This is probably the best promo video for a course. And probably this is the best course on editing. The price is good, you get more than you pay. Unfortunately, I can't afford it right now. I'll be in the next wave, for sure.
Invest in knowledge. I had the same mindset as you but after months of considering, I finally bought a course (not on skillshare, but it was $800) Since then I've made back way more using what I learned.
skillshare teachers arent to the skill of Sven, I could be a skillshare teacher if i wanted theres not much to it . Think about the feature films and who he's worked with. Think about the knowledge he has about the industry.
I have just completed as much of this course that is available (the last few segments of the course are not released yet), and here are my thoughts: First, the way it is now, it IS for absolute beginners. I am by no means an advanced film editor, but found everything so far to be at a very basic level (ie., explaining J and L cuts, teaching basic DaVinci Resolve -- which I don't use). I won't say that I've learned absolutely nothing, but my takeaways have been very few. My main critique of the course is that as you watch edits being made (the "Case Study") -- which are the most valuable parts of this course -- there isn't often an explanation of why (for example: I am moving this here...because it will do this) or how it will change the story or the scene. I can see it in his eyes when he's cutting, but the explanation is left out. One of the films being edited is in German, and even though I actually speak some German, I found it kind of excruciating to watch a scene being edited without knowing exactly what was being said by the actors (occasionally the gist of the dialogue is given) and therefore be able to judge performances. Understanding what an editor does technically is valuable, but it only makes you a competent editor. It's how you shape the story (and why) that would make you a go-to one. The career advice -- branding, interviewing, setting your rate -- is valuable but, again, for beginners. If you've interviewed and been hired for a job before, there isn't much to see here. Finally, the cost: $380. This course is severely overpriced, based on the value of other online courses that are out there. My mind went to Masterclass.com where, for $180/year, you have full access to dozens of complete master classes (each longer than this one) by Martin Scorsese, Jodie Foster, Werner Herzog, etc. This is more than double that price, and four times more than buying just one of those courses. Lynda.com ($30/mo) also has a ton of courses available for so much less. The money-back guarantee requires that you watch all the videos AND do all the exercises AND wait 8 weeks before you can request a refund; I think you should be able to leave the course if it's clear very quickly that it's not for you. This policy isn't disclosed up front, which feels deceptive. Overall: if you are a beginning editor, you could learn a lot from this, and $380 is a lot less expensive than film school (or even one course there). Sven is clearly a talented and skilled editor. If you have any experience editing at all, though, I don't think this is for you. I would describe it as being able to take you from crawling to walking, but not walking to running. This has been my experience. I didn't learn anything substantial from this course, but you may.
Hey Brent, thank you for your honest review. I would like to invite you to write another one, once the second half of the course if opened up in about a month. This is where the next 3 modules of a total of 6 become available. And this is where the bulk of the advanced editing takes place. I think you make a good point about the case study with the German film. I wish the dialog was in English, but I added it to the course, because I felt strongly that this particular editing session best demonstrated how much power editing can have over a scene, when you need to completely reshuffle it. You did give me the idea that we need to subtitle this entire lesson in order to understand every actor's line at all times. I do give a summary of the dialog at the beginning and at times, I explain what is being said, but I understand how that is not enough. In terms of the warranty, I would like to stress that whenever we talk about it, we spell out the terms. At the very first page when you land on the course, at the top, there a main button where the 6 Month Money Back Guarantee is explained. There are two reasons for this type of warranty, it motivates you stay on track and (because this is an information product as opposed to a physical one) it keeps free loaders at bay. I understand that this is not as good as "no questions asked money back guarantee", but we give you ample of time to make use of it. Finally, I'd like to ask for your patience, this is a Gen1 release which is often also called an MVP (Minimum Viable Product). I intent to take everybody's feedback into consideration as I refine the lessons in the coming months. E.g. some students have thoughts on the use of the music, which I will take a close look at. You do have lifetime access to the lessons, any ad ons and upgrades. Tesla didn't get it right from the start, but they had the vision to disrupt the industry. Because of Tesla, VW has now committed to going 100% electric with their entire fleet of cars, which will have a tremendous impact on the air quality of the inner cities in the future. Sorry I'm getting on a tangent here, I understand we are not Tesla. But the extremely expensive Tesla Gen 1 Roadster had its problems, the expensive Model S is still pretty rough in built quality, but the Model 3 is a nearly perfect car and almost affordable. It is my intent to make the Go-To Editor the Model 3 of editing courses. Ok I'll stop with the analogy. We need a little time to get there. I'd love to invite you to a Skype call where we can go through your experience in detail and identify the key elements that need improvement.
Here's my take on being a go-to editor. Branding is great as a start, but as you mention, it's all relationships. My clients come to me first because I solve problems and I think I walk a fine line between staying in my lane and proving myself valuable above and beyond my role as editor. I want them to think, "If we don't get Steve Hullfish for this, the project definitely won't be as good and might even fail." It takes some social skills to determine when you're crossing out of your lane and when you can add something beyond pressing keys. I probably crossed it at least once. But in other cases, I know I've landed tons of work and can name my price with multiple producing teams. This is all really smart content, Sven. Might be an interesting thing to touch on: staying in your lane vs. contributing above and beyond.
I agree, I'd like to see some input on that last point. As editors it's easy to get romantic about our own work and feel protective about it's current iteration. I am learning to drop the ego and realise it's NOT your project but then knowing how much to contribute before stepping over that line you speak of.
