@@winharrison6354 I thought this video was took down...cause i happened to try coming back to it few times in the past weeks and to my great disappointment i couldnt find it anymore, it simply didnt show up in the results. But your comment made it alive again wow i'm so glad and joyful
Never heard this, sometimes people use fretless basses, but you think Lou was using a fretless guitar? Would work with tunings like the guy is talking about.
Cry more. Cale is just a glorified producer anyway, pretty much everything he released under his own name after he left the Velvets was boring, self-indulgent tripe. Lou was always the visionary of the band and had already written a lot of the songs from the first album before he even started working with Cale. If anything, Sterling Morrison deserves more credit because he was there with Lou from the beginning.
@@silversnail1413 Well seemingly you have a limited and superficial knowledge about the Velvets. Though Reed being a great songwriter and lyricist, it was Cale being the main archichitect of their groundbreaking sound on the first two lps. Cale brought the classical and avantgarde sounds, such as the drone, into the Velvets and therefore into rock music. Reeds compositions in the beginning sounded very Dylan'eske (I'mWaitingForTheMan:ua-cam.com/video/taCjAIWg36c/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared), it was Cale who brought those sinister and menacing sounds to the songs, giving them the right depth and weight to the lyrics. Maybe you schould get yourself one of the many VU books that are around, there's about 14 or 15 of them, and I have them all. All of the authors acknowledge Cale's major contribution to the bands sound and the arrangements of the songs. So who are you to disqualify Cale's importance to the band? Seemingly your knowledge is based on some random articels, written by lazy journalists who couldn't even name the whole lineup of the Velvets, apart from Reed, Nico and Warhol as suposedly their producer. As for Cale being boring, then you haven't heard much of his solo work. Cale is easily one of the most versatile musicians to ever have walked this planet, his music ranging from Rock to Pop, Avantgarde, Classical, Jazz, Blues, Punk, Goth, Country, Electronica etc. And as for his live appearances, especially between mid 70's to mid 80's John Cale was a Rock'n'roll animal on stage, even beheading a chicken while performing Heartbreak Hotel. Here are two live performances of Cale performing the VU classics Venus In Furs (ua-cam.com/video/15GGl7vvGVg/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared) and I'm Waiting For The Man (ua-cam.com/video/GJ6rSrYSAbg/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared), that showcase Cale's enormous intensity and stage pressence. I haven't found anything equavilant by Reed yet, his performances just sound and look pale in comparison. So how about you give credit to where credit is due!
Ikr? The only people that should be participating in Velvet Underground documentaries are those who vaguely know the band in passing and heard Heroin once on Spotify 5 years ago. 'oh, yeah, the banana album? Great stuff. Great stuff.'
I never heard any tremelo on any Velvet Underground music
Yeah, I don't really associate VU with tremolo at all, but "Train Round the Bend" does have a prominent tremolo.
The tremelo pedal is distracting, and it serves no point because it's not on either song, in the recording or when it was even played live.
I think it is a nice add
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I thought this video was took down...cause i happened to try coming back to it few times in the past weeks and to my great disappointment i couldnt find it anymore, it simply didnt show up in the results. But your comment made it alive again wow i'm so glad and joyful
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Ahok :) will listen to it
This single video pushes the envelope: the Velvet's sound was always an enigma to me, I finally get it!
that line 6 sounds killer
Over kill tremolo... a vox tube amp is way better
Rare sentence but true, I kinda like that tremolo
i wonder if he got it for christmas
Said no one ever
Need more tremolo
According to Moe Tucker, the Guitar used on the album also was Fretless, but sadly got stolen after the recording sessions
Never heard this, sometimes people use fretless basses, but you think Lou was using a fretless guitar? Would work with tunings like the guy is talking about.
Source?
I dont think lou had the discipline to navigate a fretless guitar. How many have you seen? Band was broke then 4/66 as well
Would like to hear it without the tremolo.
I think Lou plays it with his thumb across the bottom three strings. Look at reunion vid
I'm hearing twinges of Roger McGuinn's 12-string playing.
Sonic Boom - now I know your musical secrets...
Not quite. You need a vox repeat percussion for that, not an (over the top) triangle wave tremolo.
Thats the tuning he used in song called small town live version from animal serenade
Cale should have been co-credited for the music on TVU&N and WL/WH. Fucking Reed would have none of that, his enormous ego got in the way.
Cry more. Cale is just a glorified producer anyway, pretty much everything he released under his own name after he left the Velvets was boring, self-indulgent tripe. Lou was always the visionary of the band and had already written a lot of the songs from the first album before he even started working with Cale. If anything, Sterling Morrison deserves more credit because he was there with Lou from the beginning.
IDK fellas lol dontcha think both led the band...btw Cale's songs were interesting not quite Reed's level but influential.
@@silversnail1413 Well seemingly you have a limited and superficial knowledge about the Velvets. Though Reed being a great songwriter and lyricist, it was Cale being the main archichitect of their groundbreaking sound on the first two lps. Cale brought the classical and avantgarde sounds, such as the drone, into the Velvets and therefore into rock music. Reeds compositions in the beginning sounded very Dylan'eske (I'mWaitingForTheMan:ua-cam.com/video/taCjAIWg36c/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared), it was Cale who brought those sinister and menacing sounds to the songs, giving them the right depth and weight to the lyrics. Maybe you schould get yourself one of the many VU books that are around, there's about 14 or 15 of them, and I have them all. All of the authors acknowledge Cale's major contribution to the bands sound and the arrangements of the songs. So who are you to disqualify Cale's importance to the band? Seemingly your knowledge is based on some random articels, written by lazy journalists who couldn't even name the whole lineup of the Velvets, apart from Reed, Nico and Warhol as suposedly their producer.
As for Cale being boring, then you haven't heard much of his solo work. Cale is easily one of the most versatile musicians to ever have walked this planet, his music ranging from Rock to Pop, Avantgarde, Classical, Jazz, Blues, Punk, Goth, Country, Electronica etc. And as for his live appearances, especially between mid 70's to mid 80's John Cale was a Rock'n'roll animal on stage, even beheading a chicken while performing Heartbreak Hotel.
Here are two live performances of Cale performing the VU classics Venus In Furs (ua-cam.com/video/15GGl7vvGVg/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared) and I'm Waiting For The Man (ua-cam.com/video/GJ6rSrYSAbg/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared), that showcase Cale's enormous intensity and stage pressence. I haven't found anything equavilant by Reed yet, his performances just sound and look pale in comparison.
So how about you give credit to where credit is due!
Gee, if I remember correctly, I think the first two albums are credited words by Lou Reed and music to Cale, Tucker Morrison, and Reed.
friggin tremelo awful ...nothing like VU
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ahahah what is this tremolo echo??
Interesting audio lol
This guy's a nerd
Ikr? The only people that should be participating in Velvet Underground documentaries are those who vaguely know the band in passing and heard Heroin once on Spotify 5 years ago. 'oh, yeah, the banana album? Great stuff. Great stuff.'
@@motionsuggests that's right!
Lol, I played a couple of gigs with Joe in Boston 25 years ago, nice guy really.