[ELDEN RING] Ash of War Poise Tier List Version 1.12 Shadow of the Erdtree

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  • Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
  • 0:00 Intro
    0:45 Super Armor Tier
    1:44 Tier 1350
    2:27 Tier 500
    3:35 Tier 350
    3:59 Tier 300
    4:47 Tier 250
    5:08 Tier 200
    5:41 Tier 180
    6:26 Tier 150
    8:01 Tier 120
    8:32 HA Level Three Tier
    10:03 HA Level Two Tier
    10:49 Nothing Tier/Outro
    BGM In Order of Appearance
    Street Fighter 6 - Training Stage Theme
    Street Fighter 6 - Genbu Temple Theme
    The 25th Ward The Silver Case - Match Maker
    The 25th Ward The Silver Case - Sandalwood
    Fire Emblem Engage - Enjoy the Evening, Divine One
    Link To The Tier List:
    x.com/StrugglerVA/status/1806...
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  • @StrugglerVA
    @StrugglerVA  Місяць тому +8

    Correction. When using kick with the bullgoat talisman, you can poise through the 2h running heavy attacks of greathammers and anything that does less poise damage.

    • @kylethompson3259
      @kylethompson3259 Місяць тому +1

      Can you do a video on unique ashes of war? I would like to know about the sword of light or the sword of dark in particular.

  • @zawarudo8991
    @zawarudo8991 Місяць тому +130

    Current state of pvp: welcome to hell

    • @ALUCARDTWILLIGHT
      @ALUCARDTWILLIGHT Місяць тому +13

      Lol you think pve is hard, pvp is like impossible

    • @Mr._Galaxywide
      @Mr._Galaxywide Місяць тому +3

      I would recommend the greatsword of damnation, makes invasions SOMEWHAT playable.

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  Місяць тому +25

      So much broken stuff for fromsoft to fix

    • @815TypeSirius
      @815TypeSirius Місяць тому +3

      ​@strugglerva4401 i have been extremely unpleased as a co op bro. It seems like either invader or host die instantly depending on who is using bs or who hits first.

    • @ALUCARDTWILLIGHT
      @ALUCARDTWILLIGHT Місяць тому +8

      @@815TypeSirius sigh I'm telling you bro it's hell in these streets, have you tried arena. It's basically who has the swifter slash

  • @eclipzex77
    @eclipzex77 Місяць тому +20

    The Palm Blast having both Super Armor AND God Tier damage is so funny to me.

    • @KNGDDDE
      @KNGDDDE Місяць тому +1

      With the additional of crucible and fire knights... it's needed lol

    • @EntericFox
      @EntericFox Місяць тому

      Yeah, what a choice. haha

    • @Marx_D._Soul
      @Marx_D._Soul Місяць тому

      "Yeah, keep swinging dumbass, let's see how that works out for you."

    • @dudeiii2069
      @dudeiii2069 Місяць тому +2

      Even funnier aspect of the crucible wings where you fly up in the air does barely any damage and have no super armor

    • @KNGDDDE
      @KNGDDDE Місяць тому

      @@dudeiii2069 how evasive is it?

  • @ejdspihrne2496
    @ejdspihrne2496 Місяць тому +21

    The red passed the vigor check

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  Місяць тому +6

      And the damage reduction + fashion check

  • @VonSchnitz
    @VonSchnitz Місяць тому +12

    Excellent video bro, thank you for this resource!

  • @TheMegaTucci
    @TheMegaTucci Місяць тому

    Daaamn we missed you! Thanks for all the valuable information you provided 🔥
    I hope to see a video dedicated to colossal swords soon 🤩

  • @Buddyguy1988
    @Buddyguy1988 Місяць тому +1

    Hey man sick!!! straight to point video I love your style , earned a sub

  • @mikkoto2135
    @mikkoto2135 Місяць тому +4

    Bro kick looks crazy, like it’s the perfect counter the the dueling shield for any build that doesn’t already have a way to deal with them

  • @LokiBeckonswow
    @LokiBeckonswow 11 днів тому

    Instant upvote for this video, thx!

