Unveiling the Mind of Jung: A One-Hour Typing Special | INTP Male
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
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12:26 This is such a big point Rose is making. As an INTP one feature or ‘thing’ that so often makes me feel that people are SO different from me, is that in all my - let’s admit it - constant analyses, including those of myself, my approach is incredibly ‘clinical’ and disconnected.
Not a new or contested point by any means, but hearing it explained by experts here just hit me, in terms of my recurring worry of ‘if they REALLY knew just how impersonal I’m showing up in this conversation, they’d think I’m a cold hearted freak’.
45:16 “See… the word believe… that’s a difficult word for me.”
This and the rest of his passage hit hard when I (INTP) heard it the first time. It was the ONLY time I seriously wanted to purchase as specifically made T-shirt with personalized words printed on it. It almost made me cry the first time I heard it, that’s how strong I resonated with him. (Obviously I never even got close to carry out that T-shirt plan in real life)
To Chris and Rose, I want to take the time to write this because I consider myself a friend of you both. .Over the past two years your videos gave me the infrastructure to understand myself and my loved ones. I currently do not know how much time I have left because I was recently diagnosed with a brain tumour called glioblastoma multiforme. however I currently have all of my faculties. I want to express a few things to you both before my right hippocampus gets blasted with radiotherapy . Your videos and kindness to me have allow me to foster enough self love that I had to choose what psychological type to reincarnate as I might even ask to come back as an ISFJ. I know it sounds very morbid but I would be interested during this period to hear your thoughts on what would be the ideal attributes to thrive if I can make a deal with god in a second iteration of life. for example, being born in a first world country with high industriousness and low neuroticism would be an amazing start. Also having strong in group solidarity would be very helpful. but i would loved to hear your intuitive thoughts I know this is a weird request and don’t want to make anyone feel pressured but I thought you might find it interesting as intuitive dominants. I want to say you a huge thank you for allowing me to give personalised compliments to all of my friends and family members who have been looking after me. For example, highlighting the purity of my ESFJ sisters FE dominance has meant everything to me. I am sorry for offloading this onto you but thought it was a good thing to let you know what major influence you have both been on Me. If what I have revealed is a bit too emotional and you don’t want to reply I will totally respect this .Type book to the moon 🌑
We are so overcome with emotion right now. This news hurts us both very badly. I found your email on your channel. Would it be okay if we emailed you to continue this conversation?
@@typebook absolutely :)
Hi guys, I’m not sure if my comment about my email auto deleted . But I was wondering if you could do a type video on Mike Tyson. I sm trying to become a man of war to fight this illness. And also if I subscribed to a paid membership whether you could make some specific video requests? I would love to hear more about Roses intuitions / experiences on her bond with her ESFJ mom as I saw your video about how she used to make thanks giving very special for you and it touched me because it reminds me of my sister. I want to hear roses thoughts about this to support an ESFJ during this process as it is ruining her life. I would also love to hear Chris’ intuitions on how I can support my ISTJ dad during this time as everyday I see his tertiary Fi suffer and don’t know what I can do go help him. And I know Chris’ dad is also an istj. So would be willing to pay for your insights on how to help me navigate this to make my relatives lives easier, sort of in the same vein that CS Joseph does. Thanks rose and Chris for chatting. I hope to hear from you guys soon.
I emailed you - did you get it?
@@typebook no
This was a very interesting one, getting to know the person who's created that theory we're all using !
I agree with your typing (and his actually) and can't as usual understand how consensus came to the INFJ Type. It's pretty obvious after only a few seconds that he's a thinking dominant type. I can only guess that people concluded INFJ because he's interested in psychology, so he must be INFJ, without even having taken a look at him.
I had a pretty good laugh at how playfully he answered the question about his own type, would have loved to see the interviewers reaction though.
Looking forward to the video about Freud, the way he describes him definetely points to an STJ type.
I think the human part about psychology may be an F thing, but categorizing people into logical categories like they're (living) objects is a more T aspect about it.
@@PowerRedBullTypology I agree. I think that's what many people don't think about or get wrong. They probably assume that interest in people/psychology equals F and even Fe more specifically.
I loved this whole video, I hope you do more long videos like this.
When he talks about having trouble with the word 'believe' and says he doesn't need to 'believe' because he 'knows', and then later says that he can't believe for the sake of believing, he must have sufficient reasons for a hypothesis and then he can accept it, is that specific to Ti or do Te users also think like that? Or is it not related to any specific functions?
Yes, I think the way he speaks to this is extremely Ti dominant, with the ISTP being exactly the same. It's not that Te thinkers are not objective thinkers, or that Ti thinkers are, it's more of a case of Te users just having a different metric of measurement for this. There is more than one way to skin a cat. Jung speaks of thinking and analysing to find out what is true or believed, but for the most part there is no reason to think in this manner for an Fi user, it is felt. Hope this makes sense. -Chris
Interesting, I think it does make sense. Would it then mean that it’s easier to track Ti users beliefs and what they think is true about them selves, other people and the world, because it’s stringed together by logic ‘if this, then that’? compared to Fi users that feel their way to beliefs and truths, and therefore it’s not as obvious why or how they get there, because feeling ‘just is’ so it’s more about accepting what ‘just is’. And maybe sometimes not wanting to accept what ‘just is’.