@@GKVideography Dropping ego is a key aspect of thinking freely (creative contribution), and winning more work (being someone people want to work with again), and truly in creating a better project because the focus is on the story, not your job or protecting your job (I know I'm preaching to the choir). I just talked about this exact thing with Jeff Ford, who edited the latest Avengers movie. This was a big topic in our upcoming interview for Art of Cut.
@@shullfish Hey steve I have bought you book Art Of The Cut so is this something extra, a doc? Not completed the book yet but an amazing read! Appreciate the input and insight!
@@GKVideography Not sure what the question is. I edit features and documentaries. I wasn't referring to anything specifically in my post. I'm not talking about training. Just commenting on Sven's course and my own take on what's important about the topic he chose to discuss.
@@shullfish I believe he was asking what you meant when you said: " This was a big topic in our upcoming interview for Art of Cut.." since the book has already been published. I believe he was (and now I am) wondering if this was a filmed interview, material for a new printing of the book, etc?
Even with the payment plan, I simply cannot afford it. This is something that I've been waiting for, because you've taught me so much already! The truth is I need more work to buy the course, even though the course would help me get more work. Life's funny that way I guess.
Thanks, Thisguyedits! Just a beautiful day that I noticed this video on UA-cam. I have already bought the course and I'm on module 2 already. From Russia (Moscow) with love!
I never have and never will edit footage in my life. But I specifically look for film editor because I want to learn your mentality when it comes to story-telling.
I love to edit! However, I use a software that no really uses and I felt relieved when you said that you took a job where you had to use a software that you weren't familiar with. This gives me hope, definitely going to check out this course!
1. Forge the relationship with the director/producer and make them feel comfortable; 2. Work on stuff that people are fans of previous films, stuff that is exciting, intriguing and promising; 3. Promise a good experience to people you are working with, stuff like showing up on time and being excited about their own work, be a positive force; 4. Brand yourself as an editor; 5. Be able to tell the story through the edit
This looks amazing! Editing is definitely the career I want to launch myself onto, and I feel like this would be a perfect fit. I only have a few days left to think about it, but... let's see what happens!
@@Ethaneman3135Rothschild how I can personally apply all of Sven's knowledge into real footage from a movie with good production (actors, shots, sound, story, etc)
I have been searching for a new way in my life for a long time now. I rediscovered my love for film which seems odd because it was never really gone. I did my first edit of a short essay a week ago, what i wanted to do for so long. I never had so much fun working on something in a very very long time. I have been following you for a longer time now. And you announce your course that i was looking forward to so much on my birthday. Well.... i am in i guess. (Is there a limited number of people allowed for now until the countdown runs out? Because i still need some time to clear the money for it) Thanks! Bernd
Well... There goes the Coach bag I wanted... Watching the first lesson now. I have been waiting for this course since it was first hinted at. I am excited to finally see it realized. Thanks Sven!!!
Uber, work at restaurant, film videos for local business or your family, etc. This is nothing compare to what you’re going to spend in the future. You’re going to be used to spending thousands or dollars. If you really want to you’ll manage to find it. You lose money to make money= Invest Plus it’s cheaper than film school.
Average salaries for editors are a fraction of what they used to be, and the downward trend hasn't improved. Back in the 80's a UK video editor could be making £50k-100+k p.a. In the 80s! Chances of being in a high payed select group are mathematically near zero given the market supply, but there is plenty of work. Long hours, fixed deals, low hourly rates. It's not the profession it once was. But then that's no different for most of the post production industry. And given the high cost of living in a thriving capital like London... make sure you're amazing and couldn't see yourself doing anything else in life. Just don't do it because you think you might earn a fortune. The death of a profession at root is like the death of most professions, especially in the creative sector... college courses, universities. Churning out to oversaturate a market place, as opposed to the old way. Interns and working your way up. However, there are other avenues opening up to be had if you have the skills of an editor, and who knows what opportunities will come from that.
Hey Sven, I'm thinking i''m in your intermediate category (and mature age) but I really enjoy your approach. I've been cutting weddings for 6 years (but just closed that chapter to move into more animation type stuff) but am editing everyday in my corporate gig. So in essense, I like what I'm seeing in your course around asset management and story development (as that is the real 'editing' magic). While I'm not seeking a job as an editor I think this skillset is so undetected by the client but an absolute MUST to make brilliant stuff - if I'm not seeking a job and definitely not young do you think this course is still for me.
Wow, what an outstanding idea. I wish I were young again and looking for a career. This is exactly the kind of class I would want to take. I just wish others did classes like this for other jobs so my kids could take them. :^)
Great price point for the course and people need to see it's an investment, as unless you do not do anything with the information you will not see a return.
Kinda wish i didnt already have a carrier, i would so take this. :) Price is soo affordable. The content looks great. And as one if the firsts you are sure to have some great connection out of this. Thats the real value. Ppl who say they need this but dont have the money... come on, this would be great with an extra 1 before the price.
@@deleytonah maybe I was too vague (didtn want to write a novel). I meant it as "I really wish opportunities like this were around when I was just starting "life" - you need this? then go get it!" I wrote the comment to emphasise how good this offer was, and anybody who needs it but thinks its too expensive should reconsider. Getting real dailies, editing real pro actor's footage, great connections from the community and the creators... It is truly a no-brainer. Also, kudos to you, for changing work/life when it was time!! sidenote, to reply to you point: I love my current business, taking this would have been for a hobby. (I didn't and that's a good thing, this is not a hobby, do it fully immersed or don't - "Focus on one thing, focus well.") Typing this from Bali, things are good :) (and cheers for the encouragement - my bad my previous points weren't more exact)
I signed up for the course on the first day and I can tell you that it's very good. Access to real Hollywood footage, instructional/Inspirational videos, and discussion boards to share you work and solicit feedback from other creators. If you're starting off as an editor, or even have some experience and looking to improve your overall creative workflow, I highly recommend it. Plus, there is a money guarantee if you're not satisfied. I wasn't asked to post this comment but the quality is just so good that I wanted to share my experience so far. Cheers!
