 3 teaspoons in 1 tablespoon.
some honey with that bread would be good
Wow Dave that's a big bag of salt, don't tell me that's what you take out scouting.
Add powdered milk and you're sorted
more like a biscuit than bread
go to jas townsend youtube cooking. he shows this.