I really wish people would stop acting like PC gaming is some sort of super complex, esoteric thing. Even if you don't wanna build a PC, you can still buy prebuilts. And installing games is by no means complicated either. It's as simple as downloading Steam, signing up for a free account, buying your game, downloading it, and then clicking "play." But you have articles like this making people think it's rocket science.
Fun fact - the XDA literally doesn't stand for anything. It's just a name they cribbed from something else. They put as much effort into the name as they do with their articles.
Pretty sure it was named after a Windows mobile PDA device that they first crashed the forums to discuss. The forums used to be great when I was into Android rooting/ROMing, but the new site is just like every other gaming/tech blogs.
@@tlingitsoldier Yea you're correct. Those were the good days and they showed superiority of android customization with rooted apps and flashing OSes such as LineageOS for an unbloated fast stock android, longer OS lifespan and privacy focused OS including a stock android camera which made your pictures better than the OEM from samsung etc
@@Tr4yst3r That's the studio's fault. 30 fps games coming bach and bad PC ports / insane minimum and recommended specs have the same roots. The new engines and the games built with them are made to take PS5's and Xbox Series' Zen 2 CPUs as the lowest common denominator, not weak Jaguar CPUs. During 8th gen devs reduced the workload for CPUs as much as possible. New games put RT, more CPU-heavy graphical effects etc onto the CPUs. The games don't even look better, they just made differently. And devs decide that 30 fps was enough so they don't have to optimize more. The only 30 fps games who have a justification are TotK on Switch due to the weak hardware and Starfield on Xbox Series due to the CPU-heavy simulation of the game world.
>online gaming price hikes >new game price hikes >still no full backwards compatibility >still 30 fps >1 or 2 first party games a year to make up for it watch out it's evolving too rapidly
Consoles: Barely change specs for several years, games usually stuck at 30 fps, lack of customization of settings PC: New CPUs, GPUs, motherboards, RAM sticks and power supplies every 1-2 years, games usually able to reach 60 fps with entry-level hardware, proper ports have tons of graphics settings
Gamers playing games, regards playing platforms. Nothing changes. I have pc, I have a fucking shelf of consoles, I have a fucking steam deck and I respect any form of gaming if it fits player needs. (Mobile players not gamers btw). But when I see crap like this I just get pissed off. Special Olympics as it is.
Most of the "PC exclusives" are actually indie games that the developers simply doesn't have the resource to port to console. They aren't purposely being locked behind a paywall to boost sales to a hardware-inferior machine. And the programming in PC gives the devs a lot more flexibility in actually coding and designing their game. That alone is already worth much more than a console.
@@lieutenanteclipse9975And then there are also a bunch of PC exclusive games that just wouldn't work on consoles without a massive rework of the control scheme
I'm a 1080p 60FPS gamer, but I DID opt to buy a 4080 just for the sake on not having to upgrade for years to come. That longevity alone is well worth the cost, and will easily outlast a console generation while giving me far superior performance and fidelity.
Shit I still run my 1650 Ti on my mid-tier laptop, which I also do my business work on. I don't have many games (especially modern unoptimised shit-on-launch games), and this laptop still runs 1080p 60 FPS more or less fine. Imagine having to buy 2 consoles and another PC just to do what 1 mid-tier laptop can do. I have good confidence that this laptop won't need to be upgraded until it dies. (I did an SSD swap that's about it)
If you ever decide that it's worth it, then I recommend you eventually get even a 1080p monitor with a 120+Hz refresh rate. I can't stress how good it feels to play games at higher frame rates. Especially when you have highly optimized games like DMCV, most competitive games, and so on.
As a oldskool (and currently) pc gamer and as a (very minor) console gamer i agree with the disk argument i have built quite a nice xbox one and xbox 360 game collection through very cheap used disks. On the other hand, steamsales are still the best thing gaming ever seen! The steam summer and winter sales are almost religious holidays for me xD
I feel this. I honestly wish PC gaming still had a physical media scene, I still have most of my game discs from the 6th through 8th console gens. I love collecting stuff like that, it's the one thing I miss about being on console. But that said, the digital PC game market is amazing so it's a worthy trade-off
And the fact these people who make these comparisons ALWAYS ignore the fact that even if you're not buying a PC for gaming, you'll most likely than not be buying a PC for other uses, and spending more on it to also be able to game on it makes gaming PCs cheaper. Like you'll most likely spend at least 800 on a PC for daily use, and can get a decent gaming PC that you can use for YEARS will probably cost you around $2k, making the gaming PC cost only $1200, and you can upgrade parts whenever you feel like you need an upgrade and have the money saved. Add the cheaper video games, and being able to buy/emulate older gen games, etc. to this and it ends up being even cheaper than consoles. And as a bonus, you always get to keep your games in case you ever want to revisit them in the future, and you don't have to physically keep your 5-10 old consoles for the rest of your life to be able to play your old games. I can't imagine what it'd be like to keep all my consoles to be able to play the games I used to enjoy as a kid. Can't imagine needing to physically keep my old PS1, PS2, PSP, Gameboy Advance, Advance SP, Xbox 360, Switch, and PS4 just to play those old games. I even sold my Switch and just use my PC and Steam Deck in place of all those previous consoles I used to own, and I'm still able to play and enjoy all their games with just a PC and Steam Deck without the need of storing and looking after 7+ consoles and making sure none of them is broken for the rest of my life. All these are just the tip of the iceberg of the advantages of having a PC over console, and even just these are enough to make me convince to pay premium and get a decent gaming PC. I won't even go into the details to explain how scummy Sony and Nintendo are. PC, in every aspect, is the more consumer friendly option. Idk if you will even read this, but if you do and agree, I'd like it if you put this coment (or just touch on this subject) on your next PC gaming related video as a counter argument, because everybody I see ignore this very obvious advantage of having a PC. Btw I'm not a PC fan who loses their mind with console wars and shit if this comes out like that. I just HATE the monopolistic and consumer exploitative nature of Sony and Nintendo.
Finally someone gets it. These console fanboys will tell you that they can do other things on an iPad... that costs 1 grand. A pc that does everything saves you so much money in the long run. I can understand wanting a plug and play experience but saying that consoles are better value is just disingenuous. Even a 1650 is better value than any current gen console. It's enough to run most games and also gets shit done.