@@sharonjoseph410 no, no idea. i just remembered the name from taking television broadcast classes in university back in the 1980's. I would bet there are numerous ones out there though. Assuming that is what you were talking about.
First, I appreciate the amount of time and knowledge that you give through your channel. Second , 8 noticed the poster in the background for “Better Luck Tomorrow”. I throughly enjoyed that film and their story behind making it. I would love to get your take on their editing breakdown as you have done for other films.
I FULLY intend to enroll into the course and learn from you😀. Unfortunately it says it's currently closed. However I definitely want to get in. Any info you can share about this?
I am literally on fire to learn everything about filmmaking, it's just my income isn't ok right now cause i'm investing on some gears. I'll promise myself to invest on knowledge like this when I got some money. UGH!
Because my company is so small so beside working as an editor, I have to be an photographer, 2d motion desinger, animator. And my monthly salary is about 600$, half of your daily salary. Should i quit my job ? T.T
Commented during first minutes. Nearly broke my leg running to computer after hearing about course. So, happy to be a student; but, darn.. My knee hurts. Haha
I have been trying to find an answer about Resolve: They have all of the editing capabilities they have been incorporating and there are lots of tutorials. However, all of the tutorials about editing are "from colorists" which makes me wonder: do any real professional expert editors use resolve for editing? I'd love to see a tutorial series about editing in resolve from an expert editor, not a color grading professional. Hollywood and most professionals still use Avid right?
Jackalope B Not sure what you can actually learn because all softwares run the same. I started off on FCP 7 then when I went to film school, I was forced to use Avid MC, then after two years, I was so use to it. I had to switch to premiere right away and to tell you the truth, books helped me get by. I would recommend carry some books, like it is a cellphone, carry it next to you cause it helps. I started to cut on Resolve a year after premiere, which was hard cause I only used to grade it, but I only used my main tools like knowing the blade, how to scrub and those things. If you can learn the basics of cutting then, a software is the tool. What I normally do is, carry a USB with my keyboard layouts, so if I need to to switch from Avid MC to Premiere, I already have my set comfortable keys and it is mapped.
I've always been a go-to editor, but I'm afraid to take the leap and make it my full-time job because everyone asks for motion graphics and I just want to tell stories :(
By the way I Love the concept of this course, I think it is unique and while there is a lot of free editing related stuff on UA-cam, your content stands out, and I think 379 Dollars are absolutely reasonable for anyone who SERIOUSLY wants to be a working editor. I mean even if you dont have the money you could borrow it from friends or parents who understand that this is your passion and you csn pay them back at your own pace.
Hello, I have 2 quick questions. First, is this course a good fit for an absolute beginner? Second, would the experience from this course be enough for a newbie to get a job? Thanks in advance... love the channel and content. Have a great day.
what I don't understand in editing, is that I feel like you are only as good as the footage... you say "tell the story" but if you don't have the shots to tell a story, you can only do the best of what you can with what you got. I feel there is creative room, but mostly technical. Editors don't shoot the footage...
Chris Dryer I've learned that there's actually many situations like this. Other than grading the footage, it's really how well you stitch them together to tell a story even when the footage isn't all that great. But it's your job as the editor to try your best in making the footage fit into the project best possible. Its not easy, but it is what an editor does. There are many situations like what you mentioned, but an editor (not all) can save the day🤙
Man, you're just awesome! I've been watching your videos for like 2 years, since i got in a film school here in Brazil and i can totally say that i love your work. Your conception and care about all the little things envolved in the editing process makes me want to go editor (haha) more and more. I was always scary and shy to comment bellow in your videos but wow! It's an editing course with you now that's being talking here on your channel, and i love it. Just love it. The price is a little bit steep, but it seems right according to the content. I may have to save money to run for it. However, congratulations on another conquest in your career.
I wonder how you compare to Inside the Edit? I am really thinking about enhancing my video editing skills. It's been a while since I've been out of school and it doesn't seem like anyone wants to hire me. It's been tough especially when you have a family to take care of. I've been doing everything to get my name out there. I'll keep pushing nonetheless.
This certainly sounds like a course that I am interested in. I work as a editor in a corporate office, and one of the toughest things for me, is being able to make new reels and pieces for my portfolio due to lack of time gathering good footage (a full-time job, where I can't use anything I work on in my reels). I notice that the course allows us to use some really good quality content, but I see that one of the rules is we are not allowed to use any of it in our reels. I can understand any legal reasons as to why this is the case, but is there any chance we would be provided with content that we may be able to use freely in our portfolios? Thanks again for the hard work you, and your team have put in to this course.
this course is meant to build you up as a storyteller, by giving you the concepts and let them sink in through experiencing the process yourself. The footage is high-end and gives you a real on-the-job training. But it's not giving you a reel. If that's the most important part I would recommend to check out edit-stock. While their footage is not as high-end it does allow you to use on your reel (I believe).
FCPX works great. I use all different editing software in the lessons and it really doesn't matter which one you use as you work independently beside me to cut your version of the scenes.