Am I on the right track or could some of it apply to either?
interesting video idea!
34:16 Yes! As INTP (also) the moment he declared those letters as unimportant, my itching to read them fell to zero.
I wonder if this is an example of the same dichotomy or phenomenon: I work in a level 1 trauma hospital, so dramatic and crazy modes of injury and tragedy is part of our job. However, every time I sign out about a particular case, always with focus on technical detail and relevant complex issues, many peers will respond with something like: “Well, was it a family member?!”, or “Did they know each other?!”
Not only do I find such irrelevant ‘rumor-type’ comments irritating, I even find them a little disgusting. Which I assume maybe would seem quite weird and surprising by a high Fe user, such as INFJ.
It might only seem weird and surprising for an INFJ who is not used to INTP. Even then, I'm not quite sure because of the intuitive connection. -Rose
No more new videos?
This is great -- the psychological type of the creator of Psychological Types.
Typing suggestions: Osamu Dazai (most famous japananese author, wrote "No Longer Human", I suspect INFJ (I see Fe and Ni +Ti loop).
Add Marie-Louise von Franz to the list. Hypothesis intp.
You couldn't have picked a more appropriate or cooperative subject for a typing lesson, and the systematic breakdown goes a long way toward demystifying the art of cognitive function typing. I do find it a bit vindicating that the man himself stated quite emphatically that personality type is not a static thing, but something that changes throughout the lifespan. Hmm, HMM.😉 I guess we can leave a bit of room for interpretation on that account.
As an (provisional) INFJ I, like Rose, am struck by Jung's awareness and certainty of knowing who and what he was at age eleven. While I have had revelatory moments, a few of them quite intense, without a solid Fi anchor I find myself adrift among many perspectives. Like a spider hanging by a thread from the top of the enneagram chart, gravity tends to hold me suspended in the gap at the bottom, but strong winds can carry me to visit many positions and perspectives, but I can never call any one of them home. At 57 I still can't decide what I will be when I grow up. Like Jung, I end up having to rely on Ti and Intuition (Ni for me) as a means of stability and to steer into the waves of Fe. I cannot "believe", so I must "know".
And now that you've opened up the first bottle of Jungian vintage, could you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE with a shower of rose petals do an analysis of Robert A. Johnson? I recently became acquainted with him the morning after I met him briefly in a dream (yeah, I know how it sounds, it freaked me right the hell out, too). I've watched a few video interviews with him, and there isn't a whole lot out there, but I am floored by just how similar his attitudes are with some of my own, especially considering the wide generational gap. I "think" he shows a lot of indications of being INFJ, but then there are other indications from some of his stories (he's stuffed his loafer in his mouth on occassion) that cause me to think maybe INFP. WHAT SAY YE?
You meet people in dreams too? And here I thought I was the only weird one... 😆
Thanks for the recommendation. Why are there so many interesting people in the world?! We will add him to the fascinating people list. We really need more time in a day!
Brazenly jumping the opportunity to explore my theory on how INTPs and INTJs deal with the question of RELIGION differently. To clarify, this was not specifically discussed in the video, but Jung’s words on death (and bit on god) made me think of it:
I posit that non-theist INTJs such as (my guess) Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Alex O’Connor (British philosopher and UA-camr) just can’t stop trying to convince everybody how irrational it is to believe in a god. It’s crazy how for instance Sam H has squandered his bright mind on this topic instead of solving other more worthy problems.
On the contrary, I get the sense that the typical anti-theist INTP (me included) deal with this issue early on, then … well, move on. I’m in my 50’s and the last time you caught me actually trying to convince someone of my agnostic/atheist viewpoint was in my early 20’s.
I don’t fully understand it, but categorize it with INTJ seeming (via what they say and how) more steadfast, determined and ALWAYS logically driven, whereas INTP come across more open-minded, flexible, shifty even, and with their strong opinions and endless harpings being more about their own personal theories (Ti) and less about views commonly held by the ignorant masses, irrational or not.
Excellent observations! I think this is definitely about the thinking/feeling functions. They are strong motivators to action. It might come from a different place (Fi vs. Ti for instance) but an injustice is an injustice. It’s the *reasons why* and *motivations for* which drive people to act in the ways they do.
INTPs can engage in this kind of behavior as well - take a look at Crispin Glover. He spent years fighting the injustice done to him in the “Back to the Future” movie series. He did not let it go until the Screen Actors Guild changed the rules of the game. Something tells me he would have fought it for a long time until he got resolution. Look at what happened to Bobby Fischer. Have you read his biography? INTP get very invested when it’s a personal injustice. Even Carl Jung said he wanted to seriously harm that teacher who accused him of plagiarizing. How old was he when this interview was made? It was obvious he never forgot this injustice since he was still talking about it.