I did not expect XDA to make rubbish like this ... It's not the first time, Gaming on Linux called them out for their duckery ... They have good stuff for rooting android and resetting iphones. I am disappointed at them as they are tech folk.
Looking through their website it does seem they know what they're talking about outside of the gaming realm. But their gaming articles are hot garbage lol
RE4make, Lies of P, Armored Core 6, Dead Space Remake, and Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart all came out on PC this year. They are all high profile games made by AAA studios and all of them had good to great PC ports, but that's easy to ignore I guess? lol
Capcom in general has been fucking killing it with their PC ports, the RE Engine is a thing of beauty. Every other triple-A company should be using them as an example
@@JoeFromSeattle For real. I was so hyped when I saw that Dragon's Dogma 2 is being made in RE Engine. Definitely my most anticipated upcoming release now that the big wave of 2023 games is over and done with.
its wild that people still try to say consoles are better. i bought my pc in 2016 and just replaced the gpu, motherboard, ram, and cpu because i could afford it. not because i had to. pcs will be more expensive the first time, then you can have the same pc for 10 years without NEEDING to replace anything except a hard drive. pcs have a 1000x more games, better performance, better graphics, and cheaper games.
99% of the games I've ever played on my potato pc just auto spec my shit and make the settings accordingly. I'll maybe change a toggle or two, and that's it. I'm as stupid about PC components as I'm about my console components. I just want play games, and personally find conversation about PC rigs just as cringe as car engine talks. And i like how my PC and and Xbox are intertwined because who gives a fuck about anything just let me play my shit. Sorry for the rant lmao
Hogwarts Legacy on PC was just not optimized well at launch. It wasn’t broken (at least from what I played at launch). People in the community made FPS boosters mods to help in the meantime until the developer fixed the issue. If I remember correctly, it had to do with the shaders.
That sounds more in line with what I was hearing at the time. I didn't play at launch but the worst I remember hearing was FPS issues, certainly not the best port but not at the same level as other really bad port examples
*7 THINGS A CONSOLE DOES BETTER THAN A PC* 1. It makes it easier to limit your access to games 2. Will distract the kids so you can get back to your PC. 3. Better at wasting space 4. Makes for a better weapon when fighting off a burglar. 5 6 7.
I'm a police officer that has responded to burglary cases before. I'm surprised that not a SINGLE time any burglar has even attempted to steal a console.
This article did one thing helpful, it reminded me that email apps are a thing if I want notifications. I just go to the website if I want to check my email, only notifications I get on my PC are Xbox party invites.
Random journo console player: cant be asked to spend 10 seconds adjusting graphical settings Me, a PC _enjoyer_ : *spends days installing mods for skyrim to create the pinnacle of personalized experience*
console has graphical settings ... performance mode and fidelity mode... if that's a big issue for them to fiddle with (you know, giving players OPTIONS on how to play their game) I dont know what to say anymore... idiots like this is why game devs slowly take away (or nerf) settings for pc ports now... 🤦
Skyrim Mods is already the best proof that PC is always gonna be superior than any Console. The ability to download and install ANYTHING, gaming or not, is already miles ahead of consoles. Imagine getting Bethesda paid mods lol.
Consoles ARE NOT cheaper than PC. $60 / yr for online play for 6 years = $360 + $500 for the console = $860, which can get you a solid PC which you can upgrade anytime you want, WHEN you want.
I love going to their forums for all the great resources regarding Android modifications and rooting, which is very much in the spirit of modding on PC. Did not expect a stupid article like that from that site
Did that idiot bring up Starfield as a "Gotcha"? I easily, and EASILY get Starfield running 60+ FPS on my 3080ti at resolutions of 3440x1440p. And I'm using mostly high settings. Yes, in Akila City and New Atlantis, it drops... to 55FPS. OH MY GOSH IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD...
But here’s the thing! Even if you buy the game physically, you STILL have to download the damn thing. All a disc is anymore is just a fuckin key. There’s no game data on it whatsoever. Physical copies are not gonna be around much longer and with file sizes growing at such a rapid pace, there’s no way it CAN be around much longer.
Most people who are this against PC, are insecure ppl whos whole identity is the console they prefer, and most of them are kids or po ppl who cant afford a decent PC
I love how the author of this article talked about PC players having to continuously lower their settings to keep playing on their old rig as if the console versions of recent AAA titles don't run at what would be medium settings on PC at best. Not to mention often being locked at lower frame rates.
Been a pc gamer for 40+ years and a console gamer for almost 50 years!!! Yes, pong does count. Game how ya wanna game, but PC is still superior for exclusives, graphics, and frame rates!!! Also I can sell off old parts to lower the costs of my upgrades!!! Keep up the great vids 👍 !!!
Not really though, basically i use my pc for work as well since i work remotely at home, snd i game on it as well. If you have a pc for work and a console for gaming, you basically have more junk that will end up in a landfill, plus some of these companies go out of their way to make your existing accessories proprietary which forces you to buy a redundant accessories just to use it on a specific console.most gaming consoles lack backward compatibility making your previously own games useless in the next generation forcing you to rebuy it while games on pc carry over to the next gen ( my games on steam is still playable since 2005).
I literally bought a Steam deck as a "first pc" so I could avoid the whole hassle of building a pc. The only serious drawback that came with was a couple of online games not working during the first 3 weeks or so. Fast forward to 2 years after it's launch and the only games that still don't support that i know of are Destiny2, Paladins and Uno...the last of which is odd because Ubisoft already got For Honor working on Steam...lol
Console dudes like to call pc dudes snobs or elitists, but really it's console dudes that care more about graphics and resolution. PC gamers care more about framerates and options. This article proves the console snobbery. Also most don't buy a console for the exclusives, they buy them to play with friends and or the big third party games.
To me the biggest difference between console and PC gaming is the same as "Car guys" and guys that enjoy a winding road on a nice autumn day. Car Guys really like the technical side of things, they like knowing the ins and outs and being able to do work themselves, in that way PC gamers enjoy the customizability and personal connection to their rigs. Console players are more like the guy that just likes having his convertible for an afternoon cruise. He doesn't care that its engine is not powerful, he doesn't care its not the most responsive vehicle, he doesn't want to do more maintenance wise than schedule tune ups and oil changes, in that way a console player just wants a simple box they can drop under their TV, and so long as they buy games with the symbol corresponding to the one kn their box, it just works. They dont want to keep up with or even know what sort of parts are in their box. They dont want to know, or understand minimum specs or how to get the most out of their box. They just want that autmn drive. Neither is an incorrect way to enjoy car ownership. Neither is an incorrect way to enjoy gaming. Anyone who tells you otherwise has either something to gain personally from doing so, or something they need to work through personally.