Hi Sven, I saw this video for the first time a couple hours after it was uploaded. I've been thinking really hard about buying the course. I have once concern though, and I hope you'll be able to answer before the time limit runs out tomorrow. If not, no worries. I asked last second, so I understand if you can't respond on a Friday night/Saturday morning. I want to buy the course, but my computer struggles with editing high resolution videos. Even with proxies, I freeze up all the time. In my budget, I am going to buy a beast of a computer towards the end of August 2019. I want to take the course, but I don't think I'll be able to take it until I get a new computer late August/early September. Is that too late for me to start the course? If it is, I can wait for the next wave. If not, I'd love to sign up now. Thanks Sven! I appreciate your work and dedication to editing! Sean Carruthers
Yes, you can follow along at your own pace. I recommend you watch a few videos at the beginning to be sure you like the method of teaching, then you are free to put the course aside for as long as you want. So August/September is fine. If you use DaVinci to do the exercises it would advantages to have a powerful computer.
wld be great if in the future, the modules and dailies etc can be purchased standalone without the review process (as important as it is) since timing is tricky
@@erfannuriyev294 It is open again until Monday night due to the fact that we had a write up in a big film blog the day AFTER our course closed, which is partially why we had over 1000 sign-ups to our waitlist. Because of that I opened the course for a couple of days to give everyone a chance that didn't know about this course while it was open.
The course looks great but, do you address how to market yourself as an editor outside of the Hollywood or New York areas? Or am I going to have to convince my wife to move again?
There is an Film editing course being taught 6 hours a day for 25 days by 3 film editors on real film footage. The price is 30 k Indian Rupees. Can anyone suggest shall I take that course or This guy edit course. I apologize in advance. It's my real and genuine doubt. What is the difference in learning film editing form any Institute which lasts for years and online course which completes in couple of hours
Can anyone answer me please?I am very interested in this course, but I want to know whether the materiasl used in the exercise is a complete film？The most attractive part of this course is the opportunity to edit a film （not a short or some parts of scenes）
Seems like clickbait to me. I already know all of this stuff - went to college for it and have a degree, yet no one wants to hire me. If they do decide, then it's for a contract worker that pays minimum wage. Ridiculous. All the things I see today done by "professionals" who can't even match cut, and have continuity errors. I'll make my breakthrough eventually!
Nice video! Bit of personal random trivia: I also used that cello track (pretty sure it's from Epidemic sound) and also that close up stock shot of the fingers on the keyboard from Shutterstock in a corp short form edit a few months back!
so this is a commerical? took me nearly 3 minutes to figure that out.
thought the same thing :(
That means its a really effing good commercial.
And the course is still open.
Clickbai
Yeah. Talk about brilliant lol
“And this is my masterclass”
Seriously love this channel but wish this wasn't an ad in disguise. Maybe titling it about the course would have been better.
I think this ad had a really nice disguise though
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge I've learned a lot from you and continue to do so.
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Thanks to you also you inspired me alot, i'm big fan of you. Love you Moroo From Karachi !
Taimoor bahi you follow him as well... nice
Moroo :)
Mooro ♥️
This is probably the best promo video for a course. And probably this is the best course on editing. The price is good, you get more than you pay. Unfortunately, I can't afford it right now. I'll be in the next wave, for sure.
Would love to see you on skillshare! Unfortunately $380 is not worth it for me. Putting that towards a new lens or rent is just more of a priority
Jake Williams thanks for saying how much it costs. His landing page doesn’t say and you can’t find out before making an account.
you can actually see the price tag on the course box in the 'view the course' page
Invest in knowledge. I had the same mindset as you but after months of considering, I finally bought a course (not on skillshare, but it was $800) Since then I've made back way more using what I learned.
skillshare teachers arent to the skill of Sven, I could be a skillshare teacher if i wanted theres not much to it
. Think about the feature films and who he's worked with. Think about the knowledge he has about the industry.
PopcornShrimp I wish I hadn’t missed this
I have just completed as much of this course that is available (the last few segments of the course are not released yet), and here are my thoughts: First, the way it is now, it IS for absolute beginners. I am by no means an advanced film editor, but found everything so far to be at a very basic level (ie., explaining J and L cuts, teaching basic DaVinci Resolve -- which I don't use). I won't say that I've learned absolutely nothing, but my takeaways have been very few. My main critique of the course is that as you watch edits being made (the "Case Study") -- which are the most valuable parts of this course -- there isn't often an explanation of why (for example: I am moving this here...because it will do this) or how it will change the story or the scene. I can see it in his eyes when he's cutting, but the explanation is left out. One of the films being edited is in German, and even though I actually speak some German, I found it kind of excruciating to watch a scene being edited without knowing exactly what was being said by the actors (occasionally the gist of the dialogue is given) and therefore be able to judge performances. Understanding what an editor does technically is valuable, but it only makes you a competent editor. It's how you shape the story (and why) that would make you a go-to one. The career advice -- branding, interviewing, setting your rate -- is valuable but, again, for beginners. If you've interviewed and been hired for a job before, there isn't much to see here. Finally, the cost: $380. This course is severely overpriced, based on the value of other online courses that are out there. My mind went to Masterclass.com where, for $180/year, you have full access to dozens of complete master classes (each longer than this one) by Martin Scorsese, Jodie Foster, Werner Herzog, etc. This is more than double that price, and four times more than buying just one of those courses. Lynda.com ($30/mo) also has a ton of courses available for so much less. The money-back guarantee requires that you watch all the videos AND do all the exercises AND wait 8 weeks before you can request a refund; I think you should be able to leave the course if it's clear very quickly that it's not for you. This policy isn't disclosed up front, which feels deceptive. Overall: if you are a beginning editor, you could learn a lot from this, and $380 is a lot less expensive than film school (or even one course there). Sven is clearly a talented and skilled editor. If you have any experience editing at all, though, I don't think this is for you. I would describe it as being able to take you from crawling to walking, but not walking to running. This has been my experience. I didn't learn anything substantial from this course, but you may.
