Dont listen to these fools. The s650 is going to blow people away once tuning becomes available. Its already breaking records on stock tune, i saw a video of headers only on stock tune, and cstted headers at that gained 40 wheel horsepower just with headers. It made 504 wheel horsepower... thats insane gains for stock tune car, un heard of actually. Keep that s650, i might even buy one myself... this is coming from an s197 owner to.
The owner's manual says DO NOT use fuel with more than 15% Ethanol. So basically you can only use a little E85 as an octane booster. What he is doing will void your warranty and damage your engine.
Mustang runs in closed loop and running up to e30-e40 on a stock car is totally safe. It will correct fueling for it via the fuel trims. It will allow you to get all the timing allowed by the stock calibration.
Not as wild as you think. Once you learn how the coyote computer manages fueling via wideband o2s and fuel trims, its pretty simple. And most modern cars have this same setup now.
It's a 2024 car with 2024 tech. Modern ECUs and O2 sensors have enough dynamic fuel adjustment to compensate fuel trims to get the right stoichiometric AFR for basically whatever is in your tank (within reason). Like anywhere from 10:1 to 20:1 range, pure gasoline being 14.7:1; and pure E100 being 9:1. E40 in a Mustang is pretty aggressive and COULD result in a lean condition so I'd probably keep it E25-E30 until tuning is available. The Ford owner's manual states E15 max, but that's a load of crap lol
Bro. You can not just add ethanol without a tune. Will it run, yes. But you are slowly but surely damaging that motor. And your warranty will not cover that motor that you damaged. Stop before it’s too late.
I actually like the louvers lol but I know some are just not a fan of them. Mine has the same style and I think they add aggression to the body from the side. Love your stang brotha! 👍👍👍
You aren’t getting much performance unless it’s tuned and I run full e82 but my s650 will have very little gains on e30. Now I get you are doing testing which is cool so I’m not hating it’s just new mustang owners might not know. That’s good you mentioned the E30 blend but it should only be E30 or lower because ethanol is 107 octane vs 93 octane so ethanol will damage your injector seals and dry things up if it’s not ethanol compatible. The fuel pump can fail with too much ethanol.
Great vid, but if I was you I would just run 93 until you can get a real e85 tune.. Don't ruin your brand new car over 10 or 20 HP... And honestly I wouldn't roll race a manual not against all the DCT's and those 10 speeds that are out now.. Make them dig race you if anything and hope they pedal it...
The ecu automatically adjust the fuel trims and timing in the s650. All you know it all do some research on these dudes testing these "duds". There are people that are running twin turbos with 6psi safely.
My man did the calculation completely perfect. Kudos man. I been blending 93 and E for years and you did it exactly right.
Dont listen to these fools. The s650 is going to blow people away once tuning becomes available. Its already breaking records on stock tune, i saw a video of headers only on stock tune, and cstted headers at that gained 40 wheel horsepower just with headers. It made 504 wheel horsepower... thats insane gains for stock tune car, un heard of actually. Keep that s650, i might even buy one myself... this is coming from an s197 owner to.
They are going to be monsters once tuning is available
The owner's manual says DO NOT use fuel with more than 15% Ethanol. So basically you can only use a little E85 as an octane booster. What he is doing will void your warranty and damage your engine.
I think you need a tune with any e-fuel added. And also you need a little bit of practice on shipping those gears and rubbing up to 7500.
Mustang runs in closed loop and running up to e30-e40 on a stock car is totally safe. It will correct fueling for it via the fuel trims. It will allow you to get all the timing allowed by the stock calibration.
Them stangs a cheat code. Adding any amount of E with no sensor is wildddddd
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Not as wild as you think. Once you learn how the coyote computer manages fueling via wideband o2s and fuel trims, its pretty simple. And most modern cars have this same setup now.
It's a 2024 car with 2024 tech. Modern ECUs and O2 sensors have enough dynamic fuel adjustment to compensate fuel trims to get the right stoichiometric AFR for basically whatever is in your tank (within reason). Like anywhere from 10:1 to 20:1 range, pure gasoline being 14.7:1; and pure E100 being 9:1. E40 in a Mustang is pretty aggressive and COULD result in a lean condition so I'd probably keep it E25-E30 until tuning is available. The Ford owner's manual states E15 max, but that's a load of crap lol
Only note I can give you is to do the E first to get that perfect E level in the tank, then immediately top off the tank with 93. Dont do 93 first.
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Nice ride! Just got a 24 GT 10r80. Lowered it and did a muffler delete
I’m ready to lower mine. Patiently waiting for a tune 🫠
Saw you went to the track, have you dyno'd at all? In the area if you ever want to run a 4 door b58.
I have one on order and doin a whipple. U can also put a good octane booster in w the 93, like vp octanium and not use e. Keep testing!
Bro. You can not just add ethanol without a tune. Will it run, yes. But you are slowly but surely damaging that motor. And your warranty will not cover that motor that you damaged. Stop before it’s too late.
They are flexfuel bro
@@kriscrews1339fake news
@@kriscrews1339no there not lmaoo
I believe you are going to see way bigger gains when you TUNE with ethanol, if you just add ethanol very little will happen unless tuned for that fuel
Maybe a 5-7% increase in performance without a tune -
You can't apply Street chemistry (guess work) without a tune. Stick with the 93 or 94. What fast 650s do you see running E-85 only without a tune??
I actually like the louvers lol but I know some are just not a fan of them. Mine has the same style and I think they add aggression to the body from the side. Love your stang brotha! 👍👍👍
You aren’t getting much performance unless it’s tuned and I run full e82 but my s650 will have very little gains on e30. Now I get you are doing testing which is cool so I’m not hating it’s just new mustang owners might not know. That’s good you mentioned the E30 blend but it should only be E30 or lower because ethanol is 107 octane vs 93 octane so ethanol will damage your injector seals and dry things up if it’s not ethanol compatible. The fuel pump can fail with too much ethanol.
Try running 40 to 140
You’ll get more consistent results imo
Especially for that high and mighty 60 to 130 number
S650 will go kaboom! 😂
Yeah no it wont. But you wouldnt know that because clearly you dont know shit about coyote tuning.
i love you and your videos
Nice video but holy shit the 6speer s650 is slow compared to the 10r80. I have a 24 10r80 and my car would walk this
It’s my dragy and I didn’t even know there was a custom mode 😭
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how'd you get that camera set up bro?
I put my GoPro in the rear window
Dude you're adding E-85 without a tune? Wow! You do know without a tune you're hurting the motor right?
Driver mod needed
What app for e85?
Gone ahead and blow it up lol
What radar do you use?
Uniden R8
Need tighten up tht shiftin bud
Great vid, but if I was you I would just run 93 until you can get a real e85 tune.. Don't ruin your brand new car over 10 or 20 HP... And honestly I wouldn't roll race a manual not against all the DCT's and those 10 speeds that are out now.. Make them dig race you if anything and hope they pedal it...
damn i’m in cali i only have 91
Doesn’t 91 still have 10% ethanol?
Your shifting is so bad you need to improve it
It gains nothing because you can't tune it that's why the 24 is a dud until it can be tuned don't waist your money.
The ecu automatically adjust the fuel trims and timing in the s650. All you know it all do some research on these dudes testing these "duds". There are people that are running twin turbos with 6psi safely.
Sell it and get an s197 or an s550 man. S650 is a dud