The problem with that analogy is that Console gamers absolutely do care about how powerful they are, to the point that a lot of attention in console wars are placed on the most miniscule differences in visual fidelity. Console gamers very often fight over which console is better purely on which is more powerful, despite most of the time the two main consoles being neck and neck with each other. And of course this also bleeds into how they view PC. Many of them believe that even if their console ISN'T the most powerful, they so often assume that you need to spend thousands of dollars and constantly upgrade in order to beat the perfornance. And of course you can tell most of them absolutely care, even if they say they don't by how they react when PC gets a port of one of the games that was previously exclusive. If they legitimately did not care, they wouldn't be making bomb threats, and getting so angry. They get mad because they DO care about the perrformance, and many of them buy consoles not because they are satisfied with the performance of the console, but because they believed they needed to buy it in order to play the game. So when they see a game they bought the console for getting ported, they feel as if their purchase has been devalued. Another issue is that this assumes that tinkering is inherent to PC gaming. PC gaming doesn't really require anything more than a console. What PC has over console is that you CAN tinker, but you don't have to. If you have a problem, most of the time it will be something you can easily solve yourself. Whether it is software or hardware, the solution is usually quite simple. PC cases also tend to make replacing and upgrades easy. Like if I want to replace the GPU, I take off the side panel and replace it. I don't have to take everything apart to get to it. You can also just send it in if it is outside of your tech skillset. If a game doesn't work right away, there's a 99% chance that somebody has figured out the solution in the forums. Like maybe you just turn on a setting or drag and drop a file into the folder, even things the least tech literate person can do and it takes all of 30 seconds to fix. If a console has a problem, you don't have the luxury of fixing it yourself a lot of the time. Sometimes you can fix it, like I had to replace a fan on a second hand Switch. It took me about 30 minutes, but required I take the system apart and when putting it back together I had to replace the thermal paste. A lot of the time though, users can't fix the problem easily. Like what happens when the SSD dies on a Series X or PS5? Even if you have the knowledge and skills to take the system apart and replace it, you will run into the issue that current gen consoles are designed so that you can't just replace the SSD and reinstall the OS like older generation consoles. They tie keys to the SSD that are encrypted and change constantly, or use SSD SKUs that consumers can't buy. With games, when you have an issue, your only recourse is to wait for a patch. Some games never do get patches either. There's a Spiderman game on the PS3 that a relative of mine played and he eventually hit a game breaking bug that never got patched. Whereas the PC community usually has issues fixed before an official patch ever comes out. Years down the line, you want to play a game that has issues and there is high likelihood that there are mods that fix every one of them and even improves the game in other ways too. So the better analogy is the PC user is the car owner that likes having a car that is open and that allows them if they need to to replace things. They like that their car will likely still work 5-10 years from then on, and that none of the features are behind a paywall. They also really like that the openness of it allows them to do more than drive down certain roads. The console player doesn't truly own their car. Despite paying nearly the same for it, they still need to pay a subscription for basic features like air-conditioning, radio, or the ability to drive on anything other than a flat. Their car is limited to certain roads so they get really angry when they see the PC car owners, who can go pretty much anywhere they want. And when the Console car has an issue, the only solution available is to send it in and hope it is under warranty (or even serviced at all). 5-10 years from then, they have to replace the car entirely and upon doing so a lot of roads they could travel on are now inaccessible to them and even more features are behind a paywall. Some features like being able to roll down the windows are missing at launch or never show up.
i bought a console in the past couple of months, the only real reason why is because i dont understand how pcs work and i was on a small budget that was not enough to get a pc that would be worth it but enough to get a console that could run whatever i wanted to play with it
You just gotta love how they imply how "Consoles having more exclusives than PC" is a good thing, and better than PC because of it. As if consoles exclusives isn't straight bullshit at trying to lock a game behind a paywall for pure profit, and big corps can easily port them to PC if they wanted to. The reason of PC being supreme is easy to see. A gaming PC, when not playing games, is still a PC. I can do my office work on it - edit videos, do my documents / homework, use a variety of applications for different productivity / recreation process etc. A console not playing game is just a brick. I got a mid-tier Gaming Laptop 4 years ago. It has run every game I wanted to play on it fine, at 60 fps no less, and it costs less than 1k USD. I can still do my work documents, access cloud storage and browse the web when I'm not playing (truth is I work on this computer more than I play on it). Buying a console that will become obsolete in 2-3 years AND a PC for work is in absolutely no way superior to own a PC / Laptop at your desired spec.
I can say that my 970 i5 that I use on my TV PC in the living room still is able to put out decent performance on modern games, it may only be able to do decent performance on 1080p but I'm not a graphics wh0re
1. Consoles don't require any knowledge of hardware, you get a functioning gaming system out of the box. 2. Consoles are easier to share with friends and family. Playing with multiple people on a couch is easier with console. 3. Consoles are easier to maintain. 4. Consoles are more accessible because of their simple design of their interface. 5. Consoles are more mobile. Move a lot of want to take your console to a friend's house? No problem. There, I got 5 points in which consoles are better than PCs and there's probably more. I'm a PC gamer and it took me 2 minutes to come up with these. Consoles have a place in gaming, they'll always have advantages over PC and nobody is denying that. But these lists people write up are just nonsense. Console is better for a casual audience and PC for people who care even a little about bang for buck.
We're talking about consoles for which games it sells are created by PCs. Shouldn't that be enough to kill the consoles are better than PC debate? Have we seen a console create anything for a PC? Didn't think so
I exclusively play on a pretty high end pc these days. My rig runs a 4070 ti RTX (which is actually quite affordable for the 40 series now, rip me buying it for 150% of current price). Point being that not once in my time gaming since I got this monster of a machine have I experienced a single frame drop. I play high if not max 4k on most games and consistently pull 140+ fps. Whoever wrote this article should legitimately lose their job, they clearly have no clue what their talking about, and probably bottlenecked whatever 4080 they used to test (they 100% didnt test shit) with 8gb of ram and an i5 10600kf.