Hey Brent, thank you for your honest review. I would like to invite you to write another one, once the second half of the course if opened up in about a month. This is where the next 3 modules of a total of 6 become available. And this is where the bulk of the advanced editing takes place.
I think you make a good point about the case study with the German film. I wish the dialog was in English, but I added it to the course, because I felt strongly that this particular editing session best demonstrated how much power editing can have over a scene, when you need to completely reshuffle it. You did give me the idea that we need to subtitle this entire lesson in order to understand every actor's line at all times. I do give a summary of the dialog at the beginning and at times, I explain what is being said, but I understand how that is not enough.
In terms of the warranty, I would like to stress that whenever we talk about it, we spell out the terms. At the very first page when you land on the course, at the top, there a main button where the 6 Month Money Back Guarantee is explained. There are two reasons for this type of warranty, it motivates you stay on track and (because this is an information product as opposed to a physical one) it keeps free loaders at bay. I understand that this is not as good as "no questions asked money back guarantee", but we give you ample of time to make use of it.
Finally, I'd like to ask for your patience, this is a Gen1 release which is often also called an MVP (Minimum Viable Product). I intent to take everybody's feedback into consideration as I refine the lessons in the coming months. E.g. some students have thoughts on the use of the music, which I will take a close look at. You do have lifetime access to the lessons, any ad ons and upgrades.
Tesla didn't get it right from the start, but they had the vision to disrupt the industry. Because of Tesla, VW has now committed to going 100% electric with their entire fleet of cars, which will have a tremendous impact on the air quality of the inner cities in the future. Sorry I'm getting on a tangent here, I understand we are not Tesla. But the extremely expensive Tesla Gen 1 Roadster had its problems, the expensive Model S is still pretty rough in built quality, but the Model 3 is a nearly perfect car and almost affordable.
It is my intent to make the Go-To Editor the Model 3 of editing courses. Ok I'll stop with the analogy.
We need a little time to get there. I'd love to invite you to a Skype call where we can go through your experience in detail and identify the key elements that need improvement.
@@ThisGuyEdits Sure, I'd be happy to update my comment at the end of the course, and also happy to hop on a call with you offline. Thanks.
Here's my take on being a go-to editor. Branding is great as a start, but as you mention, it's all relationships. My clients come to me first because I solve problems and I think I walk a fine line between staying in my lane and proving myself valuable above and beyond my role as editor. I want them to think, "If we don't get Steve Hullfish for this, the project definitely won't be as good and might even fail." It takes some social skills to determine when you're crossing out of your lane and when you can add something beyond pressing keys. I probably crossed it at least once. But in other cases, I know I've landed tons of work and can name my price with multiple producing teams. This is all really smart content, Sven. Might be an interesting thing to touch on: staying in your lane vs. contributing above and beyond.
I agree, I'd like to see some input on that last point. As editors it's easy to get romantic about our own work and feel protective about it's current iteration. I am learning to drop the ego and realise it's NOT your project but then knowing how much to contribute before stepping over that line you speak of.
@@GKVideography Dropping ego is a key aspect of thinking freely (creative contribution), and winning more work (being someone people want to work with again), and truly in creating a better project because the focus is on the story, not your job or protecting your job (I know I'm preaching to the choir). I just talked about this exact thing with Jeff Ford, who edited the latest Avengers movie. This was a big topic in our upcoming interview for Art of Cut.
@@shullfish Hey steve I have bought you book Art Of The Cut so is this something extra, a doc? Not completed the book yet but an amazing read! Appreciate the input and insight!
@@GKVideography Not sure what the question is. I edit features and documentaries. I wasn't referring to anything specifically in my post. I'm not talking about training. Just commenting on Sven's course and my own take on what's important about the topic he chose to discuss.
@@shullfish I believe he was asking what you meant when you said: " This was a big topic in our upcoming interview for Art of Cut.." since the book has already been published. I believe he was (and now I am) wondering if this was a filmed interview, material for a new printing of the book, etc?
Even with the payment plan, I simply cannot afford it. This is something that I've been waiting for, because you've taught me so much already! The truth is I need more work to buy the course, even though the course would help me get more work. Life's funny that way I guess.
Go get 'em Sven! Best of luck with this venture.
Thanks, Thisguyedits! Just a beautiful day that I noticed this video on UA-cam. I have already bought the course and I'm on module 2 already. From Russia (Moscow) with love!
I have just found your channel and got to say thank you really appreciate the time your putting in to share your knowledge and experiences.
I never have and never will edit footage in my life. But I specifically look for film editor because I want to learn your mentality when it comes to story-telling.
Thanks algorithm for this video!
I love to edit! However, I use a software that no really uses and I felt relieved when you said that you took a job where you had to use a software that you weren't familiar with. This gives me hope, definitely going to check out this course!
still come back to this video year after year, thank you so much sven!
1. Forge the relationship with the director/producer and make them feel comfortable; 2. Work on stuff that people are fans of previous films, stuff that is exciting, intriguing and promising; 3. Promise a good experience to people you are working with, stuff like showing up on time and being excited about their own work, be a positive force; 4. Brand yourself as an editor; 5. Be able to tell the story through the edit
This looks amazing! Editing is definitely the career I want to launch myself onto, and I feel like this would be a perfect fit. I only have a few days left to think about it, but... let's see what happens!
what happened with it
yo, give us an update
Yeah what’s the update ?