  • @cykrya5156
    @cykrya5156 25 днів тому

    Extremely helpful vid, thanks!

  • @av1dd408
    @av1dd408 Місяць тому

    great resource! thank you for your effort and work! subbed.

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  Місяць тому

      my thanks, glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @ALUCARDTWILLIGHT
    @ALUCARDTWILLIGHT Місяць тому +2

    Thank you so much bro this is a god send

  • @NutsFromBerk_
    @NutsFromBerk_ Місяць тому +18

    Bro you're back 😭😭

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  Місяць тому +2

      I’ll try to make more elden ring vids haha

  • @MrTim3443
    @MrTim3443 Місяць тому

    Good video, you're earned a sub

  • @TheDoomsdayzoner
    @TheDoomsdayzoner Місяць тому +8

    I need the list of the ashes that INFLICT most Poise Damage. Can anyone show me such a vid? Please?

    • @anitaremenarova6662
      @anitaremenarova6662 10 днів тому

      Anything with a knockdown or launch animation interupts any HA outside of superarmor. You're welcome.

  • @Ratt611
    @Ratt611 Місяць тому +1

    Very useful guide tyvm

  • @CrusaderLogan
    @CrusaderLogan Місяць тому +1

    Great content that I subscribed for! I'm hoping you'll put out some colossal weapon invasion/duel guides out at some point those are some of my favorites to watch personally. They're hard to use.

    • @TheMegaTucci
      @TheMegaTucci Місяць тому

      I Hope so too

    • @anitaremenarova6662
      @anitaremenarova6662 10 днів тому

      Sadly you're going to have to use an offhand club or something, you will never beat anyone halfway competent with one otherwise. It's crazy to me how shafted this weapon category got compared to colossal swords.

  • @tak8850
    @tak8850 Місяць тому +17

    Giant hunt:" You're just a cheap fking nock-off"
    Fire Skewer" No no no. I'm the upgrade"

    • @KNGDDDE
      @KNGDDDE Місяць тому

      Does it do fire dmg as well? I wonder if it's split

    • @michaelbowman6684
      @michaelbowman6684 29 днів тому +1

      @@KNGDDDE It probably does both on the initial hit and pure Fire on the heavy attack follow up. It's a Flame Art Ash of War, meaning the damage of the followup will scale with your Faith and the Faith scaling of the weapon, making Flame Art much better than Fire or Heavy.

  • @DUES_EX
    @DUES_EX 29 днів тому

    Can’t wait for more vids

  • @bananacorn4375
    @bananacorn4375 Місяць тому +8

    I didn’t even know the buttslams have superamor!

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  Місяць тому +6

      Yeah its really funny countering aoe spells and skills by sailing tbrough the air and sitting on someones face

    •  29 днів тому

      @@StrugglerVA truly, one of the most fun images my head can imagine :D

  • @Datravan
    @Datravan Місяць тому

    Great write-up! How does the rakshasa's ash of war "weed cutter" fit into this?

  • @lapusso3704
    @lapusso3704 Місяць тому

    excelent video, can you make one for incantations that have hyperarmor?

  • @matakaji412
    @matakaji412 Місяць тому

    Welcome back King! Best AoW to counter Swift Slash?

  • @GoToBedSheeva
    @GoToBedSheeva 29 днів тому

    THANK YOU!

  • @TKBadMoon
    @TKBadMoon Місяць тому +1

    The hero we all needed

  • @Elijah557
    @Elijah557 29 днів тому

    Can you do a similar video on poise damage rankings of the new ashes of war, spells, and incantations? As well as poise levels for new incantations and spells? Would be epic

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  29 днів тому

      Working on it soon, got another one coming out on weapons and how things have changed since 1.10

  • @sahencan
    @sahencan Місяць тому

    Hes back

  • @NickyKick
    @NickyKick Місяць тому +1

    Very useful vid, thanks !
    How much frames on the stamp AoW btw ?