Honestly the closest thing I've come to stuff like "bad optimization" was Spider Man Remastered at night, and (as of AMD 23.10.2) Sonic Generations Other than that, everything has been....basically the same
Saying you need the best gpus for gaming is salt from console gamers who are very angry they can't get 60 fps on the $700-800 gaming device. A good mid range gaming computer can easily cost $200 less than a new gaming console. While being better in the long term with the benefits of gasp owning your games.
Wanted to say this as well steam deck with steam os 3 consolize the PC in setting a base performance & giving a console like UI from the get go while not keeping the user/customer in a walled garden like a actaul console. Steam OS 3 also comes with steam as a luancher but you can use another luancher & store if you want unlike console.
As someone who has a Steam Deck, i get both world's. Switch is a hybrid console? Don't make me laugh, Steam Deck is a Linux PC that you can change the OS, handheld and could be better home console than Switch cause of a dock (some other devices work too)
the only issue i have from my ps5 is i miss the haptics and i miss being able to listen to my music without tabbing out of my game, other than that pc wins in my book
6:45 I don't understand their argument. The PC player has the option of lowering settings and resolution to get a higher framerate if they want. But console players will always be stuck at 30 FPS.
People forget even when cyberpunk was cyberbug on pc I could still just lock my fps to 60 on pc and it’ll still run stable and better than on console at the time that game was in a terribly optimization port 😂. PC will always be better
Tbh since im a teen, my favorite game is Fortnite. It runs at 165fps with high settings WITH lumen AND nanite, and runs WAYYYYYYY better then a ps5 either limited to 60fps with decent graphics, or 120fps at graphics worse than a potato. PC is far superior in many ways. Running an RTX 4070ti Super.
If your pc is better than current console it will always be better as long as a new gen doesn't come out. The console doesn't magically get better or the pc worse. Even if you lower settings it will still be better looking than the console and have better performance.
"...but all those benifits on PC come with a associted premium price." Hmmmm me wonder what premuim price is associetd on console that is free on PC???
i primarily game on a handheld pc and have an old tv i output to when docked the handheld has 16gb ddr4 ram and a ryzen 5 4500u and comfortably game at 720p low setting at constant 30 to 60 fps on newer aaa games and crank the settings to ultra on games from my childhood like quake 3 and unreal tournament that i previously played on consoles back then
The only bug with hogwarts legacy on pc ive seen was one when i kept switching between controller and mouse and keyboard, the on screen courser would just be gone so i couldnt select anything lol. Loved the gameplay just thought the story was average.
So funny seeing these fanboy shill weirdos on suicide watch because they're effectively going extinct or endangered now that PC Gaming is bigger than consoles at this point. The only thing that's gonna kill PC Gaming at this point is NVIDIA or Microsoft.
I'm disappointed that you conceded to point number 2 when people are gaming on APUs and Steam Decks these days. Cost to entry could have been easily obliterated.
I will say I wish PC games came on discs thought I would pay a little extra to have that option.Also controller is better on Pc cause I can use gyro aim which feel much better than sticks.
I'd imagine so. Especially if Nixxes is in charge. They did great work with the port of Spidey Remastered (give or take the CPU issues) and I'd imagine they'll treat the second with the same level of care
yer nar i could never go back to console also they seem to forget PC mods fixed 99% of my problems on PC for starfeild haha yes pc are costly but they also do alot more then just gaming
I don't think whether I buy Ps5 or not will Rockstar release Gta 6 on launch on Pc,and I don't want same problem I had with my favourite game Rdr2,that I got spoiled ending because douchbags at Rockstar release it at console first,I won't repeat same mistake and that's only reason I will buy Ps5 even tho I prefer gaming on Pc in every way
I really wish people would stop acting like PC gaming is some sort of super complex, esoteric thing. Even if you don't wanna build a PC, you can still buy prebuilts. And installing games is by no means complicated either. It's as simple as downloading Steam, signing up for a free account, buying your game, downloading it, and then clicking "play." But you have articles like this making people think it's rocket science.
It's because they need to stave off the buyer's remorse of buying a console, so they bring up anything to make PC gaming seem terrible.
Not only can they buy prebuilts, they can also buy custom built PCs nowadays too. 😂
When all your PC friends are either Mac snobs with Wine or Linux elitists and sudo senseis, it makes sense they think it's complicated.
Fun fact - the XDA literally doesn't stand for anything. It's just a name they cribbed from something else. They put as much effort into the name as they do with their articles.
Pretty sure it was named after a Windows mobile PDA device that they first crashed the forums to discuss. The forums used to be great when I was into Android rooting/ROMing, but the new site is just like every other gaming/tech blogs.
@@tlingitsoldier Yea you're correct. Those were the good days and they showed superiority of android customization with rooted apps and flashing OSes such as LineageOS for an unbloated fast stock android, longer OS lifespan and privacy focused OS including a stock android camera which made your pictures better than the OEM from samsung etc
Actually, it stands for Xtremely Dumb Articles.
"rapid evolution of gaming consoles" killed me 🤣
"Rapid evolution," yet we still can't escape 30 fps.
@@Tr4yst3r That's the studio's fault. 30 fps games coming bach and bad PC ports / insane minimum and recommended specs have the same roots. The new engines and the games built with them are made to take PS5's and Xbox Series' Zen 2 CPUs as the lowest common denominator, not weak Jaguar CPUs. During 8th gen devs reduced the workload for CPUs as much as possible. New games put RT, more CPU-heavy graphical effects etc onto the CPUs. The games don't even look better, they just made differently. And devs decide that 30 fps was enough so they don't have to optimize more. The only 30 fps games who have a justification are TotK on Switch due to the weak hardware and Starfield on Xbox Series due to the CPU-heavy simulation of the game world.
>online gaming price hikes
>new game price hikes
>still no full backwards compatibility
>still 30 fps
>1 or 2 first party games a year to make up for it
watch out it's evolving too rapidly
Consoles: Barely change specs for several years, games usually stuck at 30 fps, lack of customization of settings
PC: New CPUs, GPUs, motherboards, RAM sticks and power supplies every 1-2 years, games usually able to reach 60 fps with entry-level hardware, proper ports have tons of graphics settings
PC has had some of the best exclusives across the board. They appeal to such a near infinite variety of gamers. This article is unhinged.
Not only that, they simply talk about Sony exclusives and not Nintendo. No point talking about Xbox since everything is there on hand.