I'm already in, and is TOTALLY worth it guys
What do you think is the most valuable part of the course?
@@Ethaneman3135Rothschild how I can personally apply all of Sven's knowledge into real footage from a movie with good production (actors, shots, sound, story, etc)
@@deleyton Are all the footages from a whole feature film or just a part of it?
@@bingolotta it's from specifics scenes from a feature, documentary and branded content
I have been searching for a new way in my life for a long time now. I rediscovered my love for film which seems odd because it was never really gone. I did my first edit of a short essay a week ago, what i wanted to do for so long. I never had so much fun working on something in a very very long time. I have been following you for a longer time now. And you announce your course that i was looking forward to so much on my birthday. Well.... i am in i guess. (Is there a limited number of people allowed for now until the countdown runs out? Because i still need some time to clear the money for it)
Thanks!
Bernd
Well... There goes the Coach bag I wanted... Watching the first lesson now. I have been waiting for this course since it was first hinted at. I am excited to finally see it realized. Thanks Sven!!!
they still make coach bags? :)
@@ThisGuyEdits LOL They do... I don't feel like I am missing anything though ;)
it's frustrating because I just simply don't have the money =/
Facts
how much does it cost
@@RimmCriolle 380$
Uber, work at restaurant, film videos for local business or your family, etc. This is nothing compare to what you’re going to spend in the future. You’re going to be used to spending thousands or dollars. If you really want to you’ll manage to find it. You lose money to make money= Invest Plus it’s cheaper than film school.
Figure out a way to get the money. The value of learning from a pro is priceless: you can’t learn this from a teacher.
Average salaries for editors are a fraction of what they used to be, and the downward trend hasn't improved. Back in the 80's a UK video editor could be making £50k-100+k p.a. In the 80s!
Chances of being in a high payed select group are mathematically near zero given the market supply, but there is plenty of work. Long hours, fixed deals, low hourly rates. It's not the profession it once was. But then that's no different for most of the post production industry. And given the high cost of living in a thriving capital like London... make sure you're amazing and couldn't see yourself doing anything else in life. Just don't do it because you think you might earn a fortune.
The death of a profession at root is like the death of most professions, especially in the creative sector... college courses, universities. Churning out to oversaturate a market place, as opposed to the old way. Interns and working your way up.
However, there are other avenues opening up to be had if you have the skills of an editor, and who knows what opportunities will come from that.
Great idea on the course! Hope it's a huge one for ya
I am editing a small youtube channel with a 100.000 subs. Love you man!
Connections is what gets you hired. It’s 99% connections and 1% talent.
I’m a bit late to this video but I just wanted to say I appreciate the usage of the song on the beach from HER.
0:37 oof, I felt that
Hey Sven, I'm thinking i''m in your intermediate category (and mature age) but I really enjoy your approach. I've been cutting weddings for 6 years (but just closed that chapter to move into more animation type stuff) but am editing everyday in my corporate gig. So in essense, I like what I'm seeing in your course around asset management and story development (as that is the real 'editing' magic). While I'm not seeking a job as an editor I think this skillset is so undetected by the client but an absolute MUST to make brilliant stuff - if I'm not seeking a job and definitely not young do you think this course is still for me.
I think so. If you are seeking to improve your storytelling muscle and work with narrative, documentary and branded content, then, yes.
You are amazing and true inspiration!
Wow, what an outstanding idea. I wish I were young again and looking for a career. This is exactly the kind of class I would want to take. I just wish others did classes like this for other jobs so my kids could take them. :^)
Thank you so much for giving your efford into the community. You give us your knowlege and your time tonhelp us to make our way.
Dude i LOVE your channel
Great price point for the course and people need to see it's an investment, as unless you do not do anything with the information you will not see a return.
Kinda wish i didnt already have a carrier, i would so take this. :) Price is soo affordable. The content looks great. And as one if the firsts you are sure to have some great connection out of this. Thats the real value. Ppl who say they need this but dont have the money... come on, this would be great with an extra 1 before the price.
thank you. The price will go up considerably when we open the course again next time.
you can always change careers (I did). I know is not easy, but many people do it.
@@deleytonah maybe I was too vague (didtn want to write a novel). I meant it as "I really wish opportunities like this were around when I was just starting "life" - you need this? then go get it!"
I wrote the comment to emphasise how good this offer was, and anybody who needs it but thinks its too expensive should reconsider. Getting real dailies, editing real pro actor's footage, great connections from the community and the creators... It is truly a no-brainer.
Also, kudos to you, for changing work/life when it was time!!
sidenote, to reply to you point: I love my current business, taking this would have been for a hobby. (I didn't and that's a good thing, this is not a hobby, do it fully immersed or don't - "Focus on one thing, focus well.")
Typing this from Bali, things are good :)
(and cheers for the encouragement - my bad my previous points weren't more exact)
The audio on this video is so fire!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge on this topic. I found this video extremely helpful and look forward to watching more of your content.
I signed up for the course on the first day and I can tell you that it's very good. Access to real Hollywood footage, instructional/Inspirational videos, and discussion boards to share you work and solicit feedback from other creators. If you're starting off as an editor, or even have some experience and looking to improve your overall creative workflow, I highly recommend it. Plus, there is a money guarantee if you're not satisfied. I wasn't asked to post this comment but the quality is just so good that I wanted to share my experience so far. Cheers!
After 9 months have gone by, what do you think of the course now? I ask because I am looking to sign up for the new course.
What is that controller to the left of the keyboard?
Sharon Joseph I also want to know this!
The jog shuttle?