In other words, there is something *personal* in it for Christopher Hitchens and there is something *personal* in it for Crispin Glover. The *personal* just comes from a slightly different source.
Thank you for your comments! -Rose
Jung said he was "characterized by thinking"
First thing is that you're assuming he means "thinking dominant."
Second thing is that this is a genetic fallacy, you're assuming that Jung was right about his type being primarily thinking because he had such great theories and contributions to psychology.
Third thing is that if we're going to assume both main functions are oriented as introvert, INFJ is Ni and Ti, followed by Fe and Se. Comparatively INTPs have Ti Si, and as you showed, Jung was not a sensing type, nor did he say anything about introverted sensing in his interview.
This is an incredibly poor typing video, especially basing it mainly off of one video interview with Jung talking about himself. If this were a real typing session, this would be considered horrifically bad because you're not relying on cognition.
Yes, because he might have meant characterised by feeling, intuition or sensation when he said "characterised by thinking".
It is obvious you don't understand Psychological Types. Why would anybody assume both main functions are introverted when it's not the theory? If it's not source material, it isn't the theory, and if Jung doesn't understand his own theory, why are you here?
You continuously mention the fact Jung didn't mention cognitive functions, as if Jung would have had to have said "yeh bruh I'm an intp, a ti dominant" for it to be legitimate evidence for what he is telling us. If you are going to comment about Psychological Types, at least attempt to understand what it is about first and how Jung would have termed and phrased his ideas. Your comment is full of misinterpreted ideas of Psychological Types, perceived through a modern MBTI lens, which to be frank, is a joke. -Chris
Seeking Fi…
So there I was…at my wits end, but didn’t even know it. The short version of the story is I never wanted to manage other people, but knew it would force me into my shadow, so I did it anyway. The longer version is I use to manage a seafood department during the “Pink Flamingo Sickness.” I’m not gonna go into the details, but think about it this way; whoever “The Man Upstairs, Darwin, The Fill in the Blank” is…in hindsight, “it” was basically holding my feet to the fire. “Okay…I gave you Ti and Fe, but now I’m gonna force your hand to show you that you’re not nearly as good as you think you are.” It was a half past five in the morning on a Monday, which was normal because I would always come in early on Mondays to do sales changes and to reset the case for the new week. I stumble in, still half asleep and come to find that the entire frickin seafood case froze into a giant block of ice overnight, for there was something screwed up with the refrigeration. Mind you…this is like the thousandth and one thing that went wrong over a year’s timespan; but I did the only thing I knew how to do, which was put my head down and grind.
The best word I can think of to describe what happened next is eerie, because I simply just didn’t see it coming. So I’m chipping away at this frozen case to remove the ice buildup. I have a mallet in my right hand, and a chisel in left. Each swing of the mallet was more ferocious than the last as I threw a housewarming party for the cortisol pumping through my veins. I’m pissed…not just at the shitty situation, but the months of aggravation and the failures on my end that led up to it. My anger starts to buy me some progress, as I fill a half dozen garbage cans with frozen blocks of ice, which I then drag outside to the dumpster. Then…I suddenly caught the eye of a fellow colleague of mine, a high Fe user. He didn’t say anything to me, for he was too afraid to, but his eyes looked washed out…as if he was partaking in the situation, even though he was just watching from afar. I probably held eye contact with him for 3 seconds, if that, and then…whoosh…like a spark touching gunpowder, I cracked…and tears started to stream down my face.
You’re probably just as confused right now as I was, for why the hell am I crying? It’s a sh*t situation which I have dealt with a million times. I’m the steady flame in the hurricane, not you! I’m the one who thinks his way out of things, not you. It just didn’t make any sense. But this was different…this was hellaciously violent crying; the kind of crying that actually frightens a spectator of it. Not only that, but I couldn’t stop and sort of lost my breath. Again, nothing even remotely similar to this has ever happened to me before. My Brother drove me to a walk-in medical clinic and on the way there, all I could think about was “how the hell did this happen?” The doctor eventually see’s me and asks me “what’s going on.” I paused for what felt like an eternity…then looked at him and said “I don’t know…I guess I just took one too many bullets, and didn’t realize I was bleeding.”
At this point, I still didn’t know anything about Fi, which is not sadness or distress by the way, but at least I was starting to figure out that I had a blind spot, for how could I be caught so off guard. I didn’t know what to do, but I was definitely embarrassed, and quite frankly…didn’t trust myself anymore. What I mean by that is…I can’t remember a situation where I wasn’t able to think my way out of it. Something told me that my favorite tools in my mind chest were not the answer, so I put in my two weeks and took a couple months off (actually it was closer to a year).