Gamers playing games, regards playing platforms. Nothing changes. I have pc, I have a fucking shelf of consoles, I have a fucking steam deck and I respect any form of gaming if it fits player needs. (Mobile players not gamers btw). But when I see crap like this I just get pissed off. Special Olympics as it is.
@@bubsy3861be careful the mobile players are toxic 😂
Most of the "PC exclusives" are actually indie games that the developers simply doesn't have the resource to port to console.
They aren't purposely being locked behind a paywall to boost sales to a hardware-inferior machine.
And the programming in PC gives the devs a lot more flexibility in actually coding and designing their game.
That alone is already worth much more than a console.
@@lieutenanteclipse9975And then there are also a bunch of PC exclusive games that just wouldn't work on consoles without a massive rework of the control scheme
I'm a 1080p 60FPS gamer, but I DID opt to buy a 4080 just for the sake on not having to upgrade for years to come.
That longevity alone is well worth the cost, and will easily outlast a console generation while giving me far superior performance and fidelity.
Shit I still run my 1650 Ti on my mid-tier laptop, which I also do my business work on.
I don't have many games (especially modern unoptimised shit-on-launch games), and this laptop still runs 1080p 60 FPS more or less fine.
Imagine having to buy 2 consoles and another PC just to do what 1 mid-tier laptop can do.
I have good confidence that this laptop won't need to be upgraded until it dies. (I did an SSD swap that's about it)
If you ever decide that it's worth it, then I recommend you eventually get even a 1080p monitor with a 120+Hz refresh rate. I can't stress how good it feels to play games at higher frame rates. Especially when you have highly optimized games like DMCV, most competitive games, and so on.
As a oldskool (and currently) pc gamer and as a (very minor) console gamer i agree with the disk argument i have built quite a nice xbox one and xbox 360 game collection through very cheap used disks. On the other hand, steamsales are still the best thing gaming ever seen! The steam summer and winter sales are almost religious holidays for me xD
I feel this. I honestly wish PC gaming still had a physical media scene, I still have most of my game discs from the 6th through 8th console gens. I love collecting stuff like that, it's the one thing I miss about being on console. But that said, the digital PC game market is amazing so it's a worthy trade-off
Hogwarts Legacy did have some CPU utilization and Ray tracing problems at launch, but still 3060ti was running it 60fps@1440p ultra settings(no RT).
And the fact these people who make these comparisons ALWAYS ignore the fact that even if you're not buying a PC for gaming, you'll most likely than not be buying a PC for other uses, and spending more on it to also be able to game on it makes gaming PCs cheaper. Like you'll most likely spend at least 800 on a PC for daily use, and can get a decent gaming PC that you can use for YEARS will probably cost you around $2k, making the gaming PC cost only $1200, and you can upgrade parts whenever you feel like you need an upgrade and have the money saved. Add the cheaper video games, and being able to buy/emulate older gen games, etc. to this and it ends up being even cheaper than consoles.
And as a bonus, you always get to keep your games in case you ever want to revisit them in the future, and you don't have to physically keep your 5-10 old consoles for the rest of your life to be able to play your old games.
I can't imagine what it'd be like to keep all my consoles to be able to play the games I used to enjoy as a kid. Can't imagine needing to physically keep my old PS1, PS2, PSP, Gameboy Advance, Advance SP, Xbox 360, Switch, and PS4 just to play those old games. I even sold my Switch and just use my PC and Steam Deck in place of all those previous consoles I used to own, and I'm still able to play and enjoy all their games with just a PC and Steam Deck without the need of storing and looking after 7+ consoles and making sure none of them is broken for the rest of my life.
All these are just the tip of the iceberg of the advantages of having a PC over console, and even just these are enough to make me convince to pay premium and get a decent gaming PC. I won't even go into the details to explain how scummy Sony and Nintendo are. PC, in every aspect, is the more consumer friendly option.
Idk if you will even read this, but if you do and agree, I'd like it if you put this coment (or just touch on this subject) on your next PC gaming related video as a counter argument, because everybody I see ignore this very obvious advantage of having a PC.
Btw I'm not a PC fan who loses their mind with console wars and shit if this comes out like that. I just HATE the monopolistic and consumer exploitative nature of Sony and Nintendo.
Finally someone gets it. These console fanboys will tell you that they can do other things on an iPad... that costs 1 grand. A pc that does everything saves you so much money in the long run. I can understand wanting a plug and play experience but saying that consoles are better value is just disingenuous. Even a 1650 is better value than any current gen console. It's enough to run most games and also gets shit done.
I did not expect XDA to make rubbish like this ...
It's not the first time, Gaming on Linux called them out for their duckery ...
They have good stuff for rooting android and resetting iphones. I am disappointed at them as they are tech folk.
Looking through their website it does seem they know what they're talking about outside of the gaming realm. But their gaming articles are hot garbage lol
RE4make, Lies of P, Armored Core 6, Dead Space Remake, and Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart all came out on PC this year. They are all high profile games made by AAA studios and all of them had good to great PC ports, but that's easy to ignore I guess? lol
Capcom in general has been fucking killing it with their PC ports, the RE Engine is a thing of beauty. Every other triple-A company should be using them as an example
@@JoeFromSeattle For real. I was so hyped when I saw that Dragon's Dogma 2 is being made in RE Engine. Definitely my most anticipated upcoming release now that the big wave of 2023 games is over and done with.
Emails are scary for different reasons 😱
This "article" had to be written by a high school kid. Who was plagiarizing ChatGPT.
I know high school kids that can write better than that
its wild that people still try to say consoles are better. i bought my pc in 2016 and just replaced the gpu, motherboard, ram, and cpu because i could afford it. not because i had to. pcs will be more expensive the first time, then you can have the same pc for 10 years without NEEDING to replace anything except a hard drive. pcs have a 1000x more games, better performance, better graphics, and cheaper games.
99% of the games I've ever played on my potato pc just auto spec my shit and make the settings accordingly. I'll maybe change a toggle or two, and that's it. I'm as stupid about PC components as I'm about my console components. I just want play games, and personally find conversation about PC rigs just as cringe as car engine talks. And i like how my PC and and Xbox are intertwined because who gives a fuck about anything just let me play my shit. Sorry for the rant lmao
Hogwarts Legacy on PC was just not optimized well at launch. It wasn’t broken (at least from what I played at launch). People in the community made FPS boosters mods to help in the meantime until the developer fixed the issue. If I remember correctly, it had to do with the shaders.