Thatone Dude Do you know what the model is?
@@sharonjoseph410 no, no idea. i just remembered the name from taking television broadcast classes in university back in the 1980's. I would bet there are numerous ones out there though. Assuming that is what you were talking about.
I think it's this one...
www.3dconnexion.com/products/spacemouse/spacemouse-enterprise.html
Oh Steve! I'm Kody with a K we met at the Us event in Hollywood!
Love this just saw that you put #2 twice lol great video learned a lot
First, I appreciate the amount of time and knowledge that you give through your channel. Second , 8 noticed the poster in the background for “Better Luck Tomorrow”. I throughly enjoyed that film and their story behind making it. I would love to get your take on their editing breakdown as you have done for other films.
YOUR share so CRAZY . Thank you Sven
AWESOME!! NOTIF SQUAD! IM GONNA BE A FILMAKER OR EDITOR SOMEDAY!!!!!!!!
And Im 15 now.
FLPL 101 cool?
Sven, thank you for doing this. You rock.
Amazing video !!
Would love to join your course, when it opens again!
I FULLY intend to enroll into the course and learn from you😀. Unfortunately it says it's currently closed. However I definitely want to get in. Any info you can share about this?
send me a message here and I can help you out: thisguyedits.com/contact-me/
I am literally on fire to learn everything about filmmaking, it's just my income isn't ok right now cause i'm investing on some gears. I'll promise myself to invest on knowledge like this when I got some money. UGH!
give an update
Because my company is so small so beside working as an editor, I have to be an photographer, 2d motion desinger, animator. And my monthly salary is about 600$, half of your daily salary. Should i quit my job ? T.T
Just beautiful.
Commented during first minutes. Nearly broke my leg running to computer after hearing about course. So, happy to be a student; but, darn.. My knee hurts. Haha
I have been trying to find an answer about Resolve: They have all of the editing capabilities they have been incorporating and there are lots of tutorials. However, all of the tutorials about editing are "from colorists" which makes me wonder: do any real professional expert editors use resolve for editing? I'd love to see a tutorial series about editing in resolve from an expert editor, not a color grading professional. Hollywood and most professionals still use Avid right?
Jackalope B Not sure what you can actually learn because all softwares run the same. I started off on FCP 7 then when I went to film school, I was forced to use Avid MC, then after two years, I was so use to it. I had to switch to premiere right away and to tell you the truth, books helped me get by. I would recommend carry some books, like it is a cellphone, carry it next to you cause it helps. I started to cut on Resolve a year after premiere, which was hard cause I only used to grade it, but I only used my main tools like knowing the blade, how to scrub and those things. If you can learn the basics of cutting then, a software is the tool. What I normally do is, carry a USB with my keyboard layouts, so if I need to to switch from Avid MC to Premiere, I already have my set comfortable keys and it is mapped.
for someone who knows nothing besides cutting clips together, could they start with your program and learn?
yes
I BOUGHT IT, I am so hgppy I didn't miss the signup period. TYTYTYTY!
You think so, the course is still open.
Fantastic, I'll definitely be checking this course out!
Thanks for sharing this great story!
I've always been a go-to editor, but I'm afraid to take the leap and make it my full-time job because everyone asks for motion graphics and I just want to tell stories :(
Motion graphics add value to stories though
Team up with a motion guy, best of both worlds when they need it.
By the way I Love the concept of this course, I think it is unique and while there is a lot of free editing related stuff on UA-cam, your content stands out, and I think 379 Dollars are absolutely reasonable for anyone who SERIOUSLY wants to be a working editor. I mean even if you dont have the money you could borrow it from friends or parents who understand that this is your passion and you csn pay them back at your own pace.
Hello, I have 2 quick questions. First, is this course a good fit for an absolute beginner? Second, would the experience from this course be enough for a newbie to get a job? Thanks in advance... love the channel and content. Have a great day.
1. yes and 2. that depends on you, but probably yes
Finally! I'm alway thinking that I missed a puzzle of editing skill. Flipping pockets...
what I don't understand in editing, is that I feel like you are only as good as the footage... you say "tell the story" but if you don't have the shots to tell a story, you can only do the best of what you can with what you got. I feel there is creative room, but mostly technical. Editors don't shoot the footage...
Chris Dryer I've learned that there's actually many situations like this. Other than grading the footage, it's really how well you stitch them together to tell a story even when the footage isn't all that great. But it's your job as the editor to try your best in making the footage fit into the project best possible. Its not easy, but it is what an editor does. There are many situations like what you mentioned, but an editor (not all) can save the day🤙
我是来自中国的剪辑，非常喜欢你做的节目。谢谢。
Great Video Sven!
Wow, i wish i could afford that. your stuff is really really good. I'll start saving up.
Great journey man! Awesome channel!
can you please tell me which laptop is best for editing staff ?
9:29
it should be #3
right?
Thank you so much
Man, you're just awesome! I've been watching your videos for like 2 years, since i got in a film school here in Brazil and i can totally say that i love your work. Your conception and care about all the little things envolved in the editing process makes me want to go editor (haha) more and more. I was always scary and shy to comment bellow in your videos but wow! It's an editing course with you now that's being talking here on your channel, and i love it. Just love it. The price is a little bit steep, but it seems right according to the content. I may have to save money to run for it. However, congratulations on another conquest in your career.
Hey thanks man, glad you are a friend of the channel.
Sería genial que tus vídeos estuvieran subtitulados al español. Te aseguras miles de suscriptores!
I am a pa and realize I want to be an editor but the course is a little expensive for me at this time.
