Looking at the charging rates on a 2014 Tesla Model S 85kWh when charging at 8% state of charge
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- The early Tesla Model S cars have had their charging speeds reduced in an over the air update, to prolong the battery life. In this video I charge the car at a Tesla Supercharger when the battery was at 8% state of charge and look at the charging speeds.
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Good to see it's not just ours that charges slow ! Thanks for doing this one.
No problem 👍
@@GoGreenAutos do you like the fact that at some point all Ev s can charge at tesla superchargers becouse when I’ve been with my model 3 it was packed with tesla s
Lol about free gas fuel. You’d take it if it was slow. You are right about that. I get free charging as well.
VERY informative! Thanks for posting!
Glad you found is useful.
I keep my P85D pack at +20% and under 90% and I charged it to 100% last week and it reads 478km range, that's great really, I don't care about the speed.and still totally free for life
Mmmm interesting... I was wondering if my 2014 Model S 85 was charging at the normal speed... as it is very slow... and it seems to be as slow as yours but it doesn't feel "normal" to me. I've had many Tesla before but not as old and the charging speed was much higher. I won't pay 13k for a new battery on a car that's worth 30k...
By another one I suppose
Our 2013 Model S charges at rate (kW) = 120 - SOC%. Ie. at 30% state of charge we get 110-30=80 kW. But our Max charge rate is limited to 90 kW not 120 kW because we have the first A generation battery pack
Same here I have a 2013 p85. How many miles on your battery?
The darker it got the clearer the screens were I thought, so I enjoyed it.
One 2020 Pearlecent blue Ioniq 38kW safely delivered this morning. Very exciting, drives like dream, love the regen paddles, tech baffling so leaving that to others 🤣. Neighbours envious 😁👍
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@@GoGreenAutos oh thanks so much Matt, they were all really helpful. We really struggled with the maps and nav on the car yesterday. It seems unaware of local chargers and greys out letters when you try to type them in. I had heard that in-car systems were not the best but hadn't a clue how to implement Android auto!
You'll get at least one more watch out of us when I show my wife and probably more if we muck it up the first time 😂
Cheers Matt 👍
@@judebrown4103 You need to update your nav & media unit. Its probably never been done. See ua-cam.com/video/Kt5Km-4tvGM/v-deo.html
Thanks for the video. Actually really helpful
Yeah but hasn't this car got a new battery in it about 3 months ago?
Yes, it was 8-9 months ago. But the warranty replacements are new as such, just "remanufacturered"....i.e. refurbs. The charging system is still throttled back on all these older Model S though, so that is what the video demonstrates.
I hear the combustion engines in the background lol
My 2014 S 85 RWD will charge at a max of 40 amps, though I had a 60 amp breaker installed and have a Tesla Wall Connector. The car will not charge at 48 amps. My question is whether 40 amps was the maximum for this car when it was built with a single onboard charger. Thanks.
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Are the 22kW chargers working at this location Matt ?
Everyone's video's about the park & Ride seems to talk about the Rapids, But as yet no information on the other 22kW on this site or if they even work or cost.
Not a lot information on Zapmap or plugshare about them either.
Thanks 👍
Yes they are working. I was talking to a couple who was charging on them a few weeks ago. I suppose there's not much chatter about these as they're not getting used by many. As for pricing, I don't know. It may be on the Wanea website.
just bought my father a p100 tesla model s 85d
do you now use tesla to charge the ioniqs? if so, do you pay the monthly fee to get cheaper charging rates?
I've done a few videos on charging the Ioniq at various Tesla Superchargers, see www.youtube.com/@GoGreenAutos/search?query=ioniq%20tesla
You can pay a monthly subscription for cheaper electricity, but that's only worth it if you intend to use their network regularly. I don't subscribe to any charging network scheme as I rarely use DC rapid charging. I just pay as you go.
Just wondering, you said you watch Netflix etc when you wait,have you had an upgrade to the MCU or can my 2017 do that too?
Yes, I've had the MCU2 upgrade in my 2014 MS. Its well worth it.
No, no, no
Don't give tesla a pass. Don't get me wrong, I love my 2015 85D. Best car I've ever owned and I've own a lot of good cars.
But they sold us a car that was supposed to charge faster and then changed the speed with no compensation.
They didn't do it to help us. They did it So the batteries wouldn't fail during warranty.
I drive from Ma to fla a couple of times a year and because it charges so slowly, it adds 4 hrs to my trip.
They did it for them not us.
To your point, it does charge faster than others of that time period but I didn't buy those others. Nor did those others cost $101k
A long time ago I had a Dyson washing machine and its unique selling point was that the drum twisted (two halves that moved opposite ways). Every time you had (out of warranty) repairs by Dyson, they would then warranty the whole machine for a year. We had a few issues with controller circuit boards, which they came and replaced. One visit, they reprogrammed the machine and removed the twisting drum action, so it then operated like any other normal front loading washing machine. This was because they found it was causing excessive wear and they no longer made the drums. It was annoying to lose the main USP of the machine, but it did mean we had a machine that would last longer and we probably had a few years more life out of the machine.
Tesla are doing exactly the same. I'd rather long term life/reliability, but then my Tesla is out of warranty, so that is more important to me. My compensation I suppose, is the free supercharging. Other manufacturers wouldn't be so proactive and just leave you in the lurch.