That sounds more in line with what I was hearing at the time. I didn't play at launch but the worst I remember hearing was FPS issues, certainly not the best port but not at the same level as other really bad port examples
*7 THINGS A CONSOLE DOES BETTER THAN A PC*
1. It makes it easier to limit your access to games
2. Will distract the kids so you can get back to your PC.
3. Better at wasting space
4. Makes for a better weapon when fighting off a burglar.
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I'm a police officer that has responded to burglary cases before.
I'm surprised that not a SINGLE time any burglar has even attempted to steal a console.
This article did one thing helpful, it reminded me that email apps are a thing if I want notifications. I just go to the website if I want to check my email, only notifications I get on my PC are Xbox party invites.
Random journo console player: cant be asked to spend 10 seconds adjusting graphical settings
Me, a PC _enjoyer_ : *spends days installing mods for skyrim to create the pinnacle of personalized experience*
Mods are a godsend
console has graphical settings ... performance mode and fidelity mode... if that's a big issue for them to fiddle with (you know, giving players OPTIONS on how to play their game) I dont know what to say anymore... idiots like this is why game devs slowly take away (or nerf) settings for pc ports now... 🤦
Skyrim Mods is already the best proof that PC is always gonna be superior than any Console.
The ability to download and install ANYTHING, gaming or not, is already miles ahead of consoles.
Imagine getting Bethesda paid mods lol.
Consoles ARE NOT cheaper than PC. $60 / yr for online play for 6 years = $360 + $500 for the console = $860, which can get you a solid PC which you can upgrade anytime you want, WHEN you want.
I love going to their forums for all the great resources regarding Android modifications and rooting, which is very much in the spirit of modding on PC. Did not expect a stupid article like that from that site
Joe: if you have like a 1050 or something yeah you might wanna look into upgrading.
Me with my 1030LP:No, I don't think I will.
This article from XDA screams I hate PC but I'm not gonna say I hate PC 😂
Yet another informative video! Keep it up!
World of Warcraft is more popular than all the non-exclusives they mentioned, but the audience is niche. 😂😂😂😂😂
Did that idiot bring up Starfield as a "Gotcha"?
I easily, and EASILY get Starfield running 60+ FPS on my 3080ti at resolutions of 3440x1440p. And I'm using mostly high settings.
Yes, in Akila City and New Atlantis, it drops... to 55FPS. OH MY GOSH IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD...
But here’s the thing! Even if you buy the game physically, you STILL have to download the damn thing. All a disc is anymore is just a fuckin key. There’s no game data on it whatsoever. Physical copies are not gonna be around much longer and with file sizes growing at such a rapid pace, there’s no way it CAN be around much longer.
Most people who are this against PC, are insecure ppl whos whole identity is the console they prefer, and most of them are kids or po ppl who cant afford a decent PC
I bought a midrange settup at the start of the pandemic and it can still run newer games fairly well. Like i am playing starfield well enough.
Just out of curiosity, what are ur specs?
PC has more exclusives in all generation, even before the birth of consoles which consoles will never have access to, ever.
turning off notification is so hard i had to push just one button idk what this guy problem is be they make thing seem harder than they are
I love how the author of this article talked about PC players having to continuously lower their settings to keep playing on their old rig as if the console versions of recent AAA titles don't run at what would be medium settings on PC at best. Not to mention often being locked at lower frame rates.
#1 thing a console does better is suck more money out of you in the long run even if you build a mid four figure PC.
thank you joe i have lost more braincells off the title alone
I searched up if consoles have more exclusives then pcs, and it literally said “PCs have more exclusives than any console company”
"the xbox sex"
5:32
Been a pc gamer for 40+ years and a console gamer for almost 50 years!!! Yes, pong does count. Game how ya wanna game, but PC is still superior for exclusives, graphics, and frame rates!!! Also I
can sell off old parts to lower the costs of my upgrades!!! Keep up the great vids 👍 !!!
Lets name it, XDA means Ex developer Association. sounds cool to me.
eXremely Dumb Articles
"im gonna throw up in ur mailbox" dshjfwehgfh
A console takes up less landfill than a PC ;-)
And it's portable
Not really though, basically i use my pc for work as well since i work remotely at home, snd i game on it as well. If you have a pc for work and a console for gaming, you basically have more junk that will end up in a landfill, plus some of these companies go out of their way to make your existing accessories proprietary which forces you to buy a redundant accessories just to use it on a specific console.most gaming consoles lack backward compatibility making your previously own games useless in the next generation forcing you to rebuy it while games on pc carry over to the next gen ( my games on steam is still playable since 2005).
I literally bought a Steam deck as a "first pc" so I could avoid the whole hassle of building a pc. The only serious drawback that came with was a couple of online games not working during the first 3 weeks or so.
Fast forward to 2 years after it's launch and the only games that still don't support that i know of are Destiny2, Paladins and Uno...the last of which is odd because Ubisoft already got For Honor working on Steam...lol
Console dudes like to call pc dudes snobs or elitists, but really it's console dudes that care more about graphics and resolution. PC gamers care more about framerates and options. This article proves the console snobbery. Also most don't buy a console for the exclusives, they buy them to play with friends and or the big third party games.
Mid range builds are alive and well lol got a cheap rx6700xt and r5 5600x for my build earlier this year
To me the biggest difference between console and PC gaming is the same as "Car guys" and guys that enjoy a winding road on a nice autumn day. Car Guys really like the technical side of things, they like knowing the ins and outs and being able to do work themselves, in that way PC gamers enjoy the customizability and personal connection to their rigs. Console players are more like the guy that just likes having his convertible for an afternoon cruise. He doesn't care that its engine is not powerful, he doesn't care its not the most responsive vehicle, he doesn't want to do more maintenance wise than schedule tune ups and oil changes, in that way a console player just wants a simple box they can drop under their TV, and so long as they buy games with the symbol corresponding to the one kn their box, it just works. They dont want to keep up with or even know what sort of parts are in their box. They dont want to know, or understand minimum specs or how to get the most out of their box. They just want that autmn drive.
Neither is an incorrect way to enjoy car ownership. Neither is an incorrect way to enjoy gaming. Anyone who tells you otherwise has either something to gain personally from doing so, or something they need to work through personally.