I wonder how you compare to Inside the Edit? I am really thinking about enhancing my video editing skills. It's been a while since I've been out of school and it doesn't seem like anyone wants to hire me. It's been tough especially when you have a family to take care of. I've been doing everything to get my name out there. I'll keep pushing nonetheless.
Love it!
This certainly sounds like a course that I am interested in. I work as a editor in a corporate office, and one of the toughest things for me, is being able to make new reels and pieces for my portfolio due to lack of time gathering good footage (a full-time job, where I can't use anything I work on in my reels). I notice that the course allows us to use some really good quality content, but I see that one of the rules is we are not allowed to use any of it in our reels. I can understand any legal reasons as to why this is the case, but is there any chance we would be provided with content that we may be able to use freely in our portfolios?
Thanks again for the hard work you, and your team have put in to this course.
this course is meant to build you up as a storyteller, by giving you the concepts and let them sink in through experiencing the process yourself. The footage is high-end and gives you a real on-the-job training. But it's not giving you a reel. If that's the most important part I would recommend to check out edit-stock. While their footage is not as high-end it does allow you to use on your reel (I believe).
what is operator job?? my teacher said it needs no creativity just copy paste type video operator job
Took me 20 minutes to figure out that this was an ad...
I use FCPX. Is this going to be a good fit? Or will all the references be relative to Premier?
FCPX works great. I use all different editing software in the lessons and it really doesn't matter which one you use as you work independently beside me to cut your version of the scenes.
i really want this course from past 6 months am looking for a job but i really don't have money for this course i wish i had i love your lessons.
So, who has tried the Go To Editor course? Is it worth the money? Is it any good? What are your experiences with it?
Hi Sven,
I saw this video for the first time a couple hours after it was uploaded. I've been thinking really hard about buying the course. I have once concern though, and I hope you'll be able to answer before the time limit runs out tomorrow. If not, no worries. I asked last second, so I understand if you can't respond on a Friday night/Saturday morning.
I want to buy the course, but my computer struggles with editing high resolution videos. Even with proxies, I freeze up all the time. In my budget, I am going to buy a beast of a computer towards the end of August 2019. I want to take the course, but I don't think I'll be able to take it until I get a new computer late August/early September. Is that too late for me to start the course? If it is, I can wait for the next wave. If not, I'd love to sign up now.
Thanks Sven! I appreciate your work and dedication to editing!
Sean Carruthers
Yes, you can follow along at your own pace. I recommend you watch a few videos at the beginning to be sure you like the method of teaching, then you are free to put the course aside for as long as you want. So August/September is fine. If you use DaVinci to do the exercises it would advantages to have a powerful computer.
wld be great if in the future, the modules and dailies etc can be purchased standalone without the review process (as important as it is) since timing is tricky
Sven Pape, I'm ready to enroll, whats the coupon code? or where can I find it? :)
if you're a patron you would know where it is :)
@@ThisGuyEdits got you my freind, I'll check it out 😎
Thank you....
I wanna to apply, plz!!! When will the course open again?
be sure to leave your email address at thisguyedits.com/thegotoeditor for a little surprise :)
it is never closed. you can enroll now
@@erfannuriyev294 It is open again until Monday night due to the fact that we had a write up in a big film blog the day AFTER our course closed, which is partially why we had over 1000 sign-ups to our waitlist. Because of that I opened the course for a couple of days to give everyone a chance that didn't know about this course while it was open.
How much does this course cost? I couldn't find the fee on the website.
Is the MacBook Pro 16 good as a daily driver for a editor?
it's working for me
@@ThisGuyEdits how about the new iMac?
The course looks great but, do you address how to market yourself as an editor outside of the Hollywood or New York areas? Or am I going to have to convince my wife to move again?
it does address that topic and teaches you to tackle it
Thanks for the reply,@@deleyton . Can I ask how you know this? Have you taken the course?
@@gatecitysoul yes, hope to see you there :)
There is an Film editing course being taught 6 hours a day for 25 days by 3 film editors on real film footage. The price is 30 k Indian Rupees. Can anyone suggest shall I take that course or This guy edit course. I apologize in advance. It's my real and genuine doubt. What is the difference in learning film editing form any Institute which lasts for years and online course which completes in couple of hours
Do you have to live in LA or NYC to edit for these types for these types of projects?
No you don’t
Can anyone answer me please?I am very interested in this course, but I want to know whether the materiasl used in the exercise is a complete film？The most attractive part of this course is the opportunity to edit a film （not a short or some parts of scenes）
it's not a complete film it's 3-4 scenes per genre that are connected to complete a story arc.
@@ThisGuyEdits Thank you Sven!
Seems like clickbait to me. I already know all of this stuff - went to college for it and have a degree, yet no one wants to hire me. If they do decide, then it's for a contract worker that pays minimum wage. Ridiculous. All the things I see today done by "professionals" who can't even match cut, and have continuity errors. I'll make my breakthrough eventually!
Hi, Sven
Will the course re-open ?
Is there any chance of learning film editing on one whole feature film raw footage?
When will the course next be available?
So it’s been six months. I want to get in on round 2!
Your site is down...just wanted to let you know.
Thanks for your knowledge.
I would love to sign up, but I don't have the money right now. Let's see if I can make another $200 before the deadline.
Will we ever be able to purchase the course again?
we're planning to relaunch Gen 2.0 in February 2020, but contact me through the website and I can help you out.
Nice video! Bit of personal random trivia: I also used that cello track (pretty sure it's from Epidemic sound) and also that close up stock shot of the fingers on the keyboard from Shutterstock in a corp short form edit a few months back!