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  Місяць тому +3

      The initial part or the follow up? Also what frames are you referring to? Hyper armor or super armor?

    • @NickyKick
      @NickyKick Місяць тому

      @@StrugglerVA The initial one, you said it requires "frame perfect" input, I'm curious to know how hard it is to get it

  • @sturmmagnunstein1008
    @sturmmagnunstein1008 Місяць тому +1

    Need to get a buff to many old AOW! Im very optimistic as FS has shown time and time again that they are listening!

  • @joshualuurtsema5806
    @joshualuurtsema5806 Місяць тому +1

    Can you do one for stance damage dealt? The information is so hard to find

  • @Braylenc123
    @Braylenc123 Місяць тому

    flame skewer is my favorite ash of war right now. that shit wrecks

  • @glimmerxp
    @glimmerxp 26 днів тому

    Goat

  • @leonardo9259
    @leonardo9259 Місяць тому +4

    They powercrept a lot of things, death's poker, giant hunt, lions claw, the thorn sorceries, quickstep, BHS, most colossals (well that isnt a high bar), full bullgoats, vykes dragonbolt, frost dragon breath, rosus axe (again not a huge loss lol), dual curved swords and the claymore
    Just off the top of my mind

    • @Chonus
      @Chonus Місяць тому +5

      Well some of the examples you chose are not necessarily strictly better, for example ghostflame ash has terrible dmg compared to its version on the deathpoker, and savage lions claw has to hit with both parts to have comparable stance dmg to regular lions claw which is 36. It’s better and easier to just use lions claw twice for almost double the stance dmg than what SLC can do in its best case scenario.

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  Місяць тому +4

      I really was taken aback by the inclusion of eternal sleep pots and greases. No clue why they felt we needed a new sleep status that does slightly more fp damage to opponents, but hey more sleep consumable are nice i guess

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  Місяць тому +4

      @@Chonus savage lions claw is just way better imo. The bane of having to hit with both parts of the stance isnt as bad bc hit 1 will true combo into hit 2 (and some quick offhand weapons) also, after the initial leap, you can cancel into crouch, guard, and attack way faster than with regular lions claw. This opens up a few more opportunities for aggression depending on what defensive option your opponent chooses. Try to crouch cancel after the initial leap and follow up with a crouch poke to contest roll ins, and a crouch running heavy to contest roll outs. Has helped me out quite a bit. However, lions claw pancaking on the initial strike is very valuable in some situations

    • @Chonus
      @Chonus Місяць тому +2

      @@StrugglerVA Those are some good points for pvp, although my post was only in regards to pve, should have clarified.

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  Місяць тому +2

      @@Chonus both shred through enemy posture health in pve, i always keep a greatsword with both lions claw and savage lions claw, it may be a little excessive haha

  • @impatientimp3292
    @impatientimp3292 27 днів тому +1

    unique weapon skills poise tierlist coming?

  • @DUES_EX
    @DUES_EX 29 днів тому

    Hey VA, the Fire Greatsword is a colossal that combos into itself.
    Aka if one R1 hits, you get another free. Totally busted. Someone killed me with it and I’m like wtf

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  29 днів тому

      I know! Crazy right? Theres a lot of broken stuff and developer oversights in this patch for sure

    • @DUES_EX
      @DUES_EX 29 днів тому

      @@StrugglerVA yea they are def gonna release a fast ass patch 😂

  • @tosfriendly
    @tosfriendly 23 дні тому

    ayo where do I check the hyper armor for unique weapons? Is it somewhere in the motion value spreadsheet cause i cant find it

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  23 дні тому

      @@tosfriendly the unique weapons should have the same values tied to their weapon class. The unique weapon skills however are still being worked on. I should have that video out by next Saturday if all goes well

  • @climhazzard115
    @climhazzard115 Місяць тому

    For the HA Level Three Tier, where can I learn the hyper armor values of my weapon? I probably shouldn't put chilling mist on my milady if I want it to have some hyper armor?