The problem with that analogy is that Console gamers absolutely do care about how powerful they are, to the point that a lot of attention in console wars are placed on the most miniscule differences in visual fidelity. Console gamers very often fight over which console is better purely on which is more powerful, despite most of the time the two main consoles being neck and neck with each other.
And of course this also bleeds into how they view PC. Many of them believe that even if their console ISN'T the most powerful, they so often assume that you need to spend thousands of dollars and constantly upgrade in order to beat the perfornance. And of course you can tell most of them absolutely care, even if they say they don't by how they react when PC gets a port of one of the games that was previously exclusive.
If they legitimately did not care, they wouldn't be making bomb threats, and getting so angry. They get mad because they DO care about the perrformance, and many of them buy consoles not because they are satisfied with the performance of the console, but because they believed they needed to buy it in order to play the game. So when they see a game they bought the console for getting ported, they feel as if their purchase has been devalued.
Another issue is that this assumes that tinkering is inherent to PC gaming. PC gaming doesn't really require anything more than a console. What PC has over console is that you CAN tinker, but you don't have to. If you have a problem, most of the time it will be something you can easily solve yourself. Whether it is software or hardware, the solution is usually quite simple. PC cases also tend to make replacing and upgrades easy. Like if I want to replace the GPU, I take off the side panel and replace it. I don't have to take everything apart to get to it. You can also just send it in if it is outside of your tech skillset. If a game doesn't work right away, there's a 99% chance that somebody has figured out the solution in the forums. Like maybe you just turn on a setting or drag and drop a file into the folder, even things the least tech literate person can do and it takes all of 30 seconds to fix.
If a console has a problem, you don't have the luxury of fixing it yourself a lot of the time. Sometimes you can fix it, like I had to replace a fan on a second hand Switch. It took me about 30 minutes, but required I take the system apart and when putting it back together I had to replace the thermal paste. A lot of the time though, users can't fix the problem easily. Like what happens when the SSD dies on a Series X or PS5? Even if you have the knowledge and skills to take the system apart and replace it, you will run into the issue that current gen consoles are designed so that you can't just replace the SSD and reinstall the OS like older generation consoles. They tie keys to the SSD that are encrypted and change constantly, or use SSD SKUs that consumers can't buy.
With games, when you have an issue, your only recourse is to wait for a patch. Some games never do get patches either. There's a Spiderman game on the PS3 that a relative of mine played and he eventually hit a game breaking bug that never got patched. Whereas the PC community usually has issues fixed before an official patch ever comes out. Years down the line, you want to play a game that has issues and there is high likelihood that there are mods that fix every one of them and even improves the game in other ways too.
So the better analogy is the PC user is the car owner that likes having a car that is open and that allows them if they need to to replace things. They like that their car will likely still work 5-10 years from then on, and that none of the features are behind a paywall. They also really like that the openness of it allows them to do more than drive down certain roads. The console player doesn't truly own their car. Despite paying nearly the same for it, they still need to pay a subscription for basic features like air-conditioning, radio, or the ability to drive on anything other than a flat. Their car is limited to certain roads so they get really angry when they see the PC car owners, who can go pretty much anywhere they want. And when the Console car has an issue, the only solution available is to send it in and hope it is under warranty (or even serviced at all). 5-10 years from then, they have to replace the car entirely and upon doing so a lot of roads they could travel on are now inaccessible to them and even more features are behind a paywall. Some features like being able to roll down the windows are missing at launch or never show up.
@@AlbedoAtoned Elegantly put, my friend
i bought a console in the past couple of months, the only real reason why is because i dont understand how pcs work and i was on a small budget that was not enough to get a pc that would be worth it but enough to get a console that could run whatever i wanted to play with it
You just gotta love how they imply how "Consoles having more exclusives than PC" is a good thing, and better than PC because of it.
As if consoles exclusives isn't straight bullshit at trying to lock a game behind a paywall for pure profit, and big corps can easily port them to PC if they wanted to.
The reason of PC being supreme is easy to see. A gaming PC, when not playing games, is still a PC. I can do my office work on it - edit videos, do my documents / homework, use a variety of applications for different productivity / recreation process etc. A console not playing game is just a brick.
I got a mid-tier Gaming Laptop 4 years ago. It has run every game I wanted to play on it fine, at 60 fps no less, and it costs less than 1k USD. I can still do my work documents, access cloud storage and browse the web when I'm not playing (truth is I work on this computer more than I play on it).
Buying a console that will become obsolete in 2-3 years AND a PC for work is in absolutely no way superior to own a PC / Laptop at your desired spec.
"muh sclusives" is the worst fanboy argument. exclusivity is an anti-consumer crutch.
His article has convinced me - to buy a gaming PC.😂
I can say that my 970 i5 that I use on my TV PC in the living room still is able to put out decent performance on modern games, it may only be able to do decent performance on 1080p but I'm not a graphics wh0re
1. Consoles don't require any knowledge of hardware, you get a functioning gaming system out of the box.
2. Consoles are easier to share with friends and family. Playing with multiple people on a couch is easier with console.
3. Consoles are easier to maintain.
4. Consoles are more accessible because of their simple design of their interface.
5. Consoles are more mobile. Move a lot of want to take your console to a friend's house? No problem.
There, I got 5 points in which consoles are better than PCs and there's probably more. I'm a PC gamer and it took me 2 minutes to come up with these. Consoles have a place in gaming, they'll always have advantages over PC and nobody is denying that.
But these lists people write up are just nonsense. Console is better for a casual audience and PC for people who care even a little about bang for buck.
I’m glad your reading articles again
We're talking about consoles for which games it sells are created by PCs. Shouldn't that be enough to kill the consoles are better than PC debate? Have we seen a console create anything for a PC? Didn't think so
Glad I'm a console gamer. I don't like figuring out settings and resolution. I just want it to work out the box
I exclusively play on a pretty high end pc these days. My rig runs a 4070 ti RTX (which is actually quite affordable for the 40 series now, rip me buying it for 150% of current price). Point being that not once in my time gaming since I got this monster of a machine have I experienced a single frame drop. I play high if not max 4k on most games and consistently pull 140+ fps. Whoever wrote this article should legitimately lose their job, they clearly have no clue what their talking about, and probably bottlenecked whatever 4080 they used to test (they 100% didnt test shit) with 8gb of ram and an i5 10600kf.
why do they keep saying plug and play you need to download games on the ps 5 though it is faster than the ps 4
People have been voting with their wallets.... For shit like buggy games and dlc
I love my PlayStation but the irony so mentioning the hardware upgrade costs for PC when looking at what Sony is away to do with the PS5 revision
Honestly the closest thing I've come to stuff like "bad optimization" was Spider Man Remastered at night, and (as of AMD 23.10.2) Sonic Generations
Other than that, everything has been....basically the same
Why do these articles/videos keep being made??? It's always the same shitty "arguments" that fall apart at the slightest scrutiny...
loving the longer form content
They’re “high end pc” is a Alienware laptop.