But if your Tesla is still within the warranty period, I can see why you feel different about this.
My P85 MS owned from new now 130,000 UK miles did fry its battery at 75,000 miles due to a long term un diagnosed coolent leak, on v hot day at 70 mph officer it reported oveheat and went into a 60 mph snail mode. It didnt let me down, got home, on my PC was an email from Freemont 2am their time saying "we have detected a battery fault, arranged a replacement please call ......." New battery fitted 2 days later, leak diagnosed as 4 way valve under the frunk and it came with slower charge rate. Most of my charging is done from my solar at about 20 miles a day in the car which is at 5 Amps my battery should last forever! Any road trip I free supercharge so Im pleased Tesla have been proactive and it babies my battery, super cheap to run high performance car 0-60 4 seconds good to me.
Excellent service there from Tesla.
@@GoGreenAutos Yea it shocked me, clearly they were monitoring cars from day 1. Servic had reported "we have topped up the coolent" I always said "if it needs topping up wheres it going?" but unfortunately there was not a lot of co ordination in service in the very early days which to be honest I expected and figured I know my way round cars and electrics so worth a punt. In 2015 no one could figure how such a big good looking car had no engine let alone how fast it was, perception has changed, now near 10 years from UK launch time passing forces more and more acceptance these old Teslas keep on going. Chester Team said they will keep all the "classics" running and if faced with a modification need it will develope it. I had a TPMS ECU give up and was told "we dont do that one anymore" I thought ok here we go ill have to sort it but they said give us the car for up to 10 days we will provide a free loaner an we will develop sub harness and software to take the latest ECU/Dash display, you just pay for the parts. My claim to fame that mod was developed on my car and now is distributed through the rest of the world for other classic owners as is Tesla policy......surprised I was for sure, just makes me want to keep my classic P85.
Just a question: do you also have also that the reversing LED lights are not burning as brightly and is there anything i can do about it?
The reversing lights on my MS are next to useless. But I assumed because they only have reversing LEDs in one lamp cluster. I've not considered if they are dimmer than when new. I've looked up the parts (at epc.tesla.com/) and you can only buy the complete light assembly.
Where can I get the adapter from and what is the price and is it safe to use it on a ZOE?
You can't. Firstly, you can't charge a Zoe on DC current, unless it is a ZE50 with CCS. All other Zoes are AC charging only. Secondly, these CCS adaptors are for Tesla Model S and Model X vehicles only and the adaptor is only half of it as there is also a ECU fitted under the seat to make it work.
@@GoGreenAutos thank you
Im getting a new 85kw put in my 2013 model s. Because tesla doesnt make 85kw for the S anymore, my new battery is actually a 100kw that has been software reduced to 85
Under warranty or paying for it? I guess software locking it is a good idea, because it leaves a larger buffer than normal, so your battery should last longer.
That is false a 100 pack won’t fit in a 85. They can give you a capped 90 pack and you can unlock it for 2k
@@Dlongmusk 2K?? Is that £ or $? Even so, 2K is a lot for 5kWh extra. I looked at a 2014 Model S P85 yesterday and this had received a new pack just before the warranty expired this year and Tesla had put in a 90kWh pack and apparently not restricted it. On the main screen, it now shows the car as a P90 too.
@@GoGreenAutos $2k but mine just got redone with a 90 and they didn't charge me to uncap it. I'm sitting at 291 full charge.
So how long did the whole charge time take for you then in this instance from 8% to the 76% charge you did? Are you still hitting those same charging speeds today?
I'm looking at possibly getting an older model s but we will be apartment living for about 10 months so would need to rely on superchargers before we get our home.
54 minutes. there is clock under car on drivers screen and in top right corner in center screen. He started at 21:30 - finished at 22:24...
I can see that adding 40kwh (for something like 200km?) takes 40minutes... its rather slow i think... I was thinking about old tesla, but now i think that saving a little bit more money for 75d/90d will be probably better idea...
They have slowed the charging, even though you have had a new motor and battery, so its not super old?
"Remanufacturered" pack - so not completely new, just refurbished.
@@GoGreenAutos Aha!
Hi Matt hasnt yours got a new pack? I had an old p85 and it was very slow, 50-60kW.
Yes it has, but charging rates haven't changed. The new pack is a "remanufactured" pack and from what I understand, its just a circuit board that fails in these original 85kWh packs (probably in the BMS), so while its a new pack to me, the actual cells wouldn't be new and could even me worse than my original. Since it was changed, there's absolutely no difference in charging, range etc. I've just rapid charged again today from 17%-80% and it took 1 hour 2 mins - because I ended up paying for parking as was over an hour, which cost me £2.20 (at Oxford charging hub).
Did you still own your Tesla? (You are writing in a past tense) I bought my S70D last October and it charged very slow, I complained to Tesla service and they quickly found out that one of the two coolant pumps was defective. After an 2000NOK repair it is charging now way faster. Well worth the money I would say 🙂
@@EwoutSchalkwijk Yes I do. That's good they found the issue and something I will check with mine when I next have the frunk out.
Cant, you watch the charging speed on your phone
Yes you can. But I was using my phone to film this.
Britts still drive on the strong side of the road and stegring wheel on the wrong side 😅 so conservative.
It’s on the “right” side for a reason 😂