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  Місяць тому

      chilling mist would still be pretty good for milady i think, the buff alone is super worth. Probably wont be able to trade with most weapons though. Im using cheat engine to find out the poise numbers but chilling mist on milady will give you a flat 60 poise which is added to your armor poise, and will reduce incoming poise damage by 35%

    • @climhazzard115
      @climhazzard115 29 днів тому

      @@StrugglerVA I don't plan to use it for PvP anyways. I run around 51-60 poise so it sounds like it should be enough for me to poise 2 light hits or 1 strong hit in PvE, which is good enough I think. Thanks for your reply.

  • @tomskeleton
    @tomskeleton Місяць тому

    Extremely glad to find out about the poise on Igon's Drake Hunt now, rather than run into it like a dumbass later

  • @team3kakarot436
    @team3kakarot436 26 днів тому

    How do you make your Dragon slayer swing so fast?

  • @SpeedeyFreaks
    @SpeedeyFreaks Місяць тому

    Ah man I wish this included the poise damage ashes of war do as well... well it was somewhat helpful.

  • @GeorgeBigglesworth
    @GeorgeBigglesworth Місяць тому

    im really curious about the unique ashes or war. like golden crux, solitary moon slash, white light charge etc...

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  Місяць тому

      Thats on the to do list. Need a whole video for all the unique weapon skills

  • @adradox
    @adradox Місяць тому

    Does kick's values benefit in any way from new DLC talisman? The one that improves kicks.

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  Місяць тому

      As far as i know, i believe you get like a little more damage on kick. From like 25 to like 37 or something. Super insignificant

    • @adradox
      @adradox Місяць тому

      @@StrugglerVA That's a bummer. Thanks!

  • @huseyinakkoc1062
    @huseyinakkoc1062 9 днів тому

    does this hyper armor added aour armor ?. so if ı have 50 poise and use troll roar. will ı have 550 poise? so with bull goat ı can even withstand againt 2h collossal heavy jump atk. if only calculate on 500 poise it is not enough.

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  9 днів тому

      @@huseyinakkoc1062 sorry for not clarifying, the poise value that is displayed is the FINAL value you have during your hyper armor. Armor poise does not matter at all when using the skills that have a numerical value displayed in the left column of the tier list. If your armor poise is 50, your bonus for troll roar will be 500. If your armor poise is 0, your poise bonus for troll roar will be 500. Trolls roar and the rest of the numerically labeled ashes will reduce incoming poise damage by 50% which essentially allows you to withstand 1000 poise damage

  • @glimmerxp
    @glimmerxp 26 днів тому

    Can we get a video on the poise ranking of the new weapon types in the dlc ?

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  26 днів тому +1

      already ahead of you. drops this Saturday i believe

    • @glimmerxp
      @glimmerxp 25 днів тому

      @@StrugglerVA yeah you’re the goat ty !!

  • @xbenas
    @xbenas 18 днів тому

    Is there a list of all Ashes of War that regenerate your poise when used?

    • @anitaremenarova6662
      @anitaremenarova6662 10 днів тому +1

      Anything that uses a numerical value on this list, you're welcome.

  • @brokendoop
    @brokendoop Місяць тому

    rip this video when the first patch comes out

  • @NutsFromBerk_
    @NutsFromBerk_ Місяць тому

    Hey man can you do a vid about the best ashes of war from the dlc for ultra greatswords?