Saying you need the best gpus for gaming is salt from console gamers who are very angry they can't get 60 fps on the $700-800 gaming device. A good mid range gaming computer can easily cost $200 less than a new gaming console. While being better in the long term with the benefits of gasp owning your games.
One word steam deck
Wanted to say this as well steam deck with steam os 3 consolize the PC in setting a base performance & giving a console like UI from the get go while not keeping the user/customer in a walled garden like a actaul console. Steam OS 3 also comes with steam as a luancher but you can use another luancher & store if you want unlike console.
You’re a true legend for the title of this video.
As someone who has a Steam Deck, i get both world's. Switch is a hybrid console? Don't make me laugh, Steam Deck is a Linux PC that you can change the OS, handheld and could be better home console than Switch cause of a dock (some other devices work too)
the only issue i have from my ps5 is i miss the haptics and i miss being able to listen to my music without tabbing out of my game, other than that pc wins in my book
6:45 I don't understand their argument. The PC player has the option of lowering settings and resolution to get a higher framerate if they want. But console players will always be stuck at 30 FPS.
more cost to entry? aside from extreme budget builds yes this is true
People forget even when cyberpunk was cyberbug on pc I could still just lock my fps to 60 on pc and it’ll still run stable and better than on console at the time that game was in a terribly optimization port 😂. PC will always be better
I like the Darktide gameplay, as someone who’s played since the rocky launch please show more. Also the video was great so bonus 👍
Got into Darktide like a week ago, fucking great game
Tbh since im a teen, my favorite game is Fortnite. It runs at 165fps with high settings WITH lumen AND nanite, and runs WAYYYYYYY better then a ps5 either limited to 60fps with decent graphics, or 120fps at graphics worse than a potato. PC is far superior in many ways. Running an RTX 4070ti Super.
If your pc is better than current console it will always be better as long as a new gen doesn't come out. The console doesn't magically get better or the pc worse. Even if you lower settings it will still be better looking than the console and have better performance.
The amount of stupid people I'm seeing say like just go to because of a few bad pc ports it just makes my brain hurt.
"...but all those benifits on PC come with a associted premium price."
Hmmmm me wonder what premuim price is associetd on console that is free on PC???
Doofensmirtz....... " HEY, WHOSE USING MY NAME FOR A WEBSITE " - Heinz
The argument console players throw at PC players: "bUt Is yOuR Pc BeTter ThAn a Ps5 Or xBoX sErIes X?"
Yes.
The fact that I can do work stuff during loading screens on the same machine is a perk that I never imagined I'd flex, but I love so much.
They NEVER make a pro Version of consoles!!! LOL Keep up the great vids!!!
i primarily game on a handheld pc and have an old tv i output to when docked the handheld has 16gb ddr4 ram and a ryzen 5 4500u and comfortably game at 720p low setting at constant 30 to 60 fps on newer aaa games and crank the settings to ultra on games from my childhood like quake 3 and unreal tournament that i previously played on consoles back then
Did you see that PC Gamer article ranking Starfield beneath 76 (and ESO, for some reason)?
Also on PC every game can technically be free
the only reason starfield was so bad was lazyness and lack of dlss for nvidia users, xbox had same issues
xylophone, Douchenburg, academy hahaha
im mostly a pc gamer now adays but still once and a while play on one of my many consoles
Xenomorph diarrhoea affliction
Anyone know what the game being played in the background is? Reminds me of L4D/B4B but in a Doom-ier setting.
Xtreme Debug Anxiety 😐
Let's be real, all of these games are developed in the PC, have we ever heard a game developed by the console itself?
last of us part 1 was broken, while the other two, starfield, and hogwarts legacy needed a good PC.
bruh i ran starfield at 80fps max settings at launch with my 4080
The only bug with hogwarts legacy on pc ive seen was one when i kept switching between controller and mouse and keyboard, the on screen courser would just be gone so i couldnt select anything lol. Loved the gameplay just thought the story was average.
So funny seeing these fanboy shill weirdos on suicide watch because they're effectively going extinct or endangered now that PC Gaming is bigger than consoles at this point.
The only thing that's gonna kill PC Gaming at this point is NVIDIA or Microsoft.
I'm disappointed that you conceded to point number 2 when people are gaming on APUs and Steam Decks these days. Cost to entry could have been easily obliterated.
Please don't ground me dad :(
I will say I wish PC games came on discs thought I would pay a little extra to have that option.Also controller is better on Pc cause I can use gyro aim which feel much better than sticks.
Bro, my pc is like $2400 on max settings. I play starfield at like 150 FPS, and that's with Raytracing and 3D texture mods.
What? Starfield doesn't have raytracing. Even if some mod enables some kind of screen space raytracing, this is not real raytracing.
yea the ps 5 is simple to set up didn't take me a half hour including game downloads
Hey joe, do you think marvel spider man 2 pc port will fix any glitches and bugs on console?
I'd imagine so. Especially if Nixxes is in charge. They did great work with the port of Spidey Remastered (give or take the CPU issues) and I'd imagine they'll treat the second with the same level of care
yer nar i could never go back to console also they seem to forget PC mods fixed 99% of my problems on PC for starfeild haha yes pc are costly but they also do alot more then just gaming
i have a good job i can afford stupid expensive pc parts so what am i supposed to play on a console so console gamers feel better?
Steam should make a game consoles
Game journalist is living in denial, consoles are being phased out to PC platform.
I don't think whether I buy Ps5 or not will Rockstar release Gta 6 on launch on Pc,and I don't want same problem I had with my favourite game Rdr2,that I got spoiled ending because douchbags at Rockstar release it at console first,I won't repeat same mistake and that's only reason I will buy Ps5 even tho I prefer gaming on Pc in every way
nah hogwarts legacy was dog shit at launch, the stuttering was insane