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  Місяць тому +1

      Might have to do an update including all the ashes of war. There are only 25 ashes that were added in dlc and to my knowledge, only a handful of them are usable on colossal swords. And an even larger portion are locked to specific weapon classes

    • @NutsFromBerk_
      @NutsFromBerk_ Місяць тому

      @@StrugglerVA could you make a vid about those ashes of war and how to use them at their fullest? Like you did for the sweep and upper cut Ash of war

    • @DUES_EX
      @DUES_EX 29 днів тому

      Dude in PVE all colossal ashes pretty good. It’s only PVP, where a lot of ashes fall short

  • @Christopher12200
    @Christopher12200 Місяць тому +3

    Bleed will poise break (savage) lions claw

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  Місяць тому +6

      Dammit, i completely forgot to mention the segment about status effects in this vid. I think bleed, frost, and other burst type status effects will interrupt most attack animations (and even dodge animations) dont know if they fixed that yet or even touched it. There are a few things that arent in the patch notes that were changed in patch 1.12

  • @estrellian7095
    @estrellian7095 Місяць тому

    what RL is this?

  • @gwynimpostor
    @gwynimpostor Місяць тому +1

    fun fact: swift slash breaks you out of endure

    • @anitaremenarova6662
      @anitaremenarova6662 10 днів тому

      No it doesn't, you just don't know how to time it right/got bled which cancels even superarmor.

    • @gwynimpostor
      @gwynimpostor 10 днів тому

      @@anitaremenarova6662 yes it did pre patch , dont know rn

  • @WeeabooPocky
    @WeeabooPocky Місяць тому +2

    man... they didn't touched spinning strikes in the last patch (except for the "bug" with bloodflame blade incantation), that aow is almost useless in pvp.
    also i've seen that a some of people uses phantom slash as a "trading tool", it seems that the phantom appears on frame 1, so if you trigger the AoW just before getting hitstun, the phantom will appear, and depending on the reaction of the opponent, it will stager him so you can take advantage of it with one of your own attacks.

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  Місяць тому +2

      Charge forth and spinning strikes should really get buffed. I wish fromsoft put me in charge for pvp balance lol

  • @KNGDDDE
    @KNGDDDE Місяць тому

    Its funny you said rip Giant hunt, the new ash didnt feel as good.
    The speed takes away from the (insert Igon dialouge) part 💀😂😭

    • @anitaremenarova6662
      @anitaremenarova6662 10 днів тому +1

      It's still better for PvP while giant hunt remains king in PvE. The infinite stunlock from humanoids getting back up and higher stance damage is invaluable.

  • @hayonflame1574
    @hayonflame1574 Місяць тому +2

    bro how does palmblast have so much poise like, ur just a guy looking at your hand for 2 sec

  • @conievel9285
    @conievel9285 Місяць тому

    I only play pve but thank you for your service o7

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  Місяць тому +1

      Anything that uses super armor absolutely trivializes pve

  • @AfternoonWolf
    @AfternoonWolf Місяць тому

    Wait.... How'd you used Gravity Thrust with Greatsword? 😮

    • @anitaremenarova6662
      @anitaremenarova6662 10 днів тому

      You can use it on colossals. Combine with bleed infusion and ironjar/blackflame protection to trivialize the game.

  • @JOJO-kh9ck
    @JOJO-kh9ck 25 днів тому

    Great video...Now make a list of best pvp weapons in 1.12

  • @bbbarham6264
    @bbbarham6264 Місяць тому +1

    “Shadow” of the Erdtree

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for pointing that out. Fat fingered my keyboard haha

  • @ringsaround6961
    @ringsaround6961 Місяць тому

    I don't care who they send. I'm not getting staggered.

  • @dr.bright2446
    @dr.bright2446 Місяць тому +3

    The dlc is hot garbage and extremely underwhelming! Anyone aggree?

  • @Personell101
    @Personell101 Місяць тому +2

    I still gotta finish the dlc, but I’ll be back here when I’m done 🫡

    • @StrugglerVA
      @StrugglerVA  Місяць тому +2

      Godspeed! May no spoilers come to you

    • @Personell101
      @Personell101 23 дні тому

      @@StrugglerVAgreat vid, thx :)